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00:00:00Turning now to the issue of national security, my guest tonight has created a firestorm in Washington
00:00:05over what he says is a cover-up of vital pre-9-11 intelligence.
00:00:09It is the highly classified Able Danger program.
00:00:13And it identified Mohammed Atta and three other 9-11 terrorists as members of an al-Qaeda cell in Brooklyn, New York,
00:00:20more than a year before the attacks.
00:00:22Congressman Kurt Weldon says the man who blew the whistle on this intelligence,
00:00:25Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaffer, is now the subject of a smear campaign by the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:00:32Congressman Weldon blasted the DIA in a fiery speech on the House floor just last night.
00:00:38This is an attempt to prevent the American people from knowing the facts about how we could have prevented 9-11,
00:00:45and people are covering it up today.
00:00:48And they're ruining the career of a military officer to do it.
00:00:52And we can't let it stand.
00:00:53I don't care whether you're Democrat or Republican,
00:00:56you can't let a lieutenant colonel's career be ruined because of some bureaucrat in the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:01:02If we let that happen, then no one that wears the uniform will ever feel protected.
00:01:08Because we will have let them down.
00:01:11Congressman Weldon joins us now from Capitol Hill.
00:01:14Congressman, what prompted your call for an immediate investigation?
00:01:18Lou, this is so outrageous it makes me sick to my stomach.
00:01:21As a loyal member of the Armed Services Committee supporting our military for 19 years,
00:01:26the intelligence agency took away Tony Schaffer's security clearance.
00:01:30They're now about to take away his health care benefits.
00:01:32He has two children and his salary because he told the truth.
00:01:35When they took away a security clearance,
00:01:37they said in September 23rd in a letter,
00:01:40you can never see any classified information or documents again.
00:01:44Over the weekend, they sent this box, Lou,
00:01:47labeled Defense Intelligence Agency to his home.
00:01:50In the box were five classified documents.
00:01:53They sent five classified documents mistakenly to Tony Schaffer at his home.
00:01:59The Defense Intelligence Agency is on a witch hunt.
00:02:02They accused him of stealing pens.
00:02:04Congressman?
00:02:05And this is outrageous.
00:02:06Why would the Defense Intelligence Agency want to destroy the reputation, as you point out,
00:02:13a decorated career member of the United States military?
00:02:19Lou, when the story is told, when the able danger story comes out,
00:02:22there's going to be embarrassment all over the place.
00:02:25The Defense Intelligence Agency spending hundreds of millions of dollars
00:02:28could not do what a 20-member special team did
00:02:32in identifying, through data mining, Mohammed Atta and the Brooklyn cell one year before 9-11.
00:02:39Those DIA officials are still in the agency.
00:02:42They're still there working.
00:02:43And they don't want Tony Schaffer to tell the truth.
00:02:46They don't want Commander Scott Philpott to tell the truth
00:02:49because they're then going to have to answer the question,
00:02:52why did you ignore this?
00:02:53Why did you not take appropriate steps?
00:02:55Why did this information not be passed to the FBI?
00:02:59Louis Free, this past Sunday, said on Meet the Press,
00:03:02that if it had the able danger information,
00:03:05the FBI could have stopped the hijackings.
00:03:08That's Louis Free saying that this past Sunday.
00:03:10And to be clear, the suggestion is that the Pentagon stopped able danger
00:03:14from sharing that information with the FBI or any other agency that might have acted.
00:03:18Is that correct?
00:03:19Absolutely.
00:03:20It was September of 2000 when it was stopped.
00:03:23Now, the 9-11 Commission at first denied that able danger existed,
00:03:28that they had been told anything about this.
00:03:29That was the first remark from Lee Hamilton.
00:03:31It was the first response from the staff.
00:03:34Subsequently, it turned out that, yes, they had heard about able danger on two occasions.
00:03:39How do you feel about the commission and its reaction to able danger and the allegations that have been made?
00:03:48Well, Lou, I supported the commission when it was established.
00:03:51I know some of the commissioners.
00:03:52I'm convinced the commissioners themselves were never briefed.
00:03:55But what I have found out is that Scott Philpott, an Annapolis grad,
00:04:00who voluntarily went in and briefed a 9-11 Commission staffer in July of 2004,
00:04:08told the 9-11 Commission staffer about able danger.
00:04:11That 9-11 Commission staffer made a decision not to brief the commissioners.
00:04:16That 9-11 Commission staffer was working for Jamie Gorelick,
00:04:21who was a member of the commission who wrote the famous memo that said they could not transfer information
00:04:26between the military and the FBI.
00:04:29The so-called wall.
00:04:31Yes.
00:04:32Congressman Kurt Weldon, we thank you for being here.
00:04:34We're going to follow this carefully, as are you.
