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Uncle Waffles Says 'Putting Amapiano on the Map' Is Her ‘Main Priority’ | The Green Room
Rolling Stone
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2/4/2024
The DJ from Eswatini talks repping her homeland for an episode of The Green Room at UnitedMasters Grammys event.
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(upbeat music)
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- All right, we are here with Uncle Waffles.
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Now I just need to ask, we were just talking about this,
00:17
how has LA been?
00:19
'Cause you've been here for a little minute.
00:20
- Yeah, it's been extremely hectic, but so beautiful.
00:24
I'm so happy to be involved in all the things
00:25
that I've been able to be invited to.
00:27
So yeah, it's been hectic, but worth it.
00:29
- And I know that, I'm sure as a DJ, I don't know,
00:32
but I'm sure it's really receptive to what you're feeling.
00:35
What are you excited about for tonight's performance?
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And what do you think you're gonna channel
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and bring into tonight?
00:41
- I'm excited to be doing a whole headline show
00:44
as an Amapiano act.
00:46
Putting Amapiano on the map is my main priority.
00:49
So getting to headline shows and getting to showcase piano,
00:52
very excited to see how people feel in me, you know?
00:55
- And I'm pretty sure they're gonna be feeling you.
00:56
I can already hear it.
00:57
Just like, as we're getting ready.
00:59
- Thanks.
01:00
- I know they're ready.
01:01
You did an interview with Rolling Stones' Manka Perkonte.
01:04
I think she followed you for your show in Brooklyn.
01:08
And one thing I really appreciated about that
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is that you made sure that you brought a choreographer
01:14
from South Africa to work with your dancers
01:17
who may not be as familiar with the nuances
01:19
of South African dance.
01:21
Tell me about the importance of being where you are
01:23
as a South African artist and how intentional you are
01:26
about making sure that you're representing your people
01:28
and your culture to the fullest.
01:30
- I think it's very important to,
01:32
as you're taking the sound to the world,
01:34
to teach people authentically what the sound is.
01:36
So even the dancing, very important to the sound.
01:38
So bringing Lychee was very important
01:40
because I knew that it's not people's particular pocket.
01:43
Yes, they have TikTok,
01:44
but the pocket in itself is quite difficult.
01:46
So I really wanted to make sure
01:48
that my first headline show didn't miss out on anything,
01:51
from the music to the choreography, everything was,
01:53
to the tea and representing its people well.
01:55
- So let's talk about how you are redefining
01:58
what it means to perform as a DJ.
02:00
I think it's really invigorating to watch you,
02:04
you know, like you're up there, you're feeling the crowd,
02:05
and then you say, hold up, I got a little something.
02:07
You come to the front, your dancers are with you.
02:10
What inspired you to take it a step further?
02:13
- So I realized that as we're doing more international shows,
02:17
as we're going to the world,
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people don't understand the genre.
02:19
People don't understand the words,
02:21
so they need a way to connect.
02:23
And because dance is such a forefront in piano,
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I always knew that I need to take it to another level.
02:29
As much as people don't understand the language,
02:31
people understand dance.
02:32
That's something that doesn't need to be explained to anyone.
02:34
People always get it.
02:36
I go to shows where I'm the first touch they have of piano,
02:39
and I always want to show them that there's the music,
02:41
but the music goes hand in hand with the dancing.
02:44
The dancing is extremely important.
02:45
So yeah, I discovered that if I want to keep showcasing
02:48
the sound and growing bigger as an artist also,
02:51
there needs to be a lot more performance.
02:53
- And we are thankful, okay?
02:55
I will say that much.
02:56
- And our ex.
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- I think that's how we really got to know who you are.
03:01
I think that was a lot of people's first taste
03:03
of who Uncle Waffles is.
03:05
So how did you combat that pressure
03:07
of being seen as just a viral act?
03:08
I know that it can be hard to feel that the pressure
03:12
of like, okay, and what's she gonna do next?
03:14
How did you challenge yourself to maybe either
03:18
not think about it or to think about it as fuel?
03:20
- We always thought about it.
03:21
We always wanted to make sure that there's a big moment,
03:24
but there's a big moment to skyrocket you
03:26
to doing other things.
03:27
So we always took it as this is the start.
03:30
And it's a great start.
03:32
It's a great push.
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So it was always about, okay, this is not the end.
03:36
Wake up, do it again.
03:37
Wake up, do it again.
03:38
If anything, you can go viral once,
03:40
show them you can go viral next time,
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and next time, and next time.
03:44
- In them times after that.
03:45
- Yes.
03:46
- In them times after that.
03:47
- Yes.
03:48
- We will absolutely be doing that.
03:49
- Yes.
03:49
- That's for sure.
03:51
So let's take a look at just Uncle Waffles in general.
03:54
Before the cameras were rolling,
03:56
I was asking you about some of these fashion looks
03:58
that I will absolutely be taking.
04:00
I am so sorry, I will credit you.
04:02
- Thank you.
04:02
- But I will be taking you as just a vision board
04:04
and being like, creating me.
