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00:00She's on a show about women who are loose, and she uses enemas to clean out her caboose.
00:08It's Watch What Happens Live with Shannon Storms, the door, and Denise Welsh now.
00:24Hey, everybody.
00:25Welcome to Watch What Happens Live.
00:26And I'm your host, Andy Cohen, live in the Bravo Clubhouse on a Thursday night.
00:30We are live in New York City, the greatest city in the world, with Real Housewife of Orange County, Shannon Storms.
00:39Loose Women does not describe the very tightly wound Shannon and Katie in tonight's Orange County,
00:44but it is the title of my next guest talk show in the U.K.
00:48It's The View, but in the U.K., and it's great.
00:52And I was a guest on Loose Women, and I promised her she could come on because she is a huge Bravo fan.
00:59You can stream Loose Women weekdays on ITVX.
01:03Give it up for host, actress, and Bravo superfan Denise Welsh.
01:06Hey, Denise.
01:07Great to see you.
01:10So glad you're here.
01:11We're going to get into it tonight.
01:12I want to start by saying hi to Shannon's daughters, Sophie and Adeline.
01:18Big night.
01:20Adeline is finally 21, so she can join us in the studio.
01:24It's night in the chairs.
01:25Yes.
01:25So congratulations.
01:27Hey, folks, do me a favor.
01:29Grab your phone and fire up www.hl.tv because we have a lot of polls coming your way in just a second.
01:36Don't forget to tweet me your questions at Andy for Shannon and Denise all night long.
01:42I want to get into tonight's Orange County.
01:44Shannon, do you want to hear the number one question for you?
01:49Yes.
01:51Why does it matter that Katie showed Alexis one of your meltdowns when you have meltdowns every season on national television?
01:58Okay.
01:58Well, let's look at last season.
02:00And the only time I got upset was when I rightfully had the reason to.
02:04There were no meltdowns.
02:06I was very calm.
02:07Shannon.
02:09Last year?
02:10Last season on the show?
02:11Like, at London, I left, but I didn't say the usual, you know, all that kind of stuff that I used to do.
02:17I mean, I think that I'm a lot less reactive.
02:20Okay.
02:20And for all these girls to keep saying, I didn't have a meltdown that day, so let's just get the facts straight.
02:26But the bottom line is, Andy, it doesn't matter what I did.
02:30It is in the state of California against the law to tape record someone in any capacity without their consent.
02:37There you go.
02:37So it doesn't matter what I did.
02:39All right, viewers.
02:40Guess what, folks?
02:41It is time to...
02:42Work the ball!
02:45Here we go, America.
02:47Things ended very poorly between them tonight.
02:49Tell us whose side are you on, Shannon's or Katie's?
02:52Denise Welsh, whose side are you on?
02:54Well, I'll be honest.
02:56Initially, when I...
02:57Oh, God, look at the way Shannon's looking.
02:59I'll be honest.
03:00Initially, I did think that you had given other people more grace over the years,
03:05but the bit that got me was when Katie still said, I did not let Alexis see.
03:11And I listened to a podcast today, got the receipts, and she did.
03:15She went to lunch, and she sat there, and she showed it to Alexis.
03:18So now I am totally team Shannon.
03:20Guess what?
03:21So is America.
03:22America, 82%.
03:24All right, stay on www.hl.tv for the next poll.
03:29Is Katie secretly recording Shannon a forgivable friendship offense?
03:34Yes or no?
03:35Denise, should Shannon forgive her?
03:37I think there is so much to...
03:40You're always talking, you guys, about moving forward,
03:43and I do think that you have moved forward with people who have maybe done worse than Katie did.
03:49So I think that the friendship you had before is maybe worth saving, maybe.
03:54Well, the issue that I have is that there is zero good intention when you secretly record someone.
03:59There is no positive explanation for doing that.
04:03The audience says it is not a forgivable offense.
04:07There you go.
04:07Since Shannon put them in the same category tonight, who's worse, Jon Janssen or Katie Janela?
04:14Who's worse, Denise Welsh?
04:16Well, well, I mean, looking at your face...
04:20Jon Janssen.
04:23Okay, all right, the audience is agreeing.
04:26Very good.
04:26Thank you very much.
04:28I may have recanted that and said there's a little bit more equal.
04:34Okay.
04:35Now vote on this hard-hitting question.
04:37Should Shannon have gone back for her grilled cheese?
04:40Yes or no?
04:40I never leave a grilled cheese behind, Shannon.
