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"Kisi Judge ko Bulaye ya Na Bulayein Laikn Mazi main Mustafi honay Walay Judges...Expert Opinion
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"Kisi Judge ko Bulaye ya Na Bulayein Laikn Mazi main Mustafi honay Walay Judges...Expert Opinion
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00:00
As bar counsel, would you go to the court and say, "Sir, this is also a case"?
00:04
The Supreme Court has taken a firm stand on this.
00:09
The Supreme Court itself wants the investigation of Shaukat Siddiqui to be done in this same vein.
00:14
It should be done. I will add to this.
00:18
Judge Bashir has retired.
00:21
But if he is also called, because I have been present in the cases of Mr. Zardari.
00:26
How Mr. Zardari's cases were bulldozed, that too...
00:30
Judge Bashir has retired.
00:34
He is a great lawyer.
00:36
He should be given the Fatiha Islamabad.
00:39
I was also present in the cases of Imran Khan.
00:41
Sultan Salauddin was also present.
00:43
Sultan Salauddin was the general of Bashir.
00:46
I have only been in the cases of Sultan Salauddin.
00:48
I will go one step ahead.
00:50
This is not just interference in judicial matters.
00:52
It is also in your matters.
00:54
There are journalists in this.
00:56
There are journalists. They are also present.
00:58
Look, all of us are from all the institutions in Pakistan.
01:01
You are a journalist, all of you are Pakistani.
01:04
You have a Pakistani heart.
01:06
We are sitting here for Pakistan.
01:08
We all want, all the institutions are dear to us.
01:12
They should work in their respective areas.
01:15
And let us do our work and let them do their work.
01:18
For Pakistan, we all should work together.
01:20
But we should work in our respective places.
01:22
This will be our first desire and preference.
01:24
Come, let us roll.
01:26
This is the real roll.
01:28
Justice Jalani has also mentioned about institutional consultation.
01:32
I just want to know, should there be such a consultation?
01:35
Are there pressures on other judges?
01:38
Can the #MeToo movement start with judges?
01:40
Imran, starting with you.
01:41
Do you think that a Supreme Court can work like this?
01:44
If everyone has some other grievances,
01:46
then tell us, without saying later,
01:48
that you are late.
01:51
There is a forum of the National Court of Justice Policy Committee.
01:56
Chief Justice of the High Court is present there.
02:00
He can arrange a policy there.
02:03
What can be the code of conduct?
02:05
If there is pressure on judges, they can react accordingly.
02:08
But as Shahbaz Bhai has said,
02:11
Judge Mohammed Bashir should be called.
02:14
So when we have reiterated the allegations of Shaukat Aziz Sreeki
02:18
that an investigation should be carried out,
02:20
then if we have to call judges,
02:22
then we have to call former Chief Justice Saqib Nisar.
02:25
And we have to call former Chief Justice Umar Ta Bandyal.
02:29
We have to call Judge Jadhul Hassan.
02:31
Today, the letter that Judge Shahbaz has written,
02:33
before writing this letter,
02:34
Bill Mushafah had gone to former Chief Justice for a meeting.
02:38
Let's ask Judge Shahbaz,
02:40
what belief did former Chief Justice Umar Ta Bandyal have in that meeting
02:44
that today, the allegations that he is sending to the Supreme Judicial Council in the form of a letter,
02:49
will be the same as the allegations that the CJ of Islamabad High Court has sent.
02:53
It is written in the letter that he has talked to someone and made us believe.
02:57
My opinion is that the letter should be carried out on the judicial side.
03:03
The Supreme Judicial Council should also start the proceedings on this letter.
03:07
By converting it into a reference against the Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court.
03:11
And then the judges who have put allegations,
03:13
should ask for evidence that you have put allegations on your Chief Justice,
03:16
and if you have not done anything, then they should prove their allegations.
03:19
By the way, he said that he should also be the Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court.
03:23
Why didn't he do anything?
03:25
Look, Ashby, one thing is that whether you call a judge or not,
03:30
but the two judges who have recently resigned,
03:32
they should definitely be called.
03:34
They should be called and asked why they resigned.
03:37
And then the proceedings that were carried out with respect to Muzahir Naqvi,
03:40
they should be asked why they were separated from those proceedings.
