Bittersweep! #RedSox sweep Yankees in weekend series! Sox send shockwaves through #MLB , and deal Rafael Devers to Giants in blockbuster! What was your instant reaction?!
00:05And then nearly an hour or two later, ship off the arguably the best hitter currently on this team,
00:17the face of the franchise, Raphael Devers.
00:21What the hell?
00:21And get virtually nothing in return other than his giant salary paid for the rest of the term of the deal.
00:31I don't know how everybody feels about it, but we are here to talk about it all morning.
00:37My lead this morning is going to be, why now?
00:42It's so confusing to me and the pressure that's now going to be on Alex Cora.
00:46Like, all the attention, because Curtis, every time I brought up that Raphael Devers was the face of this team,
00:54Curtis had a great point saying, well, I think it's actually Alex Cora.
00:57Well, the other face is gone now.
00:59It's all the pressure is on Alex Cora.
01:01And if they screw up another trade like this, people are going to go back to Mookie Betts.
01:05They're going to tie in the two.
01:07It's so shocking to me, and I hate it.
01:11Well, they already screwed the trade up.
01:13But you let, and Sam Kennedy said this, what, last week on Tom Caron,
01:17when he said that he's probably the best left-handed hitter in baseball, one of the best.
01:23So you trade one of the best left-handed hitters in baseball,
01:27and you get back, you know, a couple arms and some, you know, batten gloves.
01:33No.
01:34So, I mean, you don't let an all-star go for nothing.
01:37I don't think that you could expect, if you wanted them to cover the money that's owed,
01:44then I don't think that you could expect much in return.
01:49But it is, it's, I mean, I don't know.
01:52Is it up there with Luka when it comes to shocking trades?
01:55No.
01:55Curtis?
01:56Hell yeah.
01:57Where do you stand?
01:57It's the most shocking thing in my life as a Red Sox, Boston Red Sox fan.
02:03Like, I'm...
02:03More shocking than Noma?
02:05Oh, yeah.
02:05Okay.
02:06Because everybody, I mean, the thing that was with Nomar was that it came like 15 minutes after the deadline.
02:12I was listening to this very radio station, and it was pre-social media.
02:15So it was shocking.
02:17We thought the deadline had passed, but they had made the deal at the buzzer with Mankiewicz and Cabrera.
02:23But I think it's a Wiggies coach who said, Bill Parcells, that if somebody shows you who they are, believe them.
02:32And I am out entirely with this ownership group.
02:37I know we can go through it.
02:40We've had the back and forth.
02:41They're just total and complete charlatans.
02:44And, you know, for Sam Kennedy to go on last week, and listen, Devers has been an issue.
02:50Obviously, it's a bigger issue than even we may have thought.
02:54Courtney is spot on.
02:55The timing is inexcusable.
02:57Deal with it for the next 85 games, whatever it is.
03:01Go into the offseason and maybe call a couple people entering next year.
03:06And I saw that I legitimately was praying, not really, but, I mean, I was hoping that this was an Eric Shun.
03:19Like, I legitimately was staring at my computer saying, who is it?
03:23Because the guy that reported it I had never heard of.
03:25He was a San Francisco reporter, I guess.
03:28But what Sam Kennedy said last week, saying that if we need him, he'll be out there.
03:34He's the best hitter.
03:35Like, I know this is going to get people in this building sensitive, but there's no other way to put it than this group is very comfortable lying to its fans.
03:45Yeah.
03:46I wonder what happened when John Henry went out there and looked Raphael Devers in the eye.
03:53And whether or not what he saw back was Raphael Devers being a petulant child.
04:03And at that point, he came back and said, all right, quietly see what you can get for him.
04:12Because it doesn't make sense that that meeting, when was that meeting?
04:15A month ago, Curtis?
04:17Maybe a month ago?
04:18Right.
04:18We're not in Kansas anymore.
04:19It doesn't make sense that the owner flies all the way out there, and then you're turning around and dealing the dude in a month unless that meeting didn't go the way they wanted it to go on the part of the player.
04:37But even if the meeting didn't go great, you traded your best offensive weapon because there might have been an issue with him not playing a position he don't naturally play.
04:55But you guys are winning right now, too.
04:56But to me, something had a pop-off where, within the last 24, 48 hours, 72 hours, where there had been, like, F-bombs being screened.
05:09Maybe it's in spam.
05:11There's no way.
05:12It's not like a deal that you get done in a day, Wiggy.
05:16I mean, it's a lot of money.
05:17It's an awful lot of money for them to absorb.
05:20It's not a deal that you go out and get done in 24 or 48 hours.
05:24There's no way you go, we're going to trade a guy because he doesn't want to play first base.
05:29Well, that's what it seems like they have been telling people.
05:33I don't know.
05:35I mean, if you believe that one, then, hey, listen, I got these rocks that will turn you back and turn the clock back in time because if you believe.
05:46Can you explain that analogy?
05:49Well, I mean, I got to set a rock.
05:51Office reference, Dr. Mr. Copperfield, Magical Legumes.
05:55Yeah, I got these rocks that are magical.
05:58It's just, if you believe that this was something that they did because he didn't want to play first base, then, yeah, you'll buy anything.
06:09So you believe, do you believe it's all about cutting salary?
06:14Is that what you believe it is?
06:15No.
06:16Okay.
06:16Oh, what do you believe it is, then?
06:18I believe there must have been something that happened that.
06:22Something that was so egregious.
06:24Yeah.
06:25Was it at the home run yesterday that helped you sweep your biggest rival?
06:28No, no, no.