04:42I went and got a new one.
04:44Oh, you got a new one?
04:45Absolutely.
04:45Oh, okay, very good.
04:46I did think that was a great line, though, I have to say, from Katie.
04:50Oh, which was?
04:51Oh, she said she left her grilled cheese.
04:53Just really sort of torn you a new one, and somebody just said she left her grilled cheese.
04:57Yes.
04:57I thought that was good.
04:58The audience says, yeah, she should have.
05:01And we got you.
05:03Guess what?
05:04We did bring you a grilled cheese tonight, Shannon, just to nosh on during the show.
05:10And it's from Westville around the corner.
05:12This is a great grilled cheese.
05:14Love Westville.
05:14Just so you know, we love Westville.
05:16Since we saw two out of three of them on OC tonight,
05:18of the Love Hotel guys, who is the best match for Shannon?
05:22Earl, Adam, Phil, or none of them.
05:26What happened with Earl?
05:27Yeah.
05:28It didn't work out.
05:29Yeah, to say the least.
05:30Yeah.
05:30Like, yeah.
05:31And I tried.
05:32I really did try.
05:33Should have ended earlier.
05:34But Adam and Phil, we're all just friends.
05:37And I'm friends with even more of the men, too.
05:39No neck up, even.
05:41No.
05:41Oh, okay.
05:42No.
05:42Okay.
05:43The audience is saying none of them.
05:45Okay.
05:46Next, based on the evidence that's been provided by both parties,
05:49whose side are you on, Gretchen or Tamara's?
05:51This is kind of an age-old thing here.
05:54Gretchen.
05:55You're on Gretchen's side.
05:56Why?
05:56Straight away.
05:57Yes, straight away.
05:58Why?
05:59Because if I was going to put, which is maybe answering another question,
06:03but if I was going to put any housewife on pause permanently,
06:07it would be Tamara Jones.
06:08Okay.
06:09All right.
06:10The audience is agreeing with you there.
06:13Our final poll is, could Katie win you over with an expensive scalp treatment?
06:18Yes or no?
06:19How much is the scalp treatment?
06:21I don't know.
06:21An expensive scalp treatment?
06:22But I recently just had extensions put in by Julia,
06:25so I don't want the scalp treatment.
06:26Oh, okay.
06:27Denise, could you be won over by an expensive scalp treatment?
06:30It depends who's doing it, but yes, for sure.
06:33Okay.
06:34Denise could.
06:34The audience is saying no.
06:36Thank you very much for voting, everybody.
06:38Wow.
06:40To all our current or future parents,
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06:53Dina Margolin and Christine Galant.
06:55You look so great.
06:57We have a baby in the house.
06:59Any day now.
07:00Any day now.
07:01Wow.
07:03Love a baby behind the bar.
07:05Denise has been part of Loose Women for years,
07:07but I hope this Watch What Happens Live version
07:09will have loose lips tonight.
07:10As I pepper her with questions,
07:12it's a Clubhouse Quickie Bravo edition.
07:15What show or episodes do you tell your friends to watch
07:18if they're not hooked on Bravo yet?
07:20Okay.
07:20I think episode-wise,
07:22it would be Beverly Hills Amsterdam
07:24talking about the husband with Rina.
07:27Yes.
07:28I think that would be the episode.
07:30Franchise-wise,
07:30because they wouldn't have like a million seasons
07:33and it came in strong and continues as Salt Lake City.
07:36Okay.
07:36Who is one housewife that you would love to see
07:39make a triumphant return someday?
07:42Unpopular decision with some people I know
07:44from this universe,
07:46but probably Lisa Vanderpump.
07:48Okay.
07:48I don't know how unpopular it is.
07:50If you had the power to put one current housewife
07:52on pause,
07:53you already said who that would be.
07:54It would be two, maybe.
07:55Okay.
07:55It would be definitely Tamara Judge.
07:57Okay.
07:58Because I think,
07:59well, you didn't ask the reason,
08:00but I'll tell you anyway.
08:02It's because I think that what us Bravo superfans love
08:06is these intelligent and funny women
08:09across all franchises,
08:10and you are funnier than Katie.
08:11You're very kind.
08:12Across all the franchises,
08:14and I think that one of the best things about it
08:16is the shade and the funny lines.
08:19But when that shade turns to meanness and nastiness...
08:22You don't like it.
08:23I don't like it.
08:24Okay.
08:24So it would be her and also Jennifer Aiden.
08:26Okay.
