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00:00in order to destroy our people you got to take away their humanity it was not all the storm
00:13they didn't care whatsoever about getting us out of here because it should never have taken that
00:22long but they were more worried about something else I hate to say it can't protect our property
00:30and I don't understand why they're not being even harder when law enforcement is present order is
00:35expected without it terror and mayhem can ensue I need reinforcements I need troops man thousands
00:45of newly arrived guardsmen have been ordered to take the city back from armed looters they
00:51said that New Orleans was out of control ruled by thugs when they came down there that's all
00:58they found is some hard-working God-fearing people that just happened to be poor is martial law in
01:06effect there I don't know why that isn't in effect well martial law something to shoot leaders on
01:11site states Congress well the martial law comes from the United States Congress it is a complicated
01:16process would you request martial law I've already called for martial law in the city of New Orleans
01:23the breaking news of this hour the mayor of New Orleans redeploying 1500 city police tonight he says
01:41taking them off the search for survivors putting them instead on the search for looters
01:46I was in the Hyatt Hotel along with the rest of the executive staff of the mayor it was at that point
01:56that police chief compass came into the room where the mayor and I were he said I've got a problem so
02:04the room cleared out and the police chief said last night one of our officers was just shot in the
02:11head New Orleans police officer Kevin Thomas stopped four suspicious men at the Chevron in the city's West
02:17Bank three cooperated but when he went to frisk the fourth a bullet from a 45 ripped through his head
02:24this savage attack that almost took his life you had situation where people are actually shooting at
02:30the police whether in the case of Kevin Thomas where he actually got shot in the head chief compass knew
02:37the officer and he became very emotional that's when the mayor responded to the police chief and said you
02:45do whatever you need to do to get this back under control tonight in a rare move practically unheard of in
02:54the United States martial law declare I told my officers the rules of engagement are still in effect we are
03:03not shooting looters I am not condoned in the use of deadly force except if your life is in danger I was
03:12adamant about that but of one man in one place this was a citywide disaster you know and I couldn't be in the
03:22minds of 1300 police I still say today we didn't have a crime problem during Katrina we had an
03:30evacuation problem we had a command and control issue we had logistics issues we had transportation
03:35issues to get people out as quick as we could but it wasn't a crime problem but boy we got a lot of
03:41troops and police on the street we are ready nobody's gonna loot this town when you got all these old
03:48people in the building over here fucking died hello there are still an awful lot of problems on the
03:55ground there are still perhaps thousands of people who are trapped in flooded homes rescue workers have
04:00to get out and they have to get to them and bring them back because by this point they've got to be
04:04running out of food and water good morning critical hours ahead in New Orleans rescue teams getting back
04:13to work in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina they're trying to save people trapped in their homes since
04:17the storm hit it was all about life-saving that's it to know that you are actually the exact right
04:28person for the job and that you have the perfect training for it it means it's go time but we started
04:37to hear that civilians were shooting at the helicopters so we were in the middle of hoisting a bunch of
04:46people and we only had like six people in the helicopter and they just dropped the bare hook without a
04:52rescue device so I knew that was just for me so I clipped in and went up and then they just shut the door and
04:59I was like what's going on like we hit we got a basically an empty plane and uh they're like a
05:04helicopter crashed and I was like oh my god the story was that there was a SWAT police van that had
05:12been taken over by civilians and that they were shooting at the helicopters they stopped all rescue
05:19operations and everybody had to land at the Coast Guard air station
05:23I got in the call from the White House and said the boss want to know are there snipers in New Orleans
05:32because if they are he would airdrop the 82nd Airborne in I said there's no snipers in New Orleans
05:38what people are doing is they're shooting to try to get attention he said okay but if they prove to
05:44be there we're going to send federal troops and federalize the entire operation that would have been
05:48a big deal that would have put a large contingent of federal troops in charge of enforcing the law
05:53against the people of New Orleans we did not need that there wasn't an uprising that needed to be
06:03suppressed there were people who needed to be helped an active force needed to handle a humanitarian
06:11side of the disaster so now we were back at the Coast Guard air station and we're like oh my god who
06:22is it who is it that crashed and then found out it was us my helicopter in particular they thought had
06:31crashed or got shot at because nobody had heard from us for hours but once we realized that we
06:41were the so-called missing party then word got back to you know the powers that be but it took them a
06:50while basically our whole fleet and not just us it was you know other branches and stuff were grounded for
06:57that time period when they thought a helicopter had crashed and I had the radio on and I was just
07:03listening to everything going on and I was just like oh my god we're not going to get them all
07:08so we were chumpy and a bit because we were I felt like we were wasting time so what I found
07:27actually insulting was the stuff about how there wasn't enough done because of race when that was
07:35the opposite for us but I know that's not true for everybody my personal experience was that there
07:42were helicopters out there but they were flying more going towards the Lakeview area Lakeview is in the
07:52fluent area with very nice houses people of higher income and when you are in the water in harm's way and a
08:02helicopter is just passing over you constantly going and you know where that wasn't fair
08:20that's why I worked on fishing boats trying to get people out of attics out of harm's way so the storm hit
08:30and that was just going to be a good one of my feet and I was like but I just got up there and it
08:33stood in the water and you know the ground so this was just giving my people out of harm's way so the
08:38people they'll be saying that this was not on the ground it was going to get away from the Nunwood
08:40and they just got to see full of people throughout the arkansas around the world and they're calling for
08:41to get up there and say they're saying that there were like eight years later all of that
08:43we said that they're going to be making our way so we didn't manage that well
08:45could I think that the one of the things that was going on and we didn't find about that
08:47But we knew there would be people who said,
08:52I've got a boat, I'm getting out on the water,
08:54and I'm saving whoever I can.