04:06
- Thank you.
04:06
- So how does DJing fit into the entirety
04:09
in the holistic vision of who Uncle Waffles is?
04:12
- I'm a firm believer in swag.
04:13
I feel like how people see it first is very important.
04:16
Yes, I'm a performer.
04:17
I'm also a bit introverted.
04:19
So I choose to showcase myself through my style.
04:22
So I feel like, why can't I be a fashion girl and a DJ?
04:25
You know, you expect a look, a dance, performance, DJ.
04:28
Yeah, a lot of things, yeah.
04:30
- Tell me about this look tonight
04:31
and what does that say about Uncle Waffles today?
04:34
- Okay, so today, some shows I choose comfort, but style.
04:37
- Right.
04:38
- 'Cause you know, I know that I'm gonna be sweating.
04:40
I'm getting my thing on.
04:41
So this look is just a cute little look, comfortable.
04:44
Ready to dance for y'all, you know?
04:46
Got my tassels out to picardy for y'all, you know what I say?
04:49
- Yeah.
04:50
- Not the tassels shaking.
04:52
- Yes.
04:54
- Oh, that's fire.
04:55
I need to see the little leather,
04:56
little fringe, something, something.
04:58
Okay, I might need to get that too.
05:00
See, this is the problem.
05:01
Now I've just got, I'm gonna go broke.
05:04
I'm gonna go bankrupt.
05:05
- Don't worry, don't worry.
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I'm the house.
05:07
- Okay, prayer.
05:08
It's Uncle Waffles to the world.
05:10
- Thank you.
05:10
- Thank you so much for that.
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I am really appreciative of artists like you
05:14
and artists like Nia Archives
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who are really showing that women can be behind the decks
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and you can command the stage in a completely new way.
05:23
And I wanna talk about that choice
05:26
and how you feel to carry that.
05:29
And also some of the other women DJs
05:31
that you've been choosing to highlight even with Fly Radio.
05:34
- Yeah, I think it's a big responsibility,
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but I think I love seeing women take over
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'cause you know, this is a very male dominated space.
05:45
Most of the stars within the DJ space are always male.
05:47
So having stars that are female emerging,
05:50
so many females coming out,
05:51
as much as people always have something to say,
05:54
but I think they're doing absolutely amazing.
05:58
All the girls that are coming out, emerging,
06:00
yes, some are inspired by me,
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some are inspired by other people.
06:02
There's so many amazing people coming out
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and I'm really happy.
06:05
I'm very happy.
06:06
There's plenty of space for all of us to coexist.
06:08
- They always got something to say.
06:10
(laughs)
06:13
That little gasp, that said a lot for me.
06:16
- But it's all good.
06:21
Here I am today, you know?
06:23
- If y'all were listening, that was loud.
06:24
- Very.
06:25
- Okay. - Very.
06:26
- Very, very loud.
06:28
So before we get out of here,
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I really wanna take a moment to just think about
06:31
South Africa and how it shows up in your music.
06:35
And I want to know, let's just think of
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how do you think South Africa shows up
06:42
in the textures, in the sounds?
06:45
I mean, obviously, my piano is everywhere,
06:47
but I wanna know about the topography.
06:49
Give me how the things that you see
06:52
and the things that you feel show up into the sets
06:54
in the music that you create.
06:56
- So I feel like the sound in itself
06:58
is just purely South African.
07:00
From the drums, it emerges from kwaito, from house.
07:03
So it's something that has been brewing over the years.
07:05
It's a sound that's from the hood.
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So down from the music, the lock drums, the dancing,
07:10
everything is purely South African about the sound.
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There's literally nothing you can take away from it.
07:14
Like the dancing, the small dancing,
07:16
the small nuances of dancing, the chants,
07:20
everything purely South African.
07:22
- I want to go because I need to experience it
07:25
in the way that you just explained it.
07:27
- You should.
07:28
- I need it in my spirit.
07:29
- Definitely.
07:30
- What's a perfect night out in South Africa for you?
07:33
With you and your friends.
07:35
What's on the list?
07:37
- Me as Uncle Waffles?
07:39
- You as Uncle Waffles and you as--
07:41
- Just the--
07:42
- Both.
07:43
- Well, me as Uncle Waffles does not go out on this show
07:47
because I'm always tired.
07:49
- Right.
07:50
- I'm always tired.
07:51
I'm like always, like right now,
07:52
if I'd lay down a little right now, it'd be like, you know?
07:57
Yeah, but basic things I love doing,
08:00
I love going to watch a movie for me.
08:05
I love a good movie.
08:06
Going out to one of the,
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'cause so we have these chill bars
08:09
that's like opera tempo, these cool bars,
08:12
just to chill, you know?
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That's for me.
08:14
I don't do the going out anymore
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because I do it too much, you know?
08:19
- Right.
08:20
- I do it too much, yeah.
08:21
- Okay, well, maybe I'm gonna do that tonight.
08:23
All right.
08:24
So thank you so much.
08:25
- Thank you so much.
08:25
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