"9 May ka jin logon par ilzaam hai, jo judicial inquiry kyun nahi hui?" Ali Muhammad Khan

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00:00Ali Muhammad Khan sahab, you must have listened to the press briefing of DJI and SPR.

00:03One thing that is very important in it is that the case of justice will not be completed

00:08until Mansoob Asaaz and the real masterminds behind 9th May are punished.

00:16Now, this statement has come at a time when there will be negotiations on 2nd January.

00:21Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, are you seeing the matter of negotiations being impacted by this?

00:26Considering that the establishment is an important stakeholder in Pakistan's case.

00:32Thank you very much. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

00:37Allahumma salli ala Muhammadin wa ala Ali Muhammad.

00:40This is an important statement.

00:42I think that DJI and SPR have not repeated this statement.

00:51This is our demand as well.

00:54The demand that DJI and SPR are making, they are making this demand now.

01:01We have been making this demand since 9th May.

01:05Since Imran Khan sahab was released, I think it was 13th May.

01:08I was arrested on 11th May, when Khan sahab's case was in the Supreme Court.

01:13On 13th May, Khan sahab's statement was released.

01:17Since then, there has been only one statement of Imran Khan sahab and Tehreek-e-Insaf.

01:21Tehreek-e-Insaf itself demands that the judicial inquiry of this 9th May incident should be done.

01:31So that whoever has a role in this should come forward.

01:34But it should be a judicial inquiry.

01:36It should not be a military trial of civilians.

01:40It should be a proper judicial commission inquiry.

01:43And our Mazaqraq has also done an inquiry of 9th May, which is one of our main demands.

01:49So we are also making this demand.

01:51But Imran Khan sahab, there has been a response to this.

01:54The response is that you used to say that this was a false flag.

01:57This was done by the army itself.

01:59This was done by the law enforcement agencies themselves.

02:01The people of the agencies were involved in this.

02:03So now DJI and SPR have also asked this question that if the people of the agencies were involved,

02:06then why did we punish the people of our agencies by putting them in the box of justice?

02:12So why is there a blame on that?

02:13Why is there a regret on that?

02:14Why is there a worry on that?

02:16Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf should be happy that

02:18Faiz Ameed has been punished for this matter or for intervening in politics.

02:24As far as General Faiz sahab is concerned,

02:28we have a clear position on that of Tehreek-e-Insaf that it is an unnecessary matter of the army.

02:34And there is no need for us to comment on it or say anything.

02:39But the people who are accused of 9th May,

02:45why hasn't there been a judicial inquiry yet?

02:48A high-powered inquiry under the High Court,

02:51or a high-powered commission under the Supreme Court,

02:54which should be headed by a sitting judge of the Supreme Court.

02:57We ourselves are demanding this.

02:58Ali Mughal Khan sahab, any sitting judge or senior-most judges,

03:02because your demand so far is that of senior-most judges,

03:05will it also be accepted that any judges on the side of Ayni Bench should also listen?

03:11Or some other judges should also listen,

03:14other than the three senior-most judges you are demanding?

03:19Look, we are not in favour of judge-shopping,

03:22but it should be with the senior-most.

03:24Even in the military, the senior-most are the ones who come forward.

03:31This is also the case in bureaucracy.

03:33So if you want to do an inquiry,

03:35why would anyone want to do it with a junior judge?

03:39Why not the sitting Chief Justice or his senior-most sit on it?

03:44Or there is another solution to this.

03:46Why not full-bench?

03:47All of them should sit.

03:48Why can't they sit?

03:50If they could sit on other issues,

03:52then this is a very important matter.

03:55So the PTI, instead of demanding three senior judges,

03:59if there is a full-bench, then Pakistan will accept your justice.

04:02That is a very interesting point.

04:04Until now, there was a demand for three senior judges, right?

04:08Look, what you said,

04:10that if someone says,

04:12you yourself said,

04:14that the judge should come to the bench,

04:16we will say that he is the senior,

04:18he will say this and that,

04:20someone will say this, someone will say that,

04:22then everyone should sit in the Supreme Court.

04:24Everyone should sit and investigate.

04:26I don't think there will be anything

04:28that if something blatant comes up,

04:30why would a sitting Supreme Court judge want

04:33to put pressure on something that is wrong.

04:35But what has happened now,

04:37what has happened in the military courts,

04:39you tell me, is this justice?

04:41Trialing civilians and political workers in military courts.

04:44Military courts are either for terrorists,

04:47who are jet black terrorists,

04:49or for the military personnel,

04:51who have their own internal work,

04:53I don't have any other work.

04:55Mr. Ali Khan, that political workers thing,

04:57you are right that they are political workers,

04:59but here the line becomes very grey,

05:01if they attack the security institutions,

05:03are they just political workers,

05:05or do they comply with the definition,

05:07where the terrorists work,

05:09do they comply with the definition?

05:11This is a grey area at this time,

05:13either clarify this grey area,

05:15by sitting in the parliament,

05:17because it will not be clear in this way,

05:19that they are just political workers,

05:21but whenever the political workers want,

05:23they can attack the security institutions,

05:25make a claim.

05:27Look, I don't think anyone has attacked,

05:29or protested,

05:31and some people have accessed the protest,

05:33there is no denying that.

05:35Who can tell anyone,

05:37to go and set fire,

05:39the one who set fire is wrong,

05:41the one who broke the bodies,

05:43the replicas,

05:45whoever did it is wrong,

05:47who is defending that?

05:49The point is not this,

05:51the point is that at the end of the day,

05:53these are civilians,

05:55these are political workers,

05:57the military courts are closed for terrorists,

05:59we are often asked this question,

06:01we are often asked,

06:03that in your time too,

06:05civilians were punished by the military courts,

06:07absolutely,

06:09who can tell,

06:11was there a worker of Nood League,

06:13People's Party, ANT, Jamaat-e-Islam,

06:15or Jamaat-e-Islam?

06:17The government often answers this,

06:19Ali Muhammad Khan says,

06:21did any of our workers ever go and

06:23make a claim on a security institution?

06:25I am just trying to understand,

06:27because there is another response to this.

06:29We are not here to have a political debate,

06:31the People's Party or Nood League,

06:33I will answer them,

06:35my point is,

06:37my point is,

06:39if you ask me,

06:41tell me,

06:43did we ever make a claim on security?

06:45Did we ever kidnap a PIA?

06:47Did we ever attack the Supreme Court?

06:49Did we ever,

06:51like the Chief of Army Staff,

06:53he was saying,

06:55take him with you,

06:57he will not go to Pakistan.

06:59Did we ever kidnap a PIA?

07:01This will go far,

07:03we are not even talking about it.

07:05My point is,

07:07the civilians who were punished in our time,

07:09they were terrorists,

07:11a terrorist does not come in a uniform,

07:13he also wears a sherwar shirt,

07:15he was a civilian,

07:17they are political workers,

07:19they are the future of the nation,

07:21they are your own children,

07:23and second thing,

07:25I am saying this for the fourth time,

07:27if you pick up a gun

07:29and attack our rangers,

07:31police, military,

07:33our armed civilians,

07:35if you could talk to them,

07:37if you could talk to the terrorists,

07:39you did not do the dialogue,

07:41which was done by Mr. Safdar.

07:43Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan,

07:45let's go to the Balochistan side,

07:47but there is a problem with the dialogue,

07:49that terrorism ended in 2021.

07:51My argument is other,

07:53I am saying that,

07:55when the Corps Commander Peshawar

07:57wore a Guldistani uniform,

07:59there was no dialogue,

08:01if you could talk to them,

08:03why are you being so strict

08:05with your own children?

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