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Frank Walks Episode 30: Greg Oden Presented by BODYARMOR
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11/15/2024
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Gray Godin, perhaps the last true dominant big man drafted number one overall in an NBA
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draft.
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He led Ohio State to a national championship game appearance in 2007 before being selected
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number one overall by the Portland Trail Blazers.
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However, before playing his first game, knee injuries caused him to miss his rookie season.
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And injuries would plague him his entire NBA career, along with Brandon Roy.
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He is one of the biggest what-ifs could the Trail Blazers have been a generational team?
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We'll never know.
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But today I'm walking with Gray Godin, seeing what he's up to today, talking about his career,
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as well as talking about the game today and this upcoming NCAA season and big man's role
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in current basketball.
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Let's take a walk.
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Well, first off, I'm inspired by that, so I'm happy to be on this walk with you, honestly.
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I'm glad to hear that.
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It really doesn't surprise me how many people are just like, just inspired.
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I'm inspired.
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I had this one guy, Don, who was like fighting cancer, and he's out there walking.
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We had a guy that was a heart failure, I always blink on his name, Aaron, yeah.
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And then we got Dan.
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He's another guy that's had a lot of health issues, cancers and all.
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So if I can help anyone, it's been terrific.
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You know, what's funny is my uncle is a big guy, but he's like 6'4", and he was about
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a good 450 pounds, and he used to come and try to guard me in the post, and that was
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back at my strong days, and I just used to throw him around like it was nothing.
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Oh, jeez.
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You're originally from here?
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I'm from, well, yeah, I've lived in New Jersey, in New York, New Jersey most of my life.
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So that's why you're a Mets fan.
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Yep.
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I got you.
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So you've been hurting for a while.
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You guys got a good one last night, though, right?
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Yeah.
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Wasn't it last night?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it's been an incredible run.
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Yes, sir.
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I'm happy to see it.
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Incredible run.
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Tell Greg that he got high, but he doesn't know your award.
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Oh, yeah, well, basically, I got discovered by Barstool, I was trying to get out to opening
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day in 2017, and the New Jersey transit system failed, which it does almost every other day.
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I mean, New Jersey transit, they work on every day except days that end in Y.
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That's funny.
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I like that.
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But yep, I've been full-time Barstool four years, and it's been fun, and this year's
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been probably the greatest year because I started doing these Frank Walk series, and
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it's been a lot of fun learning and meeting a lot of great people, and I'm glad that you're
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coming along for this walk.
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Well, thank you.
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I'm happy to be here for the walk, you know, being here in New York, it brings back a lot
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of memories for me, specifically, you know, the draft, and coaching a little bit, always
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come here.
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When I was coaching with Butler, you know, the Big East Tournament was here, so.
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Oh, the Big East Tournament.
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I think of all the conference tournaments, just because he's at the Garden, I think it's
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the best one.
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Yes, sir.
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Yes, sir.
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To me, Madison Square Garden is basketball.
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It really is just truly basketball.
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I will go against you on that one because I am from Indiana, so, you know, we bleed basketball.
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You're born with a basketball in your hand, so, but, you know, I was born here, too.
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I respect it.
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I respect Madison Square Garden, the Knicks, the Nets, you know, basketball's here.
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Now, I heard that you're on one of the greatest AAU teams of all time.
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Yes, sir.
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Mike Conley, Mark Titus?
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Mark Titus.
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I love that that's the second name, but yes, Mark was on that team.
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We had Josh McRoberts, we had Daquan Cook, Curtis White, Reese Cheatham, Devin Williams.
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We had a really good squad, and obviously, we were led by Mike Conley, so inherently,
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we were good in that sense.
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I mean, Mike Conley was a great point guard, always a great playmaker.
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That's why I like the old dynamic, the point guard and the big man.
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You don't see that too much anymore in the league.
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The league has changed so much with the three-point shooters and everyone away from the ball and
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not under the hoop anymore.
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I mean, where have all the big men gone?
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Well, I just think the players in general have changed, you know.
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You got guys who are seven feet that can handle the ball and shoot the three.
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You got guys who are 6'5", that got better postgame than a lot of 6'10'' guys, and you
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know, the game is kind of to a point where it's a little bit fast-paced.
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You know, you're getting guards moving, you're getting bigs handling the ball, and you're
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also defensive-wise, you want to switch one through five, so I think the reason why it's
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not just a big and a little, because you want guys who can guard multiple positions.
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Because I look at someone like Karl-Anthony Towns, he wants to put up the three-pointers
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more than he wants to be under the hoop.
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Well, three is more than two, so it makes sense.
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But I will say, you know, a lot of these guys do settle a little bit more than I would like
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for them to, just because I'm the old-school big man, you know, back to the basket.
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Two dribbles, I'm going to dunk on you, stop me.
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But, you know, when you've got those skilled guys who, I say, you know, they're not a hybrid
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big or the new big, they're just a really good basketball player, you know, at that size.
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Now, I remember the 2007 season, the Final Four, I actually won an office poll that year,
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thank you.
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Well, that means you voted for Florida then, so that kind of hurt, you voted against us.
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Well, I actually got all four right, so.
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Oh, okay, I'll take that, I'll take that.
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I got all four right and the championship, I got everything right.
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Four right, the championship game right, and I did pick Florida.