08:26All right.
08:31If you were to charter a below-deck yacht,
08:33who would you want to helm as your captain?
08:35Okay.
08:36It would be Captain Jason,
08:37because he's so fit,
08:38and Captain Lee,
08:39because I love him,
08:40and Daisy would be the...
08:42Okay.
08:43Last question.
08:44Most frustrated you've been
08:45watching a Housewives reunion?
08:47Okay.
08:48That would be New Jersey
08:49with the Bo Diddley guy.
08:52Yes.
08:53Yes.
08:53Bo Diddle.
08:54Because Bo Diddley is here.
08:55Thank you very much,
08:56and I was very frustrated, too.
08:59At Heather's party,
09:00Shannon brought Phil as her plus one,
09:02but then was minus one grilled cheese.
09:04We rectified that after storming out.
09:06As we dish out more sandwiches tonight,
09:08Shannon has to dish on the OC Ladies
09:10and grill them.
09:11Shannon, for each pal that pops up,
09:13grill them with the one question.
09:15You are currently dying to ask them,
09:17starting with...
09:19Katie, what's one question?
09:21Uh, what's wrong with you?
09:24Okay.
09:25Next up is Tamara.
09:28That's a terrible picture of Tamara on a grilled cheese.
09:30Well, that's what her cast photo looks like.
09:32Oh, okay.
09:34Okay.
09:35What would you ask her?
09:36Um, I, you know,
09:37you don't surprise me anymore,
09:41so why,
09:42but why do you keep doing what you're doing?
09:43Okay, next up is...
09:45Heather.
09:46Um, did you have fun with me the other day?
09:50Okay.
09:50Filming the after show.
09:51Okay.
09:52Next up is...
09:54Jen.
09:55Jen, when are you getting married?
09:57Okay.
09:58Next up is Emily.
10:01Um, question.
10:02I...
10:04She was supposed to call me.
10:05I wish you would...
10:06Why didn't you call me?
10:07Okay, okay.
10:08For some legal advice.
10:09Oh, okay.
10:10Uh, Gina.
10:11Gina, I want to say statements, not questions.
10:13Okay.
10:13Are you having an amazing time living with Travis again?
10:18Okay.
10:18Next up is...
10:20Gretchen.
10:21Gretchen, are you happy with being back on season 19?
10:26Okay.
10:28You, you don't like this game.
10:30I mean, you're, you're, I feel tension with you.
10:32I could have...
10:33This is not a tense game.
10:35I mean, I could have...
10:35I could have come up with funnier things had I known ahead.
10:38Oh.
10:38This is off the cuff.
10:39Oh, okay.
10:40We didn't brief you as well.
10:41No.
10:41You're complaining that we didn't brief you.
10:43Yeah.
10:44Okay.
10:45All right.
10:45Okay, we'll...
10:46Guess what?
10:47Well, the good news is we have a commercial break so we can talk all about it.
10:50Coming up, more with Shannon and Denise.
10:52Here she's coming by next week.
10:54Don't go anywhere.
10:54Orange County.
10:56Orange County.
10:57I'm safe.
11:00Orange County.
11:02I'm safe.
11:07Andy, you're so shady.
11:10Andy, you're so shady.
11:11All right.
11:12Welcome back to Watch It Another Time.
11:13I'm Andy Cohen.
11:14Live in the Bravo Clubhouse with Shannon Storrs.
11:16Medora from The Real House.
11:17I'm in front of you.
11:18And Denise Welch from Loose Women.
11:20You can stream new episodes weekdays on ITVX.
11:24It's like The View, but with Brits, and it's great.
11:26And not as political.
11:28Not as political.
11:29Yes.
11:29But God bless The View for what they're doing.
11:31Over at the bar, it's Dina and Kristen from Big Little Feelings, the largest online parenting
11:36resource and community.
11:38Head to BigLittleFeelings.com for more info.
11:40They've been so helpful to me.
11:42You guys are amazing.
11:43I love you.
11:43Drinking and reminder, if you're 21 or over, anytime you hear this word, take as many shots
11:48as Shannon did before hitting the damn gong.
11:51Let's take questions from our fans.
11:52In studio, it's Danielle from New Jersey with a question for Shannon.
11:55Hi, Danielle.
11:56Hi, everyone.
11:57Hey.
11:57Great color, Shannon.
11:59My question is, do you feel like Tamara waited to share the information about Katie sending
12:05the video to Alexis to get you on her side in her beef with Katie?
