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Heated Debate Between Faisal Chaudhry And Rauf Klasra - Watch Video

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00:00How do you see media and social media?

00:02How many restrictions are there on our media in this year, in 2024?

00:06I can tell you, as usual, the space is always open and closed.

00:11In 2023, after 9th May, he knows a lot of things.

00:17He's been an information minister also.

00:19She's saying that in my time, everything was allowed.

00:21These restrictions, from 2018 to 2019...

00:25Our time was the golden age.

00:28It was a golden age.

00:31If I don't mind, I would like to make a comment.

00:34Your bus didn't run. You get people beaten up here.

00:37If you get another chance, you'll get them beaten up.

00:39Don't say that. You weren't such a good Democrat.

00:41In your time, you've had a lot of problems with the media.

00:45It's okay now.

00:47I think so, Mr. Fahad.

00:49You can sit with me on this.

00:51In my time, it was the best time.

00:53You're not wrong when you say this.

00:56If a package is made at any time and it's run, you can't go.

01:00Whether the bus runs or not, it's your perception.

01:02You can make it at home.

01:04I sat at home. I came to the field.

01:06A lot of people traveled in your time.

01:08The real money was made by the media in our time.

01:12For a change.

01:14Do you remember how to fix the national media?

01:18How to do it?

01:20Do you remember your statements?

01:22I'm still against this.

01:24I'm still against it.

01:26Why are you wasting taxpayer money?

01:28I'm still against it.

01:30You had a few more.

01:32General Gafoor, Imran Khan.

01:34You made a lot of plans for the media.

01:36Take some responsibility.

01:38You can do your programs with me.

01:40You can make me on your TV.

01:42I'll sit with you.

01:44Okay.

01:46When Mr. Fahad says that in his time,

01:48there was a lot of milk and honey.

01:50The media was free.

01:52Let me tell you.

01:54There was an increase in your profits.

01:56You are the one who started

01:58the information war against the media.

02:00This is a topic.

02:02I'm talking in generic terms.

02:04It's not specific.

02:06Okay.

02:08Hello.

02:10I'm coming to you, Mr. Mirza.

02:12Go ahead.

02:14I'm just saying to go ahead.

02:16Fahad and Rahul.

02:18Our space is always open.

02:21Since the hybrid system came,

02:23space is shrinking.

02:25We can tolerate this pressure.

02:27We can tolerate it.

02:29Sometimes there is someone

02:31under the hammer.

02:33It depends on who is the darling

02:35and who is the opponent.

02:37Is there a way to stop this?

02:39Will it continue like this in 2025?

02:41This is a trend.

02:43In 2008-2013,

02:45the people's party had the most space

02:47for the media.

02:49In 2013-2018,

02:51the PMLN's tolerance level

02:53was low.

02:55I don't think

02:57we had a problem with the politicians.

02:59No, we did.

03:01When you wanted to run a campaign

03:03against Nawaz Sharif,

03:05the media was told

03:07not to go there.

03:09The real role was to run

03:11a campaign against Imran.

03:13I agree with you,

03:15but you can't buy the politicians.

03:17You can't buy the politicians

03:19calling you and saying

03:21please don't do this.

03:23It happened many times.

03:25Do you take it seriously?

03:27It depends on the relationship.

03:29It depends on the intention

03:31and capability.

03:33Everyone has an intention.

03:35Those who have more capability

03:37are more effective.

03:39In 2018,

03:41the tolerance level was low.

03:43Since 2018,

03:45the tolerance level

03:47has been low.

03:49I don't think

03:51it will increase in 2025.

03:53Social media is

03:55the seed

03:57that we sowed

03:59on the mainstream media.

04:01We used to see

04:03400-500 people

04:05getting killed,

04:07murdering people,

04:09billions of dollars.

04:11We used to see

04:14that in 2013

04:16the level of

04:18allegations on the mainstream media

04:20is very low.

04:22Let me spin this question.

04:24Did you squeeze the mainstream media

04:26and open up

04:28the space for social media?

04:30You don't let TV or newspaper

04:32publish, but you can't stop it.

04:34Did you open up the space for that?

04:36This is a very important point.

04:38You can tolerate

04:40the criticism,

04:42but you can't tolerate

04:44the criticism.

04:46We say things

04:48that you don't like,

04:50but you can say it in a way.

04:52It's not our job

04:54to tell you

04:56what to do.

04:58It's our job

05:00to do it in a better way.

05:02There are some things

05:04that you can't do,

05:06but it's written in your constitution

05:08that you can't go that far.

05:10Do you think

05:12that the mainstream media

05:14has been the target

05:16of criticism

05:18because

05:202,000 people

05:22work for you?

05:24People should know

05:26that if the channels

05:28shut down,

05:30it's very difficult

05:32to stand there.

05:34You have to beg

05:36and ask for directions.

05:39The conditions get worse.

05:41So don't shut down the channels.

05:43Let's work in this space.

05:45But because of that,

05:47on November 26 or 24,

05:49everybody was saying

05:51that we are watching social media

05:53because information is on social media.

05:55The mainstream media

05:57is not allowed to do anything.

05:59One thing that was unprecedented

06:01was the kind of actions

06:03that were taken against the journalists.

06:05Even after November 26,

06:07the government of Shahbaz Sharif

06:09was not allowed to do anything.

06:11If you look at the basics

06:13of social media,

06:15when our

06:17Mukta Dara

06:19or the establishment

06:21had appointed a keyboard warrior

06:23a few years ago,

06:25you appointed thousands

06:27and thousands of people

06:29and they got paid.

06:31You made it an economy

06:33that whoever speaks against it

06:35will get paid.

06:37When there was a popular narrative

06:39about dollarization

06:41and some people

06:43from the old establishment

06:45sat down and said

06:47that whoever speaks against

06:49the establishment's

06:51favourite politician

06:53will be harassed.

06:55This hybrid system

06:57that you and I are complaining about

06:59started in 2018.

07:01Even the Prime Minister

07:03and the colonels

07:05used to get calls

07:07from the ISPR

07:09asking them to delete

07:11certain tweets

07:13that you cannot do

07:15on Twitter.

07:17Even the owners

07:19used to get calls

07:21asking them to delete

07:23certain tweets

07:25that they did not like.

07:27So the hybrid system

07:29that you have given

07:32has been commercialized.

07:34Mr. Ikhlasra has said

07:36exactly what

07:38all these people

07:40believe

07:42that it can be generated.

07:44Atar had said

07:46in great detail

07:48that there is no control

07:50on social media.

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