"Unho Nay kaha 22 August Ka Jalsa Multavi Krdein...." Rauf Hassan Reveals Big Insides

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#imrankhan #pti #ptijalsa #islamabadjalsa #adialajail   "Unho Nay kaha 22 August Ka Jalsa Multavi Krdein...." Rauf Hassan Reveals Big Insides

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00:00Now, Mr. Mehmood Achakzai has said that if he wants, he can talk to the political parties.

00:07In this, sir, I just want to clarify that you have said this as the head of an alliance, that is fine.

00:12But does he have the authority to make a commitment on behalf of the PTI,

00:17if it is related to the political parties, then the PTI will honour it.

00:21Does Mr. Achakzai have this mandate?

00:23I will explain.

00:25The official stance of the PTI is that we will not have direct negotiations with the three mandated parties,

00:32that is, PMLN, People's Party and MQMP.

00:38This has been our stance and this is our stance as far as you and I talk.

00:44Mr. Mehmood Achakzai had expressed his desire that I want to engage with political parties.

00:50In appreciation of his desire, Mr. Khan gave him permission that if you want to engage with political forces,

00:59then do it. And if there are any proposals, substantive proposals,

01:03then we will sit and consider and see what should be done about them.

01:07After Mr. Khan's permission, Mr. Mehmood Achakzai is now trying to engage with political forces

01:17and if any substantive proposals are formulated, then those proposals will come to Mr. Khan

01:24and perhaps we will also participate in his discussion and decide how to proceed.

01:30Until now, apart from these three parties, we have contact with every other political party.

01:35We want a greater democratic alliance to be formed.

01:40At present, there are five political parties and I hope that in the near future,

01:44two, three, four more political parties will be included.

01:47When Mr. Mehmood Achakzai brings his report or his proposals after his engagement,

01:54then a next phase will begin as to what to do about those proposals.

01:59Then it will be seen whether they are feasible or not.

02:01Mr. Maulana, do you feel that Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shahbaz are getting closer to you

02:06after the recent developments or do you feel that the distance between you and them is increasing?

02:16The government's chitters show that Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shahbaz are getting closer to us.

02:23You know that our relations with Mr. Maulana have not been so good in recent years.

02:33So, it is a big milestone for us to accept the vast gulf that was separating us.

02:41We have achieved this. We have regular contact with them.

02:44We have sub-committees in the Senate and the National Assembly.

02:48Whatever issues are raised there, they meet to develop a consensus.

02:55Do you have any concerns about these meetings with Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shahbaz?

03:03Sir, I don't have any concerns in the political domain.

03:06In the political domain, my thesis is that if you have any credible proposals

03:14and they are attractive to two parties or four or six or eight parties,

03:18then we have no fear of being afraid of anyone else.

03:20I have already said in the beginning of your question that these are the government's chitters.

03:25Whatever they want to do, they need a two-thirds majority.

03:28So, they are desperately trying.

03:30My personal appraisal at the moment is that Mr. Maulana will not meet with the government.

03:37How do you see this matter?

03:39A person from Mr. Maulana's party, whose name is Noor Alam Khan,

03:43brings a bill in a private way.

03:46But he has said in our program that,

03:48Mr. Badami, can you imagine that I will do something without Mr. Maulana's consent?

03:51He has said this.

03:52So, he brings a bill for an increase in the number of judges.

03:55He brings a bill for the abrogation of the law of the Supreme Court.

03:58And no one from the Dori Shariah should be a judge.

04:00And X, Y, Z.

04:02This surprises you a little bit.

04:04What is this?

04:06There was an element of surprise.

04:08But we have been told that there is no formal approval from that party.

04:16You know that the person you are talking about, Mr. Noor Alam,

04:21he is a bit of a maverick also.

04:23So, I don't know the exact circumstances under which he has moved these bills.

04:30But we have been reassured that the stance of the JUIF,

04:37which they have finalized with us, will not have any effect on the move of this bill.

04:41So, again, you have enough reasons to believe that the JUIF will not support this bill in the parliament.

04:46The collaboration between us and the JUIF is still going on in the parliament.

04:50And because of this collaboration, I can get the result that you have said.

04:56Sir, but Mr. Rahul, if I say something straightforward, will you agree?

05:00In an innocent manner.

05:01That at this time, your issue with the army is that you want to talk to them.

05:06They say no.

05:08This is the straightforward thing. Is it true or not?

05:10Look, I have always been in favor of dialogue.

05:14I have always talked about dialogue within the party.

05:17And I have always said that dialogue with the judiciary is the most important thing.

05:23Because it is a very powerful institution.

05:26And they have the most practical intervention in state affairs.

05:31So this has always been my stance.

05:34This statement of yours is not entirely correct.

05:37I will let you know.

05:39Some of our people have also held ceremonies with them in individual capacity.

05:44Our meeting on August 22 was said by the establishment to postpone it.

05:55Because on that day, you remember that some religious communities had also come to Islamabad.

06:01They were sitting in the Constitution Avenue.

06:03Because a case was being heard in the Supreme Court about the Holy Prophet.

06:11So he said with special insistence that you please postpone this meeting.

06:17So he was told in response that only one person can make such a decision in this party,

06:23whose name is Imran Khan and he is in Adiala.

06:26So then you remember that the huddle of 7 o'clock in the morning was arranged.

06:31And on that basis, Mr. Khan reluctantly postponed that meeting on August 22.

06:38And during the same negotiations,

06:41the No Objection Certificate of the Jalsa on September 8 was given to us in advance by the establishment.

06:49And on the basis of which we are going to hold this Jalsa on September 8.

06:53Now if this is an illicit Jalsa, will you feel that you have been ditched?

06:56Let me finish.

06:57Yes sir, please.

06:58Let me finish that there is a breakthrough.

07:01And I have also said this in my Voice of America interview that this is a breakthrough.

07:05Now our attempt is to make this breakthrough smaller.

07:09But we would like to expand it and increase it.

07:13And a proper dialogue should be started.

07:16Because the solution to the problems of Pakistan is extremely important for it.

07:21The deadlock between Muqtada and Pakistan's largest political party should be broken.

07:28Dialogue should be initiated.

07:30And a basis for mutual benefit should be established and moved forward.

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