08:56And that's all we had for quite a while.
09:01Every day we followed the same path with the boat.
09:05And every house had water up to the roof.
09:11Every house.
09:12You had people who were trapped in the attic,
09:19but the tense heat of the day was overwhelming.
09:26Back up, all boys.
09:28Back up! Back up!
09:32We got him!
09:35I hear somebody else.
09:38Yo!
09:39Yo!
09:39You see, there's a difference
09:45in a cry for help and a wailing.
09:50I've heard both.
09:53And you realize that help really isn't on the way.
10:04I got you, madam, right here. Just hold on.
10:07You're gonna be all right.
10:07I saw Eric doing his thing, and he saw me,
10:11and Eric said, I was past, and I was like,
10:13oh, look, that's Eric.
10:14And Eric, look, oh, look, that's John.
10:16I was like, hey, buddy, I can't turn around
10:19and chit-chat with you, I got to go.
10:21But, nah, it was good to see.
10:23I couldn't see him doing anything different, though.
10:25John Keller, I can't say enough about that brother.
10:28He's...
10:29He could do it all.
10:30Bad, bad, bad flood, all that, huh?
10:35I live in American Can Apartments.
10:37Used to be a cannery.
10:39So, after the hurricane hit and the flood,
10:42we went door to door.
10:44So many people rolled to the door in their wheelchairs.
10:47And when I closed the door, I looked at my cousin Chris,
10:49I said, man, these people are in trouble.
10:51When we don't have any elevators,
10:57these people are going to die in their apartments.
10:59I said, we got to get them out of here.
11:03Say about on the top of the rooftop of American Can Apartments.
11:07I had 170 people in the building.
11:09People were still coming to the building.
11:11Say hello.
11:12Hey.
11:13So, they went to the roof.
11:15So I went and I got the fire extinguishers.
11:17You know, the ones with the parlor inside of them?
11:19And I prayed out DRP, MREs, H2O.
11:25That was acronyms that we used in the military.
11:27So, it was just a little quicker.
11:31The helicopter would fly over us and read the little thing
11:34and fly over to like, oh, they come and get us.
11:37But then they flew over me for a couple of days
11:38reading my sign on the roof
11:39and they wasn't trying to do anything.
11:42But I saw them rescue all the white people
11:43at the building behind the American Can.
11:46I said, man, let me, hopefully I'm not right.
11:48But let's get all the black people off the roof.
11:52All the white people in the wheelchairs
11:54on the top of the roof.
11:57I said, I hope I'm not right.
11:5815 minutes later, gave me whatever I need.
11:5915 minutes.
12:00I said, man, I got 60 elderly right now.
12:09If we don't get them out here,
12:10there's going to be a morgue in here.
12:13So, they lifted off the roof.
12:15The people were able to walk around or whatever.
12:18I settled them to the bayou
12:20where the helicopters were picking people up.
12:22I didn't do it by myself.
12:25I had 12 people that helped me get all this together.
12:27And I didn't know I was going to have to, like,
12:29organize this rescue and make it happen.
12:34But I wound up evacuating
12:36and helping 244 people get rescued
12:39out the American Can.
12:40But when you're in America,
12:45and this is supposed to be
12:45the greatest country on the planet,
12:48and I'm watching how they're treating their citizens
12:51and how they're not worrying about their citizens,
12:53like they're, like, second-class citizens,
12:56man, it was appalling.
12:57After all the stuff I did for this country,
13:00and for them not to give you food and water
13:03because you're black on the roof, man,
13:05that's a hard pill to swallow.
13:07People are still inside the Superdome,
13:16and the situation there is getting very...
13:1723,000, according to the federal authorities.
13:20Even as officials work to clear the Superdome
13:22and pick up survivors from the interstates,
13:25there are new problems.
13:26The real hell on earth in New Orleans this morning
13:29was here at the Convention Center,
13:31one of the official evacuation sites.
13:34But there are no buses here,
13:35and there's no sign they're coming soon.
13:37State and local officials are pointing the finger
13:39at Washington and vice versa.
13:41I just want to know why they don't bring me buses
13:43on and take me people out of here.
13:44New Orleans' mayor issued an urgent SOS on Thursday
13:47for storm victims trapped at the Convention Center.
