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  • 11/28/2023
What is PPP's competition with PML-N?? Analyst Hasan Ayub asks Ghumman
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00:00 So, what is the competition of People's Party with Muslim League Nawaz?
00:05 What is the competition? I am asking you. What is your assessment?
00:07 Sometimes you ask us, sometimes you ask me, sometimes you ask Chaudhary sahib.
00:09 Tell us your assessment.
00:11 My assessment is that, I will tell you an incident.
00:14 When Asif Ali Zardari sahib said that,
00:18 I am thinking that I will become the President of Pakistan.
00:21 You may remember, this was before 2008.
00:24 So, many people like us, I was a young man like you at that time.
00:28 I was a young man like you.
00:30 Pakistan People's Party, how come?
00:32 You have to vote from all four corners, from the centre.
00:36 After that, you will come and sit in the Presidency.
00:38 Okay.
00:39 So, Asif Ali Zardari sahib, I think, maybe Khakha Nabassi sahib's statement is...
00:44 My experience is that, you understand Zardari sahib's words after a long time, what he was saying.
00:49 Don't take his statements lightly.
00:56 He is still saying that, Allah's grace, Namaz, Sharif sahib,
01:00 and basically, this is what is said in the world, that everything is possible.
01:08 This is to make the impossible possible in the name of politics.
01:12 So, if you are saying that, on one side, there is a hope of PM Al-N,
01:16 and in front of that, there is a hope of People's Party,
01:18 that makes no sense.
01:19 The last two elections in Punjab, it is very clear.
01:22 This is the answer to this.
01:23 The answer is that, this is the result of the elections.
01:25 Yes, Mr. Chaudhary.
01:26 Now, the problem is that, the Pakistan People's Party is giving more than one statement,
01:31 and they are giving statements again and again, that, Allah's grace,
01:35 they do not see, respected Nawaz Sharif becoming as the fourth time Prime Minister.
01:41 This is what the respected Asif Ali Zardari sahib of People's Party,
01:45 has recently said in an interview, let's put this in front of you.
01:48 It is not that PM Al-N is leading.
01:53 So, you think that Nawaz Sharif sahib will not lead?
01:56 I think that there are other parties, individuals.
02:00 Independents?
02:02 Individuals.
02:04 Individuals?
02:05 From other parties.
02:06 Okay.
02:07 There is People's Party too.
02:09 Why do you underestimate us?
02:11 First, we gave them a chance, now it is our chance.
02:16 It is their job to give us a chance.
02:20 Okay, Mr. Chaudhary Gulamshahin, why do you underestimate us?
02:24 Hasan Ayub is not ready to be lifted, you are in Lahore, you are not ready to be lifted either.
02:28 So, regarding Mr. Zardari, you must know, Mr. Javed Khashmi,
02:32 I think, nowadays he is a known figure, do you believe him?
02:35 He is a known figure, but he is quiet.
02:36 He is quiet, I mean, it is just a side show.
02:39 He said that, in Pakistan, there is a person who has a PhD in politics,
02:45 in practical politics, his name is Asif Ali Zardari sahib.
02:48 So, why are you not taking him seriously?
02:50 No, everyone is taking him seriously, in fact, he has been taken more seriously.
02:56 He is given more importance than his weight and his political values,
03:02 because he is sitting in a mall, in a center, an interior center.
03:07 So, now, what I am trying to understand,
03:10 if those who have to face retaliatory actions, if I am not wrong,
03:15 then he is one party and one leader, he is doing it.
03:20 Apart from PTI, nothing is happening against anyone,
03:24 no one from People's Party is being arrested,
03:26 neither is there any arrest warrant, nor is there any issue with them.
03:29 And till yesterday, for 16 months, me and my brother,
03:34 I mean, with Muslim League, together, whatever they could do, they did it together.
03:41 Now, what is the problem, that People's Party is doing the most on Muslim League,
03:48 so it seems that they have done some kind of collusion with them,
03:54 or the Lala Lappa they brought, they have refused to listen to their telephone calls.
04:00 Ok viewers, now the problem is that there is another debate going on,
04:05 that in whatever election will be held, will anyone get a simple majority or not?
04:09 Shahid Khakhan Abbasi, who is still a part of Muslim League,
04:13 is saying that he will not fight the election,
04:15 he is saying that no one will get a majority in the next elections.
04:18 In my opinion, in today's politics, no party will be able to get a majority.
04:24 Ok.
04:25 In short, it is a very far-fetched thing.
04:27 Similarly, Zardari is also clear that no one is getting a majority.
04:33 172, I don't think that any party can get it singularly.
04:39 Neither PM LN can get it, nor Maulana Sahib can get it,
04:44 nor any other party can get it, nor we can get it.
04:47 If a collective government is formed, it cannot be singular.
04:53 Coalition or National Unity Government?
04:55 National Unity Government.
04:58 Is Respected Nawaz Sharif Sahib ready for this?
05:01 Because most of his leaders have said that we should get a majority first, 172,
05:06 after that we will make everyone sit with us.
05:09 If I was in Hamid Mir Sahib's place, I would have asked him,
05:12 what do you think about Sindh?
05:14 He would have said that we will have a landmark victory,
05:17 and we will get seats more than two-thirds.
05:20 So obviously, where he can see that he has no chance,
05:23 he is saying that he will have a leading role.
05:26 He is a politician, he has to say this.
05:28 How can he disheart his voters and supporters,
05:32 that the election has already been decided.
05:34 He is a very wise politician, he plays smartly,
05:40 he uses good words.
05:42 Shahid Khaka Nawaz Sahib is not taking it seriously.
05:45 Look, Shahid Sahib knows the situation.
05:48 And Shahid Sahib is supporting Muslim League Nawaz in his circle,
05:51 so he is a part of Muslim League Nawaz.
05:53 But he is also saying that no one will get a majority.
05:55 I think his calculations are wrong.

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