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Rauf Hassan kay Sath Custody Kay Doran Kiya Kuch Howa? Shocking Revelations
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Rauf Hassan kay Sath Custody Kay Doran Kiya Kuch Howa? Shocking Revelations
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In general Faiz Ameed's view, his court martial, his arrest, military custody, accusations,
00:07
that he was involved in some things even after his retirement,
00:09
it would be easier to know what the army is thinking today,
00:14
if we look at today's ISPR press release,
00:18
which was the core commander conference, of course,
00:21
under the leadership of Sipa Salar and Asim Munir Sahib.
00:24
After that, the press release that has come,
00:26
the relevant part of it, he says that the army,
00:29
through its unwavering determination, strong calculation,
00:33
and strict calculation, it maintains its dignity.
00:39
In strict calculation, there is no room for any kind of exception.
00:45
Then see, in strict calculation,
00:47
in strict calculation, there is no room for any kind of exception,
00:51
there can be no reason, and there is no exception,
00:53
there is no exception.
00:55
When this press release is coming,
00:57
at that time, a former DGI of Pakistan,
00:59
who was one of the most powerful people in Pakistan,
01:03
one of the two or three most powerful people,
01:06
he is in military custody at the moment,
01:08
and in such a situation, the army's declaration says that
01:10
there is no kind of exception in strict calculation,
01:13
there is no exception, there is no exception.
01:15
Further, the strict calculation system in the army is necessary for the stability of the institution.
01:21
So, he is also saying that this is not a matter of one person,
01:25
it is necessary for the stability of the institution, for the stability of the army,
01:28
that strict calculation is done.
01:30
Because, he further said,
01:32
no person is superior or superior to the calculation system.
01:38
Whoever it is, XYZ,
01:40
he is not superior to the calculation system.
01:42
And then further, another reference was also said by today's press release,
01:45
that the forum, through strict cyber security measures,
01:48
emphasized the protection of national cyberspace.
01:52
So, it is easy to understand that
01:56
the things that are going on regarding cyber issues,
02:00
a special thinking, an official version of it is coming forward.
02:03
So, it is coming forward.
02:05
This is today's big development.
02:07
But, a very important question is that,
02:09
on the most important issues,
02:10
the central translator of the Pakistan's Aham Jamaat,
02:15
the person who is in charge,
02:16
what is he thinking?
02:17
And he himself, in the last few days, we all saw in the news,
02:21
that he himself was under custody.
02:23
Now, he has been released.
02:24
And, of course, he is fulfilling the duties of the party's translator.
02:27
I am really thankful that he is with us.
02:29
Mr. Rauf Hassan,
02:32
of course, the senior adviser of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf.
02:34
Sir, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
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Wa-alaikum-as-salam, Wasim.
02:38
Such a pleasure being in your program.
02:41
Thank you very much.
02:42
Always a pleasure having you in the show, sir.
02:43
Thank you very much for your time.
02:44
Really grateful.
02:45
Sir, first, if you allow me,
02:47
I would like to ask you,
02:49
your release process has now come into effect.
02:52
During this time,
02:55
was there any physical torture or any such situation?
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I don't like to discuss this.
03:05
No, not at all.
03:07
They were very civil.
03:10
Obviously, interrogation and everything else,
03:12
you know, that was conducted.
03:13
And as far as their attitude was concerned,
03:18
wherever I have been, wherever I have been captive,
03:21
their attitude was very civil.
03:23
And just one last thing on this,
03:25
then we will move forward.
03:27
Were there any inhuman conditions in which you were kept?
03:32
Inhuman will have to be defined.
03:35
When you are in captivity,
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you are not a free person.
03:38
So, it is imperative that there are no five-star facilities.
03:43
If you are in a cell, then you are in a cell.
03:46
But inhuman will have to be defined.
03:48
Whatever our normal habitations are there,
03:55
the conditions of the normal cells,
03:57
I have also been in that.
03:59
I have also survived.
04:01
Correct, okay.
04:02
And sir, during this time,
04:04
the things that came from you,
04:06
that he was in contact with a journalist,
04:08
this and that,
04:10
was it all an imposition?
04:13
Was it all fake?
04:15
Or do you own what came in front of you?
04:17
And your position is that there is nothing wrong in it?
04:20
Or was it all fake?
04:23
Look, I am the Central Information Secretary of the party
04:26
and I am also its Principal Spokesperson.
04:29
Now, it is my responsibility
04:32
that I contact the journalist community
04:35
in Pakistan and outside Pakistan.
