Shopping Edge Rushers, Naming Names

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00:00And what is the expectation of Brad Holmes?

00:02We know they are calling.

00:03We know it is serious.

00:05Dan Campbell is vetting players.

00:07The Chiefs have a clear need at wide receiver,

00:09and they traded for DeAndre Hopkins.

00:11The deal is expected to be finalized today.

00:13ESPN says it's for a conditional fourth round pick.

00:17They're addressing their biggest need.

00:19They're the only undefeated team left in football.

00:21They're back-to-back Super Bowl champs.

00:23It feels like Detroit and Kansas City

00:25are on a collision course.

00:27They're doing what they need to do.

00:29Detroit, I do expect,

00:30will address their biggest need at edge.

00:33John, will it be a move bigger or smaller

00:35than DeAndre Hopkins to Kansas City?

00:40So DeAndre Hopkins will be impactful.

00:44Does he come in, is he their number one receiver?

00:47I mean, how old is DeAndre Hopkins?

00:49How much juice does he have left in the tank?

00:53And all of those things will go to answer

00:56how impactful, I mean, he's 32 years old,

00:59he's the same age as Zadarius Smith,

01:01who I would use as a comp.

01:03Day three pick to address the need.

01:05I don't think Hopkins, to your point,

01:07is DeAndre Hopkins of old,

01:09but it's a body that helps strengthen

01:11a clear, glaring weakness.

01:13So will they do more than Zadarius Smith?

01:17No, I think they'll go the Zadarius Smith type of player.

01:24I was about to say DeZarius, Zadarius.

01:29But I also don't think,

01:30so you're saying it's a conditional fourth?

01:32That's what the ESPN is saying, yes.

01:34All right, yeah, so if they win the Super Bowl,

01:35it probably pops up to a three,

01:37it stays four if they don't.

01:40I'm just guessing.

01:40It could be something like that, yeah.

01:41Yeah.

01:43And maybe that's the route that they go with Zadarius

01:46or somebody of ability to where,

01:51hey, we'll give you a fifth.

01:52I don't think they're gonna have to go fourth,

01:53but maybe it's a conditional fifth.

01:54Hey, if we win the Super Bowl, we'll give you a fourth.

01:57And Detroit has their fourth and fifth picks, yeah.

01:59And he has X number of snaps in that.

02:02He has to play and contribute and certain thresholds.

02:06Yeah, I wonder because I know the big names out there

02:08are much bigger than DeAndre Hopkins.

02:10I mean, Edge is such a premier position

02:12and the small percentage chance that is a Max Crosby

02:16or a Miles Garrett.

02:17But I think there are guys in between

02:20a Zadarius Smith and a Max Crosby.

02:23I think Harold Landry's a bigger move.

02:25Same team, Tennessee Titans, a bigger move

02:28than adding DeAndre Hopkins.

02:30It may be a more impactful move

02:33because he's gonna play more snaps.

02:34It costs more too.

02:35It's also, when you think of Terrell Williams,

02:37who is their D-line coach,

02:38he's very familiar with Harold Landry,

02:41having worked with him for the last few years.

02:45But it's not necessarily,

02:46it's not a one-for-one same position fill.

02:51You know, Harold Landry is not an Edge defender.

02:55He's a Sam linebacker who also rushes the passer.

02:59Now, some of the, we mentioned this yesterday,

03:02some of the added benefits is

03:05it could be really good for Jack Campbell

03:07to be able to watch and learn from a player

03:09that has reached his level

03:12to be able to mimic some of what he does,

03:15learn from how he approaches rushing from that position

03:19as a linebacker.

03:20Yeah, Aiden's 6'7", 270, right?

03:23And he played the run really well.

03:25Sets the edge.

03:26Yeah, Harold Landry grades out

03:27as one of the better Edge run defenders in football.

03:30And don't treat PFF as gospel, I understand.

03:33But they had graded him out as very strong against the run.

03:36He's not one of these like pure speed Edge guys,

03:40one way to get home.

03:42I mean, he's gotten to the quarterback

03:44double-digit times a year ago.

03:45He has multiple seasons with double-digit sacks.

03:47And it's not while giving up much against the run.

03:51I think on third down,

03:52he would be playing in a similar spot that Aiden is, right?

03:56On third and long especially.

03:58And I think that's where you're worried

03:59about missing Aiden the most.

04:01Is third down, get off the field, obvious passing downs.

04:05They need someone who can win one-on-one

04:07and Harold Landry wins one-on-one.

04:09To me, he's the bigger than Hopkins move

04:12that feels attainable.

04:14They're one in five.

04:14They just traded DeAndre Hopkins.

04:16I feel like if you're Detroit,

04:17that's a team that you can be calling on

04:19and expecting to get a deal done with

04:22if you're willing to pay.

04:23I go back to the other issue is,

04:26he is having this success.

04:28And I think he would be successful in any defense.

04:31They run not front.

04:33No fair.

04:34All right, so you get a nose

04:35and you get two head up tackles on your offensive tackle.

04:38So now all of a sudden,

04:39you have an offensive tackle that is setting out wider.

04:41He's passing up one to get to another.

04:44Whereas, if he's lining up with the Lions,

04:47it's not gonna be lining up with the same situation

04:50and the same setup.

04:50No, and I mean, not to geek out about it,

04:53and you're right,

04:53but Detroit has a lot of beef on the interior,

04:56their defensive line.

04:57And they can get creative with how they deploy them.

04:59I'm not proposing an entire shift change for one player.

05:02But John, they are relying on a lot of interior guys

05:04to occupy blocks.

05:05Can you kind of create a similar one-on-one situation

05:08for Landry when you have Reader and you have McNeil

05:10and you're gonna use-

05:11Onzerique.

05:12Yeah.

05:13You can, but I'm just saying it's not a one-for-one

05:18because he's coming from one system

05:20and will be plugged into a completely different one.

05:25Do they believe in their analysis of Harrell Landry?

05:28If that's the direction they go,

05:30that he can make that transition

05:32and be as effective in this defense,

05:35not just this year, but moving forward,

05:37as he has been in Tennessee's defense.

05:40So we'll take phone calls, 248-539-9797.

05:43We'll take a text.

05:44You see what Chiefs are doing?

05:46What do you want the Lions to do?

05:47And John, why don't-

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