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Lupita Nyong'o, Mark Hamill, Catherine O'Hara & the Cast of 'The Wild Robot' on Creating the Emotional Animated Film | Variety Studio at TIFF 2024
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9/8/2024
Voice actors Lupita Nyong'o, Mark Hamill, Catherine O'Hara, Stephanie Hsu & Kit Connor, along with director Chris Sanders discuss 'The Wild Robot' at the Variety Studio at TIFF.
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00:00
What would you say to people who are worried about just, like, ugly crying and the emotion they're going to feel when they see it?
00:05
Embrace it.
00:07
Crying is healthy. Crying is good.
00:10
It's cathartic.
00:20
Sometimes, to survive, we must become more than we were programmed to be.
00:29
Chris, I wanted to start with you.
00:31
How did you first come across this book?
00:33
And when you were reading it, did you picture it as a movie?
00:36
How did you know that it needed to be adopted in this format?
00:39
You know, I was just looking for my next gig, and I dropped into DreamWorks to see what was in development.
00:44
And they laid some things out on the table.
00:46
Amongst them was the book The Wild Robot.
00:49
And the briefest description of it let me know that that would be the right thing for me to do.
00:55
And so, as I read it, I immediately saw the imagery in my head and knew that it was the scale that we needed.
01:04
The scale was going to be huge.
01:06
And yeah, that's how it started.
01:09
And for the cast, how does your preparation differ for animation as opposed to live action?
01:15
And is there anything specific you do to get into character?
01:18
Lupita, if you want to start.
01:21
Well, I think animation is a much longer process, a much more sporadic process.
01:31
So, I think for me, the preparation was ongoing, kind of, with every iteration of the script.
01:40
And I found myself really relying on instinct and intuition in order to know what to do every time.
01:49
It's sort of like, hold on tightly, let go lightly.
01:53
Things are going to change and you just have to go with the flow, right?
01:59
I depended on Chris.
02:01
Chris directed every line I said.
02:04
And I really appreciate it.
02:06
Because, you know, you do prepare.
02:08
You prepare as much as you can.
02:10
But as you say, it's over a long period of time.
02:13
And you do prepare and you try to make the right decisions for your character.
02:18
But in every scene, Chris just made it, for me, funnier and more interesting.
02:25
Because Chris so knows what he wants.
02:28
It was lovely to be able to trust somebody.
02:31
Wonderful.
02:34
I suppose I would also say that because of the fact that it was such a long process,
02:39
you do find yourself sort of adjusting the character as well over time.
02:44
Sometimes Chris would say, maybe now Bright Bill wants to sound more like a robot or more like a goose.
02:53
So it's kind of like a slight adjustment in that sense.
02:58
I feel like one of my favorite aspects of animation and also this process is the symbiotic duration of time.
03:07
As you're finding the character, there's also a camera in the booth.
03:12
So the animators as well are kind of starting to adapt to the physicality that is naturally coming through you.
03:19
And there's kind of a marriage that starts to happen.
03:22
And then you get to see sketches for the first time and see how different characters are moving.
03:27
And that sort of informs how you want to deepen your character too.
03:31
That's one of my favorite parts of animation.
03:33
I read the book and I thought, if they can capture even a fraction of the appeal and the charm,
03:42
this is so wonderful an experience.
03:47
The ultimate fish-out-of-water story of this high-tech robot dropped into the wilderness.
03:53
But as you say, the director has everything in his mind.
03:58
You really have to rely on his vision.
04:01
And a lot of times you record together.
04:06
In this instance, I never met anybody until it was finished.
04:11
So each animated project is different.
04:16
And Stephanie, you kind of alluded to how your voice performances shape the characters.
04:22
But I'm wondering for all of you, do you feel like there are little ways in which you ended up influencing the character you played?
04:29
Maybe that wasn't on the page when you first read the script?
04:33
I think you can't help. It's all you have.
04:39
It's hard not to bring yourself into it, I think.
04:42
In my character's case, it was fun.
04:46
For me, anyway.
04:48
For me, when I was considering doing this project,
04:53
one of the questions I asked Chris was, why me?
04:57
And he spoke of what he appreciated about my voice.
05:04
And about the texture and dimensions that I could bring to the character.
05:11
At the end of Roz's arc, she sounds a lot more like me.
05:17
And so it was kind of like reverse engineering where she comes from before she has adapted to this island.
05:24
Before she's evolved into the more individualized being that she becomes.
