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00:00Mr. Barrister Aqeel Malik,

00:02this is the same Ayn-e-Tarameem that I don't know when it was supposed to come.

00:04I don't understand, we are having meetings.

00:06Today, we had a meeting with Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif.

00:09So, when is the Ayn-e-Tarameem coming?

00:15In the name of Allah, I am Wasim. Thank you very much.

00:17Look, it is obvious that when we are developing a consensus,

00:21and we want a broader consensus with an effective opinion,

00:26so that tomorrow no one has any objections.

00:27And with that in mind, today,

00:29I myself, with the engagement of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan

00:32with the civil society,

00:34with our points regarding this constitutional amendment,

00:39I also told them about it.

00:41It is obvious that they also requested,

00:43they also suggested that they should not do it this way.

00:45But look, there is no document in front of us.

00:47These are mostly working documents.

00:49I also told them about the steps to legislation.

00:51Now, it is being said that it should be made public.

00:54When a document does not exist at all,

00:56when there was a working paper or a working document,

00:59then the IROs petitions are also filed

01:01that it was published in Gazette Notification.

01:04If the document does not exist at all,

01:06then what was to be voted on in the announcement of the Parliament?

01:12There was a document to be voted on, wasn't there?

01:14Yes, there was a working document.

01:17In the special committee,

01:19everyone was given a copy of the working document.

01:21It was not the property of the house.

01:23And it could not have been the property of the house

01:25if it had not been approved by the CCLC and the cabinet.

01:28And if it had been the property of the house,

01:30then it would have been the property of the house.

01:32But what is the problem in making it a public property?

01:35When the 18th amendment was passed,

01:36when the entire constitution of Pakistan was reviewed,

01:39there was a public debate.

01:41There was a debate in civil society.

01:42Lawyers were talking differently.

01:43Conventions were being held.

01:45Media... What is so secretive about this?

01:47This is a public document.

01:48Everyone can give their opinion on it.

01:49There is nothing secretive about it.

01:50I will tell you again.

01:53The real stakeholders of the parliamentary parties,

01:58the political leaders of the parliamentary parties,

02:00all the people present in the special committee,

02:03and the legal fraternity,

02:06the law minister stood up for 4.5 hours

02:10and told us about all the salient features.

02:11And he also gave them the document,

02:13our working paper, so that they can also give their opinion.

02:15This is why the Pakistan Bar Council also gave their opinion.

02:18They also gave their opinion on Article 68.

02:23Apart from that, all the parties are working on their own documents.

02:29When all these documents are put together,

02:31we will correlate them and prepare a document

02:35on which we will introduce the major consensus

02:40on which we will introduce them.

02:43Okay. I will talk more about this.

02:45Meanwhile, Mr. Murtaza Wahab,

02:46who is the senior leader of the party,

02:48is the translator of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.

02:50And today he was present in the meetings

02:52with Mr. Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif and Maulana Faddul Rehman.

02:54Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.

02:56Yes, Walaikum-o-Alaikum.

02:57Sir, thank you for your time.

02:59Tell us, the meeting between Mr. Nawaz Sharif and the Noon League,

03:02is it a coincidence that you and the Noon League

03:07have the same candidate, which you gave to Maulana Faddul Rehman?

03:14Look, Waseem, the meeting that took place today with Mr. Bilawal,

03:20was basically to convey the point of view of the People's Party

03:24to Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif regarding the Constitutional Court.

03:28It was to remind him that this idea was of Respected Benazir Bhutto

03:33and Mr. Nawaz Sharif,

03:35when the decision was made in the Charter of Democracy.

03:40In today's meeting, Mr. Mian and his delegation

03:44agreed that we need to act on the Charter of Democracy.

03:51And they gave their full support to Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.

03:58And Mr. Bilawal appreciated that his character

04:03has been very good in the past in democratic traditions.

04:06And he should play that role once again.

04:10Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif is a complete supporter of the Constitutional Court.

04:13Yes.

04:14Right. So, sir, the Constitution that you shared with Maulana Faddul Rehman,

04:19should it be considered the Constitution of the People's Party

04:21or the Constitution of the People's Party and the Noon League?

04:25No, Waseem, this is the Constitution of the Pakistan People's Party.

04:28All right. So, how will this exercise proceed?

04:30You have shared your Constitution with Maulana Faddul Rehman.

04:32Will you both try to reach a consensus?

04:36Is that right?

04:37Will the Noon League and you both try to reach a consensus?

04:41Basically, the People's Party and the JUI are trying to play the role of a bridge

04:47to bridge the differences in the consensus building.

04:53And in this regard, there is a complete uniformity of thought

04:59between the People's Party and the JUI.