00:04:37We would like you to come back with every development,
00:04:40and we will continue to follow this rigorously.
00:04:43Thank you, Lou.
00:04:43Thank you, Congressman, and thank you for your concern on the issue.
00:04:50Hey, welcome to OnTap with PPN.
00:04:52I'm so happy everybody's here.
00:04:54Matt, nice to see you as always.
00:04:56Geez, what's going on?
00:04:57And by the way, we have the one and only Kurt Weldon in the backstage.
00:05:02Wonderful.
00:05:03Well, you know, geez, every day just seems you...
00:05:07How about it?
00:05:07We get topped for more information.
00:05:09I mean, Tulsi Gabbard refuting, you know, Obama comes out.
00:05:15She refutes what Obama's office said with facts.
00:05:19So this is getting quite interesting.
00:05:22Words treason, treasonous conspiracy.
00:05:24So this is a conspiracy going around.
00:05:26We've got now, according to Zero Hedge,
00:05:31we've got U.S. nuclear weapons in the U.K.
00:05:33for the first time in 15 years.
00:05:36I don't know if Trump's using that as a bargaining tool
00:05:38in the Ukraine situation.
00:05:40I think our guest tonight, who's back on the show,
00:05:43former U.S. representative Kurt Weldon
00:05:45from my home state of Pennsylvania, my home city,
00:05:48my birth city of Philadelphia,
00:05:51probably provides some insight to that.
00:05:54And hopefully he gets to share his insights on Russia
00:06:00and what they were trying to do to reach out to us from 2000 onward.
00:06:04And we're blocked by folks like Condi Rice and others.
00:06:08And I just got to say, before you bring him on, Warren,
00:06:10he briefed, he presented a great speaker at our 5 July event.
00:06:16We had a whole host of good ones.
00:06:18And he brought the house down with an impassioned speech.
00:06:24And eyes opened, jaws dropped,
00:06:27when he was saying what happened to him.
00:06:30And this is from someone who had been in Congress
00:06:33for, you know, 20-some years.
00:06:34Yeah.
00:06:35And what they did to him,
00:06:36because he wasn't playing by the hymnal,
00:06:41the official hymnal that folks wanted,
00:06:43and just simply wanted the truth,
00:06:44not trying to score political points,
00:06:46just find the damn truth.
00:06:48Yeah.
00:06:48Well, and in everything we've talked about coming true,
00:06:52he is someone that was in the midst of it the whole time.
00:06:56I wish I could have been at that event
00:06:58just to shake his hand and say,
00:06:59hello, you know, look him in the eyes
00:07:01and say, thank you for everything.
00:07:03I'm sorry for everything you've gone through
00:07:04and thank you for what you're doing, you know.
00:07:08He did well.
00:07:09And as maybe alluded to,
00:07:11I think he's, God bless him,
00:07:14you know, somebody of his experience
00:07:17trying and mentoring my nephew, one of them,
00:07:20some others he reached out to
00:07:22when he was here getting younger people
00:07:24to hopefully maybe run for U.S. Congress.
00:07:26So he was on a mission.
00:07:29We need that.
00:07:30We need that.
00:07:31So I'm going to bring him in.
00:07:33Hello, Mr. Weldon.
00:07:35How are you?
00:07:36It's Kurt, and it's great to be with you both.
00:07:38I want to thank you both for your patriotism,
00:07:41what you're doing for the nation.
00:07:42So I'm happy to be a part of this
00:07:44and congratulate you both
00:07:46for being the kind of patriots
00:07:48that make the country strong.
00:07:51Hey, Kurt, thank you.
00:07:52And I want to say again
00:07:54on behalf of the audience, thank you.
00:07:56I mean, I've gotten so many comments.
00:07:58Me too.
00:07:59About what you said,
00:08:00because so many folks, you know,
00:08:02older folks like us were,
00:08:03had followed you, you know,
00:08:05because you'd be on Meet the Depressed
00:08:06and that kind of stuff,
00:08:07and they knew you,
00:08:08and then you kind of disappeared.
00:08:11And they really weren't sure what happened,
00:08:13and they were happy to see you again
00:08:14and hear the story.
00:08:15Well, I had to keep quiet
00:08:17because in 2006,
00:08:20the irony is in 2000,
00:08:23they wanted me to run
00:08:24for chairman of the Armed Services Committee.
00:08:26I actually have a one-page letter
00:08:28of endorsing me from Donald Rumsfeld,
00:08:32who at the time was the chairman
00:08:34of the Rumsfeld Commission on Missile Threats,
00:08:37a commission that I created.
00:08:39A session with threats
00:08:40coming from Russia and other nations,
00:08:42Iran, China, North Korea.
