Could/Would the Red Sox think about the idea of trading Rafael Devers?

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Could/Would the Red Sox think about the idea of trading Rafael Devers? Who has the leverage? #MLB

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00:00So, I don't know, I mean, Wiggy suggested earlier that that's what you have Alex Corey

00:06here for and he'll fix everything and everybody will be happy when April arrives.

00:13But I don't know.

00:14It seems like a lingering, like, Mego, you brought up, Mego's filling in for Courtney

00:18today, by the way.

00:19You brought up the fact that he hasn't, when asked about whether he would want to be traded,

00:26I'm paraphrasing here, he would have to think about it.

00:30So, I mean, he's clearly trying to flex some leverage or something, I guess.

00:36For what?

00:37Like, what?

00:38Because baseball is the one sport that, by him not playing the field, they're not, like,

00:47I guess technically they are taking something away from him, but he still can be productive

00:52for you as a player.

00:54It's not like where they're taking away playing time from you in any other sport, where if

00:59you're a backup goaltender and we're going with this guy or basketball.

01:03The most beloved Red Sox player of the last 20 years was a DH.

01:09Yeah.

01:10So, it seemed to work out.

01:11Greg, can we just simply say that it's about how he said it?

01:14If he had this exact feeling and said, you know, I signed here as a third baseman.

01:20I've taken a lot of pride in my defense.

01:22Last year, I went down from 19 to 12 errors at third base.

01:26I hope to continue improving and to play that position is very different than the manner

01:31in which he reacted to the question.

01:33Would you agree?

01:34Yeah.

01:35Yeah.

01:36Like, if you just said, I want to get better.

01:37I need to get better.

01:38We all have to get better.

01:39Last year wasn't good enough.

01:40I think I can help the team best at third base, but if that's not the case, I just want

01:44us to win.

01:45Wouldn't that be a much better way to handle this?

01:46Yeah.

01:47Well, he called him out.

01:48He, and I'm paraphrasing again, but basically said, I should not have taken them at their

01:54word.

01:55Right.

01:56Which is, you know, calling them out.

01:58Go ahead, Sean.

01:59Yeah.

02:00No, I, like I said before, like my, my position is third base.

02:03I don't know how they want to go about it or what they want to do, but I know that that's

02:08the position I get ready to play every day and, and it's just, you know, that's, it's

02:15just my position.

02:16How would you react if they asked you to DH?

02:18How would you feel about that?

02:20No.

02:21No.

02:22It's just crazy to me.

02:23Cause it's not like it's a situation at second base where you have somebody like Christian

02:28Campbell coming up and it's a kid and they're saying, Hey, Devers, we want you to move to

02:33this different place.

02:35Cause we want to bring this kid up where I could understand him getting defensive about

02:40it.

02:41Ironically defensive because he's not good in the field, but this is somebody who they

02:45have been talking about bringing in for months at this point and are bringing in and he's

02:51so much more accomplished at the position than Devers ever has been.

02:55And they're just moving them over to DH, which as you said, Greg has a great legacy of DH

03:02heroes with the red socks.

03:03Like it is not a huge insult.

03:06He's making it into something much more complicated than it has to be.

03:11And that's where I'm like, kind of like, I like, that's where it's a head scratcher

03:15to me.

03:16Like it's not a big insult, but why is he taking at taking it as like, you're still

03:23going to be viewed as the face of the franchise, like even though you got Bregman, he's only

03:27here.

03:28I wonder if he feels that way.

03:29But Bregman's only here for three years.

03:30He signs a three year deal.

03:31You signed a, what was it?

03:3312, 12 year deal.

03:34So you're still the face of the franchise.

03:37I could see if it was Juan Soto signs a 10 year, whatever he signed the 10 or 11 year

03:44deal, 700 million and played the same position.

03:48And now like, Hey, we need you to move.

03:50Now you no longer are the face of the franchise because this new shiny object that they spent

03:55a ton of money on is the face.

03:58But I guarantee if you still ask anybody in the Red Sox organization, who is the face

04:04of the franchise, they're going to tell you it's ramping up.

04:06There's some onus on the player to make themselves the face of the franchise as well.

04:12You don't just automatically get that because you sign a big deal.

04:16And I like, and I got to tell you though, Greg, like the 508 texture has a great point

04:21about how we view A-Rod and Jeter.

04:23I just said A-Rod is on my douche Mount Rushmore.

04:27And Jeter was not as good of a defensive shortstop as Alex Rodriguez, but Jeter refused to move

04:33off short.

04:34A-Rod played third, went out of position and didn't complain about it.

04:39Nobody ripped Jeter.

04:41Nobody said Jeter was wrong.

04:42And give A-Rod credit for that because at that point in time, A-Rod was the bigger superstar

04:50in the sense of when he was the bigger superstar and he was like, Hey, listen, I'm going to

04:55put my ego to the side to play third base for Jeter because this is Jeter's team.

05:02But it's not even compared, Raphael Devers, when it comes to defensive play only is not

05:09Derek Jeter.