13:50Supplies there are running out.
13:52We go, baby, out here.
13:54They don't have no formula, no water,
13:57and they want us to survive out here.
13:59Where's FEMA? Where's the mayor?
14:00Somehow the state and government hadn't exposed the fact
14:14that when the focus was on the Superdome,
14:16we had an equal number of people at the Convention Center
14:18that were standing outside.
14:21We first learned of the Convention Center,
14:27we being the federal government, today.
14:29I've heard you say during the course of this evening
14:32on a number of interviews,
14:33you just found out about it today.
14:35Don't you guys watch television?
14:36Don't you guys listen to the radio?
14:38How is it possible that you're not,
14:40that we're getting better intel than you're getting?
14:42We had a crew in the air.
14:44We were showing live pictures of the people
14:46outside of the Convention Center.
14:48We're feeding those people in the Convention Center.
14:50But it begs the question,
14:51why are you discovering this now?
14:53It's five days that FEMA's been on the ground.
14:55The head of police says it's been five days
14:57that FEMA's been there.
14:59I believe a lot of people outside of the city
15:02probably combined the Convention Center
15:05and the Superdome into one building,
15:07just not knowing.
15:11Those two terms together,
15:15people outside of the city
15:17saw that as one place.
15:19You know, with all due respect,
15:20the people in the Convention Center are being fed,
15:23the people in the bridges are being...
15:24With all due respect, sir,
15:25the people in the Convention Center
15:27are not being fed.
15:29Our reporters...
15:29I misspoke.
15:30The people in the Superdome,
15:32I'm sorry, you're absolutely correct.
15:34We're getting the supplies
15:35to the Convention Center now.
15:37We found out much later that
15:38as we were telling people
15:41in the federal government
15:42that in the Superdome,
15:45they have food and they have water.
15:48At the same time,
15:49in the Convention Center,
15:50there was no food.
15:52There was no water.
15:53We're finding food wherever we can.
15:55I just finished serving the old folks
15:58as best I could for what we had.
16:00I hadn't ate.
16:03I hadn't ate in, like, three days.
16:05You know, we're all out there
16:07the whole day that passed by,
16:08all the hot sun.
16:10We're out there in the hot sun
16:11all day, the sun beaming.
16:13This is a federal disaster,
16:15not a local one.
16:16First, let me tell you,
16:16there have been deliveries of food,
16:18water, and medical supplies
16:19to the Superdome,
16:20and that's happened
16:20almost from the very beginning.
16:22But this is the Convention Center.
16:23I said, I have not heard a report
16:25of thousands of people
16:27in the Convention Center
16:28who don't have food and water.
16:29No food, no water.
16:32People in here are dying
16:33from the 1980s.
16:35Hell, we have!
16:37Hell, we have!
16:38I can't stand it here anymore.
16:41I can't stand it.
16:42I don't ever want to go back here anymore.
16:47When the police chief
16:49was telling me
16:51at the Convention Center,
16:52hey, we got all these thugs down there.
16:54What are you talking about?
16:56They say, oh, they're arresting.
16:57They're fighting with my cops down there.
16:59We need more troops in here
17:02to help control them.
17:03We need more police.
17:05So I went down there
17:07and they were,
17:07just like the people at the Superdome,
17:09waiting for somebody to tell them
17:10how they were going to evacuate.
17:14These people haven't seen security
17:16here at the Convention Center
17:17for four days.
17:18The fear was
17:19that they would turn violent,
17:20that they would attack
17:21supplies and buses.
17:23And look at them.
17:24They're sitting peacefully.
17:25They're just waiting for a ride
17:26that's taking too long to fly.
17:28I call that the patience of the poor.
17:31I grew up that way.
17:34You learn to wait.
17:37When you're poor
17:38in America,
17:40you're not free.
17:42And when you're poor,
17:43you learn to have patience.
17:45You lose choices
17:46when you're poor.
17:49Yeah, you don't pick
17:49where your kids go to school,
17:50you don't pick where you live,
17:52and you don't pick
17:53where you go to the doctor
17:53if you can get to see one.
17:58So many of these people,
17:59almost all of them
18:00that we see
18:01are so poor
18:02and they are so black,
18:04and this is going to raise
18:05lots of questions
18:06for people who are watching
18:08this story unfold.
18:10We didn't have no protection
18:12out there, you know,
18:13but for some reason,
18:15everybody was kind of calm
18:17because of the crisis,
18:18you know.
18:19They knew what was going on.
18:20They knew right now
18:21this is the time for survival.
18:24One thing about
18:24the poor people
18:25from New Orleans,
18:26we knew how to survive.
18:28If anything else,
18:29we knew how to survive.
18:30We knew how to eat.
18:31We knew how to, you know,
18:32we knew how to get food.
18:34We knew how to work.
18:36But we can't survive in water,
18:38and we cannot survive in water
18:40that's over our head.
18:42You know what I mean?
18:43We, you know,
18:43y'all got us with that.
