"Negotiation Kamiyab Na Hoye Tu Civil Na Farmani Ki Tarf Jaynge", Sahibzada Hamid Raza

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00:00The announcement of civil disobedience in this regard, was it discussed in the core committee with full deliberation?

00:06Did you talk to him? Did you know that such an announcement could be made?

00:13Or was it a one-off announcement? Because I think many people know that it came from Mr. Khan's tweet.

00:20Thank you very much.

00:22Look, it was not discussed in detail.

00:27There were some parliamentarians, some family members, some party members, who met Mr. Khan.

00:39So, this thing came out and came to us about civil disobedience.

00:44And look at it now, because Mr. Khan has already made a discussion committee, what is the situation ahead?

00:51So, you are a very close ally.

00:54So, how did you find out? Did you find out before the announcement?

00:58Or did you also realize after seeing the tweet that Mr. Khan has announced it?

01:03No, we obviously found out through the tweet.

01:06We did not find out through the tweet.

01:08Whatever Mr. Khan's communication is, it is conveyed to the political committee.

01:13And obviously, it is informed before any tweet or any press release.

01:19So, it came to our knowledge before the tweet or before it came to the media.

01:24Right. And has its content also been conveyed to you clearly?

01:28Or will it develop as we go?

01:31Is your party's Hikmat-e-Amli ready in terms of civil disobedience?

01:37Yes, the entire Hikmat-e-Amli is ready.

01:39Obviously, Mr. Khan has given one thing.

01:41Some points have also come with it.

01:43The political committee has its own recommendations.

01:46The other people have their own recommendations.

01:48So, it is being worked on.

01:49God willing, when we bring it, we will bring a comprehensive thing.

01:52And how effective will it be?

01:54Because Mr. Tariq-e-Insaab has already made this attempt in 2014.

01:57At that time, there were no positive results.

01:59Do you think that the results of civil disobedience will be different from 2014?

02:10Yes, I think that if the situation reaches there and the negotiations do not succeed,

02:15then this time it will be more effective.

02:17Look, it has two or three ground realities.

02:20We are in politics.

02:21The job of a politician is to analyze things.

02:23And after that, you have to develop your opinion on it.

02:27The circumstances on the ground of 2014 were totally different.

02:31Today, it is totally different.

02:32Secondly, you are aware that from the last two and a half years,

02:36from the time of Operation Regime Change to today,

02:38the acceptance of Pakistan's Mr. Tariq-e-Insaab and Mr. Imran Khan

02:42who are overseas Pakistanis, who are outside of Pakistan,

02:45is unmatchable at the moment.

02:47And it is obvious that it will have an impact.

02:49But in that, all of a sudden, all the steps will not be taken together.

02:55There will be different phases.

02:58And my opinion is that yes, it will be really successful this time.

03:02So, it will be incremental.

03:03It will mean that remittances will not be sent from outside the country.

03:07Is this the starting point?

03:10Yes, there are different segments in it.

03:14After that, we will move forward.

03:16Okay.

03:17And one point of view is that by doing this,

03:19if money does not come from the legal channels of Pakistan,

03:22then this is bad for the Pakistani economy.

03:24And whatever the economy is, whoever comes to power,

03:28he has taken over the economy.

03:30For example, if you also come to power as a result of this movement,

03:33then this may not be suitable for the national treasure.

03:38So, how do you engage this point of view?

03:41The national treasure is important when the nation is alive,

03:46the rights of the nation are available,

03:48democracy is present in the country,

03:50whatever is being done at the moment.

03:52You tell me, the way civilian rights have been suspended,

03:56the way the current government is crossing all limits of cruelty and corruption,

04:02the way the sanctity of four walls is being violated,

04:06the way our democratic rights have been deprived of,

04:10if you think that there will be an economic boost in Pakistan,

04:15then it will not come to an end.

04:17If we do not get a single installment in front of you,

04:19then we reach the default.

04:21If a single installment of $ 3 billion is not released,

04:24then we reach the level of forgiveness and intercession.

04:27So, just imagine, how much damage can be done from here as well.

04:33So, there is nothing, I mean,

04:34the government does not have to worry much,

04:36they have already received money from the IMF,

04:38they have to take it from the Pakistanis,

04:40they have to spend it on their own,

04:43Pakistan has never been a priority of the current government,

04:46nor has the people of Pakistan been a priority.

04:48You are talking about the IMF,

04:49this is absolutely right,

04:50because the IMF also has to ensure that the money comes from the banking channels,

04:54because whatever conditions they have,

04:56they want that this is also an important factor in bringing about economic recovery,

05:00that all the money comes from the banking channels,

05:03in a transparent manner.

05:04When you announce this,

05:06don't you think that this IMF program will be affected to some extent?

05:10Because when you wrote a letter earlier,

05:12there was a reaction to that as well.

05:14So, have you thought this through?

05:15This is what I want to ask.

05:21Let me tell you one thing,

05:23we have a political enemy,

05:25or we don't know,

05:27we want to harm the government of Pakistan,

05:29there is no such thing,

05:31but the current government has to decide

05:34whether to give us the democratic rights that Pakistan gives us or not.

05:39You cannot do this,

05:41that you give my house,

05:43Chadar and Chardewari,

05:45you cannot do this,

05:47that you give my house,

05:49Chadar and Chardewari,

05:51you should also cut off the limits of Chadar and Chardewari,

05:54you should also cut off my financial resources,

05:57you should also put my family members in jail,

06:01you should also deprive me of democratic rights of protest,

06:04even if I want to remain peaceful,

06:06I should not be allowed to remain peaceful,

06:08and then you say that you have accepted this dictation,

06:11then I will not do it.

06:12Whatever you can do, do it.

06:14The government can do it, so do it.

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