Waseem Badami's analysis on PTI's 24th Nov Protest

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00:00We need to see this government.

00:02We need a softer touch.

00:03But now let's come to the 24th.

00:04Wasim, on the 25th.

00:06There is a protest on the 24th.

00:07Whatever the protest looks like.

00:09On the 25th.

00:10Now I want to go through each and every question.

00:12Give me a brief answer so that I can know

00:15whether there will be a deal or not.

00:17How long will Mr. Khan be in jail?

00:19What situation do you see on the 25th?

00:21Life as usual or will something change?

00:24Your guess is as good as mine.

00:29We'll have to see.

00:30It's a matter of guesswork.

00:31I feel that on the 24th, this matter will be...

00:33Yes, okay.

00:34So on the 24th, there will be a scene

00:36where the city is moving,

00:37a container is being lifted,

00:38tears are being shed here,

00:39slogans are being raised here.

00:41And I feel that by the time this episode is done,

00:43by the night of the 25th,

00:45so many will be arrested,

00:47so many will be chased away,

00:48so many will be killed.

00:51And if this happens,

00:53then it will be more difficult for the PTI

00:55because you have called this a final call.

00:57If that is also not proved fruitful,

00:59then after 25 days or a month and a half,

01:01it will be a little more difficult.

01:03It puts you back.

01:04I have a second question, Wasim.

01:05I want you to answer a total of two or three questions.

01:07What does circumstantial evidence tell you

01:09about the negotiations?

01:10Were there any negotiations or not?

01:15Only to the extent, I think,

01:17that for now, you give the date ahead.

01:20Let's open the way for negotiations.

01:22Then what to talk about, what to decide,

01:24when to do it, how to do it, we will see later.

01:26For now, let's move ahead with the date.

01:28At least, let's open the way for negotiations.

01:30There were negotiations on the basis of negotiations,

01:32according to my information and analysis.

01:35Mr. Zubair, were there negotiations?

01:37Who do you think is right?

01:38Mr. Imran Khan said,

01:39I was told to do this, do that.

01:40Mr. Mohsin Nagvi says,

01:41there were no negotiations.

01:44No, there were negotiations.

01:46Now, it is obvious,

01:47who was on the advanced stage,

01:49or what was his intention.

01:51First of all, Faisal Wada,

01:52I think, he has the internal information.

01:55And you know,

01:56he is authentic,

01:58because he represents where he comes from.

02:00According to him,

02:01there was a negotiation.

02:03You and Wasim Adami,

02:04I don't know what the role is.

02:05Yesterday also, I was watching

02:06Wasim Adami's clip.

02:08Who does he represent?

02:09He is a senator of Pakistan.

02:10He is a politician.

02:11And he is free.

02:12He is free.

02:15No, he talks like this.

02:17What he said today also,

02:18he said,

02:19both are useless.

02:20PTI is also useless.

02:21Government is also useless.

02:22And the competition is,

02:23who is more useless.

02:24But he confirmed later,

02:25while talking to ARY.

02:27Yes, yes.

02:28He said,

02:29negotiations are going on.

02:30But he said,

02:31government is negotiating.

02:32Government is negotiating.

02:34Look,

02:35Wasim,

02:36sorry, Kashif,

02:37Yesterday,

02:38I had a very good talk

02:39with Asad Kaisar,

02:40Mr. Zubair.

02:41I said,

02:42who are you talking to?

02:43He said,

02:44we are talking to the government.

02:45I asked him a question.

02:46He said,

02:47we are talking to the government.

02:48For us,

02:49he is also the government.

02:50So,

02:51you also consider him

02:52as the government.

02:53But,

02:54he must be the guarantor.

02:55He must be the guarantor.

02:56Right.

02:57See,

02:58always,

02:59in Pakistan,

03:00the political leaders

03:01who are locked inside

03:02and start talking,

03:03then either

03:04the establishment

03:05is the guarantor

03:06or a big leader

03:07from outside,

03:08from Arab countries

03:09or from America

03:10is the guarantor.

03:11Because,

03:12no one believes

03:13in the government of the time.

03:14No one will accept

03:15what he says.

03:16So,

03:17we need to bring

03:18guarantees.

03:19But,

03:20in the front end,

03:21the conversations

03:22or the messages

03:23that were going on,

03:24Mr. Gandapur was not going

03:25there for no reason.

03:26What was he going to do?

03:27He was meeting for two hours.

03:28And for two days,

03:29the doors of the Adyala

03:30were open.

03:31You know,

03:32when the doors of the Adyala

03:33are closed once,

03:34then it doesn't open

03:35until the permission is given.

03:36Exactly.

03:37Kashif sir,

03:38can I make a comment?

03:39Quickly sir.

03:40A small one.

03:41Yes.

03:42The students

03:43and the degrees

03:44that I talked about,

03:45see,

03:46the incident

03:47that took place

03:48in London

03:49against Qazi Faizi

03:50which I am against

03:51that it should not be

03:52done like this.

03:53Climbing on cars

03:54and swearing,

03:55sending curses

03:56and doing all this.

03:57But,

03:58having said that,

03:59he didn't break

04:00the UK law.

04:01Sitting here,

04:02you revoked

04:03his passport

04:04and ID card.

04:05I mean,

04:06from where

04:07you are going,

04:08you are not

04:09breaking the law

04:10of that country.

04:11Sir,

04:12if the judge

04:13who is now

04:14the Prime Minister

04:15of India,

04:16if one of them

04:17goes,

04:18if there is

04:19a protest like this

04:20with them,

04:21and if something

04:22happens,

04:23I want to see

04:24whether they

04:25will cancel

04:26their degrees

04:27or not.

04:28You know,

04:29these are political

04:30decisions.

04:31As I said,

04:32they have it in their

04:33hands.

04:34What to do?

04:35They have

04:36so much power

04:37that they want

04:38to now decide

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