18:48Over 4,000
18:49National Guard troops
18:50were operating
18:51in New Orleans today,
18:52more arrived
18:53in armored vehicles.
18:54Another 12,000
18:55have been ordered
18:56to the region.
18:57In simplest of terms,
18:59exaggerating conditions
19:00on the ground
19:00just makes things worse.
19:02We believe that
19:03we need to free up
19:04the National Guard
19:05essentially to do security
19:06in the city.
19:10I think probably
19:11the mission
19:11that came through
19:12the loudest
19:12was it's really
19:13messed up down there
19:14and you need to go
19:15help fix it.
19:17And that's probably
19:17not the right mindset
19:18of people
19:21who should arrive
19:22here should have.
19:31After we got
19:33to the Superdome,
19:35we were greeted
19:36by the National Guard.
19:38And the National Guard
19:39wanted to search
19:40my daughter,
19:41my niece.
19:42and wanted to go
19:43inside their bras
19:45and their underwear
19:46and search this
19:47two-year-old baby
19:48and go inside
19:49of her pamper
19:50to see if we had
19:52any weapons
19:52to go inside
19:53the Superdome
19:54and then told me
19:54I couldn't bring my dog.
19:56So I walked down
20:01to the Hyatt
20:02and the clerk
20:05at the desk
20:06I was like
20:06here's my credit card
20:07can we just get a room
20:09just one room
20:10she said
20:12no ma'am
20:12the computers are down
20:14we're on auxiliary
20:15electricity
20:16but you can stay
20:18and they said
20:20anyone with pets
20:21y'all have to go
20:22to like the third floor
20:24I think it was
20:25to the ballroom
20:26in the third floor
20:27I just had surgery
20:29and I had forgotten
20:31my medicine
20:32so by now
20:34it's like hours
20:35since I've taken
20:36a pain pill
20:37or anything
20:38and I'm in severe pain
20:39I'm trying not to show it
20:40I'm trying to be
20:41strong for them
20:42but I'm sweating
20:43and I'm shaking
20:45and I'm cold
20:46and I'm hurting
20:46and my daughter
20:49and my niece
20:50left
20:52left the hotel
20:55and went to
20:58I think they said
20:59they went to Walgreens
21:00or something
21:00and so they came back
21:01with like
21:02this big Santa Claus
21:04bag full of
21:05shampoos
21:06and Tylenol
21:07and they were all excited
21:09and they got this bag
21:10mom we got you
21:11some medicine
21:12mom
21:12you gonna be okay mom
21:14we went looting
21:16I was like
21:17oh my god
21:18you guys could have
21:19been killed
21:20y'all could have
21:21been shot
21:21then they boarded
21:25up the hotel
21:26and they weren't
21:27letting anybody else
21:28in
21:29and they were
21:30you know
21:30telling us
21:31that we had to
21:32act accordingly
21:34and this guy
21:36was knocking
21:38on the door
21:38and he kept
21:40saying
21:41you know
21:41let me in
21:42let me in
21:42I was already
21:43in there
21:44let me in
21:45and the National Guard
21:46saying
21:47sir do not advance
21:48we can't let you
21:50in here
21:50sir do not advance
21:52so we had
21:54all of this
21:55and I'm like
21:56scared to dead
21:58half of the time
21:58we got
21:59the military
22:00walking around
22:00pointing guns
22:01making folks
22:02go to sleep
22:03lay down
22:04move here
22:05move there
22:05you know
22:06hurry up
22:07hurry up
22:08I said move now
22:09pointing guns at you
22:10and you're like
22:10okay
22:12it was a lot
22:18it was a lot
22:20it kept you
22:21so defensive
22:21that your body
22:23ate
22:23from
22:24you know
22:25just
22:25wondering
22:26what next
22:27what next
22:27you know
22:28I know something else
22:29is going to happen
22:30what next
22:31Governor Blanco
22:36talked to some
22:37of her guys
22:38from the National Guard
22:39and she went out
22:40and did a press conference
22:41and said
22:42I have one message
22:43for these
22:44for these hoodlums
22:47these troops
22:48know how to
22:49shoot and kill
22:50and they are
22:51more than willing
22:52to do so
22:53if necessary
22:54and I expect
22:56they will
22:56and I said
22:57Governor
22:58you don't want
22:59to tell your troops
23:00to shoot people
23:00to kill
23:01that's your people
23:03oh General
23:06man please
