Are Better Negotiations Now in Sight for PTI? Hamid Raza

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00:00Is it possible that there are no better negotiations than these?

00:04No.

00:05The meeting with the Army Chief regarding security issues,

00:08there were also a lot of disagreements regarding that.

00:11Instead of those things...

00:12Your smile is telling me something else, Mr. Madraza.

00:14No, there is nothing like this.

00:15Any other hopes for negotiations?

00:19We have tolerated oppression for two and a half years,

00:21we have tolerated discrimination.

00:22We have nothing to lose, basically.

00:25If not, then no.

00:26Okay, what next?

00:27No more negotiations?

00:28It's over. What next?

00:31Negotiations are going on in our Parliament.

00:33In the National Assembly and the Provincial Assembly.

00:35It's going on very effectively.

00:37The Prime Minister has come twice this week,

00:39and he hasn't delivered a speech twice because of our negotiations.

00:44We won't let him do it even now.

00:46After that, our second option is to go to the Grand Opposition Alliance.

00:50We have met Shahid Khan Abbasi,

00:52we have met Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar,

00:55they have principally agreed to be with us in this movement.

00:58But I'm sorry, I'm going to be short.

00:59I spoke to Shahid Khan Abbasi and he said

01:01that they don't agree with your way of protesting.

01:04They don't think your way of protesting is right.

01:07So if your allies don't think your way of protesting is right...

01:11We will convince them.

01:13Will they come to you or will you go to them?

01:15No.

01:16Not for a meeting, but for a way of protesting.

01:19No, they will come to us, we will go to them.

01:21You are saying that the Todd Ford people will protest?

01:23No, not Todd Ford.

01:24Why is there a situation of Todd Ford?

01:27Are we crazy?

01:28That we will come here and pick up a stick and start protesting?

01:32We are political workers, civilised Pakistanis.

01:34Tell me, the massacre that took place here on 26th November,

01:37which Todd Ford are you talking about from our side?

01:40You had videos, right?

01:41What videos?

01:42You had videos of weapons.

01:43No, we don't have any videos.

01:44You had a video of Ali Amin Ghandapur Sahib firing a weapon.

01:46No, we don't have any videos here.

01:47You had a video of a gas shell.

01:49No, we don't have any videos here.

01:50On 26th November?

01:51If you want to make videos like this,

01:53then I don't know how many of my videos you will make.

01:56We are people who believe in weapons.

01:58On 26th November, Ali Amin's private guards didn't even have weapons.

02:04This was a set protocol.

02:05And this is what the government claims.

02:07I believe that the Judicial Commission should be made about this.

02:09No, the government claims that...

02:10They say that we didn't give live ammunition.

02:12No, they say that the bullets didn't fire.

02:14Then they say that it is possible that the bullets fired.

02:17Then your interior minister said that there is not a single bullet injury.

02:22Then your advisor to prime minister said

02:25that it is possible that there are some casualties and some bullet injuries.

02:28The 56 bullet injuries that I have given in detail,

02:31they have medical certificates.

02:33Amit Raju Sahib, this is a thing that you people have to sit together

02:37and decide in the Judicial Commission.

02:39Because before that, you also had lakhs of people who were missing.

02:42After that, they came to the houses.

02:44Then they came to Darjeeling.

02:45Lakhs never disappeared.

02:47They were in hundreds.

02:48Listen to me, they were in hundreds.

02:49When there is a mob,

02:51In these 44 years, when there is a mob and it is massive,

02:54the government attacks it,

02:56in that state of panic,

02:58if 100 people are not returning to their homes,

03:01there are corpses around you,

03:03there are injuries,

03:04then it is assumed that they are presumably dead.

03:06But that is not said from an official account.

03:08No, official.

03:09Let me tell you something else.

03:11Our official spokesperson is Sheikh Waqas Akram.

03:14Sheikh Waqas Akram,

03:17Sheikh Waqas Akram,

03:19Sheikh Waqas Akram,

03:21officially, 13th and 14th were attacked.

03:23No, no, no, no.

03:25Our official, any account,

03:27the figure of death,

03:29the exact number of the death was not given.

03:33Second, any figure,

03:35we gave 56,

03:37of bullet injuries,

03:39the first figure of 200,

03:41Sheikh Waqas Akram gave.

03:43These are missing.

03:45How did the government find them?

03:47They were missing.

03:49How did they find out?

03:51They found them in Attock Jail,

03:53Jhelum Jail,

03:55Rehmanpur Police Station.

03:57We did not take any responsibility.

03:59The people who were found,

04:01we cutlisted their names.

04:03Neither your line, nor the government's line.

04:05These lines are parallel.

04:07They have no connection.

04:09If there is a judicial commission,

04:11maybe they will do something like this.

04:14Half of it will be accepted by the judicial commission.

04:16Why not?

04:18At the time, I will tell you,

04:20the cases against me,

04:22I am a human being,

04:24I am a Jinn,

04:26Who?

04:28The military installations were attacked.

04:30The bodies of the martyrs were broken.

04:32Is that justified?

04:34Absolutely agreed.

04:36I will ask the government.

04:38I am giving my answer.

04:40If we were guilty,

04:42we would have got the punishment.

04:44We have already got the punishment.

04:46We have got it from the military court.

04:48We have got it from Gujarat's anti-terrorist court.

04:50We have categorically said,

04:52take out the CCTV footages,

04:56the people who went inside,

04:58in any building,

05:00if they are our people,

05:02we, Imran Khan,

05:04he himself announced that

05:06I will disown them,

05:08I will take action against them,

05:11and I will condemn this act.

05:13Got your point.

05:15This is a long debate.

05:17We will get into this on another day.

05:19Just tell me,

05:21is the civil disobedience coming or not?

05:23Because the last one flopped.

05:25A lot is coming.

05:27What is coming?

05:29Let it come, it won't be on 26th November.

05:31Bullets won't be fired.

05:33From your side or from their side?

05:35If it was fired from our side,

05:37then a lot would have happened.

05:39We will also bring weapons this time.

05:41Tell me, is there any such plan?

05:43If you inform some private people

05:45to kill us, then fine.

05:47But what is the problem in bringing our weapons?

05:49We have licensed weapons here.

05:51Are you threatening us?

05:53No, I am not threatening,

05:55I am simply saying,

05:57to protect myself, this is my right,

05:59given by the constitution of Pakistan,

06:01the licensed weapon I have,

06:03I can carry it.

06:05If a person tries to kill me,

06:08whether he is in uniform or someone else,

06:10there is a big difference.

06:12We have never fired a bullet on a person in uniform.

06:14Keep one thing in mind.

06:16When the rangers died,

06:18who fired the bullet?

06:20We have brought an investigation.

06:22That's what I am saying.

06:24I will never support this act.

06:26We are not going to fire a bullet on our uniform.

06:28Because of this uniform,

06:30my father was martyred.

06:32More than 160 people of my party were killed.

06:34We have taken bullets.

06:36Tell me this.

06:38What next?

06:40Do you want civil disobedience or not?

06:42Civil disobedience will come with full throttle.

06:44There will be a protest.

06:46There will be a public street protest.

06:48We will protest.

06:50We will have a Jalsa.

06:52We will have a Jalusa.

06:54We will have a Long March.

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