00:08:44That same year had a letter
00:08:46endorsing me from John Hamry,
00:08:48who was a deputy secretary of defense
00:08:50under Clinton.
00:08:51So both of those men endorsed me
00:08:53and encouraged me to run
00:08:54for chairman of the Armed Services Committee,
00:08:57along with 180 generals and admirals
00:09:00and top policy people in Washington.
00:09:03But at that time in Congress,
00:09:05we had an unwritten rule
00:09:06that you go by seniority.
00:09:08And I would have had to jump over
00:09:10five other members
00:09:11on the Republican side.
00:09:13And I didn't want to do that.
00:09:15I talked to DeLay and Hastert.
00:09:18And so I did not become chairman.
00:09:21I held back.
00:09:22But I was the vice chairman
00:09:24of the full committee
00:09:25under less aggressive members,
00:09:29Bob Stump from Arizona.
00:09:31But he gave me full reign.
00:09:33So in effect,
00:09:34I could do whatever I wanted
00:09:35as the vice chairman of the committee.
00:09:37And so I had strong bipartisan support,
00:09:4160 members of the committee.
00:09:42Everyone supported me,
00:09:43Democrats, Republicans,
00:09:44because I knew I didn't play politics
00:09:47with our national security.
00:09:48I didn't play politics with our soldiers
00:09:50and with their lives.
00:09:52I followed the Ronald Reagan model
00:09:54of strength, consistency, and candor.
00:09:56And a strong deterrence
00:09:58was the best way to protect America
00:10:00and not with the lives
00:10:02of our young heroes
00:10:03by setting them into harm's way.
00:10:06But that all changed in 2001
00:10:08with 9-11.
00:10:11And because I had been
00:10:11the spokesperson
00:10:12called the Firefighters in America
00:10:14as a former fire chief,
00:10:16I had been up
00:10:16at the World Trade Center in 93,
00:10:19the day after the attack,
00:10:21as the guest of Fire Commissioner
00:10:22Howard Safer
00:10:23and the DEA and the FBI
00:10:26that took me through
00:10:26the bombed-out parking garage.
00:10:28And I met a young officer
00:10:30in the New York Fire Department
00:10:31named Ray Downey.
00:10:32He became one of my close friends.
00:10:35And Ray encouraged me
00:10:36to create a commission
00:10:37to help prepare
00:10:39for another attack.
00:10:41I wrote the legislation
00:10:42created the Gilmore Commission,
00:10:44chaired by Virginia Governor
00:10:45Jim Gilmore.
00:10:47People don't talk
00:10:48about that commission.
00:10:49You can check the record.
00:10:50That commission had nine members
00:10:52created by the Congress
00:10:54as a result of the 93 attack.
00:10:56And that commission's job
00:10:58was to help us understand
00:10:59what went wrong
00:11:00with the first attack
00:11:01and how we could deal
00:11:03with essentially another attack.
00:11:05They issued five reports.
00:11:07And those five reports
00:11:08basically gave
00:11:10all the recommendations
00:11:11that the 9-11 commission
00:11:13took credit for
00:11:14after the 9-11 attack.
00:11:16But the Gilmore Commission
00:11:17was all done before 9-11.
00:11:20But the biggest recommendation
00:11:21they made,
00:11:22which was my recommendation,
00:11:24along with Ray Downey,
00:11:26was based on
00:11:27what the Army was doing
00:11:28at Port Belvoir.
00:11:29I was funding all the
00:11:31information-dominant centers
00:11:32of the services,
00:11:34the Navy's program,
00:11:35the Air Force's program
00:11:36out at Wright-Patterson,
00:11:40and the Army's program
00:11:41was at Port Belvoir
00:11:42at the Land Information
00:11:43Warfare Assessment Center.
00:11:45I was funding it
00:11:46as a part of the $180 billion
00:11:47of defense R&D,
00:11:49which I was chairing.
00:11:51So I would get down there
00:11:52and look at their capability,
00:11:53and I was really
00:11:54overwhelmingly impressed.
00:11:55I didn't get ready
00:11:56to the program.
00:11:57I didn't need to,
00:11:58but the process
00:11:58they were using,
00:11:59the software,
00:12:00like Starlight Inspires,
00:12:01was amazing.
00:12:03Based upon some things
00:12:04I saw them do,
00:12:06I had friends
00:12:07in the intelligence community
00:12:08put together a plan
00:12:10to create a fusion center.
00:12:11We called it the NOAH,
00:12:13N-O-A-H,
00:12:14National Operations Analysis Hub,
00:12:17Policymaker,
00:12:18and Warfighting School
00:12:18to deal with emerging
00:12:20transnational terror threats,
00:12:22combining all 33
00:12:23classified systems
00:12:25of the federal government.
