Indonesia-Afrika Forum (IAF) 2024 yang berlangsung di Bali pada 1-3 September 2024 berhasil memperkuat hubungan ekonomi antara Indonesia dan negara-negara Afrika. Forum ini menjadi ajang strategis bagi Badan Usaha Milik Negara (BUMN), perusahaan nasional, perusahaan swasta, serta Usaha Mikro, Kecil, dan Menengah (UMKM) untuk menjalin kerja sama yang saling menguntungkan dengan mitra-mitra dari Afrika.
Demikian dikatakan Direktur Afrika, Direktorat Jenderal Asia, Pasifik dan Afrika Kementerian Luar Negeri (Kemlu) Dewi Justicia Meidiwaty.
Forum dihadiri oleh 40 perusahaan Indonesia, baik BUMN maupun swasta yang berpartisipasi aktif. Hal itu menunjukkan komitmen kuat Indonesia dalam berbagai sektor strategis seperti energi, kesehatan, pertanian, teknologi, dan perbankan. “Melalui berbagai kesepakatan yang ditandatangani, IAF 2024 diharapkan dapat mendorong pertumbuhan ekonomi dan memperkuat posisi Indonesia di kancah internasional," ujar Dewi.
00:00Indonesia-Africa Forum 2024 is expected to strengthen economic cooperation between Indonesia and Africa, and through IAF, Indonesia is calling for global solidarity to be a driver of change.
00:30Indonesia-Africa Forum 2024 is expected to strengthen economic cooperation between Indonesia and Africa, and through IAF, Indonesia is calling for global solidarity to be a driver of change.
00:55Indonesia-Africa Forum 2024 is expected to strengthen economic cooperation between Indonesia and Africa, and through IAF, Indonesia is calling for global solidarity to be a driver of change.
01:07In addition, the government continues to distribute Bandung Spirit, which is the result of the Asia-Africa Conference, which later became the main foundation in cooperation with Africa.
01:17In addition, IAF has also launched the Africa Agenda 2063, which is a roadmap for economic growth and development, which provides savings for African countries for the next 50 years.
01:30Indonesia is committed to continue to act as a bridge builder, as a bridge between differences, and also to be a bridge in defending the interests of the global south, and to continue to fight for equality and justice for developing countries.
01:52At this time, the voice and interests of the global south must be heard, and the rights of the global south for development must be respected.
02:04According to Retno, Indonesia will do some strengthening of economic cooperation with Africa through the meeting of HLF-MSP and IAF in Bali, including through the signing of the agreement on the development of geothermal power plants with Tanzania.
02:23Yes, Pemir, welcome to discuss our topic this time, the optimization of working opportunities with Indonesia-Africa.
02:29We have been connected via Zoom with Mr. Nailul Huda, the Director of Digital Economy at CELIOS. Good morning, Mr. Nailul.
02:37Good morning, Mr. Huda.
02:38How are you?
02:40Alhamdulillah, I'm fine. I'm fine too.
02:43Okay, thank you for the opportunity and Mr. Handito Jiwono, Head of the Export School. Good morning, Mr. Handito.
02:51Good morning, Mr. Huraas.
02:53How are you, sir?
02:55I'm always healthy, but not as healthy as our export.
02:58Wow, that's it. We will discuss it later. But we will review first from CELIOS.
03:03What do you think, Mr. Nailul, about the economic relationship, trade relationship between Indonesia and countries in Africa? Please.
03:12Yes, sir. If we look at it, Africa is one of the alternative markets for our products, besides the traditional markets such as China, America, and so on.
03:28If we look at the data, there is an increase in exports from USD 4.6 trillion in 2020 to USD 6.9 trillion in 2023.
03:41Maybe Mr. Handito will be able to export more.
03:44If we look at it, the imports are also bigger.
03:48Our imports from Africa in 2023 reached USD 9.9 trillion, which is 3 times higher than in 2020.
03:59So, it can be a source of trade to China, to the US, to become our traditional export country.
04:09We see countries such as Egypt, Kenya, and Senegal as potential partners for us to send goods to Africa.
04:24Looking at the potential, can we say that countries in Africa are becoming the main partners for Indonesia's export activities?
