Pakistan mein school nah jane walay bachon ki tadaad 2 crore 62 laakh tak ja pohanchi. ..

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00:00If education was common in our country, there would have been no blind imitation of any political party.

00:05Whether it was PTI, PMLNO or Pakistan People's Party,

00:08everyone would have thought about which party has solved so many problems for the people after coming to power,

00:13and which party only goes to the opposition and makes noise.

00:16This could have been understood if education was common in the country.

00:20But the sad thing is that in Pakistan, more than 260 million children are out of schools.

00:27According to the report of the Zeli Institute of Education,

00:32in Punjab, 11 million, in Sindh, 76 million and in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, 36 million children are out of schools.

00:41In Balochistan, 31 million and in Islamabad, 80,000 children are deprived of going to school.

00:46In Balochistan, 39% of children are out of school.

00:51In Balochistan, 65% of children are deprived of going to school.

00:56Remember that Article 25A of the Constitution of Pakistan, the right to education,

01:02which provides free education to children aged 5 to 16 years, is the responsibility of the state.

01:10Where are we lacking? We are not able to provide education to our children.

01:14We will talk about this later.

01:16Mr. Mohiuddin Ahmed Wani is with us. He is the Secretary for Education.

01:19Thank you very much, Mr. Wani, for joining us.

01:21Mr. Wani, this issue has become a matter of the province after the 18th amendment.

01:28But the problem is that in our country, more than 260 million children are out of schools.

01:35Where are we lacking?

01:37Is there no coordination? Is there no competition in the provinces?

01:40Is there no will from us?

01:42Where are we going wrong?

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03:08Let me add one thing.

03:10You said that as the population increases,

03:12the infrastructure will decrease.

03:14That makes sense.

03:16But do we not have enough infrastructure?

03:18Or is there infrastructure

03:20and we are not able to properly manage it?

03:22Combination of both.

03:24There is infrastructure in many places

03:26and yet children are out of the system.

03:28Let me give you an example.

03:30In Gilgit-Baltistan,

03:32Chilas, Diyamir,

03:34there was population,

03:36children were out of school.

03:38We had an intervention called

03:40School for Wheels Program.

03:42The enrollment of children increased

03:44from 25% to 75% in many schools.

03:46This means that there was infrastructure

03:48but because of poverty

03:50and multiple other reasons,

03:52children were not returning to the system.

03:54We have to work on both.

03:56Where there is a shortage of infrastructure,

03:58we have to improve it.

04:00And where there is none,

04:02we have to encourage children to come to school.

04:04There are economic and health reasons.

04:06It's a combination of both.

04:08And when you talk about population,

04:10I didn't say that population grows naturally.

04:12But Pakistan is increasing

04:14in its region by the highest percentage.

04:16This figure of 26 million,

04:18compared to the last survey,

04:20percentage-wise,

04:22our out-of-school children have decreased.

04:24But because the population is very large,

04:26this number has increased.

04:28I understand what you are saying.

04:30For a long time,

04:32the government had no consideration.

04:34We ignored the issue of population.

04:36Now, for some time,

04:38we have started to hear about the situation

04:40of children with HIV.

04:42We had forgotten about our population.

04:44Former Chief Justice of Pakistan,

04:46Mr. Saqib Nisar,

04:48had conducted a kind of seminar.

04:50But a seminar does not end the population.

04:52What steps are we taking

04:54that are on-ground?

04:56Population, poverty,

04:58lack of education,

05:00lack of infrastructure.

05:02And where there is infrastructure,

05:04there are no farmers.

05:06There is a lack of support.

05:08What can the department do

05:10to address all these issues?

05:12The first thing the department

05:14has done is

05:16to bring this on the national agenda.

05:18The National Education Emergency

05:20has all the provinces on board.

05:22Together, they are making a strategy

05:24on how to improve the enrollment rate,

05:26how to stop dropouts.

05:28Firstly,

05:30there is a healthy competition

05:32between the provinces.

05:34Secondly,

05:36despite devolution,

05:38we are not interfering.

05:40But we have now started supporting

05:42the provincial governments.

05:44Where can we support them?

05:46We are going to that extent

05:48that we go to the scale side

05:50to save children from dropouts.

05:52NAVTEQ has done a massive rollout

05:54on that.

05:56We are supporting them

05:58in many interventions.

06:00So that especially children

06:02who are anemic,

06:04who have poor health,

06:06who are dropouts,

06:08they can be brought.

06:10I'll give you an example.

06:12In Gilgit-Baltistan,

06:14there is a 99% literacy rate in Hunza.

06:16There, the population has gone

06:18to the negative.

06:20In Chilas, where the literacy rate

06:22is 29% for boys and 9% for girls,

06:24the population is growing at 5%.

06:26So again, it's a chicken and egg.

06:28If you address the population

06:30with education,

06:32the more you educate people,

06:34the more population will be controlled.

06:36So it's not either or.

06:38We have to do both simultaneously.

06:40Thirdly, we have to prioritize

06:42the allocation of resources.

06:44Last year, the GDP was 1.5%,

06:46which was allocated for education.

06:48This year, it's 1.9%.

06:50Let me tell you about my ministry.

06:52Last year, I got 8 billion rupees

06:54for the development of education.

06:56This year, it's 25 billion rupees.

06:58So all the provinces will increase

07:00incrementally.

07:02And for the next 5 years,

07:04they have to come up to 4% of their GDP.

07:06Thank you very much.

07:08It was a pleasure having you.

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