Establishment Ke Sath Baat Cheet, Kya PTI Aaj Bhi Isi Baat Par Khari Hai?

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00:00Tell me, do you still have the same stance that if we talk, we will talk to the establishment and not to the government?

00:09No, there is no such stance. If you remember, two months ago, the Jalsa of Sangjani took place.

00:16They opened the jail at 7 in the morning and delayed it.

00:21But after that, when the Jalsa took place, the roads were closed and unprovoked shelling was done.

00:29And there were FIRs given at the Jalsa, in which our Chief Minister, me and many leaders of our party were involved.

00:36So, the unprovoked road blockage is in front of everyone.

00:40A few days after that, Mr. Bali Khan announced that these people are untrustworthy.

00:46There will be no kind of engagement from the establishment at any level.

00:52If someone is doing it, then they will disengage themselves.

00:55So, how do you explain this, that 532 people are suddenly bailed out, 30 people are released from the mainline cases,

01:04and there is a fight going on, and there are other MPAs.

01:08People are saying that there is some kind of a quid pro quo going on.

01:11Let me complete the question.

01:14And the meetings that you are having with Mr. Khan,

01:17Mr. Khan has been very cautious vis-a-vis the establishment.

01:22So, are there any trends that are different?

01:25No, sir, there are no trends that are different.

01:27People are saying that the people of 9th May have been released.

01:31There are no substantial evidences.

01:35There are no solid evidences in the 9th May cases.

01:40Look, Mr. Sheikh, there was a punishment in the case of Iddat as well.

01:47If there is a punishment in the case of Iddat, then do you know how the laws are here?

01:56I know all that, but I think you should also know the difference between Punjabi Judiciary and KP's Judiciary.

02:04This is the same judiciary where the Chief Justice travels at night in the fog

02:08because of the bail of a woman.

02:12This is the same judiciary where in the whole of Pakistan, especially in Punjab,

02:16the MNAs who have been prosecuted for corruption,

02:20their protectives, their bails are given here in Peshawar

02:24because they are not denying justice.

02:27This is not done by anyone.

02:30In Punjab, there is no understanding of the judiciary.

02:33The difference between KP's Judiciary and Punjab's Judiciary has been there for a year and a half.

02:37If someone is released here, if there is any effect of a deal in this, then it is the same.

02:43Frankly, personally, I don't even understand the deal because if the deal is left to Mr. Khan,

02:49then the whole system will be reversed.

02:51The meeting has started.

02:55Today, we kept our six political leaders sitting for three hours

02:59and kept telling them to sign that you will not talk about politics inside.

03:03Ultimately, we made them sit and returned them from there.

03:06We did not let anyone meet.

03:08You mentioned 500 people.

03:10In that case, there is nothing.

03:13One judge discharged him.

03:16The second judge put them all in jail.

03:20When he went to court again, the second judge also discharged him.

03:25There is nothing.

03:27He did this by keeping hundreds of people in jail.

03:30Today, there is a very interesting article published in Mansoor Malik's Don.

03:36You will deny everything else.

03:39People who have spoken off the record are saying that there are a lot of differences.

03:43In that, he quotes PTI's Central Punjab's Additional General Secretary Sardar Azimullah Khan.

03:49He is on record.

03:51He says that the party's leaders have become complacent.

03:58They have broken the link with Khan.

04:02Instead of collectivism, we should listen to the people on the ground.

04:09He has spoken very harshly.

04:11He says that the leaders in the main positions are just talking.

04:16The rest of the system is upside down.

04:20So, there are differences on record.

04:22There are no differences.

04:24The Additional General Secretary of Punjab, Sardar Azimullah Khan, is our friend and brother.

04:28We have a lot of respect for him.

04:29His local issues are going on.

04:31Obviously, Hamad Azhar Khan is in Ruposhi.

04:35While he is in Ruposhi, he tries to run events in Punjab.

04:40Now, there are friends here who want to get rid of the people who have made sacrifices.

04:45We are free.

04:47We cannot be replaced by them for any reason.

04:49This is not possible.

04:51In every party, there is a small crib.

04:53Is there a settlement between Gandapur and Hamad Azhar?

04:57Who, sir?

04:59Gandapur and Hamad Azhar.

05:01Gandapur and Hamad Azhar, after the news that was circulated,

05:05both categorically came to the media and on TV

05:09and denied it through their video messages.

05:11I am not denying it, Malik bhai.

05:13Both of them have done it.

05:15That is why I am asking you.

05:17Do you think the relationship is good?

05:19I am asking you.

05:21The relationship is good.

05:23The relationship between KP and Punjab cannot go bad in PTI.

05:25They are brothers and they have to help out each other.

05:27It is okay.

05:29We can stay away from each other.

05:31Tell me one thing.

05:33Every third day, Gandapur makes a big announcement.

05:35Sometimes the blood is red.

05:37The revolution is red.

05:39Sometimes the roads will be closed.

05:41They will do a bomb blast.

05:43It looks like a story.

05:45Boy crying wolf, wolf.

05:47It is not a story, sir.

05:49Did they do anything to you?

05:51Sir, listen to me.

05:53If you don't say one thing, it will be very unfair.

05:55Tell me.

05:57All the mobilisation that they carry with them,

05:59show me the face of another minister in Pakistan's history

06:01who carries so many people with him

06:03like Islamabad.

06:05They used to say that

06:07a bird cannot fly on D-Chowk.

06:09A bird cannot fly on D-Chowk.

06:11They died of shame.

06:13Not just one bird,

06:15they killed thousands of people.

06:17They were local kids.

06:19They did not reach Gandapur.

06:21They reached KP House.

06:23They could not cross the Attock bridge.

06:25Okay, last question.

06:27Tell me.

06:29Has it been decided

06:31that

06:33you will not talk to anyone

06:35and you will not talk to the establishment.

06:37If you don't talk to them,

06:39how will things change?

06:43May Allah bless us, sir.

06:45In the light of the directions

06:47of our leader,

06:49we will increase

06:51the circle of peaceful protest

06:53on the floor of the House.

06:55Mr. Gandapur has said today

06:57that nothing will be achieved in this country

06:59by staying in the circle of law.

07:01Now the matter will go ahead.

07:03First decide between yourselves.

07:05If you don't talk to them,

07:07you will be forced

07:09to stay in the circle of law.

07:11That's what he was trying to imply.

07:13So, you will not talk to the government

07:15and you will not talk to the army.

07:17Will you only talk to them on the streets?

07:21Sir, I think

07:23the protest is on the streets

07:25and the actions of the protesters

07:27have been given

07:29by the Secretary General

07:31and by the Jets.

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