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PMLN Govt failed to make 'constitutional amendment' - Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain's Strong Reaction
" Is Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Pakistani Siyasat Ke Arshad Nadeem Banay Hue Hain, Hadar Naqvi
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PMLN Govt failed to make 'constitutional amendment' - Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain's Strong Reaction
" Is Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Pakistani Siyasat Ke Arshad Nadeem Banay Hue Hain, Hadar Naqvi
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00:00Asalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:07Today we are going to talk about a special story in Beirut, Lebanon.
00:13Pager, which is now being used in Pakistan, which used to send only text messages, has exploded.
00:22And on one occasion, I don't know, in hundreds of people, this is a very sophisticated action.
00:30We will talk in detail about who are behind this, which agency is behind this, and how skillfully this action has been done.
00:39And this is a great deed. And now the people of Beirut are accusing someone.
00:46It's a very interesting story. Stay tuned, we have more facts to share with you.
00:54But today, the first story is related to the past.
00:59The same story is being discussed in Pakistan at the moment.
01:04That is the 26th amendment.
01:07Was the constitution of the 26th amendment? It was not.
01:11Was it raw? It was cooked.
01:13Did the government prepare the constitution and share it with the parties?
01:19It was not.
01:20Various kinds of statements are coming.
01:22And especially from the government side, these statements are coming.
01:27Because of which it seems that the government itself is not sincere in implementing this amendment.
01:36They are going to make it worse.
01:38Yesterday it was said from the government that today Azam Nazeer Tariq Sahib will hold a full press conference.
01:45He will explain in detail about this amendment, why it is necessary, and what the government is doing on it,
01:53and what kind of homework we have done on it.
01:57Then today it was announced that the minister is not going to hold any such press conference.
02:02Yes, of course, he will definitely address the Bar Councils.
02:07And there he will tell his point of view in front of the Bar Councils.
02:11And through the Bar Councils, he will put his statements in front of the people.
02:16Now let's take you a little back.
02:20When the government decided that we are bringing this amendment,
02:25and they started leaking the news,
02:29that the government has all the preparations, they have a number game.
02:36The first story comes to us on September 9.
02:41And the story of Duniya Akhbar is in front of you.
02:44Two-thirds of the numbers have been completed.
02:47The claim of the government resources, the members of parliament, today Islamabad, Talab, this happened.
02:53After that, on September 12, a story is published in a war.
02:57A majority in the National Assembly, three votes less in the Senate.
03:01The claim of the government resources, this is also the news.
03:04After that comes the story of Nawaiwat on September 14.
03:10The numbers are complete.
03:12Today, the amendment will be brought.
03:14This is being told.
03:16And the rest, the whole matter is in front of you.
03:21See the news of Express.
03:23High Courts, judges' exchanges in the High Court.
03:28Retirement.
03:30At present, it has not been possible.
03:32But the amendment to the court.
03:34These five senior judges, one of them will be appointed as a judge.
03:41And all this news will start running.
03:43From the newspaper headlines, it is very clear.
03:46And that the government is fully prepared.
03:49And the preparation is not just for some common legislation.
03:52You have to amend the constitution.
03:54You are preparing for that.
03:56You have to complete the number of 224 in the National Assembly.
03:59You have to complete the number of 64 senators in the Senate.
04:04So you have done all this work.
04:06Here you have presented senators, MNAs in Islamabad.
04:11And there you fed, there you told people.
04:15If we can show this news.
04:17When the Prime Minister gave the initial instructions.
04:19In that, the Prime Minister told his MNAs.
04:23That our purpose is that we are going to make judicial reforms.
04:28Due to which cheap justice will be provided in the country.
04:32And not only will you get cheap justice.
04:34In fact, you will get the fastest justice.
04:36But what happens after that?
04:38What happens after that is that the draft is neither raw nor fixed.
04:43The story that has been opened at night.
04:46He is saying that we were given a raw draft.
04:49So these people who you fed cooked food.