04:35No, sir. If we look at it, it's mainly China, Europe, and then America.
04:44But if we look at the future, if we look at it, it's actually the U.S.
04:48If we look at the U.S., for example, the U.S. wants to be limited in some countries.
04:55Some rules in countries such as Europe, the U.S., and so on, want to be limited from the U.S.
05:02What we can see from countries in Africa is that they are becoming potential countries.
05:10Because if we look at it, soybeans are one of the agricultural products that export to Africa quite a lot.
05:19Especially if we look at countries such as Australia, Nigeria, and so on.
05:26I think they are becoming one of the countries for our production, including soybeans, tea, and coffee.
05:34Including for the TPP industry and the invoicing industry.
05:37Okay, so those are some of Indonesia's export communities to countries in Africa.
05:44So, Mr. Hanito, what do you think?
05:47If we talk about export, this is one of the non-traditional countries for Indonesia's export,
05:54which has quite a lot of potential.
05:56And in terms of export value, it keeps growing.
06:01Yes, I agree with what Mr. Huda said.
06:05Indeed, we have to see Africa as a source of export growth.
06:12Right now, it's still small.
06:15It's only plus or minus 1% of Indonesia's export that is donated by Africa.
06:19And I feel that Africa, as a continent that is now emerging,
06:25is growing rapidly, especially with the support and development from China.
06:32This should be an opportunity.
06:35So, if you look at the events in IAF,
06:40there are a lot of my friends in Kadin who are enjoying it.
06:45They are enjoying the joy.
06:49From what I've heard from my friends in Bali,
06:54it's clear that Africa has become a...
07:00it's about to...
07:05how do you say it?
07:06It's about to break.
07:07Break in the sense of refreshing.
07:10However, our efforts should be more solid.
07:15No matter what, we know that there are a lot of African countries
07:19that are still in business.
07:25But some of them have been in business for a long time.
07:26And they have been in communication with South Asian countries.
07:30Africa is also close to Europe.
07:33And many of them are used to modern business.
07:37I think this is what we need to optimize.
07:40A good example is how...
07:42for example, Indofood built a factory in Africa.
07:46That's an example that I think we need to do.
07:49To optimize the African market.
07:52Of course, the African market is big.
07:54We haven't made a big use of it.
07:56Okay. But you've mentioned earlier,
07:58related to our export condition,
08:00that it might not be good.
08:03What do you mean?
08:04And what's the condition like?
08:06Overall? Or how?
08:09Yes, overall, our export is not good.
08:14Because the world economy is not good yet.
08:19Overall.
08:20But secondly, we are now in a position,
08:24our export growth is sustained.
08:26Because it's back to only relying on certain products,
08:31with certain companies.
08:32Okay.
08:33This is what I think.
08:34The Ministry of Trade's efforts to expand the product spectrum,
08:38and also business,
08:40we have to support this.
08:42And it feels like,
08:44it's not only supported,
08:45we have to mobilize business actors,
08:47including the Indonesian Ministry of Trade,
08:49to be able to enter the market,
08:52for example, in Africa.
08:55Okay. Those are some sectors that can be optimized,
08:59related to Indonesia-Africa cooperation.
09:01What do you mean?
09:02How far does Indonesia's role in using this cooperation?
09:08Is it only limited to trade, export, import?
09:11Or is there something that can go further?
09:14Yes, as mentioned earlier by Mr. Hadithor,
09:18regarding investment,
09:20Mr. Prasno.
09:21Investment, if we look at it,
09:23there are several,
09:24for example, Indofood,
09:25which has invested in Africa.
09:27As mentioned by Mr. Hadithor.
09:29Then, we still have some that we can do,
09:33such as investment in agriculture,
09:36for example, oil and so on,
09:38which I think can be done in Africa.
09:42Then, there is investment in the energy sector.
09:46Then, there is investment in the manufacturing sector,
09:49which I think can be done,
09:53so that we can invest in Africa.
09:56In addition,
09:57on the other hand,
09:58South Africa may be able to open investment in the country,
10:02so that the payments are also quite balanced,
10:05between Indonesia and African countries.
