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  • 4/29/2024
CEO of Democracy Forward Skye Perryman joined Maggie McGrath on "Forbes Newsroom" to discuss the impact of reproductive health issues on democracy and the Supreme Court hearing oral arguments on Idaho's near-total abortion ban.

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Transcript
00:00 Get into the specifics of these cases in a quick second, but I want to start with a broad question.
00:05 What does abortion have to do with democracy? Why is an organization and someone, a leader like
00:11 yourself, getting involved on these reproductive health cases? Well, look, we know that the vast
00:17 majority of people in this country support access to reproductive health care. People are different.
00:23 They all have different views. They may have different religious backgrounds or community
00:28 backgrounds, but the vast majority of people do not believe that the government should be
00:33 interfering in health care decisions that women have to make about their lives. And so this is
00:38 a democracy issue because it is something that the vast majority of people believe in. They want to
00:44 see protections for reproductive health care, and yet there is a movement that is seeking to roll
00:49 those protections back, as we've seen with Dobbs, of course, being the most prevalent of that
00:56 example of that movement. In addition, what we know is that there is a direct connection between
01:03 the treatment of women and girls in a society and the overall strength of a democracy. And so it is
01:09 not a coincidence that at the same time that we are seeing rise in attacks on voting rights,
01:17 that we are seeing election denialism, that we are seeing these broader threats to our democracy
01:22 overall that are being reported every day and are happening in communities every day, a rise in book
01:26 bans in communities, that we are also seeing extreme attacks on women's health care access
01:33 and rollbacks of the rights for women and girls in this country.
01:37 Now let's dive into the Idaho case that the Supreme Court looked at just yesterday. At issue
01:47 is Idaho's near total abortion ban and a federal law that essentially, in very layman's terms,
01:54 requires that hospitals treat patients in emergency scenarios. And in a case of a
02:00 pregnant person in a situation of emergency, that could mean an emergency abortion.
02:05 What is your impression after hearing those oral arguments yesterday? What is your top line
02:12 takeaway that we should all know about what happened in court? I was in the courtroom yesterday
02:17 and I can tell it was harrowing listening to the stories of women in 2024 being life flighted,
02:25 flown out of hospitals where they can't get care, hearing justices debate about how many organs a
02:32 woman has to lose or how difficult, how threatening an emergency situation has to be to allow a
02:42 physician to do their job and to care for women. Those are the kinds of things that we heard
02:47 yesterday. And so my takeaway is this is incredibly concerning and incredibly serious
02:52 in terms of what it means for the rights of women and in terms of what it means for our
02:58 equal representation. As you just referenced, federal law has for decades protected women's
03:05 access to go to an emergency room and get emergency care. It protects men's access as well.
03:09 All people can go to an emergency room and get the care they need if they're in that emergent
03:13 situation. And the fact that we may be in a situation where the court would contemplate
03:19 and potentially decide that that federal protection does not extend to women who are pregnant who may
03:25 need a termination is deeply concerning and it's undemocratic.

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