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If Bani and Bushra Bibi Are Not Present on January 17, Will the Court Announce the Verdict?
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1/14/2025
If Bani and Bushra Bibi Are Not Present on January 17, Will the Court Announce the Verdict?
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00:00
Has the judge given any indication that whether he will come on 17th or not, I will announce the verdict.
00:06
No, the date of 17th January has been given. I think the verdict will come on 17th January.
00:10
There are no two opinions in this.
00:12
Do you have any further doubts?
00:14
No, I don't think so.
00:16
So what is the point of waiting for four days?
00:20
Nothing.
00:22
So what was the need?
00:24
In this polarized environment, I think the judiciary itself should look at some things.
00:31
Give it the name of self-accountability, whatever it does.
00:33
In Islamabad High Court, I am saying again and again, it looks at the administrative side.
00:37
They should look at these things.
00:39
Earlier they used to say, why did you go to court at night?
00:42
When the questions were raised in the cipher, they must be looking at what is going on.
00:49
Today the verdict could have been announced.
00:51
There were no doubts, no two opinions.
00:53
And it should have been announced.
00:55
And if I am deducing from what you are saying,
00:57
you also don't think that it will depend on what the negotiations are on 16th,
01:01
so the verdict will not come on 17th.
01:03
The verdict that was supposed to come, will come on 17th.
01:05
Just because of these reasons, it was not announced and it was wrong.
01:07
Is this what you are saying?
01:09
Yes, yes, absolutely.
01:11
We don't have any such information that we can take it and do it with anyone.
01:13
Because now the judge himself has also said that I have signed.
01:16
The verdict has been written.
01:18
On 23rd December, when the date of 6th January was being given,
01:21
it was around 9.30pm.
01:23
The judge said that he will give you the next date after 10 minutes.
01:25
But we waited for 2.5 hours.
01:27
He said that he will tell you after looking at the schedule.
01:29
So on 6th January, after looking at the schedule for 2.5 hours, something was given.
01:33
Today it was given immediately.
01:35
So today the judge said that I was on training on 6th January.
01:38
So it means that on 23rd December, the date of 6th January was not to be given.
01:42
So this was a surprise for me.
01:44
That the date of 6th January was not to be given.
01:47
Yes, absolutely.
01:48
And on 18th December, another thing.
01:50
On 18th December, when the verdict is secured,
01:52
when the judge closes the file at 9pm after the arguments,
01:56
he says that the verdict should be given on 23rd December.
01:58
It means that it is clear that I have to write the verdict in the next 3 days.
02:02
So it didn't come on 23rd, 6th or 13th.
02:05
So it is a strange thing.
02:07
The value of justice is at stake.
02:09
Do you think this will be a punishment?
02:11
I think it will be a punishment.
02:14
What do you think, how much will it be?
02:16
The maximum is 14.
02:18
Now it is up to the judge how much punishment he will give.
02:21
Is there anything in this that if the punishment is more than these years,
02:24
then it becomes difficult to get bail?
02:26
Is there anything like this?
02:28
Or the number doesn't matter whether you get bail or not?
02:32
The number doesn't matter.
02:34
So is there anything in this case that if the punishment is more than these years,
02:36
then it will be difficult to get bail?
02:38
So is there anything like this?
02:40
The punishment for 3, 5 or 7 years will be suspended soon.
02:44
The punishment for 10 or 14 years will be a little difficult.
02:46
But if the punishment was given on 23rd,
02:50
I spoke to Mr. Salman Sardar,
02:52
he said that he had prepared an appeal,
02:54
and he had to file it on 24th.
02:56
If the appeal had been filed by today,
02:58
then it would have been matured by today.
03:00
Because when the appeal has to be filed,
03:02
the decision on the suspension of the sentence
03:04
has to be made in 1 month and 40 days.
03:06
If the decision is made on 17th,
03:08
and the punishment is given,
03:10
then you have to keep in mind that
03:12
the suspension of the sentence
03:14
has to be made on 27th February.
03:16
Whether you get bail or not,
03:18
the decision will be made in 40 days.
03:20
So the punishment is different
03:22
when the appeal has to be filed
03:24
and the decision has to be made.
03:26
But the day the appeal has to be filed,
03:28
technically you are not a criminal?
03:30
Technically, yes.
