"Nawaz Sharif's Decision to Not Attend Was a Bigger Mistake Than PTI's Absence...," Kamran Murtaza

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00:00Mr. Kamra, tell us, are you forming an alliance with them or not?

00:04Because they don't even ask you in small things, they don't share.

00:07So if they don't want to take your opinion in small matters,

00:13then how will big matters work?

00:16It is like this, we had formed a committee a long time ago,

00:19in which I was also involved and it was decided that whatever will happen,

00:23we will go on issue-to-issue,

00:27and whatever will happen will happen in Parliament with consultation.

00:30But after that, there was no consultation.

00:33We also complained about this last night.

00:34We were at the Iftar dinner of Mustafa Nawaz Gokar.

00:37Mahmood Khan Sahib was also there, friends of PTI were also there,

00:40Allama Sahib was also there.

00:42Almost all the parties were there.

00:43We said that you tell us this,

00:46on the 26th Amendment, you were involved in everything.

00:50Now you are trying to put all the blame on us.

00:53In the presence of all of them, this happened yesterday, I was present.

00:57The second thing is that we had decided among ourselves

00:59that we will do issue-based politics among ourselves,

01:01and there will be consultation every time.

01:04When did you have a consultation?

01:05Then the third thing is that you have given your name,

01:08we thought that you have to come,

01:10and we were sitting in Mohan Sahib's house till midnight,

01:13and we have decided that we have to go.

01:16So everything happened.

01:17In the morning, we came to know that he is not coming.

01:19And even we did not have the courage to inform,

01:23so in this way, there is a lot of mistrust.

01:28We are human beings, we are not Sufis,

01:32that if someone says that if you slap me once,

01:36I will slap you again.

01:39This does not happen.

01:40All these things come to our hearts.

01:42We are human beings, we are ordinary people.

01:45I don't know, we don't understand what he is saying.

01:47Yesterday, I was also there,

01:49and Maulana Sahib was also there.

01:50And everyone was sitting in Mustafa Nawaz Sahib's house.

01:53That these are the things.

01:54You say this in this,

01:56after that he says that he is fine,

01:58we will deal with these matters in the future.

02:01I am asking you because,

02:03if you form an alliance,

02:05this seems to be a very natural alliance.

02:07Because in KP, all your seats are taken by him,

02:11the political base is controlled by all your PTIs.

02:14You and his alliance seem to be very difficult anyway.

02:18On a larger scale, something can happen.

02:21Ultimately, both of you are political opponents of that power base.

02:25So if that reality is in its place,

02:27and there are so many such misgivings,

02:31then it seems that it is very difficult

02:33for you to form an alliance.

02:35We had digested that.

02:37We moved forward in the working relationship with him.

02:41But after that, the small things that happen,

02:44that such a thing is wrong as a whole,

02:47but its result is good,

02:49that is ours.

02:50In that, we do not even consult with you.

02:52There is opposition.

02:54You are in opposition, we are in opposition.

02:56But we do not want to sit together and take any decision.

02:59When we do not want to sit together and take any decision,

03:01we do what we want to do.

03:03They do what they want to do.

03:05So we complained to them last night,

03:07that for God's sake,

03:09if you say such big things,

03:11let's go together.

03:13But what will happen to these things?

03:16Whatever decision has been taken,

03:18whatever has been said,

03:20that we will do it this way,

03:22we will do it this way,

03:24tell us one thing,

03:26whether it has been implemented or not.

03:28There is no answer to this.

03:30I know you do not want to go anywhere,

03:32so let me ask you a few questions first.

03:34Tell me one thing,

03:36your point of view came out,

03:38you thought that PTI should have come,

03:40it was a mistake,

03:42they should not have come.

03:44It does not matter to me,

03:46because they have Prime Ministers,

03:48they have Chief Ministers,

03:50I thought that on such an occasion,

03:52that person should come,

03:54who has a lot of personal experience,

03:56understanding, knowledge,

03:58from others.

04:00In your opinion,

04:02was it a wrong message

04:04that Nawaz Sharif did not come?

04:06What was it?

04:08Yes, it was a completely wrong message.

04:10And a bigger wrong message than that

04:12he is a leader,

04:14two governments are made by him,

04:16it is possible that all the governments

04:18are made by him,

04:20but his presence

04:22is a very big thing,

04:24and it is a good thing,

04:26and he should have given

04:28his intellectual input,

04:30he should have given a speech in the House,

04:32but he opted not to come,

04:34and I think it was a worse decision than PTI.

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