Stay or Go Game with Lions Free Agents This Offseason

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Costa and Jansen play the stay-or-go game with every Lions free agent this offseason, claiming which players they would keep and who they would be fine with letting go.

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00:00We are officially into the Lions offseason, and before we get to players,

00:04they may draft down the line or free agents they may target starts in-house.

00:08How about a little stay or go free agent edition?

00:14Tom's got names.

00:16All right, I think the first one's the biggie.

00:19Carlton Davis.

00:21Should he stay or should he go?

00:22I say stay now.

00:24It's going to depend.

00:24Does he want like a three or a four year deal?

00:27That's where it gets dicey.

00:28But he's everything they could have wanted and more man coverage veteran.

00:33And he played very well.

00:34He's a Super Bowl champion to me.

00:35That's a stay.

00:36I think it's a stay as well.

00:38And, you know, part of it, if you're going to bring back or promote

00:41somebody within as defensive coordinator, why are you doing that?

00:44It's consistency.

00:45It's terminology.

00:46You have a guy that has played in this system that.

00:50That Kelvin Shepard is familiar with, knows his skill set.

00:54Why bring in somebody else to do a similar job?

00:57Now, if you're going to try and majorly upgrade, you're going to have to go out

00:59and spend a whole bunch of money and it will come down.

01:02And a lot of these guys kind of come down to what are you willing to spend?

01:05And what's the term going to be?

01:08But I think for Carlton Davis, he proved his value.

01:11And I think this is a guy that you definitely want to bring back.

01:14You want someone you trust if you're going to play man,

01:16you got to put him on an island and he'll come up in the run game.

01:18He's a perfect film.

01:20No more than two years, though.

01:22No way.

01:23No way.

01:24I might go three.

01:26I think he's three if it's really only two, though.

01:28I mean, you can get kind of fuzzy with it.

01:30Yeah. All right.

01:30Levi owns a recay.

01:32This is a hard no for me.

01:34And I know that there was a lot of discussion coming out of training camp.

01:37Oh, he's healthy.

01:38And look at what he could do.

01:39He could play all four spots.

01:42He was still limited in what he was able to do.

01:45I didn't like him coming out.

01:47One year out of the four he's been able to play.

01:51And he may have played well enough to for somebody to pay him.

01:54Just not the it's a very Jonah Jackson esque.

01:58I think player.

01:59I think Jonah Jackson did more than he did.

02:01Yeah, there's no question he did more.

02:03But you didn't want to sign him for 20 million a year.

02:05To me, this is go.

02:06And I feel like we had smoke blowing up our you know what?

02:09He just never delivered.

02:10It flashed for like one game, I think.

02:13But with him, that's a Brad Holmes admission, by the way.

02:16Highest pick.

02:17He will not resign.

02:19All right. Next one.

02:20Kevin Zeitler.

02:23Stay. He was super productive last year.

02:25The offensive lines, the engine.

02:26And I want to have depth.

02:28Maybe Mahogany displaces Glasgow and Glasgow becomes a flex player

02:32who can play center or guard.

02:33But I like depth.

02:34I like productive players.

02:35I'd keep Zeitler.

02:36It's going to come down to money and it's going to come down to amount of years.

02:38Now he was on a one year deal.

02:39Was it a one year prove it deal?

02:41If you prove it, we're going to give you a two year deal.

02:42I don't I don't know that I want to go two years because he did miss time.

02:47So this one is a I.

02:50You could say go and replace him.

02:52I think it's if you can get them at the right price and the right length, then yes.

02:57But I'm fine with Mahogany stepping in there and addressing backups in a different way.

03:02All right. I think this one's interesting.

03:03A little bit of an unsung one with fans.

03:06Tim Patrick.

03:07I said go.

03:08He's productive, but I don't think he's someone that's bolted down here.

03:11And that's a spot you could actually upgrade to depending on how the offseason goes.

03:14I agree. I think that we've seen that that position,

03:17that that that receiver position, we want to call it three, four,

03:21whatever you want to call it, is kind of interchangeable.

03:24You get a guy that you can rely upon for one year and it works.

03:28It helps. But he's had injury issues.

03:31This one's very interesting to me.

03:33I think the toughest one on the list, actually, Derek Barnes.

03:38Stay. I agree.

03:40I think he he provides great depth.

03:43He provides great flexibility.

03:45He can play a number of different linebacker positions.

03:47Special teams, too.

03:48Yeah, I think he's a guy that is valuable to this team.

03:50And I also think he's a guy that has proven his worth, but is not going to.

03:55It's not he's not going to command a big contract to break the bank. No.

04:00All right. The next one, if he Mella Fonwoo.

04:03No, I think this one's easy.

04:06And I know that, you know, coming in at the end of the last couple of years,

04:10he's been a nice addition and it's been fun.

04:13But you can't if you can't stay on the field, we can't be counted on for

04:1715 of the 17 games, certainly not 17 games.

04:20Then no item is to stay.

04:22But these are fringe guys, right?

04:24I think he has a role third safety.

04:26It's just a shame he wasn't healthy at the large portion of this season.

04:30Is that the first one you guys disagreed on?

04:33Yeah, I think so.

04:34But no, it was Eitler.

04:35Yeah, I was I was fine with him.

04:37He was go. Yeah. OK.

04:38Marcus Davenport.