05:10Right.

05:11Exactly.

05:12So like, I mean, give me a break.

05:15I could see if he was good and, and you go, okay, he's, he's solid and Bregman's better

05:22and I can get where I'm going.

05:23Well, he doesn't want to move, but he's still good.

05:26He's he wouldn't lead the league or second in the league last year in errors.

05:29He's like, he's not very good.

05:31He's minus nine in defensive runs saved over above average.

05:37To put that in comparison, Bregman last year was six.

05:40It's a difference of 15 runs.

05:41Greg, you made a great point that like really should be examined in the sense of he's willing

05:49to die on this hill.

05:53Like, well, maybe he's just, he's just grasping for leverage.

05:57For what?

05:58But there's no leverage in baseball.

05:59He's got his contract.

06:01He's got his money where he doesn't mean any leverage.

06:04It's not like you're going to, you know, you're going to trade them like, why is he willing

06:07to die on this?

06:08So, and then that goes to where is his douchery level?

06:12Right.

06:13This is Eddie.

06:14Hello, Eddie.

06:15Hey guys.

06:16Sorry.

06:17Listen, Devin has been a stiff on the field for as long as you've been playing.

06:20If he wants to play third base and be the everyday third baseman, how about get better?

06:25How about learn how to play the position a little bit better?

06:28And by the way, how many gold gloves has this kid won and how many gold gloves do we

06:32think he'll win in his lifetime?

06:34I rest my case.

06:35Yeah.

06:36Yeah.

06:37That's just, it's, it's weird.

06:38It's weird that he's willing to die on this hill for what, what, what just to be like,

06:43all right, I play third base.

06:46I wonder if he, do you think that he expected Cora to be because Cora up until like yesterday

06:51and he's, he's, he hasn't changed his tune, but when they brought Bregman in and even

06:57in the introductory press conference, Cora and Kennedy were saying, Bregman's a guy who

07:02can play second.

07:03He can even play short.

07:04He can play so many places.

07:06And then when, when Devers took it to the, I play third base, that's what I, what you

07:13just heard.

07:14Then Cora says that was an agreement that was made with Heim Blum and he's in St. Louis.

07:21Maybe they made an agreement with Bregman to that.

07:23He can play third base.

07:24There's a different leader here.

07:25So, you know, Heim is in St. Louis right now.

07:28But if, if I would also add though, which would Cora say that, let's say a Breslau gets

07:32fired this year and the new GM doesn't like him, should the new GM not honor the contract

07:36that Cora side with Breslau?

07:38Like that's kind of a slippery slope.

07:40No.

07:41Right.

07:42And Cora should just be like when he did do it, which now as fans, you sit there, he basically

07:46said we're going to do what's best for the team.

07:49So we all have eyes and we all can see that if Bregman is outperforming Devers at third

07:55base, then Cora, why isn't he playing third base?

07:59Is it, isn't third base?

08:01Can you move Devers to second?

08:05But if you don't feel comfortable in there, why would you not make your team better defensively?

08:09Why would you, isn't third base like a key position?

08:11Either way, if you're moving someone over to second, then you're not giving Christian

08:15Campbell the opportunity to come up and develop quickly as well.

08:19I think that's a part of it.

08:20Like I think they realize they must have a confidence that he is going to be opening

08:25day is going to be your second baseman.

08:27And I see people in the Twitch chat saying, why are we talking about this now?

08:31It's going to get sorted out.

08:33Well, they had months that they were going after Bregman.

08:36They sit, there were leaked reports out saying that he was the priority after they pivoted

08:41out of the Juan Soto sweepstakes.

08:43So it hasn't been sorted out to this point.

08:46I don't know how you don't react to those comments from Devers yesterday and feel a

08:50little alarmed about the situation.

08:52Do you guys think this was the first they heard of it?

08:55Like do you think Cora and or Sam Kennedy or Breslow had had conversations with Devers?

09:01In other words, were they caught off guard by what Devers did yesterday?

09:04Or is this something that's just been, they've tried to put out the fire, but been unable

09:08to behind the scenes?

09:10They definitely had conversations with him.

09:12Like they definitely think so.

09:13Yes.

09:14Because if we're having, we were having conversations about this in Megos, right?

09:18Weeks ago, if they bring in Bregman, he seemed like a guy to you yesterday that has had an

09:25ongoing conversation about whether he'd be willing to move to DH.

09:29He didn't seem like that at all.

09:31Not willing.

09:32They had a conversation.

09:33He's like, no, I'm not going.

09:34Even though we had a conversation, but there's no way we, we were talking about this weeks

09:40ago that maybe Devers goes to second.

09:43Does Devers DH?

09:44Does Bregman go to, like, we're having this conversation, how are we having it?

09:49And we're just, you know, Joe Schmoes or Mrs. Joe Schmoe on the radio and Josephine, Josephine,

09:56sorry.

09:57And they're not having it with Devers.

09:59Like that would be acid.

10:01It's unfortunate that you're week one and you're starting it off that way.

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