04:53Whom you have been serving for two weeks.
04:55You had to keep a raw draft in front of them.
04:58I don't understand this.
04:59Listen to Mr. Bilawal Bhutto.
05:01Moulana Fazl Rehman's group came to that committee.
05:06The raw draft that is with the government.
05:10Moulana Fazl Rehman's input.
05:14If there was any more input on my group.
05:18Or if there was any input of the rest of the members of that committee.
05:22We sat in that.
05:24If we could get a consensus.
05:29Now I don't understand this.
05:31That the government is so prepared.
05:34They are on board with their allies.
05:38The President of Pakistan goes to Moulana Fazl Rehman's house.
05:43The Prime Minister goes to his house.
05:45The President of Pakistan is also the leader of the Pakistan People's Party.
05:49He has called the people of the party.
05:51He also served food to his people twice.
05:55He also briefed that what we are going to do.
05:57But this raw draft and fixed draft.
05:59Now this story is in front of us.
06:01Kamran Muttaza who is the senator of JIOF.
06:05He is still saying that we are being told.
06:08The government is saying that this is not a draft.
06:11We just came to talk to you.
06:13I will send you the details.
06:15Look, it is premature to talk about settlement.
06:19Till now the government itself is saying.
06:22That we don't have any official document.
06:24The draft that we have is a draft document.
06:27And it can be right or wrong.
06:30Now this stand is being taken by the government.
06:33And they are saying that our draft will be the one.
06:37Which the cabinet will approve.
06:40Now we can see that the government is hiding behind the procedure.
06:44That the draft will be approved by the cabinet.
06:48This is a very good thing.
06:50But Rana Sanawla also presented such an argument.
06:55That no, no, you know that.
06:57We already had 2-3 working papers with people.
07:00We had to take the opinion of our friends.
07:03And it was made a draft for no reason.
07:06It is not a draft.
07:08You are saying it is a working paper.
07:10The draft will be approved by the cabinet.
07:14Now it can be a working paper.
07:16And there are 2-3 working papers in this matter.
07:20First there was one.
07:22Then when we talked to Maulana.
07:24Then after some deletion.
07:27Another working paper was made.
07:29After that a final working paper was made.
07:32Which will be the face of the negotiations.
07:36When these negotiations will be completed.
07:40Viewers, the spokesperson of the government.
07:44Mr. Atta Tahir.
07:45He told us again today.
07:47He said that this was the negotiations.
07:49And the draftsmen who are sitting in the law ministry.
07:52He prepared it.
07:54And our law minister.
07:56Mr. Azam Ali Tahir.
07:58Under his guidance.
07:59All this work was done.
08:01All this preparation was done.
08:03The law minister's team prepared the drafts.
08:05There were talks about where the drafts came from.
08:07His team made it.
08:09A whole legal team.
08:10There are draftsmen in the law ministry.
08:12And they were updating together.
08:14Whatever the law minister issued.
08:16They were told that we have updated these things.
08:18And the drafts were given to them.
08:21Mr. Chaudhary.
08:22Whom should we listen to?
08:24It was a draft.
08:25It was not a draft.
08:27The draft was raw.
08:28The draft was fixed.
08:29It was a working paper.
08:31No, it was a draft.
08:32No, we sent three or four different recommendations.
08:36No, it was very well prepared.
08:38And the draftsmen were sitting.
08:40The whole team of the law minister was sitting.
08:42The law minister supervised it.
08:45Where is this all stuck, Mr. Chaudhary?
08:51No, it is stuck in this.
08:53That they did not have a majority.
08:56And secondly, they wanted to kill someone.
09:00A simple amendment which is for the welfare of the public.
09:05Which is in the interest of the country.
09:07If you read all the complaints in this draft.
09:12Then there is no possibility that it will have a role in the country.
09:16To end political instability in the country.
09:21And to put the country on the path of progress.
09:25These amendments.
09:26This is their self-serving.
09:30That they have stolen their eyes from the facts.
