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Burnout Fest! 2013 Shelby GT500 and 2012 Camaro ZL1 Road Trip - HOT ROD Unlimited Episode 15
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10/5/2023
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00:00
Brand new Camaro ZL1, brand new Mustang GT500.
00:05
You've seen it before.
00:06
Pretty much everyone knows that car handles better, this one's faster in a straight line.
00:10
So we're not going to bother with that test.
00:12
Instead, we're a couple of muscle car guys, we're just going to find out which car's playing
00:16
more fun.
00:17
We're taking a road trip to Speed World Drag Strip in Arizona, which is at risk of closing,
00:22
and that can't happen.
00:23
So we're going to drag race these cars there and be really irresponsible along the way.
00:37
We're just installing radar detectors because the company doesn't pay for speeding tickets,
00:41
or bail.
00:42
In the patent, it just says, "Plug in a cigarette lighter, drive like a jerk."
00:56
Wow.
00:58
I've never had a radar detector before.
01:00
Ford conveniently put this 12-volt power outlet right in the middle of the dash to plug in
01:05
your radar detector.
01:06
I think they knew.
01:08
So my favorite thing about the Camaro, probably, from the driver's perspective, is the heads-up
01:13
display.
01:14
That's just cool.
01:16
Because some of these gauges, like the ones down here on the console, are completely useless.
01:21
Last thing I'm going to do at 160, 70, 80 miles an hour is look down to see how much
01:25
boost this thing's making.
01:27
But at least the heads-up display will tell me how fast I'm going right before I die.
01:31
It's good info.
01:33
I actually like the interior in the Mustang much better.
01:35
I can see the dash, which is a big problem for me in the Camaro.
01:39
The factory Recaro seats are awesome, and I really like the vintage '69-looking stitch
01:45
pattern on them.
01:47
The dashboard looks almost like a '67 or '8.
01:50
The steering wheel's cool.
01:51
I like that the bottom of it's flat, kind of racy.
01:53
It makes it easy to get in and out of the car.
01:55
Shift knob's cool.
01:57
This feels less plasticky than some of the other new cars I've been in.
02:00
If you're going to drop this much money on a car, it shouldn't feel like plastic.
02:04
It should caress you in soft, supple leather.
02:07
Or suede.
02:11
The shifter, however, fairly sub-average.
02:13
I have a hard time bang-shifting this thing.
02:16
It's notchy, like right before gear engagement.
02:18
It's almost like there's two motions to get in every gear.
02:22
It bugs me.
02:23
Fuel economy.
02:24
Why?
02:25
You know, it's interesting there's this big battle over which of these cars has better
02:30
top speed.
02:31
I know all the Ford guys are saying this Mustang runs 200 factory stock.
02:35
The thing is, there's really no place you can do that.
02:39
It takes like five miles, something like that, to get one of these things up to speed.
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Up to 200.
02:47
That's high risk of both death and arrest.
02:51
Like high risk.
02:52
So we're basically fiddling around with what they're like to drive on the street.
02:56
Drag strip.
02:57
Having fun.
02:58
Sliding around.
02:59
Doing burnouts.
03:00
Let's be professionals about this.
03:08
Professionals about this?
03:09
There's no part of this show that's professional.
03:10
I was hoping you'd tell me how to act like one.
03:12
Okay.
03:13
Well, act like a guy trying to find out which one of these cars sounds better.
03:16
Alright.
03:17
Okay.
03:18
I have a feeling we're going to get real used to this scenario.
03:45
Gas station.
03:48
I'm prepared for science.
03:51
We have the three basic styles of road trip cups.
03:54
You have your 44 ouncer, your 32, and your tapered 44, or 32 or whatever that is.
04:01
And the thing about these cars is that the cup holder's in the console and it always
04:04
either isn't big enough or it hits your arm while you're shifting.
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Or it won't hold it.
04:09
Okay, there's actually two different diameters of cup holders in the Mustang.
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And I have to say it's doing a mighty fine job of holding the tapered cup.