00:12:27I went to the
00:12:28Deputy Secretary of Defense,
00:12:29John Hammering,
00:12:30who endorsed me
00:12:30for chairman.
00:12:32And I said,
00:12:33John, you've got to go
00:12:33see what your army's doing.
00:12:35He called me and said,
00:12:36Mr. Chairman,
00:12:37you're right.
00:12:38This is cutting edge.
00:12:39We need this.
00:12:40I said,
00:12:41I'm going to have
00:12:42my friends in Intel,
00:12:43not the CIA,
00:12:44not agency bureaucrats,
00:12:46my friends that I trust
00:12:47who are all veterans,
00:12:50I'm going to have them
00:12:50put together
00:12:51the proposal for me,
00:12:53the plan.
00:12:53But I called the NOAH.
00:12:55He looked at it
00:12:56and he said,
00:12:57it's great.
00:12:58We need it.
00:12:58I'll manage it.
00:13:00Can you get it funded?
00:13:01I said,
00:13:01I can get it funded.
00:13:02That's not a problem.
00:13:03He said,
00:13:04your challenge is
00:13:05you've got to get
00:13:05the two biggest agencies
00:13:06to agree to cooperate,
00:13:09the FBI and the CIA.
00:13:11If they don't allow
00:13:12their raw data to be used,
00:13:14it won't be a success.
00:13:16So on November the 4th of 1999,
00:13:19in my office,
00:13:20in the Rayburn building,
00:13:23I had the Deputy Secretary
00:13:24of Defense,
00:13:24John Hamry,
00:13:26the Deputy Director
00:13:26of the FBI,
00:13:27the Deputy Director
00:13:28of the CIA,
00:13:28all their names.
00:13:30I handed them
00:13:30the proposal
00:13:31to create the NOAH.
00:13:33John Hamry said,
00:13:34we need this.
00:13:36This needs to be
00:13:37either at the White House
00:13:38or wherever
00:13:38and I'll manage it.
00:13:40I said,
00:13:41I'll get it funded.
00:13:41The FBI said,
00:13:42it's great.
00:13:43We support it.
00:13:44And the CIA said,
00:13:46we don't want it.
00:13:48We don't want it.
00:13:50We're doing something
00:13:51called CI-21.
00:13:54For two successive years
00:13:55and people can check
00:13:57the record.
00:13:58I put language
00:13:59in the Defense Authorization Bill
00:14:01mandating a fusion center
00:14:03of data
00:14:04before 9-11.
00:14:06Before 9-11.
00:14:08Wow.
00:14:08What I found out
00:14:10on 9-11
00:14:11was
00:14:12having not been
00:14:14ready to the program,
00:14:15I found out
00:14:16very quickly
00:14:16when I got
00:14:18four calls.
00:14:19I got a call
00:14:20from all separate.
00:14:22I'm in my office.
00:14:24The trade center
00:14:25is under attack.
00:14:26The Pentagon
00:14:28is under attack.
00:14:29Lieutenant Colonel
00:14:30Anthony Schaefer,
00:14:31Army Intelligence
00:14:32Career Officer
00:14:32calls me and said,
00:14:33I got to see you
00:14:34right away,
00:14:35Congressman.
00:14:36I said,
00:14:36Tony,
00:14:37it's chaos over.
00:14:38He said,
00:14:38I got to see you.
00:14:39I hang the phone up
00:14:40and Dr. Eileen Prysner
00:14:42calls me,
00:14:43Career Air Force
00:14:44Intelligence
00:14:44analyst.
00:14:46She said,
00:14:46Congressman,
00:14:47Mr. Chairman,
00:14:47I've got to see you
00:14:48right away.
00:14:49I said,
00:14:49Eileen,
00:14:50I'm under attack.
00:14:53I've got to see you.
00:14:55I hung up the phone.
00:14:56Scott Philpott
00:14:57called me,
00:14:58Career Navy
00:14:59Intelligence Officer,
00:15:00Annapolis grad.
00:15:01Mr. Chairman,
00:15:02remember the program
00:15:03you've been funding?
00:15:04Yep.
00:15:05You got to see me.
00:15:06I got to tell you
00:15:06what we've been doing.
00:15:08I said,
00:15:09Scott,
00:15:09you're all calling me.
00:15:11He said,
00:15:11what we've been doing,
00:15:13you need to understand.
00:15:14The actual program
00:15:16that we were running
00:15:17based on the funding
00:15:18you were giving us.
00:15:20And then I got a call
00:15:21from Eric Kleinsman
00:15:22for Randalliwa,
00:15:24Afro Calvoire.
00:15:25I met with them
00:15:26each privately
00:15:26and one by one
00:15:29they told the same story
00:15:30independent.