09:36They are doing this work by making the worst compromises.
09:41They had to protect that.
09:44And today, Maulana Fazlur Rahman, who is the president of the JUIF.
09:49He is the head.
09:50Whatever you call him, he is rich.
09:52He has announced that we have outrightly rejected the government's draft.
10:02Now what is left for them?
10:04You tell me, Mr. Khawar.
10:08Mr. Chaudhary, we will tell the viewers what Maulana Sahib said.
10:11Then we will take your comment on it.
10:13Okay, Mr. Naveed.
10:15Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib also told us last night.
10:19We felt that Maulana Sahib is on board.
10:22We have also shared our suggestions with him.
10:26We will also add something to it.
10:29After that, may Allah bless you.
10:31Because doing session calls.
10:33Calling on the weekend.
10:34Calling on Saturday and Sunday.
10:36It meant that the preparations were complete everywhere.
10:39And who has kept whom in the dark.
10:42This will be known in the coming days.
10:44But listen to what Bilawal Sahib is saying.
10:47The input of the Pakistan People's Party in the government's draft.
10:51It happened in this context.
10:54That we thought that Maulana Sahib is already on board.
10:57And the government is already on board.
10:59There was only time left to convince the Pakistan People's Party.
11:02In that process, we convinced the government.
11:07And we also agreed with the government.
11:12Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib had a lot of objections.
11:16There were some objections from the Pakistan People's Party.
11:20There were fewer objections from the People's Party.
11:24And Maulana Sahib had more.
11:26And Kamran Muttaza Sahib, who represents Maulana Sahib.
11:29He told us how many objections he had.
11:31And how many objections he had to cut with scissors.
11:34Originally, there were 56 clauses.
11:37Where the amendment was discussed.
11:42After that, gradually, the scissors were used.
11:45And some were cut, some were left.
11:47Then some were cut, then some were left.
11:49If these changes are made, then these 5-10 clauses will not be left.
11:55Nagbir Sahib, have you understood this story yet?
11:59Who is the villain in this story? Who is the hero?
12:03Who is misleading whom?
12:05Obviously, it was not like that.
12:07It was a story.
12:09Just like you said yesterday.
12:12There was a full-fledged effort.
12:16Everyone was called.
12:18As I told you yesterday, people were not even allowed to go to the bathroom.
12:22You have to sit and wait for our signal.
12:26Our Tahiyyat prisoners had also come from Lahore.
12:28They were also waiting to be called.
12:30You have the influence of the story.
12:33You are sitting outside.
12:35You spoke to someone.
12:37What have you done to the whole of Pakistan?
12:41Raw papad, cooked papad.
12:43Have you heard that?
12:45The kids used to play with it.
12:47Raw papad, cooked papad.
12:49May be.
12:51It is Rabindranath Tagore's blessed month.
12:53And in this month, there is a lot of respect for Haleem.
12:57All these people are roaming around with the recipe of Haleem.
13:02There is no amendment.
13:04I am afraid of this.
13:05Even if there is, it will be a small thing.
13:07But on your insistence, I agree that there is a constitutional amendment.
13:11Okay.
13:12You mean the media or whatever people say.
13:14It is the claim of the government.
13:15Not us.
13:16It is not our claim.
13:17The government itself is claiming.
13:18Yes.
13:19There is a constitutional amendment.
13:20Now let's talk on the basis of this constitutional amendment.
13:24Whether this constitutional amendment has to be passed or not.
13:28Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf is a stranger in the house.
13:33Why?
13:34Because if Maulana Sahib wants, the amendment will be passed.
13:37If Maulana Sahib and the government come to one page, the amendment will be passed.
13:41Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
13:46Therefore, one thing is that Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf is a stranger in the house.
13:52Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:22Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:25Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:28Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:31Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:34Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:37Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:40Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:43Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:46Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:49Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:52Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:55Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
14:58Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:01Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:04Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:07Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:10Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:13Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:16Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:19Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:22Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:25Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:28Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:31Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:34Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:37Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:40Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has no role in whether the amendment is passed or not.
