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Elizabeth Olsen & Alicia Vikander on the Sci-Fi Fertility Story in 'The Assessment' | Variety Studio at TIFF 2024
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9/8/2024
Actors Elizabeth Olsen, Alicia Vikander & Hamish Patel, along with director Fleur Fortuné break down 'The Assessment' at the Variety Studio at TIFF.
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Making people feel uncomfortable. Yeah, really gratifying. Yeah, because we should all be uncomfortable
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So
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Before I wanted to start with you
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How did you come across this this project and what inspired you to want to direct the film?
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So I I think I was in the process myself where I was trying to have kids like for four years and
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I had to go through
00:45
IVF lots of tests and it was like to a point where he was kind of absurd and
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that's when I
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Stephen the producer sent me the script and
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And
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So what about like the idea of a future where you would test a couple for a week to decide if they?
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Can have a kid or not?
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And I think I felt pretty deeply into like all the steps of the characters. So
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That's that's how I came to into this
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and for the cast, can you can you talk a little bit about your own characters for people who haven't seen the film and
01:26
Just just what you what you responded to about the the roles that you're playing
01:33
Yeah, so so in this near future people need to
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Get assessed to get approval to have a child and I play the assessor
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who
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enter this couple's lives and
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When when I personally read the script the first time I had the feeling, you know
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that I was I was
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deeply intrigued from the get-go and I couldn't really stop reading and I was like what is gonna happen next and I
02:02
Guess then the character that I play also is
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You know very controlled
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But also to the point of unhinged at certain points and her methods
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And I guess that was like, you know
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It was it was it was definitely something that I knew I could do a lot with or play with that
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I was pretty like I told you the first time we zoom that I was super nervous
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About how like I don't know how to play this
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But that was definitely one of the things that drew me to the project. Yeah
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Who is the one partner of the marriage that's being assessed and
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Mesh you are I play Ari and who's the other?
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party yeah, I said see and
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And
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Yeah, I this this world is a is a space where there's a lot of control over
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how people choose to live in in order to
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survive longer
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and
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Flourish speaks really beautifully to the paradox of this strong desire and want and need
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To have a child and why and the questions that come up while also
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Trying to live longer and so there is this paradox that
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That the film tackles in a really elegant way and as well
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and it's also I think the thing that drew me into the film almost the most was the
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Absurd like you're saying it already feels absurd in real life when you're dealing with these fertility issues
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or
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Complications is a better word than issues
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But there are these um, there are these absurd situations that that they have to go through and
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I think that humor and that tension between the control and the need for freedom
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We're all we're all
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things I was excited to to participate in
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Yeah, and I agree with all of that and
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I was excited to play the role of Ari and I
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Love the script and I was excited to work with these three brilliant women and
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I really loved sort of his place within the dynamic of of the the sort of trio
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Within the marriage, but also his his role within the world that we've built. I think is very interesting to me as well
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Um, let me see your character does it gets pretty funny how absurd of a turn she takes
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Well, what was the most fun part for you in inhabiting that?
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Well, I don't want to give too much away
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but yeah, obviously it's like she
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She had to you know
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I
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mean
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Yeah, like I said, I I had to be quite fearless
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Stepping on set. It was several days when I I think one of the first days when my character kind of
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You know starts one of her
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Well, she tests
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Yeah, I you know I felt like we had all read that scene and like I think everyone just felt like how is this gonna
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Play out and you know at certain point. I just had to kind of let go
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I mean the good thing is that you kind of can connect and
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Get inspiration a lot from
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your own life
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And I felt like I got got to kind of go through a journey of discovering myself
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different
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You know ages, which was very interesting
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Did you guys know each other before filming and the the trio has
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Each one has a very unique relation to the other. How did you guys?
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go about filming or
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Establishing your dynamics with each other. I mean we met through this project. I
06:07
We did a zoom early on before going to
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Tenerife and then we had that week together
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It did feel like we did it felt like we had time yeah, it's a good thing
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You know you know it's like you know we knew when we were gonna end up on set
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It was gonna be as it is with any smaller independent film not much time
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but I felt like we kind of did a deep dive very quickly, and I felt like we created a
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Friendship and a way to collaborate that felt very natural very quickly
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Yeah, it's all about the prep so I talked to each of them like we talked a lot about the character and how
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They arrived you know at the beginning of the film and in at what stage they are in their life
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What happened before like their trauma and all that and then we we met like together
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like and
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zoom with
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Alicia and Lizzie and then we had a week before when I met with
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Imesh and Lizzie and they had a week to hang out together
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So I think it's some so important because otherwise you arrive on set and you don't know
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It should there and you don't have time to discuss all those elements. You know
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also, there are a lot of films where you shoot in these remote locations and
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People on the weekends go off to their their private lives because they're
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Exhausted or want that time alone
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and we just kept gravitating towards one another and I found that to be a really unique and it doesn't happen all the time and
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I felt it was it was incredibly
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Comforting and special and so it just it continued to build on itself as the film went because we also had this play time
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As well as this work time and it was really it was a really lovely experience
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And I know that
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Films don't always get the luxury of having a week of prep time. Was that helpful for you guys to have that built-in?