04:39
Karan Thapar belongs to India,
04:43
but he is a professional voice.
04:47
He is recognized all over the world.
04:49
And I have had a lot of conversations with him.
04:55
I have not seen what he leaked.
04:57
It is imperative that he must have taken it from my phone.
05:02
So, I don't see anything wrong in it.
05:06
If I don't keep in touch with him,
05:08
then he will be my failure as the Information Secretary of the party.
05:11
He has also spoken to a few other people about my contacts.
05:15
There is nothing in him
05:18
on the basis of which you can make cases against me.
05:22
Is your mobile phone still in your possession?
05:25
No, it is not in my possession yet.
05:27
That telephone was taken
05:29
and it is still with him.
05:31
Look, I am saying this with a lot of pain.
05:36
But I should say that
05:39
we have put a custom in this country
05:43
that we give the certificate of treachery
05:47
and the certificate of treachery.
05:49
This should end.
05:51
In our own context,
05:55
in the role we are playing,
05:57
we all love this country.
06:00
We want this country to develop.
06:04
We want the institutions of this country to be strong
06:07
and play their role.
06:09
We want them to contribute to this country.
06:12
But there is a fundamental requirement.
06:14
Until we fulfill that fundamental requirement,
06:17
we will continue to wander in the zone of conflict.
06:21
And that fundamental requirement is that
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there is a constitution of this country.
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And in that constitution,
06:27
there is a list of all the institutions.
06:31
And until we live in that constitution
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and play our role,
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all the institutions, one and all,
06:38
the country will not be able to get out of this crisis.
06:43
Mr. Doctor, in complete agreement with this,
06:46
that this issue of the certificate of treachery
06:49
should end,
06:50
I am asking you in agreement with this,
06:52
do you think that in this regard,
06:54
there have been some mistakes,
06:56
even in the past,
06:57
for example,
06:58
you are accusing a journalist
07:00
that this is the political environment in this country,
07:03
the institutions are interfering,
07:05
and you are accusing an Indian journalist
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that our army is doing this.
07:08
Mr. Khan's statements are on record,
07:10
that Zardari complains to the US
07:12
that our army is doing this,
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that is why he is a traitor.
07:14
Nawaz Sharif criticizes FOB,
07:16
and he criticizes an army chief,
07:18
and he criticizes FOB,
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this is Modi's friend.
07:20
This is also a very blatant statement,
07:23
it is okay to criticize,
07:24
but to say he is a traitor,
07:25
is a little dangerous.
07:27
Look, Mr. Waseem,
07:29
it's an all-encompassing statement,
07:31
which I have said,
07:32
this is from anyone,
07:34
ABC, XYZ,
07:36
no exceptions.
07:39
We will have to stop
07:41
binding the certificate of treachery
07:43
and the certificate of treachery.
07:46
We will have to trust our people,
07:48
we will have to develop faith in our people.
07:51
We have a lot of crises, Mr. Waseem.
07:53
Yes, that's right.
07:54
Now look,
07:55
there is an economic crisis,
07:56
there is a security crisis,
07:57
we have geostrategic crises.
07:59
And until the nation is not united,
08:01
until the units of this country are not united,
08:04
until the people are not together,
08:06
until the credible government
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and legitimate government are not installed,
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democratic principles are not followed,
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the sanctity of the constitution is not violated,
08:16
the country is not united under one umbrella,
08:19
the people cannot be united under one umbrella,
08:22
our problems cannot be solved.
08:24
I am not saying anything wrong to anyone,
08:26
I am not saying anything right to anyone.
08:28
This basic principle should apply to everyone.
08:31
If you want to move forward,
08:32
you will have to understand a few things.
08:34
Now look, in the context of Don Leaks,
08:36
Mr. Rahul,
08:37
treachery is on one side,
08:38
but the military courts that are being discussed a lot these days,
08:41
senior leaders of PTI used to come on television
08:45
and give arguments that
08:46
this Don Leaks proves that
08:48
all these people are traitors,
08:49
hence their case should go to the military court.
08:52
On record.
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I will repeat my statement again.
08:57
I am not creating any exceptions in my statement.
09:00
Correct. Absolutely right.
09:01
I am not creating any exceptions.
09:04
We will have to change ourselves.
09:06
We will have to change our way.
09:08
We will have to commit ourselves
09:10
to the state of Pakistan.
09:12
Very appropriate. Absolutely right.
09:13
And when you say there is no exception in this,
09:15
then the matter is over. Absolutely right.
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