12:09I mean, it's always a possibility because it's not the first time that she's held information
12:14in.
12:14So I really don't know the answer to that.
12:16All right.
12:17Now let's go to some virtual fans.
12:19Liz and Garrett from New York City with a question for Denise.
12:22Hi there.
12:23Hi.
12:24Hi, guys.
12:24Hi, Andy.
12:25Hi, ladies.
12:26Y'all look great tonight.
12:29My question is for Denise.
12:31Do you still stand by your tweet from last year in which you said that Louis is the most
12:37cringe-inducing husband in the history of the Housewives franchise?
12:42Therese's Louis?
12:43Yes.
12:44Mm-hmm.
12:45I absolutely, I forgot that I tweeted that, but I absolutely think that he is a complete
12:52cringe fest.
12:54All right.
12:55Thank you very much.
12:57Denise, Lisa F. said, if you were a real housewife, what would your tagline be?
13:02Okay.
13:03It would be, because obviously I have thought of this.
13:06Okay.
13:08It would be, I don't need, I don't need a knight in shining armor.
13:14I'm a British queen.
13:15I can fix my own crown.
13:17I can fix my own crown.
13:18Oh, yeah!
13:21Oh!
13:26Shannon Wine by Wives wants to know, how is Katie Pure Evil for filming you when you and
13:31Heather filmed Kelly's breakdown in season 11?
13:35Wow.
13:35Where was that?
13:36Okay, well.
13:37Ireland?
13:37Okay, well, in Ireland, and that might be a topic later on in this season, in Ireland,
13:42we were told.
13:43You were filming at producer camp for the show, right?
13:45Right.
13:45If anything happens, pull out your iPhone so that we can capture it all.
13:49That's what I, yes.
13:49We were doing our job.
13:50Yes, okay.
13:51Any reactions to Slade's broken dick?
13:56I don't really know much about his broken dick.
13:59Okay.
14:00Nor do I care to, but thank you for asking.
14:02Okay, you're welcome.
14:04You are welcome.
14:09Denise, your son is the great Matty Healy.
14:12He is.
14:13Yes.
14:14Would you have a reaction?
14:15On that topic, Miss Swift wrote a whole album about their relationship, Tortured Poets Department.
14:23What was your reaction to that album?
14:26Obviously, on Pain of Death, can I talk about that episode?
14:30But not being her mother-in-law is a role that I'm glad that I lost.
14:34Not that I have anything against her at all.
14:38Okay.
14:38It was just, you know, it was tricky, but she, listen, you're not allowed to say anything,
14:46and then she writes a whole album, you know, about it.
14:50But Matty has taken it all in completely good grace.
14:52He's very happy with his amazing fiancée, Gabriella, Gabrielle, who is gorgeous.
14:58And so we've moved on.
15:00There you go.
15:01Well, Katie's ears might still be ringing after getting an earful from Shannon tonight
15:05during their explosive conversation that, for the record, was definitely being recorded.
15:10And since we have quite a few similar situations in the Bravo archives, it's time to play...
15:15Who's Shannon yelling at?
15:18Okay, Denise, for each photo of Shannon I show you, simply guess who Shannon is pissed at
15:23before she reveals.
15:24These are prior seasons.
15:25Yes.
15:26Okay.
15:26Yes.
15:27Okay.
15:27Okay.
15:27Okay.
15:28Who is Shannon yelling at here?
15:31Um, uh, oh, God.
15:36Would it have been Kelly Dodd or are we not that far back?
15:39It would.
15:40It was you!
15:42It was you!
15:44Who's Shannon yelling at here?
15:48Well, I mean, Tamara?
15:51Kelly.
15:52Oh, Vicky.
15:53Vicky.
15:54That was calling her despicable.
15:56Who's Shannon yelling at here?
15:58Is that in The Quiet Woman?
16:02No.
16:02Is that...
16:02No.
16:03Um, I'm gonna go Tamara, because it was Vicky before.
16:06It is Megan.
16:08She starts charities.
16:09Oh, I thought about...
16:09I thought about...
16:10Yes.
16:10I start charities.
16:11Yes.
16:11Who's Shannon yelling at here?
16:16John Johnson?
16:19I don't know.
16:20Heather.
16:20Oh, right before she was asked to...
16:23She was a victim.
16:24Yes.
16:24Who is Shannon reprimanding here?
16:28Um, Emily?
16:30Lydia.
16:30Uh, for calling Shannon a lost soul.
