Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Dubai Kyun Gaye Thay?? Kya Asif Zardari Se Koi Ikhtilaf Tha??

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00:00 Zardari sir said that you are untrained and inexperienced.

00:03 Did you feel bad after hearing that?

00:05 No, I think this statement of my father was taken out of context.

00:09 But as far as the father is concerned,

00:11 the father's training of a son continues throughout their life.

00:15 And no matter how…

00:16 It may be a good comeback, but that's a bad political statement.

00:19 No matter how…

00:23 What was the disagreement with Zardari sir?

00:25 No matter how…

00:26 There is no disagreement.

00:28 You went to Dubai, there were very few assumptions.

00:30 No, no, I wanted to go to Dubai anyway.

00:32 There were assumptions, that's why I used the term assumptions.

00:34 There were assumptions, you left upset.

00:36 No, no, there was no anger.

00:38 Father…

00:40 Father also said that I can also become a minister.

00:42 Zardari sir said that I can also become a minister.

00:44 Of course, the minister can become a minister.

00:46 Obviously, now the Pakistan People's Party

00:48 and father himself has promised

00:50 that I will be the candidate for this election.

00:53 When you said that fathers should go abroad,

00:55 did Zardari sir ever say this?

00:57 No, I am not fighting elections against Zardari sir.

01:00 I am fighting a 70-year-old young man's leader.

01:05 On one hand, on the other hand,

01:07 I am fighting against the fourth or fifth or 12th prime minister,

01:11 the future prime minister, Mr. Mian.

01:13 If I don't talk about my youth,

01:17 then what should I talk about?

01:19 If I talk about 60% of our population…

01:22 But you said to Imran Khan,

01:24 untrained, if I use these words,

01:27 then it becomes 'naahel' and 'nikamma'.

01:29 These were the words you started with.

01:32 'Naalaik', 'naahel', 'naakaam', 'na jayaz bhi'.

01:37 Zardari sir's statement made it seem

01:39 that if you become the prime minister,

01:40 you will also be like this.

01:41 Untrained, inexperienced, meaning he won't be able to pull it.

01:44 No, no, I think you are again taking it out of context.

01:47 Every father…

01:48 Not a political father.

01:50 Even a political father.

01:51 Always train their sons till they are,

01:54 you know, inshallah,

01:56 for your entire life,

01:58 you are never too old for your parents.

02:02 You are always on the youngest side.

02:04 You must remember that when Mr. Mian's father was alive,

02:07 he would always go to his father and give advice.

02:11 He would give advice, but he would not say publicly,

02:13 "My son is like this."

02:14 My father has the right to say whatever he wants publicly.

02:17 I have never been against my father.

02:20 So you don't need a clean slate.

02:21 Okay, Punjab.

02:22 One question on Punjab,

02:23 then on your manifesto.

02:25 One question on my manifesto?

02:27 No, no, after that on the manifesto.

02:28 I said one question on Punjab,

02:29 then on the manifesto.

02:31 Punjab, 2008.

02:32 You took about 50 seats from Punjab.

02:35 29 seats from South Punjab, 52 seats.

02:38 23 you took from Central Punjab.

02:41 After that, the first seat in the next election,

02:43 you took from Mahmood Wali.

02:45 100 and something.

02:46 Punjab KP was wiped out.

02:49 Central North Punjab.

02:50 You didn't get a seat from Punjab.

02:52 How did you get 52 and 53 seats,

02:54 which you got from 5 and 8 seats in the last two elections?

02:57 How did you cover this gap?

02:58 What is Punjab thinking?

02:59 Why did Punjab not vote for you?

03:01 Why didn't Punjab vote for you?

03:03 Now, the whole time that was done with the Pakistan People's Party,

03:10 our leadership, you know, just my mother,

03:13 my Governor of Punjab, my ministers assassinated.

03:17 And my party was targeted in the election campaigns

03:20 to such an extent that every Pakistan People's Party candidate

03:24 was getting ISI warnings that your life is in danger.

03:29 And, God bless, there was free media in those days.

03:33 Not anymore, but then it was free.

03:35 And we had a free Supreme Court.

03:38 And that too was our free media.