23:09that's not something
23:10you ever want to do
23:11by any government
23:12elected official
23:13is to tell their troops
23:14to shoot civilians
23:15that will flip
23:19our democracy
23:20we saw what happened
23:23at Kent State
23:23when troops
23:25over some
23:26bullshit mission
23:27went out there
23:28and shot students
23:29on the campus
23:29I didn't want to be
23:30any part of
23:31an operation
23:32where troops
23:33thought they had
23:33cart blank
23:34to shoot people
23:35it took four days
23:40but the National Guard
23:41finally rolled
23:42a relief convoy
23:43into downtown
23:43New Orleans
23:44today
23:44our job was
23:45to protect people
23:47and evacuate them
23:48that was the priority
23:49not protect some
23:52store
23:54or protect property
23:56what is justified
23:57what's not
23:57I think there ought to be
23:57zero tolerance
23:58of people breaking
24:00the law during
24:01an emergency
24:02such as this
24:02and we struggle
24:04if people go
24:04and lose stores
24:05and they're bringing
24:06us the juices
24:07and they're about
24:07to kill them
24:08then we're going to have nothing
24:09we need to be very careful
24:10when we feel
24:12that the tone
24:13has shifted
24:14and if suddenly
24:16the mission feels
24:19like we're protecting
24:19stuff
24:20instead of helping
24:23people
24:24we're
24:27we're
24:28we're
24:29we're
24:30we're
24:30we're probably
24:31getting it wrong
24:31yeah
24:35and then
24:37the rumble
24:39of trucks
24:39it's clear
24:40the rescuers
24:41feared the ones
24:42that came to help
24:43at least initially
24:44this was not
24:46combat operations
24:46there was nobody
24:47shooting at it
24:48but federal troops
24:49had the perception
24:50of what
24:51they saw
24:52from
24:53exaggerated report
24:54on television
24:55that the city
24:56was out of control
24:56can the national guard
24:58get the city
24:58of new orleans
24:59under control
24:59violence seems
25:00to be everywhere
25:01some thugs
25:02are even threatening
25:02ems personnel
25:03we'll have the very latest
25:05some of them
25:07have been fresh
25:08from iraq
25:08and they knew
25:09what the counter
25:10sniper rule was
25:11if you got 10 troops
25:13all of them
25:13are pointing
25:13in different directions
25:14looking for the sniper
25:16looking at the ground
25:17looking at eye level
25:19looking on top
25:19of buildings
25:20and that was
25:23a concerning scene
25:24when those troops
25:25turned the corner
25:25from Padres
25:27to Convention Street
25:28pointing their weapons
25:29in many cases
25:30they were pointing weapons
25:31at a place
25:33where a lot of ladies
25:34with babies
25:34and elderly ladies
25:36were standing
25:36in a disaster
25:45one of the first
25:46things you got to do
25:46is figure out
25:47what rules
25:47you're going to break
25:48the rules
25:57federal officers
25:58don't tell the
25:59national guard
25:59what to do
26:00and at that time
26:02we didn't work
26:03for the national guard
26:03and the national guard
26:04didn't work for us
26:05get those damn weapons
26:05down
26:06I'm going to tell you
26:07again
26:08get those goddamn
26:11weapons down
26:11put those weapons
26:14down damn it
26:15well you see them
26:16doing dumb shit
26:17yeah you tell them
26:17what to do
26:18because they do
26:18a lot of great stuff
26:19but if they're doing
26:20dumb shit
26:21that's not consistent
26:22with the mission
26:23which is to take care
26:24of the people
26:25then yeah I tell them
26:26what to do
26:26that guardsman
26:34who's in Wisconsin
26:35who's packing their bag
26:36and they're preparing
26:37to come to Louisiana
26:38kind of feels like
26:39they're going to a war zone
26:40and they weren't
26:42but that's the mindset
26:43they brought with them
26:44that it was really
26:45really bad here
26:46put that weapon down
26:47on your back
26:48and deliver it to them
26:51when you're in
26:51rescuing people
26:52you don't point guns
26:53at them
26:54by that time
27:00I became
27:00somewhat of the
27:01de facto voice
27:02because I was on the
27:03ground in New Orleans
27:04not in Baton Rouge
27:05and not in D.C.
