HEATED Debate: Is Kentucky a Top 3 Job in College Basketball?

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00:03 >> I'm losing my mind.

00:04 I'm speaking with guys on this network that I used to respect their opinions,

00:08 and I just can't anymore.

00:10 It's one thing for the alleged mouth in the south to say certain things yesterday

00:14 and for Donnie to play the heel, but for our basketball guy, for

00:17 our coach to say that Kentucky is not a top three job in college basketball.

00:23 >> Look at the poll.

00:24 >> I don't know, man.

00:24 DRS, take it from here.

00:26 Take it from here.

00:26 I guess we gotta talk the playoff picture of these.

00:28 I don't know. Go ahead.

00:29 >> Exactly.

00:30 JY, before we start off talking about the playoffs in the east here,

00:33 I mean, it's an agreement here.

00:34 The public knows that the smart people know it.

00:36 Kentucky's just not desirable here.

00:37 You can throw as much money as you want at the Kentucky position.

00:40 We're not gonna take it here.

00:42 Nate Oates, better job in Alabama right now.

00:44 He can relax.

00:44 Drew Dennebailer, better job here.

00:46 Even UConn sits there and stores Connecticut, and we're sitting back going,

00:49 you know what, I'm not going to Kentucky for what?

00:52 If Coach Cal couldn't make it happen in Kentucky, why would I wanna go to

00:56 Kentucky where they'll throw me out in three years, and then I gotta go coach

01:00 like LeMoyne State here to try to rebuild my image and

01:03 try to get back to major Division I basketball here.

01:06 Nobody wants Kentucky here.

01:07 No one, except for you.

01:08 >> All right, all right, Bobby DeBriene, don't make this seem like it's like

01:13 the 50th best job in the country.

01:15 >> It is.

01:15 It's basically Division III.

01:17 >> The guy I bet's gonna have a coronary right now on set.

01:22 Listen, all I'm saying is Duke, Carolina, Kansas.

01:26 Kentucky's still a top five job.

01:29 I just think, listen, yes, Ben made a great point.

01:33 You made a great point.

01:34 Scott Drew didn't take the job over 20 years.

01:35 >> My God.

01:36 >> But Mark Fiorina didn't take the job.

01:38 But what, listen, you mean to tell me that Nate Oates actually believes that

01:41 Alabama's a better job than Kentucky?

01:44 The fact that John Calipari took a $1 million pay cut to run away from

01:49 Kentucky to go to another job.

01:52 I just, I think that- >> What is the argument?

01:56 What is the argument?

01:57 Give me a good argument.

01:59 Give me a good argument.

01:59 Donnie's playing you.

02:00 Give me a good argument why Kentucky's not a top three job in the country.

02:05 Cuz everything you've said so far doesn't back you up.

02:08 But go ahead, go ahead.

02:09 >> Duke, Carolina, Kansas, are they better jobs?

02:12 >> Right, and by the way, so, J-Y, who are the two coaches for Carolina and Duke?

02:16 >> John Shire and Hubert Davis.

02:20 >> Right.

02:21 And where were they before they were hired at their current post?

02:25 >> They were assistant coaches, I get it.

02:27 But if they went out there- >> Right, they were on the bench of

02:29 the legacy plan to be elevated at the place they played college basketball.

02:35 So let me ask a second question.

02:36 If Mark Pope, who won a championship at Kentucky, was on Cal's staff for

02:41 the past five years and not making BYU basketball into a perennial top 20 team

02:46 in Ken Palm, would we say this is a top three job in college basketball?

02:51 Let me ask you this.

02:52 Does Mark Pope move the needle enough for the Kentucky fan base?

02:56 >> Of course not.

02:58 >> But that's not the argument.

02:59 That's not the argument.

03:00 >> Here's the thing.

03:01 >> That's the argument.

03:02 >> If they went outside the family, right?

03:05 If Carolina or Duke went outside the family, is that a better job than Kentucky?

03:11 Is that a better job than Kentucky?

03:12 In your opinion? >> I agree that Duke and Carolina and

03:16 Kentucky are the three best jobs in college basketball.

03:20 And Kansas is probably right there as well to round out our top four and

03:24 then we can put in whoever top five is.

03:26 But your argument is people don't want the job because it's too much pressure.

03:31 Do you think in Lawrence, Kansas, if you didn't win a national championship or

03:36 reach a sweet 16 for five consecutive years,

03:39 there would not be pressure on the head coach inside the fog?

03:43 Come on, pressure is why the job is elite.

03:47 Pressure is why it's one of the best jobs because your expectation

03:51 is a national championship in final four.

03:54 And the idea that they ran Calipari out of town.

03:56 John Calipari hasn't made a sweet 16 since 2019.

04:00 John Calipari has not brought Kentucky to a final four since 2015.

04:04 That's why he's out of town.

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