15:43The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
15:46The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
15:49The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
15:52The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
15:55The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
15:58The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:01The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:04The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:07The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:10The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:13The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:16The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:19The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:22The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:25The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:28The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:31The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:34The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:37The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:40The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:43The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:46The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:49The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:52The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:55The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
16:58The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:01The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:04The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:07The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:10The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:13The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:16The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:19The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:22The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:25The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:28The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:31The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:34The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:37The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:40The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:43The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:46The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:49The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:52The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:55The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
17:58The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:01The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:04The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:07The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:10The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:13The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:16The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:19The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:22The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:25The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:28The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:31The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:34The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:37The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:40The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:43The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:46The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:49The government's initial proposal was to take reforms for the age group.
18:52The leader of Lebanese organization backs Fiddustah.
18:55The leader of Lebanese organization backs Fiddustah.
18:58As of now back Ford's plan has not been taken within.
19:01As of now back Ford's plan has not been taken within.
19:05SRPJ based a reportritist,
19:08SRPJ based a reportritist,
19:12on Fiddustah's plan to vanquish the national tool respect cut off
19:15on Fiddustah's plan to vanquish the national tool respect cut off
19:18by lawyers who try to finance the health policy
19:21The original draft of the Pakistan People's Party that we have prepared for implementing the Charter of Democracy by the Constitutional Court,
19:35we will put that in front of the JUI.
19:38The JUI is now working on its own draft.
19:42So if we can make a consensus document between our two drafts,
19:47then perhaps it will be easier for us to cross that two-thirds majority.
19:53But along with this, Kamran Murtaza from the JUI is also demanding that if you have an official document,
20:00then share it with the Bar Councils and get feedback from them.
20:05The actual official document should be brought forward.
20:09Let's sit and debate on that official document.
20:12We are not the only ones who want to debate on it.
20:14I want you to send it to the Bar Councils, to the Bar Associations,
20:20to publish it for the general public.
20:25Mr. Nagri, you have been circling us for the past two or three days, not sharing any news with us.
20:31Earlier, you said that there was no reform in the country,
20:35and that the situation was in the air.
20:38But after the fair in Islamabad, everyone came.
20:43Now you are saying that nothing will happen,
20:45you are just reciting the recipe of Haleem,
20:48and eventually nothing will happen.
20:50What is the news?
20:51Do you think that the People's Party,
20:53Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib came to our channel last night,
20:57he also went to a few other channels,
20:59he talked about what is going to happen,
21:01so when will this happen, how will it happen,
21:03or do you think that this was just like that,
21:06that we had to divert our attention from somewhere,
21:09or you are saying that we had to end the narrative of those who are in jail,
21:13so all this effort was made to end it.
21:15It is visible, isn't it?
21:17Look, first of all, let me say one thing,
21:19Maulana Sahib has become the Arshad Nadeem of Pakistan's politics these days.
21:23Everyone wants to take a picture with him,
21:25meet him, invite him to dinner,
21:27invite him to dinner, talk to him.
21:29So, what was happening with Arshad Nadeem the other day,
21:31the whole of Pakistan, big people were behind him.
21:34Anyway, look, what you said about Bilawal Bhutto Sahib,
21:36or about the constitutional amendment,
21:38now that all this has happened,
21:40you said that you called everyone,
21:42even called the National Assembly,
21:44and there is so much running around,
21:46now what will come out of this?
21:48Now, no major amendment will come out of this.
21:50Like they were talking about the age of 68,
21:52no such amendment will come out.
21:54They were talking about giving an extension to any official,
21:56no such amendment will come out.
21:58But many small legislations will come out,
22:00and this will be their face-saving
22:02that we had to make this amendment.
22:04Like Bilawal Sahib said,
22:06we will also keep our constitution,
22:08Maulana Sahib will also keep it,
22:10others will also keep it,
22:12and then we will move forward on the consensus.
