Madaris Registration Bil... Hukoomat Aakhir Kya Karna Chahti Hai? Jaaniye

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00:00Mufti sahab, let me conclude this discussion.

00:03Mufti sahab, you tell us first and then Rashid bhai.

00:06Mufti sahab, Rashid bhai says that if this matter goes to the Ministry of Education,

00:10then the Ministry of Education is an excuse to tighten the grip on the actual Madrasas.

00:14This is the aim of the government. That's why we won't let this happen.

00:17What do you have to say? If the matter goes to the Ministry of Education,

00:20then what will be the loss? Will there be any loss or?

00:23You just have to say, you just have to say,

00:25that why are you accepting a law without asking us?

00:29No, no, no, Badami bhai, these Madrasas,

00:34education is given here, right?

00:37This was our demand since 2000.

00:40And since 2005, this registration was not in the Ministry of Education.

00:45It was suspended.

00:46This was our demand from the Ulema, our elders,

00:49that it should go under the Ministry of Education.

00:52Because all the other procedures will be done from here.

00:56The attestation of our records, or giving it in equivalence,

01:00going to the student assembly and PhD, going for higher education,

01:04all those things are related to the administration.

01:07They are related to the Ministry of Education.

01:09Now listen to me.

01:11Let me say the last thing. Yes, go ahead.

01:14No, just a minute, just a minute.

01:16Sir, I am telling you. Yes, yes, go ahead.

01:18For the last five years, a representative of the religious organizations,

01:22who is a division level representative of Babalpur,

01:25last year he contacted me,

01:27that to get a registration in the Ministry of Trade and Industry,

01:31I have been going around for five years,

01:34and I have bribed thousands of rupees,

01:37but I did not get a registration.

01:39So when he came to us,

01:41this is a very easy procedure, he has done by the Ministry of Education,

01:45which within 15 to 20 days,

01:47without going around any office, without bribing,

01:52he gets the registration at home.

01:55The bank account is not open at all.

01:57In my own way, the bank account of Jamia Ilmiya is open.

02:00The bank account of our Ufaqs is open.

02:02All these facilities are due to the Ministry of Education.

02:05Okay, Mr. Mukhtar.

02:06It is not due to the Ministry of Trade and Industry.

02:08Okay, Mr. Mukhtar.

02:09Mr. Rashid, let's conclude the debate.

02:11Look, you have explained in detail,

02:14how the government will try to influence the distribution,

02:18if this matter comes under the control of the Ministry of Education.

02:20On the other hand,

02:21those who themselves are registered under the Ministry of Education

02:24and are running their schools,

02:25they are giving testimony on television,

02:27that the government has not interfered in the distribution at all.

02:30This is one thing.

02:31The second thing,

02:32Mr. Rashid, you know that this is a global environment,

02:34and we are a member of a global environment.

02:36There are right or wrong things,

02:38because there have been incidents at the global level,

02:40in 9-11.

02:41I am not going into this debate,

02:42whether it is right or wrong.

02:43If the government tells you,

02:44that sir, we also have some compulsion,

02:46we are not getting terror financing,

02:48the fund is not coming from a crime proceed,

02:51we also have to answer.

02:52So, sir, make such calculations,

02:54that we know,

02:55who is giving money to which school,

02:57tell us.

02:58So, what is wrong in this?

03:00Is this interference?

03:01Or is it the right of every government,

03:02to ask,

03:03that you run the institution,

03:04absolutely run it,

03:05but tell us,

03:06where are its funds coming from,

03:07because we have to answer the international institutions.

03:08Mr. Rashid.

03:09My opinion is,

03:10that our elders who were with you,

03:12take Muneeb-ur-Rahman on the line,

03:16it is more appropriate,

03:17that they answer him,

03:18because my answer,

03:19is not appropriate for them either,

03:21that they will immediately blame me,

03:23that they are political clerics,

03:24and we do not have a common interest.

03:26In our opinion,

03:27these are not scholars,

03:28in our opinion,

03:29it is the government.

03:30The question is,

03:31that with Fataf,

03:32if you have made any agreement,

03:34regarding my Madrasa,

03:35then why did you not take us in confidence?

03:37Isn't Maulana Fadlur Rahman a stakeholder?

03:39Isn't he a part of the parliament?

03:41Wasn't he a part of the PDM government?

03:43Why was that agreement hidden from Maulana?

03:45If you have made any agreement with Fataf,

03:47then put it in front of Madrasa.

03:49Put it in front of Mufti Taqi Usmani.

03:51Isn't Mufti Taqi Usmani the face of Pakistan?

03:53Isn't Mufti Taqi Usmani the well-wisher of Pakistan?

03:56Put it in front of Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rahman.

03:58Isn't Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rahman the face of Pakistan?

04:01Isn't he the well-wisher of Pakistan?

04:03Our opinion is,

04:04that if you are trading Madrasa,

04:07then we will not let you do this trade.

04:10Number one.

04:11Number two,

04:12my brother said that the accounts are open,

04:14but my Madrasa's account is not open.

04:16My Madrasa's matter is still hanging in Islamabad.

04:20Where will you go to the Ministry of Education?

04:22He says, go to the Ministry of Education,

04:24then I will be bound by them.

04:26Then you will have to come under Murabbi Nisam,

04:28if you go to a country.

04:30I am his mother.

04:32I am.

04:34I want to ask you,

04:35in which university is the translation of the Quran taught?

04:38In which university is Tafseer taught?

04:41In my Madrasa,

04:42even Matriculation has been declared compulsory.

04:44And what should the Madrasa do for you?

04:46And how can I come to the Ministry?

04:47We are giving you an audit report.

04:49We say we have no objection to the audit report.

04:51But you say no.

04:53The way FATAF is asking for an audit report,

04:55give it that way.

04:56The way World Bank is asking,

04:57give it that way.

04:58You tell me,

04:59what is the government asking you

05:00that you think you should not ask?

05:01We are not related to Pakistan.

05:02We are related to Pakistan.

05:03No, we did not ask.

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