00:15:33They had been tasked
00:15:34by General Hugh Shelton,
00:15:35Chairman of the Joint Chiefs,
00:15:36to create
00:15:37a capability
00:15:39of actionable intelligence
00:15:41against Al-Qaeda.
00:15:43The program
00:15:44was called
00:15:45Able Danger.
00:15:46It was top secret,
00:15:48highly classified,
00:15:48and I wasn't aware
00:15:50of that program
00:15:51until that moment.
00:15:53And they said,
00:15:54we've got to show you
00:15:55our charts.
00:15:56They brought me
00:15:57the charts.
00:15:58I have the charts.
00:16:00The charts
00:16:01are no longer classified
00:16:02so I can give them
00:16:02to you to show
00:16:03on your program
00:16:04if you want them.
00:16:05They're very complex.
00:16:07Sure, sure.
00:16:08Yes, sir.
00:16:08I showed them
00:16:09to Juan or Kevin today
00:16:10in Washington
00:16:11and he was a man.
00:16:14Those charts
00:16:15show every Al-Qaeda cell
00:16:16in the world
00:16:17by name
00:16:18and by face.
00:16:19Every one of them.
00:16:20Wow.
00:16:21Hundreds and hundreds
00:16:22of Al-Qaeda cells
00:16:23and they show
00:16:25the five key cells,
00:16:26one of which
00:16:27was in New York City,
00:16:28all of which
00:16:30had linkages
00:16:30back to
00:16:31Osama bin Laden
00:16:32and to
00:16:33the network.
00:16:35The second chart
00:16:36showed
00:16:36the link analysis
00:16:37of the connections.
00:16:40When I got the charts
00:16:41they said
00:16:43we've had this information
00:16:44for over a year.
00:16:46We tried to give it
00:16:47to the Justice Department
00:16:49three times.
00:16:50We had the name
00:16:51of the woman.
00:16:52In fact,
00:16:53she was a classmate
00:16:54of Colonel Schaefer's
00:16:55in high school
00:16:56so she will verify
00:16:58everything I'm telling you.
00:16:59They can't get out of this.
00:17:00They can't lie
00:17:01their way out of this.
00:17:03And three times
00:17:04they set the meetings up
00:17:05and three times
00:17:07the meetings
00:17:07were canceled
00:17:08before 9-11.
00:17:09They transferred
00:17:10the information
00:17:11about the new
00:17:12cell of Al-Qaeda
00:17:13with Mohammed Atta
00:17:15and the others
00:17:16pictured on the charts
00:17:18that they had produced
00:17:19in the Able Danger program.
00:17:21And all three times
00:17:23they were rebuffed.
00:17:24I was appalled.
00:17:26I called Hadley
00:17:27on the phone
00:17:28at the White House,
00:17:29Rice's deputy,
00:17:30and I said
00:17:30I've got to see you
00:17:31right away.
00:17:32I took two members
00:17:33of Congress with me
00:17:34just to verify
00:17:35what I was doing.
00:17:36I took Dan Burton
00:17:37and Chris Schaes.
00:17:39We went down
00:17:40to the White House
00:17:42for you.
00:17:43I met with Hadley.
00:17:44I rolled out the charts
00:17:45and he said to me,
00:17:46Mr. Chairman,
00:17:47where did you get
00:17:47these charts from?
00:17:49I said,
00:17:49Steve,
00:17:50since you came
00:17:50into office in January,
00:17:52I've been telling you
00:17:53that the Clinton administration
00:17:54for the last two years
00:17:56has refused
00:17:57to implement
00:17:58a fusion center
00:17:59of our intelligence
00:18:00that the Army
00:18:01came up with
00:18:01a model for
00:18:02and you ignored me.
00:18:05I said,
00:18:05I put language
00:18:06in two successive
00:18:07defense bills
00:18:07and you ignored it.
00:18:09This is the result
00:18:10of that work.
00:18:12They identified
00:18:13the New York Shell
00:18:15two years before 9-11
00:18:17and identified
00:18:18Mohammed Atta
00:18:19and part of the terrorist group
00:18:22a year before 9-11.
00:18:23He said,
00:18:23I've got to show
00:18:24these to the man.
00:18:26I said,
00:18:26the man?
00:18:27He said,
00:18:28the man,
00:18:28the president.
00:18:31I said,
00:18:31you mean the president
00:18:32doesn't know
00:18:32this?
00:18:33He said,
00:18:33no.
00:18:34He took the charts.
00:18:36I still have the charts
00:18:37and I will make
00:18:39those charts available
00:18:40for your people
00:18:40to view
00:18:41in detail
00:18:42and you can see
00:18:44everything
00:18:44that the Army did.