04:18
Here, hand me the bladder buster.
04:20
I sense a fail coming on.
04:21
Yeah, I'm going to call this acceptable.
04:24
That's good.
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Now let's go with the full on 44 ouncer.
04:27
It does fit in the rear cup holder.
04:29
So the only next challenge is whether you can bang shift with that in there or not.
04:33
Okay, moving on to the Camaro.
04:34
We'll start easy.
04:35
Oh, it also has two different diameters, except for in this case, the large one's in the front.
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Okay.
04:42
That's looking pretty good.
04:43
That's looking pretty good.
04:44
Although you will note, there is no chance you would fit two of these in the car.
04:48
That's something we need to check on the Mustang.
04:49
If you have a buddy with you, that's not going to work.
04:52
See, you try and get this in there and that's just, that's not cool.
04:55
The medium fits in.
04:56
Now let's go for the bladder buster.
04:58
Nope.
04:59
Fail.
05:00
Camaro is fail on bladder buster.
05:03
All right.
05:04
Well, all that's left is the bang shift test.
05:08
Oh, you missed the second.
05:16
Oh, that was bad.
05:20
Okay, cup holder test, fail.
05:26
Suede seats are not going to be that good.
05:33
I didn't mangle my cup, but I did miss second in a horrible way.
05:36
Yuck.
05:37
So, I guess the conclusion there is that you can drive these things with the cups in it
05:43
as long as you don't want to be a hot rodder.
05:45
I'm not a greedy guy.
06:08
I don't ask for a lot.
06:09
All I wanted to do was go drag racing tonight.
06:11
I know.
06:12
But we made it.
06:13
We're going to Speed World.
06:14
Made it just in time for the rain.
06:15
Yeah, I made it just in time for the killer thunderstorm, which isn't happening right
06:22
now, but it got wet enough that they had to shut down the track for the night.
06:26
So, we're not going to be able to run the Camaro and the Mustang.
06:29
But we're having fun anyway.
06:30
We'll figure out something to do.
06:36
Just kidding.
06:37
We're going racing.
06:38
It is the next day.
06:39
It is not thunderstorming.
06:41
And the bitchin' guys here at Speed World opened up the track on a special deal so that
06:44
we could make some laps.
06:45
We're putting on drag radials.
06:46
We got these killer Mickey Thompsons and Ford Racing sent us some wheels for the Mustang.
06:50
We got some used wheels for the ZL1.
06:52
We're going to have sticky meats.
06:54
Hook these things up.
06:57
So, competition to see who can drive them quicker, right?
07:00
You're going down.
07:01
Okay.
07:02
I bank gears like nobody.
07:03
I do too.
07:04
I just miss them when I'm driving the Mustang.
07:06
That's a problem.
07:07
These are going to heat, soak, and slow down.
07:08
So whoever drives each car first is going to win.
07:11
So who's going to drive what first?
07:12
You miss gears in the GT500 and the Camaro's probably slower.
07:16
So let's just rock, paper, scissors.
07:18
Okay.
07:19
Rock, paper, scissors.
07:20
Smash!
07:21
Mustang!
07:22
Okay.
07:23
First drag race with Freiburger.
07:24
154 degree inlet air temp.
07:26
Not good.
07:27
None of that matters if you can't find second gear, dude.
07:29
I might not ever find second gear in this thing.
07:31
I hope for your sake you have some sort of strategy.
07:34
I'm not going to get fancy until I can figure out where the second gear is on this little
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doohickey in the console here.
07:40
I don't blame you.
07:42
Loser buys dinner.
07:45
And I'd like a steak.
07:46
Thank you.
07:47
I'm going to win.
08:12
And that's what happens when you forget to turn the launch control on.
08:29
You lose, punk ass, and you're buying dinner.
08:31
Woohoo!
08:32
Oh no, that's by average at the end of the day.
08:35
That's not this one path.
08:36
Oh no, that was that one path.
08:38
You lose, you're buying dinner.
08:40
Woohoo!