04:40Go, go, go on the list.

04:44Yeah. And I mean, if you could ever get the most out of him, then.

04:49Yeah. And it was a good gamble.

04:51But he's a China doll. He just gets hurt.

04:54And that's a spot I want him to upgrade, by the way, to

04:56I wouldn't just feel comfortable rolling it back with him.

04:58I said that unsung fan favorite kind and Tim Patrick this year a little bit.

05:03But this is the true fan favorite Dan Skipper.

05:08To me, this one is a stay and I don't care about the whole fan favorite.

05:13This is a guy that

05:15when he came in, the first time he came in to play left tackle

05:18when Decker was down, I thought, oh, no.

05:20And it was not good.

05:22But the next time he was serviceable, I think he's a swing tackle

05:27that can be a backup on either side.

05:29We've seen what he can do as an extra offensive lineman.

05:31I think he provides really good value.

05:33He is an amazing locker room guy.

05:35His story is the stuff we all love.

05:39I want to see them upgrade the third tackle spot.

05:41I don't know how long Decker is going to be as productive as he's been.

05:45I'd like to invest in a swing tackle, so I would let Skipper go.

05:50All right. Next one, Khalil Dorsey.

05:53Go. Yeah, this is a guy that

05:57he can come in and play a very limited role.

06:01And the term I have down here and for the next guy is upgradable.

06:06Could certainly upgrade them.

06:07And it's not going to cost you a lot.

06:09And this next one, there's an acronym now, ABV,

06:12and it's anybody but Vildor.

06:14I think that's what fans want.

06:15I think that's what we want.

06:16Just you know what?

06:17You've got to have a depth guy.

06:18So Kendall Vildor, do you want him back?

06:20Again, upgradable.

06:21I know I'm jumping ahead in the line here, but I mentioned both guys upgradable.

06:26I think he gets a bad rap for the ball going off his face mask

06:29in the NFC championship game.

06:31He did play at times as a serviceable corner or nickel corner.

06:36But again, you're not going to have to pay much to upgrade.

06:40PFF graded him out as 114th out of 118 players at his position.

06:45It's not just us that don't like him.

06:47You can go.

06:48All right. The next one.

06:49I'm going to butcher this maybe, but Al-Quadeen Mohamed.

06:52Oh, good job. I think that's good.

06:54He had a couple of moments this year.

06:55I keep him stay.

06:57You're talking about some depth guys here that I think do provide.

07:01Good depth, and he can come in

07:05and give a guy a breather for a couple of plays.

07:08You can you can rotate him in.

07:09And I think he's a guy when you start talking about having to pay him,

07:14you're paying him for what, 10 to 12 plays per game max.

07:19And so that's how you've got to value him.

07:21But he can come in in those 10 or 12 plays.

07:23You're not going to get a huge drop off.

07:25Last one, Teddy Bridgewater.

07:27Hmm.

07:29This is interesting.

07:32And and I think that this this opens up the.

07:36Rabbit hole to go down for Hendon Hooker,

07:40the QB two, and what happens if Goff gets hurt?

07:44I don't even want to talk about if Goff gets hurt, but.

07:47I think you bring him back because I don't think Hendon Hooker

07:50is developing into the guy that they thought he would be.

07:53And Bridgewater is not old.

07:55Like, I know he stepped away, but what is he, 32?

07:58He is a guy that could still be serviceable like he was in that game.

08:04I think it's a lower ceiling with him as the backup, right?

08:08It's a it's a it's a lower ceiling.

08:11This this is some of the stuff that I hate during the draft.

08:14Lower ceiling, but higher floor.

08:16He is a guy that is is he's safe.

08:18That's a great way to put it. I think he's safe.

08:20What's going on with Brunel?

08:21Is he staying? I don't think we know yet.

08:23So he could be Bridgewater could be the quarterback coach.

08:25Very likely. I actually I was going to say that I go.

08:28He's already been into coaching, and I think that's the direction he wants to go.

08:31I think you still have to give Hendon Hooker a shot to be the backup quarterback.

08:34This was a go for me.

08:36But he could stay on the coaching staff.

08:37Can I throw something else at you?

08:39You didn't get to prepare, so it's a little unfair. It's fine.

08:42Who on this roster is most likely going to be the most surprising departure?

08:47And it can be on this list or could be somebody else

08:51like a cut candidate, you're saying?

08:52Just.

08:52Sorry, I shouldn't have done that.

08:57I will not hold this to you.

08:59Oh, boy, I'm I'm trying to look at this, I think.

09:03All right, you know, I'm saying is it Darius?

09:06Maybe it would.

09:08There's a roster bonus. They may have to rework that.

09:11They may just want to pivot somewhere else.

09:12I don't know. I don't you're not holding me to it,

09:14but there's a name that's out of left field that maybe could surprise people

09:17if he wasn't back.

09:18Zytler would be the other one, but I don't know how surprising it is.

09:20Given he's getting older and even Holmes kind of in his press conference,

09:24Brad Holmes acknowledged, hey, you know, as you get older,

09:27there are some considerations there.

09:29I think the big surprise might be Derek Barnes.

09:31I think there is somebody out there that might decide that he is worth

09:35more than the Lions are willing to pay him.

09:37I could see that at stay or go.

09:38Lions free agents. Ninety seven.

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