Stay the Course or F Them Picks?

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Jim and Jon discuss whether Brad Holmes should stay the course and continue finding solid players in the draft or start trading picks for top-notch free agents.

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00:00You guys may not have heard any of what Brad had to say yesterday, but I think that clip he's talking about

00:06F them picks and the mentality they want to draft

00:08They'll trade a pick here or there for a player that makes sense

00:11But they are not in F them picks mode and he even kind of bristled at the window talk to like we don't believe in

00:18Windows the walls aren't closing in

00:20Certainly doesn't feel like they need to

00:23Get uber aggressive. He said stay the course a bunch yesterday John

00:27Yeah, and I mean he also used the term it's why we are where we are well

00:31I mean that that that cuts both ways

00:33We just lost in the divisional round and maybe we're there because we don't have that one player

00:40I don't necessarily think that's the reason now, but I'd also think

00:45Yes, you could continue to build for the draft

00:47And I'm not a proponent of a two first round picks for this guy and and you know

00:53Unless like he said it's the right fit and it's gonna help the team win I

01:00Don't know that that guy's out there, and I know everybody's probably right now thinking of Max Crosby

01:04maybe that is

01:07The only one that would make it plausible

01:11But then you start thinking about salary cap you thought I started thinking about guys that you might not be able to keep down

01:15The road who would you be willing to cut later to have Max Crosby opposite Aiden Hutchinson?

01:21And I think that list probably grows quite a bit

01:23Because everybody would would would drool over the possibility of seeing those two guys on the field for a long time here in Detroit

01:30So where are you guys at stay the course or F them picks two four eight five three nine ninety seven ninety seven and we'll play

01:36More Brad Holmes here in the next half hour, so you get better idea of just where he's at

01:40But for you guys is it stay the course

01:42Or would you like to see them be a little more urgent in trying to capture a Super Bowl while the irons hot I?

01:48Think this is right now in the offseason

01:53it's a stay the course for me and

01:56Because I think Brad Holmes. What do we know about him in his track record, and it grows every year

02:02He's been pretty good at draft picks not everything is hit

02:06But a high percentage for him higher than most general managers have hit and this to me is a year where?

02:13you're going to need a

02:15Lot of picks because you've got to you've got a

02:19water the garden and

02:21Fertilize it a little bit

02:23Offensive line and depth on the defensive line

02:26We've seen this year depth of the defensive line is is huge

02:30And I don't know I can't nobody can predict injuries all you know is that they're going to happen

02:34Maybe not at the same rate or on this you know it in on one side of the ball as they did this past year

02:42But you can never have too many offensive linemen you can never have too many defensive linemen

02:47I think that was that was made abundantly clear to us this year and

02:51with an aging o-line like

02:55How long does it take Frank to recover from this year with the torn pack the foot the toe that says he feels great?

03:03terrific and

03:04But as guys get older, and we heard Brad talk about Kevin Zeitler guys of a certain age

03:10You know it it really becomes a part of the equation

03:14Can you make it through a 17 game season enough to where we can count on you?

03:19And if they're looking at Zeitler going well

03:22Do we want it do we want to re-up them and bring them back?

03:25And and I'm just using him as again because you can put Taylor Decker in there Frank

03:29You can put Glasgow in there are we good with?

03:3313 of the 17 games

03:35That's about what you got out of Decker this year mm-hmm. Are we good with that?

03:40And do we have the talent to step in there in those four games where?

03:45One of those older offensive linemen aren't gonna be so it's a long way to get to I'm good with right now

03:53Not of a building through the draft

03:56Now when you get into the season, I think you open up the opportunity at the trade deadline

04:02to say F them picks

04:05Yeah, I know he's done such a good job back-to-back executive of the year Brad Holmes

04:10We got a really good one here in Detroit

04:12Far be it for anyone to question the way he has built or plans to keep building this football team, right?

04:19He's done it unorthodox. He drafted a running back in the first round

04:22He took a an off-ball linebacker in the first round, but he has kept his offensive line going

04:27He's found all pros late in the draft st. Brown and Kirby Joseph

04:31You certainly want him to have draft capital

04:34But I'd be lying if I said I didn't want them to show more urgency given the fact that they had squandered two different real

04:40Chances to win the Super Bowl because he's such a good drafter. I

04:45am comfortable giving up a first-round pick or

04:48Potentially two first-round picks because I know I can find Kirby Joseph in the third or I'm on Ross st

04:53Brown in the fourth Max Crosby was essentially begging to get out of

04:57Vegas with the comments about how much he appreciates what Detroit's doing right now

05:02We know Brad Holmes called about Max Crosby last November per Dave Burkett. That's not just some blogger

05:08That's Dave Burkett has trusted a beat writer as there is saying no they called about Max Crosby

05:13So I don't think I'm asking for anything Brad Holmes hasn't already been interested in doing well

05:17And Brad basically said that yesterday without talking about names as you get to the trade deadline

05:23And he said that was the most challenging

05:25You know moment for him as a GM because yeah, you're gonna call on all these guys and then all of a sudden you figure out

05:31They're not all available and and and it starts to really

05:35Pair down on those that might be available, and he obviously ended up landings a Darius Smith

05:40But when you start removing guys like Trey Hendrickson Max Crosby all the guys that we had talked about at that time

05:46If if they're not even on the market

05:48And there's nothing that you could send Cincinnati or Vegas at that time to get those guys now you're looking at two or three

05:56individuals

05:57One of them had you know starting

06:01caliber of play

06:03But you're not the only ones in the market at that time which I think kind of makes it more remarkable that he was able

06:08To send what he wanted to Cleveland to get said areas so Crosby's contract. I believe is up after 26

06:1626 is when the cap bill starts to really come due in Detroit. It's when golf's deal really balloons

06:20It's when Sewell and st. Brown are really gonna be deals to navigate around and you can and Brad will

06:26It's gonna be hard to keep everybody beyond

06:292026 you start throwing in Hutchinson and Joseph and branch and LaPorta and no one asked about JMO yesterday

06:34Maybe he's not here. I don't know my point is if you like all these guys you want to keep all these guys

06:38It may not be possible. So is it worth trying to win while you have them all in the next two seasons and

06:44And I know that is a little more f-than-picks, and that's not stay the course

06:47But isn't that the best way to try to win a Super Bowl while I have?

06:51Joseph branch LaPorta JMO Hutch on top of the guys

06:54They already paid on top of a short window with Max Crosby might be he's not gonna be here long term

06:58But you bring him in for two years to chase a Super Bowl for a team

07:01He grew up rooting for it makes a lot of sense to me and because we know Brad Holmes has called on it

07:06I don't think I'm just spewing this morning. I don't think I'm just trying to force something

07:10I want I think it's it's at least a consideration for Brad Holmes

07:14And it would pull him away from the current course and it would push him more towards f-them picks

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