27:08and I knew
27:09one of the
27:10implied tasks
27:11was to get
27:12the story straight
27:13and I clearly
27:15understand our mission
27:16was to save lives
27:17hey tiger
27:18hey tiger
27:19let's go
27:19again the people
27:21aren't the problem
27:21the system's the problem
27:22the lack of systems
27:25that took care
27:25of all these people
27:26was the problem
27:27but the people
27:27aren't the problem
27:28go help the people
27:29and I think that got lost
27:31you know my understanding
27:32is that martial law
27:34is in effect
27:34and it's at this point
27:36we can't protect our own
27:38martial law
27:40was never enacted
27:40in New Orleans
27:41Ben Negan announced
27:43that martial law
27:44was in effect
27:44but he didn't have
27:46the authority
27:46to declare martial law
27:47and that contributed
27:50to a lot of confusion
27:51on the ground
27:51in practice
27:53declaring martial law
27:54meant giving
27:56the police chief
27:58the authority
27:58to do whatever
28:00he needed to do
28:01that's my understanding
28:02of martial law
28:03there was rumor
28:04that New Orleans
28:05was under martial law
28:06but no one
28:08had ever told
28:08the police department
28:10hey we're under martial law
28:11no that never happened
28:12but there was rumors
28:14about all of that
28:15all over the place
28:16so did some officers
28:17believe that
28:18that was a possibility
28:20there was a lot
28:22of opportunities
28:23there to do
28:23some unsavory things
28:25but people with integrity
28:27don't do that
28:28I can vouch for my men
28:29and women
28:29that work for me
28:30didn't happen
28:32now
28:32you had some policemen
28:34probably had unsavory
28:36intentions
28:36and kind of stepped
28:37over the line
28:38not just some
28:39you probably had a lot
28:40it was a Friday evening
28:49the buses didn't come
28:50none through the week
28:51so we thought
28:52it was manning
28:52gonna come on Friday
28:53so it started getting
28:59almost dark
29:00every time
29:01the people out there
29:02would see lights
29:03coming down the street
29:04they're thinking
29:04that's the buses
29:05coming to take us away
29:07a call came from
29:11down the street
29:12they thought it was a bus
29:13so it was a cop call
29:14and the cop
29:15you know
29:16he rode back
29:16he rode past
29:17took his time
29:19this little guy
29:20was like
29:21hey hey hey
29:21he was just like
29:23when they gonna
29:24send the buses
29:25so
29:26the cop
29:27he slowed down
29:28a little bit
29:28the little guy
29:29felt like he was
29:30being ignored
29:30so he turned around
29:33and walked off
29:33and when he turned
29:35around and walked off
29:35the cop
29:36rolled the
29:37the back window down
29:39and stuck his shotgun
29:41out of the window
29:42and hit the little
29:43dude
29:44hit the little guy
29:44in his back
29:45BOOM
29:46and then the guy
29:50just dropped
29:50right there
29:51like he did
29:52he killed this man
29:53in front of all
29:54these people
29:54and the guy's
29:57sister was out there
29:58like that lady
29:59not gonna never be right
30:00you know what I'm saying
30:01as long as she lives
30:02she's not gonna never
30:03be right
30:03because she witnessed
30:04her brother getting
30:05killed for nothing
30:06trying to find out
30:07some information
30:08well I thought
30:10that was the coldest
30:11thing in the world
30:11like the police
30:12really killing people
30:13and they're killing
30:14people in front
30:15of everybody
30:16so I just felt like
30:19I was like
30:20okay well
30:20this was gonna happen
30:21to me
30:22I thought that was
30:22gonna happen to me
30:23I definitely did
30:25when we knew
30:37that there was
30:37no food
30:38and water
30:39at the convention center
30:40and the number
30:41of people
30:42kept growing
30:43and it had reached
30:44above 20,000 people
30:46the mayor said
30:48if you're at
30:49the convention center
30:50walk
30:51at least then
30:53you know
30:54you're walking
30:55toward
30:56the safety
30:58of others
30:59we found
30:59one evacuation route
31:01to walk across
31:02the Crescent City
31:02connection
31:03on the overpass
31:05down Highway 90
31:06there's buses coming
31:07you may be able
31:08to find some relief
31:09so we were
31:13up on the interstate
31:15and it was hot
31:18as hell
31:18it was unbearable
31:20in some situations
31:21you didn't have
31:22access to water
31:23so my sister
31:25and the people
31:26we were with
31:26decided we were
31:27going to go
31:27as far down
31:28as we could go
31:29and we walked down
31:31trying to get
31:32as close as we could
31:33to the algaes
31:34to the bridge
31:35the Great New Orleans Bridge
31:36the only thing
31:36we were looking for
31:37was to be able
31:38to find some place
31:39safe
31:39but that didn't happen
31:42by the time
31:53the word got
31:54to the people
31:55at the convention center
31:56and they began
31:56to walk
31:57across the Mississippi
31:58River Bridge
31:59unfortunately
32:00the story
32:01of lawlessness
32:02took such a life
32:04of its own
32:05that good members
32:06of law enforcement
32:07but also
32:08emergency personnel
32:10and surrounding
32:11neighbors
32:11turned people back
32:14turned good people
32:16back from help
32:18you ready for this
32:20you think this is