22:14So, these will be small amendments,
22:16and it is the Parliament's job to make small amendments,
22:18to make laws,
22:20and in the same way,
22:22this will be their face-saving,
22:24and in the same way,
22:26it will be the Parliament's investigation,
22:28and it will be said again,
22:30that the amendment was passed,
22:32and this will be passed.
22:34And what you said about Adiala,
22:36it is absolutely right,
22:38the statements have been changed.
22:40Now, under PTI,
22:42the opposition leader who had the power,
22:44has left.
22:46Now, it is too late for that.
22:48Now, you cannot control this damage.
22:50And now, he will remain on the driving seat for a long time,
22:52until this amendment is implemented,
22:54until further opposition,
22:56you will see that Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
22:58will do even more opposition.
23:00Now, he will not only be limited to amendments,
23:02you will also see some statements from him,
23:04which will seem that he has become
23:06a very powerful opposition leader of Pakistan.
23:08So, under PTI,
23:10the opposition has left the ground.
23:12I am telling you based on my observation.
23:14Mr. Chaudhary,
23:16you are definitely not agreeing
23:18with this statement of yours.
23:20But, now...
23:22No, I agree 100%.
23:24Till now, the statements
23:26that all three of you have given,
23:28have been finished.
23:30Now, you are saying that
23:32there was no amendment.
23:34So, that day you were saying that
23:36I am going for a walk for an hour.
23:38After that, the amendment will come
23:40and it will be passed.
23:42So, why did you inform them?
23:44I said that milk will become milk and water will become water.
23:46No.
23:48Mr. Naqvi, leave this.
23:50You are happy with this.
23:52See how much Mr. Chaudhary follows you.
23:54I love him.
23:56Mr. Chaudhary, the basic question is
23:58that Mr. Naqvi is saying
24:00that there will be some small action
24:02and the big hopes...
24:04This is not mentioned in this.
24:06The main thing he said yesterday,
24:08Mr. Bulawal Bhutto,
24:10in the big interview of Waseem Badami,
24:12that Mansoor Ali Shah
24:14will be the Chief Justice
24:16and there is no doubt about it.
24:18You don't come out with that.
24:20But...
24:22Mr. Naqvi...
24:26Mr. Chaudhary,
24:28but you haven't heard it carefully.
24:30Our researcher, Mr. Sareesh,
24:32has heard it very carefully.
24:34He said that the Chief Justice
24:36is the Supreme Court.
24:38So, when the Supreme Court
24:40and the Constitutional Court get separated,
24:42then the Supreme Court will go up
24:44and the Supreme Court will go down.
24:46The government's plan
24:48that has come in front of us,
24:50this is what we have been discussing
24:52for the last 3-4 days.
24:54Okay, Mr. Chaudhary,
24:56I am going towards the break.
24:58Do you think that the government
25:00that has started this work,
25:02the government is still adamant
25:04that we will do something
25:06in the coming days?
25:08Because they hope that
25:10the Chief Justice will do something
25:12before that.
25:14Some adjustments will be made.
25:16Mr. Chaudhary...
25:18Let's see what adjustments
25:20they make.
25:22There are going to be
25:24very big adjustments with them.
25:26Just wait and see.
25:28Whatever I said the other day,
25:30you didn't register it.
25:32Whatever they have done so far,
25:34it is upside down.
25:36And what they are doing now,
25:38Mr. Chaudhary said yesterday
25:40that it is 6 o'clock.
25:42A lot has happened.
25:44I gave them the news.
25:46You are closer to them.
25:48You bring the news.
25:50Mr. Naqvi, please don't do this.
25:52After the break,
25:54the community is saying
25:56that there are
25:58two Supreme Courts
26:00being made in Pakistan.
26:02They are saying that
26:04we will not accept this.
26:06Welcome back, viewers.
26:08One opinion is that
26:10if a new
26:12federal constitution
26:14is made,
26:16which is a raw draft
26:18that we have seen so far,
26:20according to that,
26:22there will be a Chief Justice
26:24appointed by Mr. Prime Minister
26:26on his recommendation.