03:32
Your punishment has to be filed.
03:34
You can be released on bail?
03:36
Yes, you can be released on bail.
03:38
The case is still going on?
03:40
Yes, the case is still going on.
03:42
Even the Evanfield case was still going on?
03:44
Yes, the bail was still going on.
03:46
When the bail is done,
03:48
the appeal is fixed after a long time,
03:50
and then the situation changes.
03:52
You are right,
03:54
I am not going to talk about the current situation.
03:56
But I would like to talk about
03:58
the cases that have come forward
04:00
in the past,
04:02
where the case has not been heard properly.
04:04
This has not happened?
04:06
No, not at all.
04:08
More than 100 cases have been heard,
04:10
and the last witnesses of this case,
04:12
who were also the investigators,
04:14
have been given 35 cases of Jira.
04:16
Because the lawyers of Bani PTI
04:18
and Bushra Bibi were delaying the hearing.
04:20
There was no time limit?
04:22
No, not at all.
04:24
The lawyers themselves were admitting
04:26
that even if we go to the High Court,
04:28
we will not be able to go to this base
04:30
because we have not been given
04:32
the opportunity to go to the High Court.
04:34
So we will only be able
04:36
to go to the High Court
04:38
based on our merits.
04:40
Do you think the bail will be difficult
04:42
or will it be done?
04:44
I mean, will the punishment be temporary?
04:46
Well, first of all,
04:48
the punishment will be temporary,
04:50
and then we will be able to go to the High Court.
04:52
It is possible that the judge will acquit us.
04:54
You just said that you will not do it.
04:56
I think the judge will have a different opinion.
04:58
Mr. Sakir, what do you think?
05:00
In my opinion,
05:02
if there is a punishment in the case,
05:04
then the possibility of acquittal is more.
05:06
One thing is very important.
05:08
In the Cypher case,
05:10
the judge did not see
05:12
the copy of the cipher.
05:14
Based on this,
05:16
the case was completely cleared.
05:18
In this case, there is a document
05:20
that neither the prosecution nor the government
05:22
has opened.
05:24
The government has not opened that document for two years.
05:26
The case is still in the sealed envelope.
05:28
The case is still in the sealed envelope.
05:30
One person says that
05:32
whatever is written in the sealed envelope
05:34
was from the State of Pakistan.
05:36
The accused says
05:38
that it was not from the State of Pakistan.
05:40
Now, if the sealed envelope
05:42
does not open,
05:44
and the judge did not see it,
05:46
and if the case is brought to the High Court,
05:48
the question arises
05:50
that he did not see that it was there,
05:52
then how will it be established?
05:54
Where is the sealed envelope?
05:56
It is with the federal government.
05:58
Did the court ask for the sealed envelope?
06:00
No, no.
06:02
There are no two opinions in that.
06:04
The sealed envelope is there.
06:06
But the court asked us to give it
06:08
so that it can be decided.
06:10
No, no.
06:12
Neither the prosecution nor the court asked for it.
06:14
And neither did the government,
06:16
which talks about it again and again,
06:18
say that the court,
06:20
because there was a note
06:22
in the sealed envelope,
06:24
so it can be taken.
06:26
But the court did not ask for it.
06:28
No, no.
06:30
The prosecution had to give it.
06:32
The prosecution could have given it
06:34
to strengthen the case.
06:36
Or the federal government could have
06:38
asked the court to give it
06:40
so that the judge could see it.
06:42
Because in the Cypher case,
06:44
there was a lot of debate
06:46
around this one point.
06:48
And then the court said
06:50
it was a big loophole.
06:52
It was a big loophole.
06:54
It was a big loophole.
06:56
It was a big loophole.
06:58
It was a big loophole.
07:00
It was a big loophole.
07:02
It was a big loophole.
07:04
It was a big loophole.
07:06
It was a big loophole.
07:08
It was a big loophole.
07:10
It was a big loophole.
07:12
It was a big loophole.
07:14
It was a big loophole.
07:16
It was a big loophole.
07:18
It was a big loophole.
07:20
It was a big loophole.
07:22
It was a big loophole.
07:24
It was a big loophole.
07:26
It was a big loophole.
07:28
It was a big loophole.
07:30
It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
07:34
It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
07:48
It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
07:52
It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
08:00
It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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It was a big loophole.
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