32:22one of the scariest
32:23things that you've
32:24ever had to do
32:24in your life
32:25I can honestly say
32:26yeah it is
32:26when we get to
32:27the bridge
32:28it's going to be
32:29fucking scary
32:29we're going to be
32:30crossing the Crescent
32:31City Connection
32:31the situation is
32:33everybody who's
32:34stuck on this side
32:34of the river
32:35without transportation
32:36is in the area
32:38that we're going to
32:39right now
32:39walking
32:40desperate
32:41without food or water
32:42haven't eaten
32:43in a few days
32:44haven't drank
32:45in a few days
32:45you know
32:47so it's
32:48it's going to be
32:48a pretty desperate
32:49situation when we
32:50get there
32:50and I can honestly
32:53say I have no
32:53qualms about
32:54shooting anybody
32:55it's just that
32:55much lawlessness
32:56right now
32:57hell have no
33:00mercy for us
33:01no we have no
33:02fear
33:02we will shoot
33:03first and
33:04I'll shoot first
33:05to ask questions
33:05please
33:06right
33:06we'll have to be
33:12picking them off
33:13the front
33:13here we go
33:16they have set up
33:18a checkpoint
33:18at the bottom
33:19of this bridge
33:20this is the bridge
33:21that takes you
33:21from New Orleans
33:22over into Gretna
33:23from Orleans Parish
33:24into Jefferson's Parish
33:25it's the only way out
33:27it's the
33:27it's the connection
33:28to the rest of the world
33:29and they've set up
33:30a checkpoint
33:30and anyone who walks
33:32up out of that city
33:33now is turned around
33:35you are not allowed
33:36to go to Gretna
33:37Louisiana
33:38from New Orleans
33:38Louisiana
33:39over there
33:40there's hope
33:41over there
33:41there's electricity
33:42over there
33:43there's food
33:44and water
33:45but you cannot go
33:46from there to there
33:46the government
33:47will not allow you
33:48to do it
33:49we were not allowed
33:55to go across
33:57the Mississippi River
33:58Bridge
33:58even though that's
33:59still Orleans Parish
34:00which is where
34:01our taxes go
34:03we were told
34:04we could not go
34:05into that part
34:07of the city
34:08they were under
34:12the impression
34:13that people
34:14were just going
34:15to want to leave
34:16New Orleans
34:16to go rob them
34:18which you really
34:19wanted to get out
34:20of New Orleans
34:20so you could live
34:21or survive
34:23well I was
34:26I was here
34:27this is Algiers
34:29Algiers Point
34:30to be exact
34:32Algiers is the
34:33West Bank
34:34well we really
34:37didn't have
34:38any water there
34:39because it was
34:40just like a dry
34:41land
34:41but they had
34:42trees down
34:43you know
34:44and limbs
34:45and you know
34:46stuff in the streets
34:47and stuff like that
34:48but forest water
34:49they didn't have
34:50no water
34:51on the
34:51West Bank
34:52of the River
34:53in Algiers
34:53well
34:54they said
34:55other hurricanes
34:56that hit
34:57New Orleans
34:57if they don't
34:58affect the
34:59West Bank
34:59we don't leave
35:00you know
35:01because
35:02we can survive
35:03it don't damage
35:06that bad
35:07you're going to have
35:08food in your house
35:09probably just need
35:10water
35:11Katrina didn't bring
35:13no flooding
35:14on the West Bank
35:15none
35:16but
35:20Algiers
35:21was not safe
35:22some of the
35:24areas were
35:25telling the people
35:25don't come over
35:26here
35:27it wasn't safe
35:29at all
35:30it really wasn't
35:31one of my neighbors
35:35came around here
35:37and he came
35:38he was trembling
35:39man what's wrong
35:40with you
35:40he said man
35:42they tried to kill me
35:43he said man
35:45there's some white boys
35:46around the corner
35:46and I had to beg
35:48him not to shoot
35:49I was down the street
35:51and they said
35:53where you from
35:53where you at
35:54turn around
35:55turn around
35:56I said hold on
35:57I live right here
35:58in the next block
36:00turn around
36:01turn around
36:02well I didn't believe
36:03it I went around
36:04that way
36:05if you want to
36:06call a vigilante
36:07yeah
36:07well we just
36:08looked out for everybody
36:09yeah we did
36:11you had to do
36:13what you had to do
36:14you know
36:14you had to shoot
36:15somebody
36:16you had to shoot
36:16somebody
36:17we shot them
36:20they were looters
36:23we tried to shoot
36:24to put them down
36:25we didn't try to shoot
36:26to kill
36:26oh okay
36:27we killed a number of them
36:29how many did you kill
36:30roughly
36:30yeah I hear you
36:37it doesn't matter
36:38they chose to die
36:41they chose to commit suicide
36:42how do you know
36:43the vigilantes
36:44you see them
36:45how they patrol
36:48around here in trucks
36:49four charge truck
36:51driver and a passenger
36:54and then two in the back
36:56with long guns
36:58and nobody telling them anything
37:01there was no police
37:02no police
37:04no army
37:06no national guard
37:07nobody
37:08then they put in a
37:10shoot to kill
37:11curfew
37:12a dust of dawn
37:14shoot to kill
37:16but there's nobody left
37:17young blacks
37:20was being killed
37:21in this community
37:22when you hear the gunfire
37:26it's not something
37:27I'm just making up
37:28it's out there
37:30it was great
37:31it was like pheasant season
37:33in South Dakota
37:34if it moved
37:36you shot it
37:37I remember
37:52that the storm
37:54had passed
37:55and we were just