26:28He will appoint the President of Pakistan.
26:30He will take four judges
26:32from four provinces,
26:34and after that,
26:36a Constitutional Court will be made.
26:38And that Court
26:40will look at all the legal matters
26:42and especially
26:44any appeals
26:46that are in the Supreme Court
26:48will be transferred
26:50to that legal court.
26:52The rank of the legal court
26:54will be higher than that of the Supreme Court.
26:56Along with this,
26:58the Constitution of the Judicial Commission
27:00will be changed.
27:02The Supreme Judicial Council
27:04will be changed.
27:06So, there will be a lot of changes.
27:08Now, the local community,
27:10especially Mr. Hamid Khan,
27:12who is a PKI Cup Senator,
27:14but in the past,
27:16he has run a lot of campaigns
27:18and demonstrations
27:20for the freedom of justice.
27:22What is he saying?
27:24There is illegitimacy
27:26of this government
27:28which is the government of Form 47.
27:30The Federal Constitutional Court
27:32is only and only
27:34the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
27:36Without it,
27:38no Federal Constitutional Court
27:40can be made.
27:42After the appointment of every Chief Justice,
27:44the Supreme Court's senior judge
27:46will only be the Chief Justice.
27:48There will not be a panel of five judges.
27:50Mr. Suruli Shah,
27:52who will be the legitimate
27:54Chief Justice of Pakistan on October 26,
27:56apart from that,
27:58no one should look at that chair.
28:00On October 26,
28:02Justice Mansoor Ali Shah
28:04will be the Chief Justice of Pakistan
28:06and no one should look at that chair.
28:08Mr. Malik,
28:10another big name of Pakistan,
28:12who is a member of the
28:14Bukla community,
28:16he also has some intentions
28:18that in the coming days,
28:20this amendment which the government
28:22wants to bring,
28:24they are going to bring a petition
28:26I have
28:28right now,
28:30I have 16 signatures
28:32of retired
28:34Supreme Court judges
28:36who oppose this amendment.
28:38I have got
28:4016 signatures
28:42of former judges
28:44of the Superior Court,
28:46not the Supreme Court,
28:48who will reject this amendment.
28:50Who will reject this amendment?
29:20Who will reject this amendment?
29:50Why is the government
29:52trying to do this?
29:54They are trying to do this
29:56because it is not acceptable.
29:58They are destroying
30:00the structure of the constitution.
30:02The judiciary of the country
30:04which is present on Saturday,
30:06they are making changes in it.
30:08They have brought good people,
30:10who do not believe in looting,
30:12they want to follow the constitution
30:14and the law.
30:16At that time, no one objected,
30:18but now the time has come.
30:20That is why,
30:22they are going to America
30:24and they will start
30:26from a new start.
30:28At present,
30:30in 2-3 days,
30:32it is not visible.
30:34Mr. Naqvi,
30:36one opinion is that
30:38you have already increased
30:40the number of judges,
30:42increase it more.
30:44From this Supreme Court,
30:46make a bench of the constitution.
30:48Put the important issues in front of it.
30:50The senior most will look at it.
30:52Make a new court.
30:54It is being discussed
30:56that two Supreme Courts
30:58then how the matter will move forward.
31:00What do you think,
31:02who is the intention behind it?
31:04Because the other side is saying
31:06that the intention is not clear.
31:08Let's talk about the constitution court.
31:10Let's put this aside for a minute.
31:12Who benefits? Who is at loss?
31:14Who benefits? Who is at loss?
31:16Who is at loss?
31:18Let's put this aside for a minute.
31:20Let's talk about the people.
31:22You are aware of this.
31:24The whole of Pakistan is aware
31:26that in these courts,
31:28especially in the Supreme Court,
31:30how many cases are pending.
31:32People have been going around
31:34the courts for years.
31:36People's property has been sold.
31:38The grandson of the one who started
31:40is now coming for the hearing of the case.