10:07What is clear is that
10:09when investment is opened there,
10:11for example,
10:12there is a development,
10:14the development of instant products,
10:16and they eventually bring products to our country.
10:21This is what I can say,
10:23it is the gain from the opening of investment abroad.
10:27Then, energy,
10:29we know that,
10:30first of all,
10:31first of all,
10:32our energy plan is very smart,
10:35to be able to open up,
10:37open up new exploration areas in Africa,
10:41to be able to meet the needs of oil in the country and so on.
10:45So, in terms of investment, it is very, very open.
10:48Then, we can also cooperate in terms of infrastructure,
10:54for example, infrastructure,
10:55we know some,
10:57and we are also exporting to rich countries.
11:01For the U.M.N,
11:03the U.M.N has also exported to Africa.
11:10So, this is what I think can be strengthened there,
11:15in addition to the business side,
11:17from the investment side.
11:18Yes, it's interesting if we look at it from the investment side,
11:20remembering the condition of Indonesia,
11:22which is indeed from the industry,
11:25which is also being affected by the PMI,
11:27which the manufacturer continues to decline in the last few months.
11:31Is there any potential for us to do that,
11:33to invest in Africa,
11:36and how worthy it is for us to invest
11:39in the economic growth in Africa,
11:41we will discuss later in the next segment.
11:43We will take a short break.
11:44Make sure you are still with us.
11:55Economic Transformation, Energy and Mining, Food Sustainability, Health, and Co-development.
12:03In the next segment, we will present data
12:05related to the points or focus of discussion
12:07in the Indonesia-Africa forum in 2024.
12:11As you can see on the television screen,
12:13there is an economic transformation,
12:15then there is energy and mining,
12:17then food sustainability, health, and co-development.
12:21Those are some of the points that will be discussed.
12:23Meanwhile, the realization of African countries' investment in Indonesia.
12:29We can see the movement throughout the first quarter of 2023
12:33up to the second quarter of 2024.
12:37It is quite fluctuating.
12:39We can see the highest in the third quarter of 2023
12:42reaching US$241.16 million.
12:46Okay, we will continue our discussion
12:48with our guest speaker this time.
12:50Mr. Nailul, looking at the potential of investment,
12:53Mr. Dito, and you,
12:57how big is it?
12:59How worthy is it? Is it worth it or not?
13:02If we invest in African countries.
13:09We will map it.
13:15There are countries in Africa that grow quite fast.
13:20Then there are countries whose economic growth is very slow.
13:24It is very worth it.
13:26Let's say G20.
13:29If we ask,
13:33in Africa, it is rare for people to follow G20.
13:37But if we look at the economic side,
13:40it is quite developed
13:43for trading,
13:45exporting with Indonesia, it is quite big.
13:49Other than Austria, Africa, and Nigeria.
13:52G20 is known for transportation and logistics,
13:56then real estate and energy.
13:58If we look at the bottom line,
14:00we can open up for energy.
14:03For example, we can expand there for privatization
14:06through our energy government.
14:08Then, for example, from the logistic side,
14:11because if we look at it,
14:13G20 is actually the same as Singapore,
14:16they offer transportation hub,
14:20from Africa to the outside world.
14:23For example, we can enter the sector there.
14:27Then from the economic side, Kenya.
14:31Kenya is agriculture,
14:33we can also work there
14:37to invest in agriculture in Kenya.
14:40But don't forget,
14:42we can also hope from South Africa,
14:45which has a large economy,
14:47it can also set a model in Indonesia.
14:50Because if we look at it,
14:52there must be ups and downs.
14:55We can invest in Africa,
14:58then Africa can also invest in Indonesia.
15:02We see South Africa
15:04as one of the sectors that can invest in Indonesia
15:08that has potential,
15:10other than the energy sector.
15:12That's it.
15:13Mr. Hanito, do you see a big potential
15:15if Africa can become a hub
15:17for Indonesia's export activities,
15:19or actually become a base
15:21for the production of Indonesia's top commodities,
15:24then exported abroad?
15:28Yes, indeed, all this time,
15:31if we look at Indonesia's exports,
15:33it's focused on Africa,
15:35HS15, around fat and petroleum,
15:38HS27, minerals,
15:41or 48, paper.