00:18:46Now,
00:18:48the Able Danger Commission
00:18:49after 9-11,
00:18:51both parties,
00:18:52and I'm a Republican,
00:18:54they didn't want
00:18:55an investigation
00:18:56of 9-11.
00:18:57No.
00:18:58They didn't want
00:18:59people to know
00:19:00what we knew.
00:19:02The Bush administration
00:19:03didn't want it known
00:19:04and obviously
00:19:05the Clinton administration
00:19:06didn't want it known.
00:19:07That's why
00:19:08Sandy Berger
00:19:08stole the documents
00:19:09out of the archives
00:19:10when he went down there
00:19:11and stuffed them
00:19:12in his underwear
00:19:12and his socks.
00:19:14He committed
00:19:1411 felonies.
00:19:15Now,
00:19:16listen carefully.
00:19:17Sandy Berger
00:19:18committed 11 felonies.
00:19:20He stole
00:19:21five classified documents,
00:19:22stuffed them
00:19:23in his pants
00:19:23and underwear,
00:19:25took them out,
00:19:26destroyed those five documents,
00:19:27and lied to a federal agent.
00:19:28That's 11 felonies.
00:19:31He put it down
00:19:31to one misdemeanor.
00:19:33One misdemeanor.
00:19:35No jail time.
00:19:37One year
00:19:38he lost his clearance.
00:19:40You know,
00:19:41folks,
00:19:41so the folks go,
00:19:44how do folks,
00:19:46two tiers of justice,
00:19:48right?
00:19:48He gets away with this,
00:19:49but you or I,
00:19:50we'd be
00:19:50if you did one felony,
00:19:54you'd be in jail.
00:19:5511 felonies.
00:19:56Not only did he not go to jail,
00:19:58but Sandy Berger,
00:20:00who was a scumbag,
00:20:01a scumbag,
00:20:02no other word,
00:20:03scumbag,
00:20:04after he left Clinton
00:20:05and was no longer
00:20:08in the government,
00:20:08he formed a company.
00:20:09You know what company
00:20:10he formed?
00:20:11Oh,
00:20:12sir.
00:20:12It's called Stonebridge.
00:20:14You know what Stonebridge
00:20:15purpose was?
00:20:17Represent Chinese corporations.
00:20:18He brought Madeleine Albright
00:20:21into the company.
00:20:22Today,
00:20:23the company's called
00:20:23Albright Stonebridge.
00:20:24Look it up.
00:20:26That was started
00:20:26by Sandy Berger.
00:20:28I was on the Cox Commission
00:20:29in the mid-1990s.
00:20:32It was established
00:20:33by the Congress.
00:20:34There were nine people
00:20:35on the commission.
00:20:36All of them were either
00:20:37committee chairs
00:20:37or ranking members
00:20:38except me.
00:20:40New put me on
00:20:41the Cox Commission.
00:20:43We investigated
00:20:43for five months
00:20:44behind closed doors
00:20:45the alleged theft
00:20:47of our best technology
00:20:49by China.
00:20:51Alleged theft.
00:20:53We didn't have
00:20:54any public hearings.
00:20:55It was all
00:20:55classified information.
00:20:58When we got done
00:20:58our work,
00:21:00Chris Cox,
00:21:00the chairman,
00:21:01wanted to have
00:21:02a unanimous vote.
00:21:03And the vote
00:21:04was unanimous.
00:21:05Nine to zero.
00:21:07Our security
00:21:08had been severely harmed.
00:21:11Severely harmed
00:21:12by the transfer
00:21:13of sensitive technology
00:21:15to China.
00:21:17But I told
00:21:19Chris Cox,
00:21:19Chris,
00:21:20you know why
00:21:21it was transferred.
00:21:22Because I went back
00:21:23to my friends
00:21:24in Intel,
00:21:25not through the CIA
00:21:26because they would
00:21:27never give me this.
00:21:28Not through the CIA.
00:21:30They would never
00:21:30give me this.
00:21:31I went through
00:21:32my friends
00:21:33who were all
00:21:33ex-vets
00:21:34who worked
00:21:35for the agencies
00:21:35and they gave me
00:21:37the same charts
00:21:37and I'll give you
00:21:38those charts.
00:21:40I have both sets
00:21:40of those charts.
00:21:42And they'll show you
00:21:43everything
00:21:43that China acquired
00:21:44from us.
00:21:45They didn't steal it.
00:21:47You'll see
00:21:47that we made decisions
00:21:48of ignoring
00:21:50arms control
00:21:51treaty requirements.
00:21:53We waived sanctions.
00:21:55We waived limitations
00:21:57on technology.
00:21:58And all of that
00:21:59was done
00:22:00in exchange
00:22:01for campaign donations.