06:29That's what I'm saying.
06:30Did he bring too big of an item for a carry-on on the charter?
06:34Something off the field where he said something or they said something and he said the hell with it.
06:38Wait, Manny Ramirez shoved Jack McCormick to the ground.
06:41Right.
06:42He wouldn't show up.
06:43Right.
06:44Famously, we heard from Malari, just didn't go to a series against the Yankees.
06:49This, they won two World Series championships with Manny Ramirez, the best winner in the Red Sox history.
06:54I get that.
06:55I know.
06:55So you're sitting here.
06:56It is entirely about money, Wiggy.
07:00Entirely.
07:00There's no way it's about money.
07:01Wiggy, the other part of my lead that is weird about timing, Liverpool just signed a guy for $150 million.
07:07Same week.
07:08And they're offloading a large portion of the Penguins to interested buyers.
07:16Dearest Lord, please sell the team.
07:19Get out of here.
07:20Go somewhere where people don't give a damn and take advantage of that fan base.
07:24So if there was never any issue, would they trade in them anyways?
07:27Like if there was, if it is about the money and there was no third base issues or first base issues, they would have still traded them anyways.
07:34I think that it was convenient for them.
07:36I think between the timing of how the Red Sox are playing right now, what they're doing in Liverpool, what they're doing in Pittsburgh,
07:42it was convenient that Rafi Devers had a tough start to the season when it came to optics.
07:46And why do the old heads all these say cancer, like the guy's a cancer?
07:51Terrible.
07:51You legitimately are playing your best baseball with Devers on the team.
07:56We don't dispute that there was an issue and he remained unhappy.
08:03Totally true.
08:04I will absolutely allow that.
08:06But you had figured it out to this point.
08:09And you won with Manny Ramirez, who was Devers, but exponentially worse in terms of headaches off the field.
08:19And the reason you traded him, if Devers was making $3 million a year, he's not gone.
08:25Are you crazy?
08:26I mean, and you know what I used to like, Greg, was when the Red Sox would trade for another team's problem,
08:33absorb that contract, and then get a better, because what they would do is tell the Royals,
08:39well, take on that albatross of a contract that you want to get rid of.
08:42Give us your second best prospect.
08:44So you would swallow the money and get a better deal.
08:47The Red Sox are now doing the opposite.
08:49Let me ask Sam Kennedy about that.
08:51Sam, can you imagine a time now when the Red Sox are willing to invest big dollars in another team's problem player,
09:00but talented player?
09:02No, I can't.
09:03Okay, all right, thank you.
09:04Let's see, here is, this is Mike from Connecticut.
09:08Mike, hello.
09:11Good morning, everyone.
09:13I just need to rant for a minute, then I'm hanging out.
09:16I've been a Sox fan for almost 40 years, and I agree with Curtis.
09:21This is probably the worst trade out of all of them.
09:24The Nomar, I understood, because they were trying to compete.
09:28Manny, I understood, because he was being an ass.
09:31This one right here, Courtney's right.
09:33The timing is ridiculous.
09:36They're on a winning streak.
09:36They're actually winning games.
09:38And then you trade your best hitter.
09:42Now, I understand it's about the money.
09:43That's probably the main reason why.
09:46But the timing is ridiculous.
09:48And as a Sox fan, I don't feel great about this trade.
09:54Now, I hope that these prospects, you know, do some damage.
09:57But who knows?
09:59Who knows?
10:00But anyway, have a good one, guys.
10:02No, that's what we're here for.
10:04We are here so you can rant all morning long.
10:07And the number to call is 617-779-7937.
10:12If you prefer to do it on text, you can use the same number and text this show on the Subaru of New England text line.
10:20And this is Steve from Braintree.
10:24Morning, Steve.
10:28Hey, Steve.
10:30All right.
10:30I don't hear.
10:31Hey, good morning.
10:32Good morning.
10:33What's up, Steve?
10:34Listen, I love the show.
10:36Colin, love the show.
10:37I want to address this to Wiggy, first of all.
10:40Wiggy.
10:40Yeah.
10:40Everyone I talk to, anyone I – why won't Devin just be happy, take the money, shut up, and just stay in the doubt that he's getting paid anyways?
10:50This question is to you, Wiggy.
10:51If somebody came to you and they said, you know what?
10:55We just traded for a tight end.
10:57And you're going to be now sitting on the bench.
10:59You're only coming out on third downs.
11:00But we're going to keep you paid the same.
11:03Would you have been okay with that without any knowledge of it whatsoever?
11:07No, I wouldn't have been okay with it.
11:08So, how in God's name, first of all, we sweep the Yankees.
11:15Me personally, my son, my family, I'm a season ticket holder, 30 years.
11:20I'm on board again.
11:22We swept the Yankees.
11:23Here we go.
11:25Two hours later, I have 50 phone calls.
11:27We traded get this.
11:28This owner group, this management group, they are a disaster.
11:34And they have just cut our heads off again.
11:37And I'm just like – I'm telling you, as a Red Sox fan, if I was Devers and they called me in the office and said,
11:45By the way, you're going to be DH-ing now?
11:49And my question to them, if I even got the option to ask it, you didn't think I was worth – I was valued enough to even run this by?
11:58Yeah.
11:58Yeah, I mean, I think that that's going to be the argument on the Devers side of things, which is that the Red Sox screwed this up.
12:06Oh, yeah.
12:07And so –
12:08Hands down.
12:09Those who are fans of Raphael Devers will blame this on the Red Sox and blame it on them from jump when it comes to going out and getting Alex Bregman and the way they handled that whole thing.
