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Talks Between PTI and Establishment - Faisal Vawda Told Inside Story
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9/8/2024
Talks Between PTI and Establishment - Faisal Vawda Told Inside Story
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00:00
Today's Jalsa and the atmosphere, is there anything better for PTI in the future?
00:06
I am asking this question again and again because some of our friends were saying,
00:09
in fact, Raghuf Hussain himself said that on 22nd August, when the establishment refused us,
00:17
that's when they handed over the NOC of art to us.
00:19
With the establishment, our deadlock is over, the breakthrough is done.
00:23
If we allow the Jalsa to take place on the 8th, then we will consider it as a sign that the breakthrough is still going on.
00:29
And if we don't allow it to take place on the 8th, then it means that something has gone wrong.
00:31
So, we allowed it to take place.
00:32
Do you agree with this interpretation or not?
00:34
Look, Mr. Badami, there is a 0.1% chance that a captain, a constable or a soldier of the army
00:41
will be involved in some kind of a negotiation.
00:43
So, the rest is a long story.
00:44
This is given with a lot of category and clarity.
00:46
This is a perception. This is the same army, right?
00:48
The one that was bad, the one who didn't want to be the chief.
00:51
So, why did the army start being disciplined today?
00:53
Okay.
00:54
So, the first question starts from here.
00:55
Okay.
00:56
Give this one to me. Your coffee is getting cold. Thank you.
00:59
The program will go on, but I will have my coffee.
01:02
Okay.
01:03
So, you don't have to worry about anything.
01:07
In today's convention, you will have to see one thing.
01:10
Yes.
01:11
I will say the same thing about the government.
01:13
They get upset.
01:14
Brainless, headless, shameless.
01:16
Incompetency was seen.
01:17
There was no need to do anything.
01:19
There was no contention.
01:20
So many people had to come.
01:22
Okay.
01:23
So, you have put a container.
01:24
Islamabad has been closed.
01:25
The road to the cars has been diverted there.
01:27
Maybe you and I would have got down to see the face.
01:29
So, they would have been pulled out in the crowd.
01:31
And they would have said that the convention was not big.
01:34
It was smaller than this.
01:35
But the crowd that was there, 35% of it was the crowd that went crazy.
01:39
The rest came from anywhere.
01:40
The rest who came from here, came from the traffic.
01:42
So, the government mishandled and putting a container was stupidity.
01:44
Incompetence, if I can say on the show, was stupidity.
01:49
Man, aren't you a part of the government?
01:50
I am not.
01:51
I am a part of Pakistan.
01:53
So, the rest were not the ministers of Bulgaria.
01:55
They were from Pakistan.
01:56
I am not the minister, sir.
01:57
I am telling you this.
01:58
Okay.
01:59
You should have let them do it.
02:00
All this chaos happened because of this.
02:02
The convention that you saw, you saw it in a bad condition because of this.
02:06
Okay.
02:07
Mr. Gakla, how was the convention?
02:08
Sir, I don't agree with Mr. Faisal.
02:12
The convention was big.
02:13
Mr. Khan did a crowd pool.
02:16
And for a long time, his efforts were going on.
02:18
Most of the crowd came from KP.
02:21
There must have been some local people there.
02:23
The big convention that should have come from Punjab,
02:25
people should have come.
02:26
At least, they didn't come.
02:28
And if you have allowed them, PTI or Mr. Imran Khan,
02:31
you have promised, the same thing, that the deal of 22 August,
02:34
you have completed the deal.
02:35
Yes.
02:36
Then let them do it.
02:37
After that, you have turned the whole of Islamabad into a war zone.
02:39
It seems that some of you are in Baghdad, some of you are in Afghanistan,
02:41
some are in Libya, some are in Syria.
02:43
God forbid, a civil war-like country you have.
02:45
And you have done that to the whole city here.
02:47
I think it is 30-35 km away from the city.
02:50
If I am not mistaken.
02:51
You have shut down Islamabad.
02:53
People are scared.
02:54
There are 10 containers outside the Marriott.
02:56
I don't know why they are there.
02:57
So, you have created an atmosphere of the convention.
02:59
So that Sushi Khaani doesn't come, thinking he is a dummy.
03:01
Now, look at the local administration,
03:03
look at the Minister of Internal Affairs,
03:04
look at the government,
03:05
that they have created fear here.
03:06
The convention is 30-40 km away.
03:08
And there is fear all over Islamabad,
03:09
that God forbid, this is a war zone.
03:11
So, at night, they say, turn off the lights,
03:12
so that no one can kill the bomb.
03:13
The conversation has started at 9 o'clock.
03:15
You have already scared the people of Islamabad.