31:42So you have to think for the people
31:44that for God's sake,
31:46keep these people's cases away.
31:48You have set up a set of constitutional cases
31:50on a daily basis
31:52from 9 am to 9 pm.
31:54Put it aside.
31:56This is what the mind believes,
31:58especially from the point of view of the people.
32:00The mind believes that all the cases
32:02of the Constitutional Court
32:04should be put aside.
32:06You listen to them at night,
32:08in the day, in the morning,
32:10as you wish.
32:12For God's sake,
32:14hurry up in listening to the public cases.
32:16Get the people out of this trouble.
32:18This is the best thing of the time.
32:20Viewers, what Mr. Naqvi said
32:22is especially the case of
32:24the Special Court.
32:26A clarification has been asked for it
32:28by the Election Commission.
32:30The eight-member bench has given
32:32an answer to the clarification.
32:34We have been seeing for the past three days
32:36that there is a meeting on a daily basis
32:38with the Election Commission.
32:40It is being said that
32:42there will be another meeting tomorrow.
32:44Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain,
32:46we are getting some news
32:48that the Election Commission
32:50is weighing up the options
32:52as to how things are moving forward.
32:54There was a desire,
32:56there was also a hope.
32:58In the draft House,
33:00there was an arrangement
33:02that the current members
33:04of the Election Commission
33:06will continue their work
33:08until a new member is found.
33:10They are also worried
33:12that their work could not be done.
33:14Do you think that
33:16the Election Commission
33:18will act upon the Supreme Court's
33:20decision?
33:22Some people think that
33:24they may do it,
33:26but there is no option left.
33:28But if you put forward the record
33:30of the Election Commission,
33:32then there is no hope
33:34Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain,
33:36you are absolutely right.
33:38This is the Punjabi saying,
33:40may God help us.
33:42Sometimes I think
33:44that this is not going to happen.
33:46There will be something else
33:48that they will not like.
33:50Let's go to the break.
33:52After the break,
33:54we will talk about
33:56a very big story
33:58that has developed
34:00in Beirut, Lebanon.
34:02Pagers started exploding
34:04at the same time.
34:06Why are these pagers exploding?
34:08Who is behind it?
34:10Who was the target?
34:12We will talk about it after the break.
34:18Welcome back.
34:20Before going to sleep last night,
34:22you were watching
34:24the developments
34:26of international media.
34:28This is a very interesting
34:30piece of news.
34:32As a headline,
34:34it was going on
34:36in all the big media houses
34:38in the world.
34:40Let's see the headlines
34:42of the big media houses.
34:44Hezbollah pagers
34:46exploded in apartment attack
34:48across Lebanon.
34:50Nine people killed
34:52and almost 2,800 injured
34:54countries, Health Ministry says.
34:56After that,
34:58Israel planted explosive
35:00in pagers sold to Hezbollah.
35:02Officials say small amounts
35:04of explosives were implanted
35:06in these beepers
35:08that Hezbollah had ordered
35:10from a Taiwanese company.
35:12According to American
35:14and other officials briefed
35:16on the operation.
35:18Reuters covered this story.
35:20Iran ambassador's pager exploded
35:22in Lebanon.
35:24He is said to have
35:26been severely injured.
35:28Israel conducted
35:30a non-pager attack
35:32fearing Hezbollah
35:34was on to the operation.
35:36Let me show you
35:38the story of New York Times.
35:40This is a Taiwanese company
35:42whose pagers
35:44have been used
35:46in Pakistan in the past.
35:48Basically, it is a device
35:50that only receives a message.
35:52It is not a telephone.
35:54It is a beeper.
35:56You can read everything
35:58inside it.
36:00The newspaper claims
36:02that Israelis
36:04planned all this.
36:06These pagers
36:08were transferred
36:10and sold there.
36:12Hezbollah bought them.
36:14According to the news,
36:16they use these pagers
36:18so that their location
36:20is not known.