16:33Who is Shannon yelling at here?
16:35Oh.
16:36Kelly Dodd, Quiet Woman.
16:37Yes, yes, yes.
16:38Very good.
16:39Um, who is Shannon yelling at here?
16:45The thing is, you don't look any different in any of the scenes.
16:48Well, I look a little heavy there.
16:49Well, um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go Emily.
16:52Uh, Gina.
16:54Oh.
16:54Okay.
16:55Last up, who is Shannon yelling at here?
17:00Oh.
17:00Oh.
17:01Good.
17:02Um.
17:04It's definitely all on this season.
17:06It's not an Earl, because that looked like an Earl face from Love.
17:08That is.
17:09Good job.
17:10Wow.
17:11Earl to Pearl for not liking that story.
17:14Very good.
17:15Oh, we have one more.
17:16We have one more.
17:17Who is Shannon yelling at here?
17:19In a hotel room.
17:23Um, yeah.
17:25That, that was kind of a group when they were talking about.
17:26Yes, it was.
17:27Tamara, Kelly, and Vicky.
17:29Very good.
17:29Yeah.
17:29Yeah.
17:29All right.
17:30Well done, Denise.
17:32After the break, we have more with these two.
17:34And my message is that we're gonna be right back.
17:36Welcome back to What's It Other Time.
17:52I'm Andy, here with Shannon, Denise, and Dina, and Kristen behind the bar.
17:59Denise, Jasmine M. wants to know the current opinion that the UK general public has of Prince
18:03Harry and Meghan Markle.
18:05Can you speak on behalf of your fellow countrymen?
18:08Well, I have a very different view to a lot of people.
18:12And on this show that I do at Home Loose Women, I'm like the only person who flies the Harry
18:16and Meghan flag.
18:17And I don't know them.
18:17I've met a few of the royals over the years, but I've never met them.
18:21But I just think that the amount of bullying by the press, British and American, that that
18:28woman gets, remember, she was in those rooms, a lot of them, you know, as a young black American
18:35woman.
18:35She was, she had a big voice in UNICEF and in the United Nations.
18:39She was in a lot of those rooms before Harry.
18:42And I just kind of try to fly the flag a bit.
18:44You've got to remember that this is a boy who was, you know, was forced at 12 years old
18:49to walk behind his mother's coffin.
18:51You know, his dad had been unfaithful and he grew up in that world.
18:58And I think for him to want to say his piece is something quite admirable.
19:05And so I kind of think that they're in love.
19:07He's never been unfaithful to her.
19:09You know, the abuse she got for saying that she was mentally ill.
19:12I suffered severe postnatal depression, hospitalized after I had Matthew.
19:16So I really empathize and sympathize with somebody who was open about that.
19:19And she got ridiculed and hated.
19:21It's like, what has she really done?
19:23Right, right.
19:23You know, and every, every single day she is battered.
19:28So I just.
19:30Good answer.
19:31Good answer.
19:35Wow.
19:36Very good.
19:38Okay.
19:38It is time for my mazel of the day.
19:40It goes to Michael Patrick King, the great Michael Patrick King, for having the good sense
19:45to bring back the most beloved character in the Sex and the City canon.
19:49The shoe salesman from season six, played by yours truly.
19:55And this time, tonight on And Just Like That, they gave him a name.
20:01Hey, Carrie, I am slammed.
20:02I'm going to be right with you.
20:03Oh, thanks.
20:04I'm just looking today, Daniel.
20:06Now, when asked if my other character, shirtless gay guy from season four,
20:13could also return for another appearance.
20:16All I got from Michael Patrick King was this note.
20:23Anyway, tonight's shackle goes to the fact that a Chuck E. Cheese mascot in Florida was
20:29arrested for alleged credit card fraud in full costume during a children's birthday party.
20:36As Mr. Cheese was taken away by authorities, he could be heard saying this.
20:41I'm being nailed to the cross like Jesus was.
20:43You did nothing wrong.
20:45I want to thank Shannon, Denise, Dina, and Kristen for being here.
20:52Sophie and Adelaide, thank you so much.
20:55For the word of the night was Katie.
20:57We said it 13 times if you've been playing our drinking game, no driving.
21:01Sunday night, Kristen Johnson and Leanne Morgan will be here after Kingsport.
21:05Watch our after show on Facebook Live.
21:07Have a great weekend, everybody.
21:09Thank you, Shannon.
21:09And thank you, Denise.
21:11What fun that was.
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