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Anderson .Paak on Directing His Son Soul in the Family Comedy "K-Pops" | Variety Studio at TIFF 2024
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9/8/2024
Director/Actor Anderson .Paak, along with his son Soul, discuss their upcoming film "K-Pops" at the Variety Studio at TIFF.
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It was kind of tough sometimes for me to turn off the dad and put on the director.
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I just felt like sometimes it was tough for me to separate because I wanted to also be
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there for him as a dad, make sure he was comfortable, but also get the best take I
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could so that he enjoys it so we can watch something that we can be proud of in the end.
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Thank you both for being here.
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I want to start with Anderson.
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Obviously, you have your music career, you DJ, you also have restaurants.
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Why even direct a movie?
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I mean, what was the inspiration to enter this world?
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Well, it was my son who inspired it.
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I was at the house during quarantine, you know, no more touring.
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And I got a chance to spend a lot of time with him and my family and got to see what
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they were into.
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And my house was being taken over by K-pop at the time.
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And BTS was just all I ever heard.
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And that's when I posed the question.
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I know you know about BTS, but what do you know about BET, you know?
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And yeah, it all started there.
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Then we started doing YouTube skits.
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And I got more into the YouTube skits than him.
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I started editing them and filming them.
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And I started seeing how naturally talented he was and fun.
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And we started creating such a bond doing it.
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And I forgot about everything else I was doing.
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I forgot about shows and everything.
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I just wanted to spend more time with him, having fun doing skits.
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And I was like, son, I want to write a movie for us.
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This could be funny, you know?
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And I was thinking, I wanted to direct it because I didn't want anybody else to play
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my son but my son.
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And I knew I wanted to be there with him and be able to spend time with him and direct
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him and also star in it with him.
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And the idea, we worked on it, it was maybe over three years ago when it started.
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And it took a crazy form.
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And now we're at TIFF.
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And it's like, it's amazing to be able to cross the finish line and be able to play
02:08
it in a huge theater and see the reactions of people.
02:11
How much of yourselves are in the characters?
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There's a lot.
02:17
BJ is the role I play.
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And there's a little bit of the early stages of my career with BJ, with me playing in dive
02:27
bars and thinking that, you know, that was pretty much as good as it was going to get,
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getting the weekends at the bars and getting drink tickets and playing in karaoke bands.
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That's how we started.
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And I didn't really think about much about the future until I had my first son, until
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I started a family.
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And it gave me more of a reason to develop more of a work ethic and build more than just
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me.
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And that's where BJ's story arc kind of goes.
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He was really selfish and self-absorbed and thinks that, you know, if he's going to make
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it and he doesn't make it, then he becomes a bitter musician.
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But in the end, when he finds Tay, he becomes really just into Tay and working with him
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and seeing how smart and fast and awesome he is and puts his dreams aside and becomes
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really apparent.
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And that was pretty much what happened to me when we were doing these skits and like
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hanging out more.
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What about you, Saul?
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And what was your impression of your dad as a director?
03:27
Yeah.
03:28
Well, at the end of the day, he is my dad.
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So it was not really that different.
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But when he had his director's hat on, it was pretty easy for me to act.
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If it was like someone else, it would have been more difficult, I'd say.
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But it was my dad.
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So he kind of knew my preferences and my weaknesses and strengths.
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So, yeah, I think that's a good part of not only him being my director as a dad, but also
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the actor, because in the film, he is my dad.
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So that's it is the bond is real.
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It's more authentic that way.
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So that's what I think.
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Yeah.
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And Anderson, obviously, it's your first time directing.
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What were the things you found most challenging?
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And then also specifically to directing your own kid, what did you find challenging about that?
04:22
Oh, man.
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You know, when you're doing music and doing shows, the amount of people that you work with
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is way more condensed.
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And I've been working with them for years.
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And with movies, there's so many departments and there's so many things that go
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beyond just directing actors.
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You have to put out so many fires and you have to be able to communicate
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your vision very specific and be very clear, because a lot of times you don't have a lot of
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time to waste.
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And time is money.
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And it's you're dealing with bigger budgets and more people.
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And you just have to know how to communicate and talk to the actors.
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And even though Sol is my son, it was kind of tough sometimes for me to turn off the dad
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and put on the director.
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I just feel like sometimes it was tough for me to separate because I wanted to also be
05:12
there for him as a dad.
05:13
Make sure he's comfortable, but also get the best take I could so that he enjoys it, so
05:17
we can watch something that we can be proud of in the end.
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But luckily, he's such a natural and really good with taking direction.
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And he trusted his director, trusted his dad, that it was a smooth process.
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And it was one of the most fulfilling, creatively.
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Sol, did you always want to be an actor or was it this project that made you think like,
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oh, I guess I could do this?
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Did I want to be an actor?
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No.
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I didn't have any passion whatsoever before we filmed.
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I didn't really see myself as an actor.
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But until like when we started filming, I was like, oh, I have a little potential.
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I don't know.
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I just like before this film, I didn't really have any thoughts about acting or pursuing
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acting at all.
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Did you get any advice from any of the co-stars in the movie besides your dad?
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Yes.
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Shout out to Sarah, my acting teacher.
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She helped me a lot.
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My acting teacher helped me a lot with improving my acting and stuff and my lines and even
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improvising.
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So that was great.
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Without her, I wouldn't have been.
06:31
Anderson, I want to ask, obviously, Bruno Mars is back with a song with Lady Gaga.
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Are there any conversations about doing another Silksonic album?
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You know, I've been so like engulfed in this movie.
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It's been taking over my life.
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So the main conversations I'm having, I've been with my editors, I've been with my music
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editors and mastering and coloring.
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And that's pretty much been my life for the last few years.
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And so even when I was working with Bruno, I was always coming back to this working on
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the script.
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So it's taken over.
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And the last time I hung out with Bruno was just recently.
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I came out on his show.
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And I think that Silksonic always has a place to put out more music.
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And we'll always have that group and always have that outlet to do it.
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So we'll just see.
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Time will tell.
07:19
So you're not just going to go four for four and retire with that?
07:25
The last thing I wanted to ask you both is being at Toronto Film Festival together and
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not only having completed the movie, but showing it in front of an audience and being
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around the festival.
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How special is that of a moment to share that with each other?
07:40
It's huge.
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I mean, this whole thing started from YouTube skits and me just wanting to develop a bond
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with my son.
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My mom said that it's one thing for your kids to love you and to hang out.
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But it's another thing for you to have a real bond with them and create memories that last
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forever and show by example that you could start something and finish it strong.
08:01
I learned so much in the process.
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And I learned so much about my son and watched him grow.
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And I couldn't be prouder of the project and just being able to have those memories and
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somewhat of like a love letter to my young Serski over here.
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It's huge.
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And then for it to be able to get into TIFF, such a prestigious festival, it's everything.
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We just had the premiere yesterday and we haven't really had a screening before this.
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And watching it in that big theater with thousands of people laughing.
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And it was the feeling was just almost overwhelming.
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And I'm just so proud that he was able to trust me and go through with it and finish
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and just he shines so, so bright on the screen.
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And it's inspired me to continue.
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And I'm excited about what the future holds with me and film.
08:54
So have you met any fun celebrities while being here?
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Fun celebrities.
09:01
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So my son, yeah, John Cheadle, Selena Gomez, Selma.
09:11
What else?
09:14
Yikes.
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I think that's pretty much it.
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Like for the major ones.
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Yeah, it's a pretty good rock.
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It was crazy.
09:19
Yeah.
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Well, thank you so much for being here.
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Both of you.
09:23
Congratulations on the film.
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