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I was about to say, so you did pick Florida.
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Yeah, but, well, that was unusual of you, that was the first year of the BCS, and Florida
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also played Ohio State that year, too, and football was the first time that ever happened.
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I know, we were two-time losers, one in the football national championship, one in the
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basketball national championship, but I wouldn't change that year for anything, you know, all
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those players, just that university, the energy of that university that year was just amazing,
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and I'm happy to be a part of it and happy to be a part of Buckeye Nation for the rest
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of my life.
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I guess you went back to Ohio State recently and finished your degree.
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I did, so I actually graduated with my master's in August from The Ohio State University.
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It's been, let's see, 17 years coming, but I got there.
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I'm just so thankful to that university and the programs that let me get back there, and
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also my family for sticking with me while I took all the time I possibly can to finish
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all my homework to get these degrees.
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Well, you had an adventure in between.
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You played in Portland, you played in Miami with LeBron, you went to China.
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I was a little busy, but I was blessed, to be honest with you.
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Basketball has taken me all over the world, but I know getting my education is something
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that I'm going to need for the rest of my life, and it's going to serve me well.
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Now, you were the number one overall pick just ahead of Kevin Durant.
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Yes, sir.
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And now, you and Brandon Roy to me are the biggest what-ifs.
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If the two of you were to manage to just stay healthy your whole careers, how many championships
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do you think you could have brought to Portland?
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I'm going to answer with, I don't know.
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No, I'm kidding.
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I mean, it's hard to say.
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As you said, it was a big time what-if.
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I know we had a chance.
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We had the building blocks to build something special.
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As you can see, our record when we actually played was pretty decent, if I must say so
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myself.
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It's just the injuries happened so much and so often that we never really got the chance
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to be exactly what we all thought we could possibly be.
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Never going to forget LaMarcus Albridge and that group.
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It was a great team, Coach Nate McMillan.
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As you said, it was a big what-if.
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Now, you spent one year in Miami with LeBron on that team.
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Yeah.
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What was that like?
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That team was freaking amazing.
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I love it.
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I was able to see some of the top-tier coaching, some of the top-tier players, some of the
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top-tier people in life with that one-year experience in Miami.
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I think what people didn't realize at the time is, yeah, obviously you have LeBron and
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the Super Team is just what a great coach our exposure is.
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Yes, sir.
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Yes, sir.
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That's one of the biggest things I took away.
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How he was able to manage those personalities, all those stars, and still get the best out
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of all of us.
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I just appreciate him and that staff and that organization for everything they've done.
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We were this close to them getting that third championship in a row and me getting my first
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one.
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I would love for that to be a part of my story, but getting the chance to play for the finals
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was just an awesome experience and something that I'll always remember.
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You went to China for a year, too.
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What was that like?
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I was just trying to play.
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At that point, it was a couple of surgeries.
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I just knew my passion was still that I wanted to get out there on the court and show what
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I could do.
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Unfortunately, it didn't last long because my body told me that, yeah, it was time to
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call it quits.
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After your career's over, what have you been working on since?
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I've coached for Butler University for two seasons.
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For the past five years, I've been working with a company called Educor, who teach athletes
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and entertainers about financial literacy.
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We provide a FEMFIT, which is an audit of your own finances, which is basically education
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of your own personal finances.
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Just trying to motivate younger athletes, teach them to be better and make different
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decisions than I did.
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Through my experiences, while also working with a financial professional, it's a give
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and take.
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I appreciate doing that.
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I've been doing that for five years, and now I'm going to jump full force in that.
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As I mentioned, I got my degree, so I'm looking to do other things, like possibly getting
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in the GM realm, behind the scenes of a sports team.
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That would be nice.
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I think that is important.
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I think a lot of these players, they come from no money at all, then they get the big
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money.
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Anyone.
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It's human nature.
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Well, I would say, I actually would look into being a college GM as well.
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These teams are getting NIL money, and earlier than later, the colleges, they need people
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like that to help with that money that's being sent to these athletes now.
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Here it is.
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Madison Square Garden.
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Yes, sir.
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Right where you were drafted.
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Yes, sir.
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Well, is there anything else you'd like to add or tell anyone?
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No.
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Just coming here, there's always a lot of great memories.
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Being with the team, being in the league at that time, getting drafted was always a special
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memory for me.
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That moment changed my life.
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Being here in New York, I'm just thankful.
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I mean, I would have loved to have seen you be healthy.
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Me too.
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I'm sure everyone else would love to see that.
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I appreciate that.
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Actually, fun fact, I never actually got a chance to play in Madison Square Garden when
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I was in the NBA.
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I was always rehabbing.
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Being with the team, having those experiences, being able to actually be in the city with
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my teammates, it was awesome.
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I think we got a couple of wins in here, too, so I'll take that.
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Well, that's not good for us, that's not good for the Knicks.
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But you know, thanks.
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Thanks a lot.
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Frank, thank you.
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I'm just so happy to be able to be a part of this walk with you, sir.
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Good luck with your endeavors, with helping these players.
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I think the team would be very wise to hire you to either run the NIL or bring in a front
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office.
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You have the experience.
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You know, you've been around everywhere.
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And you give some good advice.
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I appreciate that, sir.
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Well, thanks for joining us.
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Thank you for having me, sir.
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And thanks.
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