00:22:03The DNC
00:22:04and the Clinton
00:22:05campaign.
00:22:06Going to what
00:22:07you're saying here,
00:22:07just today
00:22:08a story comes out.
00:22:09John Solomon
00:22:10puts it on
00:22:10Just the News.
00:22:11Carrie Lake
00:22:12finds this
00:22:13and stops it
00:22:15and highlights it
00:22:16but we've had
00:22:17senior VOA members
00:22:18meeting with
00:22:19CCP officials
00:22:20to give China
00:22:20more favor
00:22:21press coverage
00:22:22by VOA.
00:22:24Well,
00:22:25I can tell you
00:22:26back in the
00:22:27mid-90s
00:22:27for campaign
00:22:29donations
00:22:30and I have
00:22:30the charts
00:22:31and you can
00:22:31again have
00:22:32access to them
00:22:32and they have
00:22:33all the link
00:22:34analysis showing
00:22:35you the front
00:22:36companies that
00:22:36the PLA
00:22:37established
00:22:38specifically to
00:22:39target our
00:22:39universities
00:22:40like Stanford
00:22:42out in California
00:22:42where Condi Rice
00:22:44have been
00:22:45approved
00:22:45and those
00:22:46universities
00:22:47and corporations
00:22:48were used
00:22:49to target
00:22:50specific
00:22:50very sensitive
00:22:52technology
00:22:52to go to China.
00:22:54One of them
00:22:54was Loral Corporation.
00:22:56The CEO
00:22:57was Bernie Schwartz.
00:22:59Loral Corporation
00:23:00transferred
00:23:01stage separation
00:23:02technology to China
00:23:03for their
00:23:04multi-stage missiles.
00:23:05They didn't have
00:23:05that technology.
00:23:07To have a
00:23:07long-range missile
00:23:08you need to be
00:23:09able to have
00:23:09multi-stages
00:23:10not just one
00:23:11stage
00:23:12which China
00:23:13didn't have.
00:23:13Russia had it,
00:23:14China didn't.
00:23:15Loral Corporation
00:23:16got caught
00:23:17giving them
00:23:17that technology.
00:23:18That was a
00:23:19violation.
00:23:20The Justice
00:23:20Department
00:23:21and you can
00:23:22research this
00:23:23was ready
00:23:24to indict
00:23:25Bernie Schwartz
00:23:26the CEO
00:23:27and listen
00:23:28carefully
00:23:281995
00:23:29Sandy Berger
00:23:33arranged a
00:23:34retroactive
00:23:35presidential
00:23:36waiver.
00:23:36a retroactive
00:23:38presidential
00:23:39waiver.
00:23:40The technology
00:23:41was already
00:23:42transferred.
00:23:43The retroactive
00:23:44waiver
00:23:45protected
00:23:46Bernie Schwartz
00:23:46and Loral
00:23:47and that
00:23:48year
00:23:49Bernie Schwartz
00:23:50became the
00:23:51single biggest
00:23:51cash donor
00:23:52to the
00:23:53Democrat
00:23:53Party.
00:23:54I put all
00:23:54the donations
00:23:55in the
00:23:55congressional
00:23:55record.
00:23:56So anyone
00:23:57that wants
00:23:57to challenge
00:23:58me
00:23:58go back
00:23:59to the
00:23:59congressional
00:23:59record
00:24:00and you'll
00:24:01see my
00:24:01list of all
00:24:02the donations
00:24:03that were made
00:24:04by Bernie
00:24:05Schwartz.
00:24:06That's what
00:24:07we did
00:24:07in the
00:24:0790s.
00:24:08This stuff
00:24:08didn't start
00:24:09in the
00:24:102000s.
00:24:11This started
00:24:11under the
00:24:12Clintons.
00:24:12Let me
00:24:12give you
00:24:12one more
00:24:12story.
00:24:14Hillary
00:24:14Clinton
00:24:14is a
00:24:15scumbag
00:24:15and so
00:24:16is her
00:24:16husband.
00:24:18She
00:24:18concocted
00:24:19this story
00:24:20along with
00:24:21the 51
00:24:21other
00:24:22intelligence
00:24:23people that
00:24:24lost their
00:24:24clearances
00:24:24that Russia
00:24:27was aggressively
00:24:28interfering with
00:24:29our election.
00:24:30As you know
00:24:30now we have
00:24:31Obama
00:24:31implicated in
00:24:32this.
00:24:32But this
00:24:33is all
00:24:33Hillary Clinton
00:24:34said for
00:24:35months and
00:24:35months and
00:24:36months.
00:24:36Let's go
00:24:37back to
00:24:371996.
00:24:40Boris Yeltsin
00:24:41was running
00:24:41for re-election
00:24:42in Russia.