03:43
And then all the X-Party proceedings were carried out against you.
03:46
Look, what you are saying that the government did this,
03:50
the Bar Councils, the Supreme Court and the government,
03:54
these are on the same page.
03:57
On the same page.
03:59
In the Supreme Court?
04:00
Definitely. You cannot see how all these things have happened.
04:04
This is on the same page. This has never been seen in the past.
04:07
The second thing, you can see the past six months.
04:10
In six months, you can see that this government somehow or other,
04:15
if a decision has been made against this government, you can tell.
04:18
So, a lot of concerns, people's…
04:20
If a decision has been made, then a decision has been made.
04:22
I am a critic of the government. I am a very big critic.
04:25
Now, a lot of things are happening legally.
04:28
Look, my personal opinion is this.
04:31
If something goes wrong, I will also say that this should have been done,
04:34
this decision should have been made.
04:36
Do you remember a case that was filed in the Supreme Court,
04:40
where you thought that the decision should have been made?
04:41
It was not the case of the level playing field.
04:43
Yes, that is right.
04:44
It was the case of the level playing field.
04:46
The case of Dhanli was filed.
04:48
It was a set up of the government.
04:50
And now, look, the same lawyer who…
04:53
I am sorry, but the Supreme Court has taken a very good silence
04:58
on the election and the political party and especially against Tariq-e-Insaaf.
05:02
Which should not have happened.
05:04
When you save the democracy, you have to save its foundation.
05:07
And elections are the foundation of that.
05:08
But they let what was happening happen.
05:10
I think they said, "See no evil, hear no evil."
05:13
The matter is that if this thing opens up more, then the PTI will get the narrative.
05:18
No, it is not about a party's narrative.
05:22
It is about what is right and what is wrong.
05:24
What is right is right, what is wrong is wrong.
05:26
Islamabad High Court Chief Justice, why did he not respond to the judges' complaints?
05:31
I think we are going ahead of the bus.
05:34
The letter written by the Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court,
05:38
the same letters which say that he has spoken somewhere.
05:42
Because this was not in the Code of Conduct.
05:45
Maybe he was also clueless as to where to go with this.
05:48
But I am sure under his…
05:50
He will answer this himself, what he did about this.
05:53
But I am sure he must have done something.
05:55
However, we should give him a chance.
05:57
We should see these proceedings.
05:59
We want to see that in this kind of judicial matters,
06:04
there is no further interference of the executive.
06:07
Our judges should not be made to be like this.
06:10
The decisions should be according to the law and the merit.
06:13
Not according to the wishes.
06:15
Sir, Islamabad High Court is also adding to this.
06:19
I request, there are two names, in fact three.
06:24
One is Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court,
06:27
the other is Chief Justice of Pakistan,
06:29
along with Justice Aijaz-ul-Ahsan.
06:31
And then Senior Punit Judge of the Supreme Court,
06:34
who is the Chief Justice today.
06:36
Let's see one by one, the first one.
06:38
In this letter, he said that he has spoken.
06:41
I am sure…
06:42
It's our matter.
06:43
I am sure he will be asked, what did you do?
06:48
Where did you go?
06:49
Who did he speak to? Did he agree or not?
06:51
Look, he is admitting that he has said this.
06:55
Then he said to the Chief Justice,
06:58
he must have also spoken somewhere,
07:01
this will be available in the Supreme Court
07:03
through the minutes of the meeting or the official correspondence.
07:07
If not available, then whoever will be the commission,
07:10
can query this from him.
07:12
And number three, as far as the current Chief Justice is concerned,
07:16
at that time, he received a judgment that no judge can take a slow-moto.
07:23
Later, it has been undue.
07:25
But it was a judgment of a five-member bench
07:29
that no judge can take a slow-moto of Chief Justice of Pakistan.
07:34
And at the time he was telling, that judgment was existing.
07:38
So maybe that's why he did something.
07:40
But all of them will be called and asked, I am pretty sure,
07:42
what happened in different circumstances?
07:44
What happened in the meeting, on which action was taken or not?
07:47
Did he speak to anyone? Did he speak to anyone?
07:49
And did anyone speak?
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