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Kiya Supreme Court Kay Paas Ikhtiyar Hai kay Kisi Constitutional Amendment ko Rok Sakay? Expert Analysis
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9/16/2024
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Kiya Supreme Court Kay Paas Ikhtiyar Hai kay Kisi Constitutional Amendment ko Rok Sakay? Expert Analysis
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The biggest debate at this time is whether Parliament's matters can go to Supreme Court and Supreme Court's matters can go to Parliament or not.
00:06
What do legal experts say about this? We will talk about this.
00:09
Hafiz Hasan Ahmed is with us. He is a legal expert. Thank you very much for joining us.
00:13
It's a pleasure having you in the program.
00:15
Shahbaz Khosla is also with us. He is also a well-known lawyer. Thank you very much, Mr. Khosla. You have also joined us.
00:20
Mr. Khosla, let's start with you.
00:22
The matter of Supreme Court and the amendment in Parliament.
00:27
Parliament has the right to amend anything with a two-thirds majority.
00:32
Now that this has been delayed, the lawyer has taken it to the Supreme Court.
00:36
Can the Supreme Court stop any amendment or not?
00:40
First of all, I would like to congratulate you on your 24th anniversary, on independent reporting and on having an independent news channel.
00:49
Thank you very much.
00:50
And I would like to congratulate you on my behalf.
00:52
Anika, you are the daughter of a renowned lawyer. You have a law firm at home.
00:58
So you know the answer to this question very well.
01:01
But I would like to point out a few things for clarification.
01:05
Our constitution states that the judiciary will be completely independent under this constitution.
01:13
This is our grand norm. This is a fundamental pillar on which the state of Pakistan rests.
01:20
Similarly, there are many other laws on the independence of the judiciary.
01:26
Article 175B also applies to this.
01:30
So there have been many judgments.
01:32
The Al-Jihad Trust case and many other cases.
01:35
Only the judiciary, which includes the jurisdiction of the jurisdiction,
01:40
in which the government has a part in the appointment of judges,
01:45
those are the things that are in the hands of the government.
01:47
And even on them, the criticism of the press so far is that it should be completely independent from the legislative.
01:54
Now we come to the issue of the judiciary.
01:56
In Pakistan, the judiciary is not a part of the parliament.
02:03
I see many people saying that this is a misunderstanding.
02:10
The parliament is supreme.
02:12
In Pakistan, the constitution is supreme.
02:14
And the legislative work that the parliament has to do,
02:17
it has to be done within the constitution and the laws.
02:23
It is not possible that the constitution has a fundamental principle,
02:27
the separation of powers and the independence of the judiciary,
02:30
you can't make it a part of the constitution.
02:34
If a person with a small amount of money decides to commit a murder,
02:41
then shouldn't you tell the police that he has to carry a weapon,
02:47
he has to kill someone, he has to go for it.
02:51
Don't we have the power to stop this?
02:55
Mr. Shahbaz, this point is important.
02:57
Hold on over here.
02:59
You said that while being in the ambit of the constitution,
03:02
we can marry the law, we can't go beyond that.
03:05
I was talking about the pillars of the state a while ago.
03:07
There is a parliament and a judiciary in the pillars of the state.
03:11
If we go to the judiciary, who is supreme and who is not, that is the question.
03:18
Number one.
03:19
Number two, this is a question that can any constitution be amended by the parliament?
03:24
Can any kind of amendment regarding other states of the pillars be made or not?
03:29
Thirdly, there are many articles in the constitution regarding the supreme court,
03:36
article 175, 189, 190,
03:39
those must have been added at some point in time,
03:41
those must have been made at some point in time,
03:43
so how can this addition be ensured in the parameters of the constitution?
03:48
Bismillah hir rahman ir rahim.
03:49
Anika, one thing is very clear that wherever there is a parliamentary form of government
03:54
and you have a written constitution,
03:57
the legislative competency in that is of the parliament.
04:01
Secondly, the jurisdiction of the parliament,
04:05
who has to define that?
04:07
It has to be defined that if such an action comes,
04:10
if it is taken to a supreme court, a judicial review,
04:13
then the supreme court defines whether that action was the legislation of the parliament
04:18
and whether it is within the parameters of the law or not.
04:21
Thirdly, the point is that 25 constitutional amendments have been made in Pakistan
04:28
and there is not a single amendment that the parliament has passed
04:32
and the supreme court of Pakistan has called it an ultra-virus of the constitution.
04:36
Fourthly, in the developing countries of the world
04:40
and in the developed countries,
04:42
the jurisdiction is defined in two places in the same constitution.
04:46
It is also the supreme court and for constitutional matters,
04:49
it is also their constitutional court.
04:51
Those examples are in front of you,
04:53
Spain, Austria, Germany, South Africa are also in it
04:57
and it is in it that to the extent of jurisdiction,
05:00
the independence of the judiciary is guaranteed by the constitution.
05:04
The fifth thing in it is that if someone is giving the jurisdiction of Pakistan
05:09
and the same jurisdiction is not being taken back
05:11
and a forum is being created for it
05:13
and that forum is being done on the basis of all your political parties
05:19
who have signed a COD from 2006,
05:23
which includes PMLN, People's Party, GAI has also endorsed it,
05:27
after that PTI has also endorsed it,
05:30
then has the parliament reduced the rights of this constitutional jurisdiction
05:35
due to which the independence of the judiciary is being reduced?
05:38
That is one thing in it that the constitution is also in the same place,
05:41
only the jurisdiction has been taken from one place to another.
05:45
Now you are talking about 25 amendments,
05:48
on which the Supreme Court has not said anything,
05:50
but the problem is that this amendment is directly related to the Supreme Court,
05:54
so let's talk about it.
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