Bani Tehreek Iinsaf Ka Jail Se Sakht Bayan Bazi Jari, Halat Ka Rukh Kis Taraf ?

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00:00I would like to start with Athar Kazmi. He is a common man of the party. He is a spokesperson of the party.

00:10He says that this is our stated policy and I have no objection to repeating it.

00:14We want to talk to the establishment as a party.

00:17He says that he is not disappointed. I will not say that the establishment does not want to talk to us.

00:21We have an engagement and this path will open up.

00:26The establishment is not responsible for the recent blockades.

00:32This is a matter of the administration. We will criticize the administration.

00:36PTI has told us their mood.

00:38Do you think the mood of the establishment will change?

00:41Is there a possibility in the near future or not?

00:44Badami sir, things change very quickly here.

00:49But the situation on the ground that we are seeing, I do not see a situation where there is a softness of the establishment in terms of justice.

01:01Or the establishment has expressed a desire to engage them at a level that results in a resolution.

01:10I do not see that happening right now.

01:14It is possible that some things have improved.

01:17There have been contacts on some levels.

01:19There are contacts in Peshawar. There are contacts in other places.

01:22No one can deny that.

01:24But for now, we have not reached the position where suddenly all the matters of Mr. Mian have begun to be resolved.

01:31I do not see such a situation right now.

01:33Stay away from it.

01:34And Hassan Ayub sir, I want to tell you quickly that the conversation that Mr. Imran Khan had today.

01:38Because my question is that can this be PTI's own desire?

01:42Is Mr. Khan also in this mood?

01:44Because right now, it is my opinion,

01:46right now, it is not even the time for PTI to take a step back from its statements, to be silent, so that the environment is made.

01:53For two or three days, Mr. Khan was silent.

01:55And he was expecting that perhaps the response will come from there so soon.

01:57It did not come.

01:58It did not come.

01:59Then he started firing.

02:00Now you see, the conversation that Mr. Khan is having today, I will discuss it quickly.

02:03He said that the decision on the Supreme Court of Pakistan's special session has made everything clear.

02:08The Chief Election Commissioner has said that he is not a side empire.

02:11In fact, he is the opener of his team.

02:14Then he took the name of Mr. Faisal and said that he is a different fighter.

02:18And all his actions are a clash of interests.

02:22Then he said that he wants to get a two-thirds majority.

02:26And the empires should get expansion.

02:28And then when he talked about expansion, only Qazi Faisal's circle increased.

02:35Before this, on Twitter, there was talk of Yaya Khan Part 2 and so on.

02:38Today, he also said about Qazi Faisal that now it has become clear that he is also with the opposition.

02:43And the nation has been frauded.

02:46He took the name of Qazi Faisal and said.

02:49And then he said many more things about Qazi Faisal that we will discuss further in your service.

02:54So, do you think, Mr. Hassan Ayub, that this environment of clashes,

02:59If Imran Khan Saaf Khan Saaf had any hope that the situation might improve,

03:05then he would have reduced the duration of his statements, right?

03:08Yes, you are absolutely right.

03:10I do not see a percentage of this possibility or hope.

03:14That somehow the atmosphere of tension at the moment can be reduced.

03:20If you look at the situation at the moment,

03:23So, according to my opinion, in the current situation,

03:26Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf has come to the forefront.

03:31They have taken control of their position.

03:34And they also know that the war here can escalate at any time.

03:38So, there can be an escalation in this matter.

03:41In this, no one is two steps behind.

03:44Whether you look at the establishment or Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.

03:47Now, who wins in this, who loses, time will prove this.

03:51But the difficulties of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,

03:54which have been going on for the past two to one and a half years,

03:57In the coming days, I see an increase in those difficulties.

04:02I do not see a shortage of incidents in this.

04:05If anyone can see it, then tell me too,

04:08in what extent should I see it, so that I can see it too.

04:10Okay, fine.

04:12Let's ask a man, if he can see it.

04:15By the way, he also said that he does not see anything like this in the near future.

04:19Mr. Hasnath, you go to the Supreme Court of Pakistan every day.

04:22Obviously, Mr. Hassan Ayub is also seen there often.

04:26But even sitting here from a distance, it is not difficult for us to analyze how much heat there is.

04:31Through letters and letters, they are making each other the target of criticism.

04:35They are being taunted, they are being accused.

04:37Someone is telling someone that you are cherry picking, running a one-man show.

04:40I will not sit in the committee with you.

04:42Someone says I will not sit on the bench with you.

04:44So, you have enough reasons to believe.

04:46You have enough reasons to believe that suppose the government accepts the amendment to the constitution.

04:50Suppose for a moment.

04:52Will the government still be able to achieve what it wants to achieve?

04:55Or will there still be a possibility that we think that the judges will sit in any case,

04:59and then the amendment to the constitution will be declared contradictory to the constitution,

05:03and then a new dispute will start.

05:07Look, there are a lot of difficulties for the judges.

05:10The biggest difficulty for the judges right now is their internal fight.

05:16And the way Chief Justice Kazi Faisal is acting these days,

05:22it seems that he has just started his challenge from a week ago.

05:30And the way he is acting in the hearing and in the case,

05:34it does not seem that he will retire after a month.

05:38And the way the government empowers him,

05:42there are a lot of difficulties for the other judges to do such a thing.

05:48Then there is no reaction from the outside.

05:51You give this credit to Law Minister Azam Zardar that this is the first time

05:55that this kind of legislation is taking place.

05:57The Supreme Court's internal working is being carried out through an ordinance.

06:02But there is silence from the outside.

06:06Please give me a clarification on this.

06:08Yesterday, a guide was telling me off the record,

06:10that if the government does not amend the constitution,

06:13then on 9th March, when Musharraf did what he did with Iftikhar Chaudhary,

06:17then the way the lawyers came out, the whole picture was reversed.

06:20This will happen.

06:21When Mr. Hassan Ayub is not able to stop his laughter on this,

06:24do you think this is very difficult?

06:26Will this not happen? Or is it possible, Mr. Hassan Ayub?

06:29Look, for now, the Supreme Court is under the control of the government.

06:33Okay.

07:03Mr. Hassan, these things seem familiar.

07:05We remember that Baba Rawan was also very famous.

07:08He approved some funds and went out.

07:10He is touring the Bar Councils.

07:12So, these things seem familiar.

07:15He was also successful.

07:17The People's Party had taken control of the Bar.

07:19But the media was with Mr. Iftikhar Chaudhary.

07:22And this time, we see that neither the media

07:25nor the judges are able to create that much momentum.

07:31And as far as the Constitutional Court is concerned,

07:33the People's Party and Maulana Ghazi Rahman

07:35are basically agreeing that there is no violation in the Constitutional Court.

07:39Now, these are all conditions.

07:41Let's see how the judges will resist these things.

07:45But it is also true that if such an incident happens,

07:50then things will not remain under the control of the government.

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