08:41
You're a cheating SOB.
08:42
You went red by almost three tenths of a second.
08:44
That's a test day.
08:46
That's why God invented Christmas trees, to keep guys from leaving early.
08:48
Yeah, see the RPM limit on the launch control does not work.
08:52
A 2360 foot and a 20 for you.
08:55
Here's what sucks is I kicked your ass all the way to a thousand feet and then had to
08:59
shift into fourth right before the lights and that's when you catch me.
09:02
If I didn't have to shift one more time down there, I'd be winning by a lot.
09:07
Seriously.
09:08
If you're 1269 and you're walking around cocky, 1270 and I'm even arguing with you?
09:12
That's what guys who come in second say to themselves to make themselves feel better.
09:16
So you're winning!
09:17
So you're plenty proud of your 1269 out of that 11 second car.
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Oh, hell yeah.
09:21
I keep looking at the inlet air temperature, which this tells you on the dash, it's 160
09:26
degrees when I leave the starting line.
09:28
Blowers don't like that.
09:30
This thing's not making power.
09:31
I didn't know Africa was this sticky.
09:59
It's pretty sticky.
10:01
Explain to me why it's this sticky and we couldn't make either car hook up.
10:04
Well, it's a matter of physics.
10:06
It's 150 degree track temperature is part of the problem.
10:09
Physics.
10:10
And it was 113 degrees out and making no power.
10:12
Physics.
10:13
Yeah, so essentially we're disappointed in our performance at the drag strip, but I think
10:17
Finnegan's got to be more disappointed than I am because I did run the lowest ET, the
10:22
highest mile an hour and had the best reaction time.
10:24
So I win.
10:26
Which car were you in?
10:27
The lighter one with the more horsepower?
10:28
We both drove both of them, right?
10:30
That was it.
10:31
We both drove both.
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You made 87 laps in the Mustang and right at the end went, here, this thing's heat soaked,
10:35
make one or two.
10:36
Well, but it didn't matter how many laps you made when you miss every gear on every pass.
10:40
You know, he misses first.
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It's so bad.
10:46
You got nothing.
10:47
I'm sore.
10:48
You got nothing.
10:49
I'm sore.
10:50
Yeah, we proved it.
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You're a Camaro driver.
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Oh yeah.
10:53
That's what we proved.
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I kick ass in the Camaro.
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You're okay in the Mustang.
10:57
So bottom line, the cars are way slower than they should have been because of track conditions.
11:02
We ran 12.44 in the Mustang and 12.69 in the Camaro.
11:06
Okay, so that's roughly what, eight tenths slower than either one of them should be?
11:10
Yeah, I've been three tenths faster in that Mustang than we went today.
11:15
But dude, it's 105 degrees out.
11:17
So now we make our own fun on the way home, right?
11:20
Burnouts and donuts.
11:21
Donuts.
11:22
If I don't blow out a flip flop on the way out of here.
11:23
Good luck with that.
11:24
All right.
11:24
Hey, we lived.
11:53
We didn't get arrested, even though your cloud of Goodyear smoke is still hanging over
11:58
Arizona someplace.
11:59
These cars should have come with respirators.
12:01
That's all I'm saying, dude.
12:03
They're good at making smoke.
12:04
That's what they're both really good for.
12:05
So overall, you're still taking the Camaro?
12:07
Oh yeah.
12:08
I'm taking it home right now, actually.
12:10
Okay.
12:11
He's a Camaro guy, I'm a Mustang guy.
12:12
We have one more day with this car.
12:13
I'm driving it home.
12:14
It's hard to look out at my Super B and go, "Oh yeah, that's when muscle cars were great."
12:17
It's like, man.
12:18
No, muscle cars are really good right now.
12:20
Yeah.
12:21
Really, really good.
12:22
They're not going to win this unless they put more power in a mixture.
12:25
So basically you can't lose.
12:26
You buy the red car and you win.
12:28
Yes.
12:28
Yes.
12:29
Yes.
12:29
Yes.
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