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00:00So you, Senator, are out holding town halls with voters, not only in Arizona.
00:06Interestingly, you held one in Warren, Michigan, Friday night.
00:08A new poll from the Wall Street Journal shows that your party, the Democrats,
00:12are at your lowest approval rating in 35 years.
00:1563% of those polls, voters, say they held an unfavorable view of the Democratic Party.
00:22So what are you hearing from voters, and why do you think your party's struggling so much?
00:26Well, first of all, Jake, thank you for having me on, and we have to fix this.
00:34I don't put a ton of stock into, you know, polls, especially this far away from an election,
00:40but we certainly do have a problem, and it's a messaging problem.
00:43And it's important to get out there and talk to people about the issues that they care about.
00:48So I was outside of Detroit there in Warren talking to folks who don't get to hear from their member of Congress,
00:55a guy named John James, he doesn't explain to them what happened in this big bill that the president
01:02and House and Senate Republicans passed, and it's really a bad deal for the American people.
01:08So myself and my wife Gabby, you know, sat there in front of a large group and took some questions from them
01:14and tried to explain to them, you know, what's going to happen to Medicaid, what's going to happen to food assistance through SNAP.
01:22And there were folks here that I got the sense that these programs directly are going to affect them and their family members,
01:30and they do deserve an explanation from somebody in the United States Congress.
01:35And if their representative isn't going to do it, I'm going to go there.
01:40And hopefully in time, you know, the American people will understand that we are out there fighting for them.
01:45So you talk about how the Democratic Party has a communications problem.
01:49Your party, the Democratic Party, posted on Twitter or X in the last few days a chart that showed the price of groceries skyrocketing.
01:57The White House took that Democratic chart and accurately reposted it to show that most of the price jumps in that graph happened under the Biden administration.
02:08The Democrats then deleted the post.
02:11So I wonder if you think Democrats have figured out their problems both in terms of communications
02:16and also acknowledging that Biden-era inflation, for example, is one of the reasons why your party is out of power.
02:27Yeah, I think that's fair.
02:29There was inflation during the Biden administration.
02:32I track this pretty closely.
02:34You know, I know what, you know, ground beef and eggs and milk costs at the Safeway, where Gabby and I shop in Tucson, Arizona.
02:42They went up during the Biden administration.
02:45They went up some more.
02:46You know, you're going to see prices go up and down.
02:48But I think what's important for the American people to know is that Donald Trump's tariff policy is very likely to increase costs.
02:55It's going to take some time because of supply chains, stuff from and coming from, you know, in some cases from all over the planet.
03:02And his trade policy for my constituents in Arizona, there are a lot of products that come across the southern border,
03:11agricultural products that create thousands and thousands of jobs, not only in Arizona, but in the state of Texas.
03:17And we are facing right now some significant job loss.
03:21So when you think inflation is a problem for a family, somebody losing a job is even a bigger problem.
03:28And we're trying to figure out how we navigate that with this administration.
03:31They, you know, I've spoken to the secretary of commerce about some of these tariffs, and we haven't gotten the response that we need.
03:39Let me ask you about a big international issue, the starvation crisis in Gaza, man-made crisis.
03:46Overnight, the government of Israel said they will begin to open additional humanitarian quarters for the purpose of getting additional aid into Gaza.
03:54We've obviously been seeing these horrific images of Palestinian children starving and suffering from malnutrition.
04:00I know you've been in close contact with Cindy McCain, the head of the U.N. World Food Program, who obviously is from Arizona.
04:07What is Cindy McCain telling you about the situation in Gaza?
04:10And are you satisfied with the latest news from Israel?
04:13And what do you think the United States should be doing?
04:19Yeah, well, I talked to her text with Cindy, who is the head of the World Food Program, you know, weekly.
04:25Even just this morning, I was sharing some information with her that we received from the Israeli embassy in Washington about what they plan to do.
04:35So I'm trying to help with the communication here.
04:38She's under a tremendous amount, her organization, a tremendous amount of stress and, you know, just kind of dislocation of the resources that she had.
04:50The rescissions package that you mentioned with Russ Vogt, you know, cut money for UNICEF.
04:56The doge cuts cut somewhere around 40 percent of Cindy McCain's budget at the World Food Program.
05:04So weekly, she's trying to figure out where does she put resources to keep children alive.
05:10It is a horrible situation.
05:12And we should never see this kind of starvation across the planet for anybody.
05:17But to see kids starving, I've seen this personally in the DRC when I traveled there with Gabby about a decade ago.
05:25It is a horrific thing to see, and we have to do better.
05:29Her challenge is she often can't get the aid into Gaza.
05:33Now, the Israeli government says they're going to have this, like, temporary ceasefire to try to move more aid in.
05:43Aid needs to be continuous.
05:44It can't be just a one-time thing.
05:46They're going to drop some aid from airplanes.
05:49But we need to have a continuous supply of food into Gaza, or these children are going to starve to death.
05:57Reuters is reporting that 20 percent of employees at NASA, around 4,000 individuals,
06:03are set to depart the agency through the Trump administration's deferred resignation program.
06:08You are, if people don't know, a retired astronaut.
06:10What goes through your mind when you hear that?
06:14Well, it's some of the best people that NASA has.
06:17And NASA is tasked with doing some really hard things that benefit our country, our national security, our economy.
06:23That really grows our economy, great paying jobs.
06:26We built industries through the investment in science, including with NASA.
06:31And the president is undercutting his own programs.
06:37In 2017, he started a program to take American astronauts back to the moon,
06:42to put them there permanently, to grow an economy on the surface of the moon.
06:46And now his own budget undercuts those efforts.
06:49I was with Sean Duffy, who's going to be the temporary NASA administrator, just last week.
06:55And we talked about, like, where should NASA be going,
06:57and how do you actually achieve the goals that this president set in his first administration?
07:02He's got an opportunity here.
07:04You know, he can fund these programs.
07:06They can be successful.
07:07He can claim and take a victory lap maybe at the end of his administration.
07:11Or he could let NASA, you know, just kind of die, along with other science that only the United States has been able to do.
07:20You know, some other nation isn't going to pick up the kind of scientific research that we do at places like the Jet Propulsion Laboratory or the NIH and universities.
07:30So I'm really disappointed to see these cuts.
07:34I've got a friend of mine, by the way, a guy I flew in space with, one of my crew members for my last mission in 2011.
07:40He's going to launch in space Thursday.
07:43So I'm hoping to be down there to see him make one final trip into space.
07:49And it's one of the things, I think, that really makes our country great.
07:52I'm going to give you a yes or no question here, Senator, because we're completely out of time.
07:56Okay?
07:57I know it's challenging for a senator.
07:58Senator, is it fair to say you did a town hall in Michigan and you're coming to us from Pennsylvania, both of them key battleground states?
08:07Yes or no, are you considering running for president in 2028?
08:13That is a good question.
08:15I know you want a yes or no answer.
08:18I'm trying to do, and I'm not going to give you a yes or no one.
08:20No.
08:20Because I'm just trying to do this job, get the word out to the American people.
08:23And I'm trying to improve, you know, the polling that you talked about.
08:27And just listen to voters, wherever they are, about, you know, what are the problems they're dealing with and how do we fix them?
08:35Okay.
08:35Well, I'll just observe that if anybody asked me that, I'd say no, I'm not running for president.