36:22But,
36:24they converted
36:26these pagers
36:28and sold them.
36:30According to the news,
36:32Israelis used
36:34these pagers
36:36as explosive devices.
36:38According to the news,
36:40hundreds of pagers
36:42were used
36:44by Hezbollah.
36:46A text message
36:48was sent to these pagers.
36:50Explosive materials
36:52inside these pagers
36:54start exploding.
36:56All these pagers
36:58at one time
37:00start exploding.
37:02I think
37:04this is not a modern
37:06day sophisticated
37:08operation.
37:10There is a lot of debate
37:12about this.
37:14There is a lot of discussion
37:16in the world.
37:18I think
37:20there will be
37:22big movies
37:24on how this operation
37:26was done.
37:28After this news,
37:30I asked my
37:32researcher
37:34Zohaib
37:36whether this mobile
37:38is safe or not.
37:40You never know.
37:42You never know
37:44if you have to send a text
37:46message or
37:48send a message
37:50to the software
37:52inside your device.
37:54Yes, Nabi sahib.
37:56IP based
37:58tracking and action
38:00is common now.
38:02You are right
38:04about the sensitive
38:06installations of Pakistan.
38:08All the devices
38:10are imported from outside
38:12Pakistan, especially
38:14India.
38:16Pakistan has to
38:18pay attention to this.
38:20It is not necessary
38:22for Pakistan to have
38:24explicit tracking
38:26material
38:28that can
38:30keep you safe.
38:32Hezbollah,
38:34Lebanon and Israel
38:36are in a state of war.
38:38If you are in a state of war,
38:40you have to face
38:42the consequences.
38:44We have to
38:46revisit
38:48the installations
38:50of these devices
38:52and their configurations
38:54and install the chips.
38:56This is very important for Pakistan.
38:58We are showing you
39:00the footage of
39:02someone who is
39:04paying at a vegetable shop.
39:06He is busy
39:08with some other work.
39:10You can see
39:12the vegetables in his pocket.
39:14Someone is reading
39:16and holding a paper.
39:18Someone is driving a car.
39:20According to reports,
39:22the entire city of
39:24Beirut
39:26had to move
39:28ambulances
39:30due to an emergency.
39:32You can see this.
39:34This has happened in
39:36today's history.
39:38There is no doubt
39:40that the use of electronic devices
39:42is very easy.
39:44But the responsibility
39:46of the state
39:48and the institutions
39:50that monitor the security
39:52of Pakistan
39:54has to be taken into account.
39:56Hopefully,
39:58this will not happen
40:00in the future.
40:02This is a strange
40:04situation.
40:06This is what
40:08had happened.
40:10The next
40:12developments
40:14are that
40:16Beirut and Hezbollah
40:18are already under
40:20a lot of pressure
40:22to respond to Israel.
40:24You may remember
40:26the killing
40:28in Iran.
40:30This happened there
40:32and then here.
40:34Maybe
40:36this will be responded to.
40:38You are sitting outside
40:40and watching the international media.
40:42How do you feel
40:44that there will be
40:46a reaction in the future?
40:48Because the war
40:50against Israel
40:52is not stopping.
40:54There are new attacks
40:56every day.
40:58The US is repeatedly saying
41:00that Netanyahu,
41:02the Israeli Prime Minister,
41:04is being attacked.
41:06There is no doubt
41:08that Israel has advanced
41:10in war technology.
41:12Iran, Lebanon
41:14and other countries
41:16are far behind Israel.
41:18The killing you mentioned
41:20was an IP-based attack
41:22that was tracked
41:24and hit the target.
41:26You are talking about
41:28a response.
41:30Will there be a response
41:32or not?
41:34It is not easy.
41:36It is not a war
41:38between two countries.
41:40You engage the world
41:42in a war
41:44and the world's economic
41:46situation also engages
41:48with you,
41:50which leads to a disaster.
41:52May God protect us.
41:54This is our prayer.
41:56This is all for today.