03:18
You have created an atmosphere of the convention.
03:20
That, yes, this is Mr. Khan's convention.
03:22
People have to come.
03:23
You are unprotected.
03:24
Maybe it is because a certain percentage
03:25
didn't come out of their homes,
03:26
that it was a very bad convention.
03:27
There was a lot of violence.
03:28
No, the people of Islamabad
03:29
don't come out of their homes anyway.
03:31
I mean, it was till F10,
03:32
the crowd didn't come out.
03:33
If the crowd came out after F10,
03:34
then I would have accepted it.
03:35
Here, there are holidays for people,
03:36
they don't come out.
03:37
It is possible that 5-10% come out.
03:39
Let them go.
03:40
You have given them a legal permission,
03:42
this PTA.
03:43
Either don't give it,
03:44
or the DC has given it.
03:45
Let the people go.
03:46
If people want to go,
03:47
they can take the flags,
03:48
go on the cycle,
03:49
go on the bus,
03:50
go on whatever.
03:51
And what does Mr. Gandapur's speech indicate?
03:52
So, I will come to that.
03:53
The psychological barrier
03:54
that Mr. Khan was trying to overcome
03:55
for the past 6 months
03:56
and was not able to do it 3 times,
03:58
was that he needed a big convention,
04:01
he needed clips,
04:02
TV shows,
04:03
your Twitter,
04:04
V-Lodge,
04:05
to show the world.
04:06
Recorded?
04:07
Again, you need recordings
04:08
to show the world
04:09
that there is a popular leader,
04:10
sitting in jail,
04:11
thousands and millions of people,
04:12
their perception,
04:13
the media will cover it.
04:14
Our media will also cover it.
04:15
So, for 4, 5, 10 days,
04:16
this thing will come and go.
04:17
There will be pressure on the government,
04:18
there will be pressure
04:19
on the establishment
04:20
that if we want to talk,
04:21
we have to talk to Mr. Imran Khan.
04:22
Right.
04:23
A popular leader is sitting in jail,
04:24
plus you can see the situation
04:25
in Bangladesh.
04:26
Right.
04:27
Now, Mr. Khan feels
04:28
that the situation in Bangladesh
04:29
is very fresh.
04:30
Yes.
04:31
This has been going on for a long time,
04:32
so people's minds
04:33
will keep on revolving.
04:34
So, he keeps on saying
04:35
the same thing again and again.
04:36
He also says,
04:37
he also talks,
04:38
which I think
04:39
Sher Afzal Marwat
04:40
has also said,
04:41
that 3-4 thousand people
04:42
or 3-4 lakh people
04:43
can come out of Bangladesh.
04:44
Why can't you come out?
04:45
There are 17 crore people
04:46
and we have 25 crore people.
04:47
So, psychologically,
04:48
it was very important
04:49
for Mr. Khan
04:50
to have a meeting.
04:51
And he has been trying
04:52
for a long time.
04:53
He has been fighting
04:54
in his party as well.
04:55
So, it was a good day
04:56
for PTI.
04:57
I think it was a good day
04:58
for PTI.
04:59
But, the speeches
05:00
that have been made,
05:01
you should first
05:02
take a comment
05:03
from Mr. Malik.
05:04
Right.
05:05
I still disagree
05:06
with Mr. Faisal
05:07
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:08
I still disagree
05:09
with Mr. Faisal
05:10
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:11
I still disagree
05:12
with Mr. Faisal
05:13
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:14
I still disagree
05:15
with Mr. Faisal
05:16
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:17
I still disagree
05:18
with Mr. Faisal
05:19
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:20
I still disagree
05:21
with Mr. Faisal
05:22
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:23
I still disagree
05:24
with Mr. Faisal
05:25
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:26
I still disagree
05:27
with Mr. Faisal
05:28
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:29
I still disagree
05:30
with Mr. Faisal
05:31
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:32
I still disagree
05:33
with Mr. Faisal
05:34
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:35
I still disagree
05:36
with Mr. Faisal
05:37
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:38
I still disagree
05:39
with Mr. Faisal
05:40
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:41
I still disagree
05:42
with Mr. Faisal
05:43
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:44
I still disagree
05:45
with Mr. Faisal
05:46
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:47
I still disagree
05:48
with Mr. Faisal
05:49
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:50
I still disagree
05:51
with Mr. Faisal
05:52
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:53
I still disagree
05:54
with Mr. Faisal
05:55
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:56
I still disagree
05:57
with Mr. Faisal
05:58
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:59
I still disagree
06:00
with Mr. Faisal
06:01
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
06:02
I still disagree
06:03
with Mr. Faisal
06:04
of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
06:05
I still disagree
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