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I mean the thing is when you get on set
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You don't you don't want to think about what you're doing and you want to be open to what your you know
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Colleagues and co-actors give you and like you go down routes that you didn't expect
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But it is amazing like if you come well prepared and you have had the conversations that we had we knew where these
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Characters came from and their backstories
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That you know that makes you kind of be able to you know start with your feet running
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Yeah, then I think you can and
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Really the performance like it is amazing because I think the time that we spent before then and set you can like have to magic
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Happen and the connection that you see it's also because we yeah, we were like going out
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Together at the weekend. It was kind of a family like feeling but then on set
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It's just like, you know the fun because you know all the backstory, you know, all the rest, you know each other
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So you have a safe space to explore and I feel like the three of them they explored like yeah
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I
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Said it didn't even before I think the script and the story really allowed all of us at different moments to be incredibly uncomfortable
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and and push ourselves and push ourselves from a creative place and
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What more can you ask for in a job that already like so elegantly is telling a story that it's also you know these
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this
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What it's need what it needs of you is something that you get to grow with and it's it was it was really a lovely
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opportunity
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For better or worse. Did this change the way any of you think or feel about parenthood?
09:52
No, it just continues the dialogue
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I mean, it's like you never learn
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Every day
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In a certain way, yeah, I think it did I didn't made me questions about like other things
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You have to be incredibly intentional. I mean the whole film is about like the intention of of the why
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we choose to become parents or choose to grow a family and
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And I and I think that is that resonates with all of us in our own ways and it
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Resonates so present in the film
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And the kind of world you want to build and yeah what you want to bring into that world
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Be it through a child or through other means, you know how you want to contribute to the world
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Yeah
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And and because in the film the state is is kind of controlling who is able to get kids have kids
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What did you make of the the modern parallels with with the film?
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She's already
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Parallels of the film in terms of reproductive rights with the state in this movie kind of having control over who who's able to have
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kids
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Sorry, you mean like on the political level. Oh, yeah. Okay. I think it's quite interesting because
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you see that it's quite close to what we see today in like many countries and
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And not only u.s
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but like everywhere like the control about like woman's body, but also people's rights and
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and also like the the absurdity and the paradox of like
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wanting to control that but at the same time being like so selfish about our own existence and you know, like
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Because if you want kids you want them to have a great future and we are not working that way, you know
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So, I think that is interesting
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Did anyone else want to chime in I
11:59
Think she gave it
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And what are you hoping when audiences see this film, what are you hoping that they they take away I
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Think that's always a hard question to answer because I feel like I never enter a project thinking about no
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I never know never and I also never leave one with an agenda either
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But I do think I think what we all have like agreed upon when talking about that concept of what we want people to feel
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It's a continuation of conversation and questions. It's not necessarily an answer
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Yeah, I think it's what you want like people to feel to keep thinking about it like days after and if you want them to
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Think about it. It means that it keeps questioning them
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So you you don't I mean you don't want to give like an answer about that
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how she do they should think of feel and I don't want to be judgmental or so like
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It's just like we raise question and after you and you do your hands
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And also, you know, these are themes that we talk about but I mean when I read it
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It was mostly like it it was also a very intense chamber piece
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Thriller that I was just, you know engaged and completely, you know compelled by so I hope that people will then have a similar
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Experience, you know watching the film that would be great. Yeah, I think that's what it's interesting
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So it's like it's definitely a thriller because you're on the edge of your seat like at every moment
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You don't know what's gonna happen, but there's a so like absurd you more like dark
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There's also a bit of sci-fi and it's and it's like quite dramatic at the same time
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And I think it's interesting that nowadays we are allowed to
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Explore different genre within the same film
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It makes me more. Yeah
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Yeah, I definitely went into the film thinking it was a more sci-fi thriller, but there are definitely comedic moments in it
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How did you land on that that tone?
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It wasn't a script. Yeah
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Yeah, I mean it is quite absurd some of the situations that these characters find themselves in
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So yeah, it was not in the script at first
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No, not me like the writers like yeah, you know, I think it's a
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Years ago. It was very straightforward. I
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Think the it took years to develop like
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Definitely the characters because I thought it was the most important and also that offbeat tone
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It's very hard to get and it's like the with the writer
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And I was like Neil and Dave and then gender and gender nearly we work together to
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Have that specific tone and some scenes that we wanted to have absurd but dark at the same time, too
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So that you would feel like a kind of awkward
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Yeah
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Yeah, awkward is a real or help making people feel uncomfortable. Yeah, really gratifying. Yeah, because
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We should all be uncomfortable
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Definitely had that on the page and what I actually tried to do more was to
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find
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sensitivity and like groundness within
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That there was a very, you know
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Absurd
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Moments, I think we can only play the truth of it, you know
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Yeah is what it is is absurd what we're going through but we could only focus on being truthful
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Okay, well, thank you guys so much it was so great having you here, thank you. Thank you
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