05:31
And finding that as well.
05:33
So it was nice to search for myself in the character.
05:40
Did anyone else want to add?
05:43
Yeah, I suppose the youthfulness of it was...
05:46
I think I auditioned when I was maybe 17.
05:50
And I think that you can't help but put your own spin on it.
05:56
And I'd imagine what led to me getting chosen for it
06:04
was just the youthfulness and the awkwardness of the character.
06:10
It probably just came through.
06:14
You did it so well.
06:15
That's me.
06:17
Wonderful.
06:18
So endearing.
06:19
I was sorry I didn't get to work with Matt Berry.
06:22
Because I worked with him on What We Do in the Shadows.
06:24
And this guy is hilarious.
06:26
He does the lines, but then he adds improv.
06:30
Usually horribly obscene dialogue.
06:33
And you're meant to keep a straight face.
06:35
Because my character loathed him in the story.
06:38
But Mark Hamill finds him hilarious.
06:40
Although, I think it's too bad you didn't consider another actor.
06:46
Because it would have been so great to say,
06:48
and Jerry Mathers as the Beast.
06:51
Yeah.
06:52
But Matt's wonderful.
06:54
That's great.
06:55
Chris, you have such a long history in animation.
06:58
And I'm wondering how the medium has evolved over the years.
07:02
What have you noticed has changed?
07:05
I was really fortunate to start this whole thing
07:07
when it was much more traditional.
07:09
And everything was drawn by hand.
07:11
And then CG came along.
07:13
And we got so many more tools.
07:15
The least of which is the ability to move a camera in space.
07:17
This is something we couldn't do before in traditional.
07:19
And the emotional impact of that is huge.
07:24
But we lost touch with some things as well.
07:28
There's an analog warmth that you get from a hand-painted, hand-drawn thing.
07:32
That we were obligated to leave that behind.
07:37
And for quite a while now,
07:39
we've been doing our best to try to fake it.
07:41
But with this particular film,
07:43
DreamWorks had reached a point in their technology
07:46
that we could get away from wrapping geometry with textures
07:50
and go back to hand-painting.
07:52
So the technology allowed our artists to hand-paint things dimensionally.
07:58
And so underneath the characters, there's geometry.
08:02
But they are also coated and completely covered by hand-painted textures.
08:06
So every single thing in this is hand-painted.
08:10
And so we have now, I really think,
08:12
come full circle with this film.
08:15
And rejoined something that we left behind.
08:17
But we've kept all the wonderful things that we got with CG.
08:21
But now we got back to the analog warmth
08:24
that we used to have with films like Bambi.
08:26
So it's really a technological achievement
08:30
that allowed human beings to reconnect with everything.
08:34
Well, and that process is so meta for the movie too.
08:39
I feel like it's such a beautiful joining of nature and technology
08:43
and what is naturally available to us artistically.
08:46
And these shapes and the advancements in technology that we have.
08:50
That's what I love about the film so much.
08:52
It feels nostalgic as well as futuristic at the same time.
08:56
So I am not a parent myself, but I spoke to some parents
09:00
who are worried to see the movie
09:02
because they think they're going to be an emotional wreck when they see it.
09:06
So what would you say to people who are worried
09:08
about just like ugly crying and the emotion
09:10
they're going to feel when they see it?
09:12
Embrace it.
09:13
Crying is healthy. Crying is good.
09:16
It's cathartic.
09:20
What I love about it is its appeal is across the board.
09:25
As a father of three who took them to see
09:28
so-called children's movies as a kid.
09:31
And you'd suffer through some horrible moments.
09:35
I never would say to that because they were loving it.
09:38
And you want them to.
09:40
But this one effortlessly appeals to every age.
09:44
The parents will have as good a time as the kids.
09:48
And that's rare to hit that sweet spot.
09:51
And maybe bring a pack of tissues if you need that.
09:54
Tissues and gummy bears.
09:58
Gummy bears? Why not?
10:01
I'm thinking of a certain kind.
10:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:05
Mine was more innocent.
10:11
I've watched it only one time.
10:13
But it was heartwarming at the end of the day.
10:16
And that kind of cry is worth it.
10:19
And unlike so many children's films,
10:22
the soundtrack doesn't tell you what to feel.
10:26
You just feel it.
10:28
And also just bringing out children's compassion
10:32
is a lovely, beautiful thing.
10:36
Yeah, tolerance, understanding what you don't know.
10:41
Again, and it's not hitting you over the head.