03:43 The one that was doing free media with us,

03:49 the one that was doing free court with us,

03:52 in that condition, I'd like to see Khan's government last a day

03:56 or Mian's government last a day.

03:59 We not only finished our five-year term,

04:01 we had fulfilled the 30-year commitments of the Pakistan People's Party,

04:05 the missions of the martyrs,

04:07 till the 18th amendment, NFC, etc.

04:10 We had fulfilled those.

04:13 Not only against us, but against the media,

04:16 a protest was made against the Pakistan People's Party.

04:20 They cut us, they beat us.

04:22 But now I've accepted the challenge.

04:24 Sir, can I say something?

04:26 Because I cover politics in this country,

04:29 I think you've lost your popularity in Punjab.

04:31 But why?

04:32 Perceptions were made, but you didn't do anything to wrong those perceptions.

04:36 We should have done more,

04:40 but today, when you say that the environment is not clean,

04:46 or we say that it was done for someone else,

04:50 that was happening with us.

04:52 You people, or other channels,

04:55 were not ready to accept,

04:57 and you criticized us in a bad way.

05:00 Not in a small way, but in a bad way,

05:03 which created a perception that the Pakistan People's Party is not like this.

05:09 And we were not given a chance to raise our heads.

05:13 Then the operation in Karachi,

05:15 the Rangers were launched.

05:17 For two years, the Shajeel Mehman who is sitting in front of you,

05:20 was in jail.

05:22 We were not released there either.

05:24 Even during the time of Mian Sahib,

05:26 they were not painting a good perception about us.

05:30 It has an impact.

05:32 We will discuss it in another interview,

05:34 this perception, idea of People's Party,

05:36 post 2013.

05:38 I think that now,

05:40 one, the understanding of the Pakistan people has changed.

05:44 Two, I have been a member of parliament now for five years.

05:47 I have been the foreign minister of Pakistan.

05:49 The people of Pakistan know me a little more,

05:51 as opposed to before.

05:53 I have to start from somewhere.

05:55 No, it's a good start.

05:57 One good decision you have made is contesting from Lahore.

06:00 I have accepted the challenge.

06:02 And I am trying to take my ownership.

06:06 This will be my start.

06:08 Let's come to the manifesto.

06:10 It looks,

06:12 the talks that I am hearing,

06:14 that we will do electricity,

06:16 we will give 300 units for free.

06:18 See, if it is in anyone's hands,

06:20 they will immediately say, this is votes.

06:22 These are guaranteed votes.

06:24 But you know, this cannot happen.

06:26 This is a very optimistic manifesto.

06:29 Very optimistic.

06:31 We should not even dream.

06:33 I mean, I will go to America.

06:35 You are dreaming of going to the moon.

06:37 I am dreaming of taking Pakistan to the moon.

06:41 But the point is,

06:43 actually, there are two parts of my manifesto.

06:45 This is our public-economic agreement.

06:48 And then there is a more detailed manifesto overall.

06:51 Fundamentally, we have to make some very difficult decisions.

06:55 Painful decisions.

06:57 If you allow space.

06:59 Economically.

07:01 So, we have to make those difficult decisions.

07:04 We have to reduce our non-development expenditure.

07:10 And if we devolve the devolved ministries,

07:14 then you can save 300 billion rupees annually.

07:18 The subsidies we give to the energy sector,

07:22 to the fertilizer sector,

07:24 I could go on and on.

07:26 How much should we give?

07:28 1500 billion rupees annually.

07:32 Do you know the state-owned enterprises' loss?

07:34 State-owned enterprises.

07:36 1300 billion.

07:38 Will you privatize?

07:40 Will you privatize?

07:42 The Pakistan People's Party believes in public-private partnership.

07:45 But I think,

07:47 So, SOEs,

07:49 Will you privatize?

07:51 I just want to know.

07:53 Will you bring a private company?

07:55 I have achieved success with the public-private partnership.

07:58 Hospitals can especially?

08:00 Hospitals are different.

08:02 In Tharparkar, we did it through the public-private partnership.

08:04 Hospitals have some public-private,

08:06 but mostly we did it with the government.

08:09 So, we can do public-private partnership.

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