37:57you know
37:57in Algiers
37:58with no information
38:00no food
38:03no water
38:03nothing like that
38:05the train of me
38:12and the day my brother
38:13left me
38:14that's what it mean to me
38:16the day my brother left
38:18Henry Glover
38:20was my younger brother
38:21he was going out to
38:23you know
38:24help his sister
38:25and help his family
38:26you know
38:27to go out
38:27and trying to get
38:29water
38:29and stuff that we need
38:32that to survive
38:33I hear my brother-in-law
38:35from a distance
38:36dirty
38:37that's my nickname
38:39dirty red
38:40dirty
38:41dirty
38:42police shot your brother
38:45I said he shot
38:46my boy shot him where
38:47I go out
38:49screaming
38:50running down the street
38:51and asking where
38:53my brother was
38:54and
38:54I found my brother
38:56laying
38:56in the streets
38:57shot
38:59I knew it was the police
39:00when the first time
39:01I heard he was shot
39:02my brother-in-law
39:03that's what he was saying
39:04a police
39:05shot
39:06your brother
39:07so when I looked
39:11to the left
39:11car coming down
39:13the street
39:13so I flagged that car
39:15I said man
39:16my brother been shot
39:17give me some help
39:17help me
39:18he said man
39:18come on
39:19put him in the car
39:19I heard a gun shot
39:21I heard a gun shot
39:21I went pinching
39:22I thought it might be fireworks
39:23I saw a gentleman
39:24laying on a manhole
39:27and his brother
39:28and his brother-in-law
39:28picked him up
39:29and put him in my
39:31backseat of my car
39:32when I picked him up
39:33blood was hitting the ground
39:36like it was raining
39:37sounded like it was raining
39:42I told him to bring him
39:45to the hospital
39:45and William Tanner
39:47told me about a school
39:48called Haven School
39:50where the police
39:51had a makeshift
39:52substation up there
39:54so Tanner
39:55the guy we flagged out
39:56he said man
39:57I know
39:57the police
39:58is over here
39:59they should have
39:59a doctor over there
40:01so we shoot out
40:02so I can bring them
40:03to Haven School
40:04because I know
40:05two days out of the storm
40:06they had medical attention
40:07they had a truckload
40:08of stuff over there
40:09these are the police
40:10so I thought
40:11I might get him
40:12the help he needs
40:13five of them come out
40:16get on the ground
40:18get on the ground now
40:20get on the ground
40:21I said we need help
40:23he's shot
40:24and they start beating us up
40:29well they kicked me twice
40:30in the stomach
40:31and hit me with
40:3116 rifle inside my cheek
40:34he punched me in the face
40:36bow
40:36stood me up
40:38put his hand
40:39around my throat
40:40choked me
40:41till I was
40:42my eyes rose
40:43in the back of my head
40:44I thought they was
40:45going to kill me
40:46for them to be
40:47beating me
40:48that's when they registered
40:50these are the people
40:51who shot him
40:52they did take a picture
40:54of us
40:54it was with the police
40:55handcuffed behind
40:56the police
40:56NOPD scorecard
40:58I saw one of them
41:00had flares
41:01in his pocket
41:02and he drove off
41:03with my car
41:04with Henry
41:05in the back seat
41:06I told Edward
41:07I don't think
41:07I'll see that car again
41:09because I figured
41:10that when the flares
41:11he had in his pocket
41:12he was going to burn
41:13the car up
41:14his remains was found
41:20burnt
41:21inside
41:23of a car
41:24people talk about Katrina
41:33I kind of shy away
41:34and walk off
41:35Katrina just
41:36a hurricane
41:37but what they did
41:40during that time
41:41that was evil
41:44pure evil
41:46I don't want to remember that
41:49I'm not a naive person
41:54to violence
41:55but nothing prepared me
41:57for what happened
41:59after Katrina
42:00and it's
42:04real hard
42:06to see
42:06when that violence
42:07is being
42:09inflicted upon you
42:11and you can't
42:12defend yourself
42:13from it
42:14that's what
42:15it happened
42:16after Katrina
42:17at the parish line
42:26the county line
42:27of Gretna
42:28they were met
42:29with attack dogs
42:31and police officers
42:33with machine guns
42:34saying
42:35you have to turn back
42:37so we were up
42:39on the bridge
42:40and it became
42:42more of a situation
42:44where
42:45when are we going
42:45to get out
42:46how are we going
42:47to get out
42:48we get
42:49look
42:49we're this high in water
42:50we grab what we get
42:52how long have you been
42:54walking for
42:54about at least three hours
42:56they weren't going to go
42:57in those doggone neighborhoods
42:58they weren't going to
42:59impact those neighborhoods
43:00those people were looking
43:02to escape
43:03and they cut off
43:04the last available
43:05exit route
43:06look at my people
43:08I got two ranchers
43:12and a nephew
43:13another nephew
43:14right now
43:15we got trying to get
43:16the old folks out
43:17if I stay up here
43:19I'm going to die
43:20if I go that fucking way
43:23and they shoot me
43:23now I'm going to die
43:24so I'm going to die
43:25any fucking way
43:26you're going to die
43:27to me anyway
43:28but whatever it takes
43:30for me to get mine out
43:31you
43:31I'm getting the fuck
43:33out you
43:33you heard me
43:34I wouldn't give a fuck
43:36I gotta go
43:37you
43:48you

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