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" Bani PTI Hamesha Se Mazakraat Ke Haami Thay," PTI Aakhir Baat Karna Kis Se Chaah Rahi Hai? ?
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12/14/2024
" Bani PTI Hamesha Se Mazakraat Ke Haami Thay," PTI Aakhir Baat Karna Kis Se Chaah Rahi Hai? ?
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00:00
Mr. Sheikh, please clarify. There is a condition, there is no condition.
00:04
If Imran Khan is released, there will be negotiations, if not, there won't be.
00:08
What Imran Khan said, I feel that the whole leadership outside is very excited,
00:12
there are less attempts to get me out of jail.
00:15
Does this mean that there won't be negotiations?
00:18
Give some clarity, because the government, you can call it an excuse,
00:21
they are saying that they don't know what to do among themselves,
00:23
then how can we negotiate?
00:25
Look, the first thing is that the Negotiating Committee, which was formed by Imran Khan,
00:31
that day also put those points in front,
00:33
under which these negotiations take place,
00:36
and whose door has been opened,
00:38
then under which QR will they be?
00:40
In that, in reference to 9th May and 26th,
00:43
our criminal cases and the imprisonment,
00:46
and a High Power Judicial Commission has been demanded.
00:49
In this regard, the door of negotiations has been opened.
00:51
For the past 1.5-2 years, on TV, in various talks,
00:55
in talk shows, in person, on the floor of the house,
00:58
the whole world, especially the government, has been telling us that
01:01
you don't negotiate, we want to negotiate, sit with us.
01:05
A time has come, and this is not the first time,
01:08
people may not do a little research,
01:10
I have sat in a lot of talk shows today,
01:12
this is not the first time,
01:14
Mr. Khan has always been in favor of negotiations,
01:16
Mr. Khan, 7 months ago, your channel also reported,
01:20
Mr. Khan had nominated three people,
01:22
that if somebody, in reference to negotiations,
01:25
whenever there is a discussion,
01:27
the people who come forward in the parties,
01:29
and become self-imposed spokespersons,
01:32
to avoid them, Mr. Khan had nominated three people,
01:36
6-7 months ago also,
01:38
if someone wants to talk, talk to them.
01:40
Again, after 24th, this five-member committee was formed,
01:44
the doors of negotiations were opened,
01:46
in the larger interest of the country,
01:48
and the state of uncertainty,
01:50
which is arising, and the article 245,
01:52
which the government has invoked,
01:54
which we all have done legally,
01:56
and we will also take legal action on it,
01:58
while doing that, the institutions and the people,
02:00
who have conspired to stand in front of us,
02:02
and the results that have come out of it,
02:04
which can spoil the situation tomorrow,
02:06
under that, Mr. Khan thought,
02:08
that it is better that we open it,
02:10
it is not necessarily the government,
02:12
only Umar Ayub said a sentence,
02:14
that whether it is a human or an angel,
02:16
people have presumed,
02:18
whether it is the government or not,
02:20
whether someone has gone to bed or not,
02:22
it meant concerned quarters,
02:24
and that can be anybody.
02:26
So, Mr. Sheikh, are you saying,
02:28
for my understanding,
02:30
please tell me,
02:32
are you still saying that it is not the government,
02:34
we will also talk to the establishment,
02:36
I mean, we want to talk to the establishment,
02:38
because the last time,
02:40
Mr. Sheikh, the talk was very clear,
02:42
that we do not want to talk to the government,
02:44
I have a complete thought,
02:46
I will run that trail in a while,
02:48
but at that time,
02:50
we wanted to talk to the establishment.
02:52
So, if you will listen to me,
02:54
I will tell you,
02:56
our point is that,
02:58
this government is on the head
03:00
of the establishment,
03:02
today, if the establishment
03:04
raises its hand on this government,
03:06
in two hours,
03:08
they will not know,
03:10
where the Punjab government
03:12
is.
03:14
And without those concerned parties,
03:16
we cannot even talk.
03:18
What are you saying?
03:20
Okay, let's go.
03:22
You are saying,
03:24
without those concerned parties,
03:26
we cannot even talk.
03:28
Yesterday, Mr. Rana Sanaullah
03:30
said in my show,
03:32
that when there will be a discussion,
03:34
we will also make the establishment sit.
03:36
We will not take permission from them,
03:38
but we will make them sit.
03:40
He has said this.
03:42
So, this means that,
03:44
it is very important for the establishment
03:46
to get ready,
03:48
and the establishment has given
03:50
a very clear message,
03:52
that we should not talk,
03:54
but the politicians should talk.
03:56
So, now what?
03:58
We are at a standstill.
04:00
Look, the thing is,
04:02
we have opened the doors of discussions.
04:04
If somebody would like to talk,
04:06
that from now on,
04:08
we will use Article 245,
04:10
and our people will be martyred,
04:12
and shot,
04:14
there can be many consequences.
04:16
Just that you kill our people,
04:18
and give us these FIRs,
04:20
they don't need to be so smart,
04:22
to think that things will be suppressed.
04:24
Okay, tell me,
04:26
you have also said,
04:28
that there can be consequences.
04:30
You must have heard about
04:32
Ali Meen Gandapur,
04:34
you have also heard that.
04:36
Is this a suggestion?
04:38
Is this a threat?
04:40
I am not saying anything like that.
04:42
He has given you an example,
04:44
that in the countries,
04:46
where there is such violence,
04:48
there are such examples,
04:50
and this happens.
04:52
So, you should not do this.
04:54
You should not force the Pakistani people like this.
04:56
Because your actions,
04:58
can take people to that side.
05:00
The people are not someone's servants,
05:02
nor are they someone's slaves.
05:04
When you oppress people,
05:06
then it is difficult to control people.
05:08
People do not stay in the control of the parties.
05:10
So, he gave an example of other countries,
05:12
that this happened there too.
05:14
So, the actions of this government,
05:16
that they have done wrong,
05:18
that they have shot their own people,
05:20
their own children,
05:22
they have killed their own people,
05:24
they have martyred their own people.
05:26
This should be taken care of.
05:28
I always say this.
05:30
Now you clarify this again.
05:32
I want this to be 100% clear.
05:34
Now, who do you want to talk to?
05:38
Any concerned quarter who can deliver.
05:42
It is the same stance that we had a year ago.
05:44
If you can't deliver,
05:46
why would I talk to you?
05:48
It is common sense.
05:50
So, now tell me.
05:52
You said, any concerned quarter that can deliver.
05:54
And you are saying that the government cannot deliver.
05:56
So, try to join these things.
05:58
Try to extrapolate mathematically.
06:00
I don't know why I am clarifying you again and again.
06:02
I want to hear it from your mouth.
06:06
Because I have made it very clear.
06:08
I have said that the government cannot talk
06:10
without the will of the establishment.
06:12
You have confirmed my point.
06:14
You have said that it is necessary to
06:16
save the establishment.
06:18
Obviously, they have to say from their mouth
06:20
that we have to push them.
06:22
So, this is the way and this is the method.
06:24
You have clarified that you want to talk from there.
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