10:43
You just glean that experience from what happens in the film.
10:49
It's really wonderful.
10:53
So if you had to be stranded on a deserted island
10:56
with another character that you've played,
10:59
who would it be and why?
11:01
Sharp turn.
11:05
I wanted to be the fox.
11:08
Any role that you've ever played.
11:10
That you've ever played.
11:12
Oh, I would want to be with Roz.
11:15
That sounds like a good show.
11:17
She could do a lot for me, including building a shelter.
11:19
That's true.
11:20
Which I can't do.
11:22
Okay, copy. Roz.
11:24
Yeah, never played Roz.
11:26
Character you've played.
11:28
We're doing that thing where you ask us a question,
11:30
but we're actors, so we're going to answer
11:32
a completely different question.
11:34
And we're all choosing Roz.
11:36
Right, we're staying on brand.
11:39
No one, come on.
11:41
Oh, God.
11:45
Stuck on a deserted island?
11:47
None of the characters I've ever played have skills like that.
11:51
But maybe they're a good time to be around.
11:55
A last hurrah before impending doom.
11:59
Yeah, yeah.
12:03
I don't know.
12:05
I played a young Elton John once,
12:07
so maybe Elton John on the island would be fun.
12:09
He'd just sort of, you know,
12:11
sing me into oblivion. That would be fun.
12:13
This movie, as you all mentioned,
12:15
does have a lot of heartwarming themes.
12:17
When you were making the movie,
12:19
and maybe even watching it for the first time,
12:21
were there any life lessons that you took away
12:23
that have stuck with you?
12:25
Go.
12:27
No, you.
12:29
Well, I think what I love about this story
12:31
is I, myself,
12:33
find, I don't know, technology
12:35
to be really scary
12:37
and overwhelming and sometimes
12:39
overly nostalgic of a time
12:41
that we're no longer in.
12:43
And I feel like the themes of this movie
12:45
and just following the character of Roz
12:47
in the wildness
12:49
is a really important
12:51
togetherness and symbiosis
12:53
of where we are,
12:55
how we are currently evolving
12:57
as a society.
12:59
And that, in itself, brings me
13:01
so much peace and comfort
13:03
to where we are currently at.
13:05
That it's not like a one or the other,
13:07
but maybe it's a together.
13:09
That's great.
13:11
I think the journey that Roz goes on
13:13
as this robot
13:15
that finds herself
13:17
with the task of being a mother
13:19
kind of illuminates the fact
13:21
that every parent
13:23
is doing it for the first time.
13:25
And there's a learning curve
13:27
that every parent is going through.
13:29
They're living their lives for the first time
13:31
and we see that projected
13:33
on Roz, who
13:35
has that sort of
13:37
naivete of a child
13:39
but
13:41
in the role of a parent
13:43
that we expect to know everything.
13:45
I just think it's a lovely story
13:47
that gives grace to what it means
13:49
to become a parent.
13:54
It's funny that you relate
13:56
to the robot
13:58
because
14:00
there's no one else to relate to.
14:02
You imagine, what if I was
14:04
dropped into
14:06
the wilderness?
14:08
It's curious
14:10
that of all the characters
14:12
she's the one that's most relatable
14:14
to me anyway.
14:16
How would I survive?
14:19
But
14:21
what do I know?
14:27
When we first
14:29
started the project, my first call was to
14:31
Peter Brown who wrote the book
14:33
and one of the things he
14:35
revealed to us was that while he was writing
14:37
the book, the thing that was guiding him
14:39
the guiding principle that was on his mind
14:41
was the idea that kindness could be
14:43
a survival skill. And it was something that was never
14:45
written down in the book and I immediately wrote that down
14:47
and said, I'm going to get that up on screen.
14:49
And so the heart and soul of this
14:51
story is about a character
14:53
who has this unrelenting
14:55
kindness and what that does
14:57
and without
14:59
Roz has no agenda to do
15:01
anything but complete a task
15:03
but in the completion of it, I think it
15:05
is that kindness and her willingness
15:07
to go off script
15:09
and to change her programming
15:11
that changes the culture of the entire
15:13
island. And I think that for me was the most
15:15
the lesson that I took away
15:17
from this whole thing that I still think about now
15:19
because we had this long journey together
15:21
but this whole story
15:23
is infused with the idea
15:25
that kindness is strength.
15:29
Well, thank you guys so much for being here.
15:31
It was great to have you at our studio.
15:33
Thank you very much.
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