05:03Maulana Faddul Rehman himself is a supporter of the Constitutional Court.

05:07As I requested you yesterday,

05:09Maulana Faddul Rehman will share with us his views on the Constitution.

05:13His legal team and our legal team are working on it.

05:18As soon as his draft is completed, his details will be shared with us.

05:23Along with this, I would like to tell you

05:25that the Parliamentary Committee that was formed by the Speaker

05:30on this draft and the Constitutional Court

05:33was held at the National Assembly at 11 o'clock yesterday.

05:37All the members of the Parliamentary Political Committee are present there.

05:42We hope that they will come there and present their views

05:47in front of the Committee so that the consensus building can be carried out.

05:50Sir, as you said about Mr. Nawaz Sharif that he is a supporter of the Constitutional Court,

05:55with the same understanding that Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari has,

05:59that there should be a Constitutional Court, a Chief Justice and a Secretariat.

06:02Is Maulana Faddul Rehman in the same sense...

06:04Yesterday, he was suggesting to Mr. Kamran Murtaza

06:07that there should be a Constitutional Court in the Supreme Court.

06:11We had enough discussion on that yesterday. I won't repeat it.

06:13But is Maulana Faddul Rehman in the same way as you and Mr. Nawaz Sharif want?

06:19When we met Maulana Faddul Rehman today,

06:20did he give you the impression that he is a supporter of the Constitutional Court?

06:23Or is his opinion a little different?

06:25Right now, there is a need to make up the face.

06:28That thing is not complete yet.

06:30That's why I am talking about the concept.

06:32And there is consensus on the concept.

06:34How will the face come out?

06:36There is a discussion on that.

06:38There was a discussion today as well.

06:39Actually, there is a lot of difference.

06:42There is no difference.

06:43You are saying that there should be a court,

06:45there should be a Chief Justice.

06:46Judges and Maulana Faddul Rehman are saying that all of this should continue.

06:49There should be a mirror bench in this.

06:50There is a lot of difference.

06:52Maulana is not saying this.

06:53This is Kamran Murtaza's personal opinion.

06:56So, Maulana's opinion is different from this?

06:58If this point of view comes forward from Maulana's side,

07:01from the JUI's side,

07:04then the matter will be corrected.

07:05But what point of view has come forward today

07:08when we met today?

07:09Has Kamran Murtaza's personal opinion come forward?

07:12Today, the basic point was that

07:14since the meeting is at 11 o'clock tomorrow,

07:16the JUI was requested to participate in the meeting.

07:20They should convey their point of view.

07:22The People's Party reiterated that

07:25they want to work on a clean constitutional bill.

07:30They want to work on a constitutional court.

07:32God willing, when the deliberations start tomorrow

07:35in front of the Parliamentary Committee,

07:36things will be cleared automatically.

07:39Let me just say this.

07:40Mr. Murtaza, please comment on this.

07:42Maulana's party's translator,

07:44whose name is Aslam Gowri,

07:46he says that

07:47it is not his opinion,

07:49but it is the opinion of his party

07:51that nothing has been decided.

07:54He says that

07:55he has given the impression

08:00that he is not in favour of a constitutional court.

08:04He has given an impression.

08:06If giving an impression is a good thing,

08:09then it is fine.

08:10We have been interpreted in the same way in the country

08:13that Pakistan is in this condition.

08:15I think we should work on black and white.

08:18Things should be clear-cut and categorical.

08:20So, you have enough reasons to believe

08:21that Maulana may come up with a different opinion.

08:24God willing, we believe that

08:26even though there were many differences in the past,

08:29the political parties,

08:30especially the People's Party, the Moon League,

08:33the JUI,

08:34all the political parties worked together

08:36and bridged their differences.

08:38I will give you an example of that on 18th.

08:41Mr. Murtaza, let me quote-unquote.

08:43Let me quote-unquote.

08:44I think this is an impression and a half.

08:47It is more than that.

08:48He says that he does not want a constitutional court

08:52which is superior to the Supreme Court.

08:55Translation, JUI.

08:57The constitutional court you were talking about

08:59was practically superior to the Supreme Court.

09:01In fact, a friend of the government

09:03had called it the Super Supreme Court

09:05out of innocence.

09:08So, will the constitutional court you are talking about

09:10be superior or inferior to the Supreme Court?

09:12Look, everyone creates their own terminology.

09:16I think that our view is that

09:18there will be a specific court for constitutional cases.

09:21And for other military or civil cases,

09:25criminal cases,

09:26there will be a separate court

09:28whose ultimate appellate forum,

09:30which will be the most superior forum,

09:32will be the Supreme Court.

09:34Okay.

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