Hukoomat Akhir Kya Islahat Le Kar Aa Rahi Hai? Kya Anay Walay Bil Manzoor Ho Jaien Ge? Fahd Husain

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00:00Correct.

00:01So, Fahad sahab,

00:02what is your take on this?

00:03Ultimately, it's all a number game.

00:04I can't dare to say this in front of both of you that this is my information,

00:07because your information and analysis is a billion times more than mine.

00:13But it seems that the government will definitely make an effort

00:16to increase the number of judges,

00:18to increase the age of the judges.

00:20For that, we need numbers.

00:21Is there a better chance of managing those numbers

00:25or not, Fahad sahab, in your opinion?

00:28Thank you, Wasim bhai.

00:30In my opinion, it depends on how hard the government is trying

00:42to bring about such reforms in the judiciary,

00:45and I'm saying that in quotation marks.

00:47In inverted commas, right?

00:48Yes, in inverted commas.

00:51But this is not just a government effort.

00:53This is a combined effort.

00:55Because this is a combined requirement,

00:58a combined demand.

01:00It has become a combined need.

01:02Correct.

01:03And when it has become a combined need,

01:05it has become even more intense.

01:08So, in my opinion, whatever this team effort that we see,

01:13whatever they can do,

01:15or whatever is in their control,

01:17or whatever way they can exert pressure,

01:21political pressure, or parliamentary pressure,

01:24or anything else,

01:26or government pressure,

01:28that will be exerted.

01:30And I personally won't be surprised

01:33if somehow or the other,

01:35they achieve two-thirds of the numbers.

01:38I won't be surprised.

01:41Yes.

01:42Otherwise, the other situation is that,

01:44just like PTI did an effort,

01:46that was also a combined effort,

01:48that this man, FIJ,

01:50he doesn't want to be the next Chief Justice.

01:52He jumped into it, and then failed.

01:54Then he backfired.

01:55And then later, he had issues.

01:58So, this kind of action replay can also happen with Noon League, right?

02:02If they don't succeed.

02:04Look, in my opinion,

02:05Waseem bhai, look,

02:07it depends on, actually,

02:09the first thing is to get the numbers.

02:11Yes.

02:12The second thing is what to do with those numbers.

02:15Yes.

02:16So, to get the numbers,

02:18because there is not a big gap,

02:20and from Maulana Sahib,

02:22I can hear that there are very good meetings.

02:25So, like I was saying,

02:27if they get those numbers,

02:28then I won't be surprised.

02:29Okay.

02:30The bigger issue is,

02:31with those numbers,

02:32what kind of reforms do they bring?

02:34Will they be in such a way,

02:35in which there will be a commotion about Adhliya?

02:38Or will they keep some soft issues in front,

02:42so that the snake dies,

02:43and the stick doesn't break?

02:45So, in my opinion,

02:47it will depend more on how radically

02:51they want to change the complexion

02:53of the Supreme Judiciary.

02:56Mir sahib, I don't think that

02:57if they get the numbers,

02:58then they will increase the number of judges,

03:01based on the reasons you mentioned.

03:03In fact, they will expand the retirement date,

03:06and then it will be said,

03:07when we ask,

03:08Sir, you have said it a hundred times,

03:10that you are not giving an extension to Qazi Sahib.

03:11So, the answer will be,

03:12Bhaijaan, this is not an extension.

03:13The extension is that,

03:14Bhaijaan sahib, you were retiring this way,

03:15now you won't be,

03:16now you will retire after 30 years.

03:17This is because,

03:18there is a backlog of cases,

03:19so every judge's retirement age has been increased.

03:22This applies to everyone,

03:23to the entire judiciary.

03:24So, they have not given an extension to Qazi sahib.

03:26They have brought reforms.

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