15:43But Africa has a lot of potential.
15:45It's impossible for us
15:47if we look at the geographical position
15:49of Africa, which is quite far away,
15:51if everything depends on sending from Indonesia.
15:53I think this is a new era.
15:55We've seen Mr. Prabowo's era,
15:58who wants to strengthen the country,
16:00but also wants to dominate the world.
16:02I think we have to put this
16:04in the context of dominating the world.
16:06I think dominating the world now,
16:08dominating the world doesn't mean
16:09we're all colonizing the world,
16:11but we're taking advantage of the world.
16:13Now, there's this thing,
16:15lately, we're starting to be lazy
16:17to think about Africa,
16:19because we're afraid.
16:21Africa has a lot of potential.
16:24For example, dominating the market
16:26in Europe and Africa,
16:28will be better if we build
16:30an investment base in Africa.
16:33So, if the goods we produce
16:35from Indonesia,
16:37we produce it in Africa,
16:39then we send it to France,
16:41to Europe,
16:43especially to the south.
16:45This makes us able to get in there.
16:47But other than that,
16:49Africa's own growth,
16:51we have to take advantage of it.
16:53Of course, we have to start building
16:55global Indonesian corporations.
16:57Now, there are some,
16:59there are a lot of countries
17:01that are willing to give incentives
17:03for us to build factories.
17:05The factories don't have to be from scratch
17:07until the product is finished.
17:09Maybe just the packaging.
17:11Put food products, fission products.
17:13All this time,
17:15many African friends are buying from Indonesia.
17:17Let's just bring it in,
17:18so it's more effective to get in there.
17:20So, products like that,
17:21I think we need to push.
17:23But I suggest the country to take the lead.
17:26Then, choose.
17:28Choose the product.
17:29Together with the entrepreneurs, of course.
17:31Which products are the priorities
17:33that we should develop?
17:35If we need to invest in Africa,
17:37it's not just to take advantage of this.
17:39I see it,
17:41in the context of exports,
17:42it's not just to take advantage of,
17:43for example, what you just said,
17:44Indonesia's investment abroad,
17:46especially in Africa,
17:47is mostly related to mining,
17:49including land areas there.
17:52I don't think it's just that.
17:53But it has to be strategically,
17:55what product do we want to bring?
17:57All over Indonesia,
17:59to the world,
18:01and through Africa.
18:02I think products related to furniture,
18:05products related to fashion,
18:07products related to food,
18:09these are products that we can develop,
18:11if we need to,
18:13the fabrication in Africa.
18:15What are the challenges, Mr. Handito,
18:17if you see it like that?
18:18So, earlier,
18:19plus or minus 1% of Indonesia's total exports
18:22can be increased again for African areas.
18:25Yes, the biggest challenge so far,
18:27if we talk about Indonesia-Africa,
18:29it's amazing,
18:30Indonesia-Africa forum,
18:31Indonesia as a country,
18:34collaborating with Africa,
18:36as a national group,
18:37it's amazing.
18:38But that's the challenge, actually.
18:40So far, Indonesia's business,
18:42many people still see,
18:43Africa is far away, difficult,
18:47I don't understand.
18:48This is the biggest challenge.
18:50This mindset,
18:51I think it has succeeded in the current government,
18:53Jokowi's government,
18:55to build,
18:56hey, Africa and Indonesia,
18:58it's okay,
18:59the African people,
19:00African countries that are familiar with Indonesia,
19:02Indonesia is also more familiar with Africa.
19:05Well, the government,
19:07Mr. Korabowo, I think,
19:08has the chance to make use of this.
19:10So,
19:13the biggest problem,
19:14especially in the message,
19:15and now it's starting to be solved,
19:17the second problem is financing.
19:18I think,
19:19especially financing,
19:20I suggest
19:21Indonesia's export financing agency
19:23to be revitalized.
19:25In the past,
19:26in the future,
19:27we are used to support,
19:29accompany Indonesian companies to enter the world.
19:31Including investment,
19:32let's say, in Africa.
19:34This can become
19:35a locomotive for financing,
19:37which later,
19:38it doesn't have to be provided by LPEI,
19:39but it can also be supported by national or international banks.
