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Jimmy Carter's Funeral Creates Awkward Moments for Trump, Obama, Biden and Harris | TMZ Live
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1/9/2025
President Jimmy Carter's missing out on some serious drama -- his funeral created a mini soap opera between President-elect Donald Trump, all his White House predecessors ... and his former VP Mike Pence.
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President Jimmy Carter's funeral service held this morning at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C.
00:06
And boy, was it dramatic.
00:08
As expected, when we lose a former president, all living presidents who are healthy and able attend this.
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And we had it this morning with five either former or current or elected, future elected presidents there.
00:26
You had Bill Clinton, George W., you had Barack Obama, you see President-elect Trump sitting next to him.
00:33
And in the front row, President Biden, Kamala Harris, and their spouses, of course.
00:38
Well, not all their spouses.
00:40
Not all their spouses. I meant Biden and Harris.
00:42
Notice, because I think this is really relevant, Michelle Obama is MIA.
00:46
We'll get into that in a minute.
00:48
We'll get into it.
00:49
But you've got to look at the entrances. They are amazing.
00:53
The real drama began when President-elect Trump arrived with Melania and says hi to Al Gore.
01:01
And watch this.
01:02
But Mike Pence.
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Mike Pence.
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I mean.
01:05
Shaking hands.
01:06
Which I actually expected.
01:08
Expected that they would shake. Yeah, I mean, in that setting, what else can they do?
01:12
But obviously we all know the backdrop of what happened on January 6th, four years ago.
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And the aftermath.
01:18
Yes, the tension there.
01:20
So let us keep going on this.
01:23
And you're right.
01:24
It just gets better.
01:25
As he said in the tease, as this is playing out, we're watching it going like, oh, my gosh, what happens?
01:28
Mike Pence.
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Well, there's Barack Obama.
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And then Barack Obama walks in.
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You're like, OK, what's going to happen?
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Well, look, he's shaking Mike Pence's hand.
01:34
He shakes Mike Pence. Al Gore says hello.
01:37
And you're like, all right, is he going to say hello to Donald Trump?
01:39
Is he going to say hello?
01:41
He really didn't.
01:42
He dipped a little bit toward Trump, but clearly he's not embracing him, obviously.
01:49
Went down, said hello to Dan Quayle and his wife.
01:51
And there was no eye contact, really, with Donald Trump.
01:55
But they're sitting next to each other.
01:57
Yeah.
01:58
And they didn't choose these seats.
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They knew this was going to be.
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So you got to look at this.
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So Barack Obama sits down.
02:04
And Donald Trump then starts to talk to him.
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And Obama at first looks awkward.
02:09
Flipping through the program.
02:11
They're not talking about the program.
02:13
No.
02:14
They're not talking about the program.
02:15
This is the game you play at an event like this.
02:16
And then all of a sudden, they start chatting.
02:19
And they are having.
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I got to say.
02:22
They seem to be.
02:23
They're broing down.
02:24
They seem pretty congenial.
02:25
Like everything was.
02:26
They're laughing.
02:27
I would love to know what their conversation was.
02:30
There are lip readers who are looking at this right now.
02:32
What was their conversation?
02:34
Why?
02:35
Like Barack Obama was laughing at a point.
02:36
Well, look, I'm sure there's a lot of civility.
02:38
Look, politics aside, they're part of an extraordinarily small fraternity of guys who have been president of the United States.
02:45
And it's only men in this country, obviously, who have been president.
02:47
At this point.
02:48
So they're sitting there.
02:49
And they're in this fraternity.
02:50
And that's usually what they do at a gathering of a lost president.
02:53
Because at some level, they are all part of a very exclusive club.
02:57
Now, Michelle Obama not interacting.
02:59
That, to me, speaks volumes.
03:00
Because she doesn't have to.
03:01
Bill Clinton didn't interact with Trump.
03:02
Nor did W.
03:04
Hillary?
03:05
Nor did W.
03:06
Yeah, look, we're in very polarizing times.
03:08
To me, the interaction with Mike Pence was the most telling, though.
03:11
Because this is not about civility and putting politics aside.
03:14
Donald Trump's supporters, many of them wanted to harm physically Mike Pence.
03:18
So for Mike Pence to look him in the eye, that, to me, that interaction must have been the most tense moment of the whole thing.
03:24
So my recollection is when George Bush Sr. died and they all got together, Michelle Obama would not shake Donald Trump's hand.
03:32
And the stories came out that she found it unforgivable that he had questioned her husband's birthplace.
03:42
And that she didn't show up here.
03:44
We don't know why, but you could speculate that it may well be because of this bad blood.
03:51
And so the fact that Barack Obama sat there and was…
03:55
Gabbing with him.
03:56
Gabbing with him.
03:57
Smiling.
03:58
Okay, so you know my question, right?
03:59
So what happens when he gets home?
04:00
That's my question.
04:01
What happens when he gets home?
04:02
That's my question.
04:03
That is my question.
04:04
He's going to say, what am I going to do?
04:06
I had to be seated next to him.
04:08
They sat us in succession.
04:10
I had no choice.
04:11
I had to take that.
04:12
So did you have to sit there and laugh at him?
04:14
Did you have to laugh with him?
04:15
Did you have to bro down with him?
04:17
You know what?
04:18
Actually, if he didn't, we would be talking about the fact that he intentionally…
04:22
I agree with you.
04:23
And there's something that's probably good for the country, right?
04:27
That…
04:28
I agree with you.
04:29
They clearly have politically are polar opposite.
04:33
And by the way, we're showing pictures of Trump smiling.
04:35
Obama was smiling and laughing too.
04:37
We saw him smiling.
04:38
They were both kind of engaged.
04:40
In that moment.
04:41
This is good for the country, right?
04:42
It is.
04:43
I agree.
04:44
To be able to have conversations with our people who have different political…
04:47
So superimpose your wife, Mary, for Michelle Obama.
04:50
What do you tell Mary?
04:51
I would have sat stone-faced.
04:53
I'd have been like, look, dude, I want to talk to you, but it's going to be later.
04:57
Hey, this is Lauren Johnson from Iowa.
04:59
And I am not surprised Barack Obama cracked a smile sitting next to Donald Trump.
05:03
Donald Trump does not need to be in D.C.
05:06
He needs to be on the road doing comedy.
05:08
And honestly, good for Kamala Harris.
05:10
She came there.
05:11
She saw.
05:12
She left.
05:13
She didn't say a peep.
05:14
That is the energy I am bringing into 2025.
05:16
I am minding my business.
05:18
I am protecting my peace.
05:20
That's it.
05:21
Did you just see that look?
05:22
Oh, my God.
05:23
Did you just see that?
05:24
She looked back.
05:25
It was almost like she was saying, is Obama talking to him?
05:26
It said everything.
05:27
Is Obama actually talking to him?
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It said everything.
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