00:24:44He was an
00:24:44unpopular
00:24:45drunk.
00:24:46His popularity
00:24:47had sunk
00:24:47to 20%.
00:24:48But Boris
00:24:50Yeltsin
00:24:50was our
00:24:51president,
00:24:52meaning
00:24:52Clinton's
00:24:53president.
00:24:54We were
00:24:59siphoning
00:25:00money out
00:25:00of Russia
00:25:00left and
00:25:01right.
00:25:01I went
00:25:02over and
00:25:02investigated
00:25:03on behalf
00:25:03of the
00:25:04members of
00:25:04the Russian
00:25:05Duma
00:25:05that knew
00:25:06this was
00:25:06happening.
00:25:07They wanted
00:25:07to impeach
00:25:07Yeltsin.
00:25:08They came
00:25:08within eight
00:25:09votes of
00:25:09impeaching
00:25:10him because
00:25:10they knew
00:25:11he was
00:25:11stealing
00:25:11money,
00:25:12running it
00:25:12through his
00:25:12daughter,
00:25:12Tatiana
00:25:13Daichenko,
00:25:14the biggest
00:25:14crook in
00:25:14Russia today.
00:25:16So they
00:25:16knew this
00:25:16was happening.
00:25:17The money
00:25:18was coming
00:25:18out of Russia
00:25:19into the
00:25:19Clintons and
00:25:20their pockets
00:25:21and their
00:25:21friends.
00:25:22So in
00:25:221996,
00:25:23when Yeltsin
00:25:24was about to
00:25:24lose his
00:25:25election,
00:25:25they did
00:25:26something.
00:25:28If you get
00:25:28the 1996
00:25:31of Time
00:25:32Magazine,
00:25:33if your
00:25:34viewers don't
00:25:35have it,
00:25:35I'll give it
00:25:36to you and
00:25:37you can show
00:25:37it.
00:25:38The front
00:25:39cover is
00:25:39Boris Yeltsin's
00:25:40face and
00:25:41the headline,
00:25:43the U.S.
00:25:43secret plan
00:25:44to reelect
00:25:45Boris Yeltsin,
00:25:46Bill Clinton's
00:25:47plan to run
00:25:49the campaign
00:25:49of Boris
00:25:50Yeltsin.
00:25:51So in
00:25:521996,
00:25:54we sent
00:25:55operatives
00:25:56to the
00:25:57International
00:25:58Hotel in
00:25:59Moscow to
00:26:00stay and
00:26:00run the
00:26:01Yeltsin's
00:26:02re-election
00:26:02campaign.
00:26:03So the
00:26:04Clintons ran
00:26:05that campaign
00:26:05to get
00:26:06money while
00:26:07she's blaming
00:26:08in a lie
00:26:09claiming that
00:26:10Trump is
00:26:11being impacted
00:26:12by Russia.
00:26:13What an
00:26:14absolute
00:26:14disgusting
00:26:15disgrace.
00:26:16And it's
00:26:17not me
00:26:17saying it,
00:26:18it's a
00:26:18copy of
00:26:19Time
00:26:19Magazine.
00:26:20Front
00:26:20cover edition,
00:26:21it's a
00:26:21huge expose
00:26:22and it's
00:26:23probably 20
00:26:24pages inside
00:26:25of top
00:26:26secret
00:26:26information
00:26:27that Time
00:26:28Magazine
00:26:28published about
00:26:29how the
00:26:30U.S.
00:26:30re-elected
00:26:31our guy
00:26:32so that we
00:26:33could continue
00:26:33stealing money
00:26:34from Russia,
00:26:36from the Russian
00:26:37people that
00:26:38largely went to
00:26:38the Clintons.
00:26:39Bill Clinton
00:26:40and Hillary,
00:26:41besides the
00:26:41nuclear deal,
00:26:42they made
00:26:43money left
00:26:43and right.
00:26:44I remember
00:26:44Bill Clinton
00:26:45got $500,000
00:26:46for one speech
00:26:47he did for
00:26:48Mayor Lushkov's
00:26:48wife.
00:26:49No one has
00:26:50ever brought
00:26:50that out
00:26:51because our
00:26:51media is so
00:26:52stinking
00:26:52obsessed with
00:26:54lies.
00:26:54They don't
00:26:54know how to
00:26:55check the
00:26:56facts.
00:26:56I saw it
00:26:57all.
00:26:57I witnessed
00:26:57it all and
00:26:59that's what's
00:26:59wrong in our
00:26:59country.
00:27:00That's got to
00:27:01change.
00:27:01All of this
00:27:02was happening
00:27:02and it got
00:27:04worse under
00:27:05unfortunately Bush
00:27:06Jr.
00:27:07I'm a Republican.
00:27:08Bush Jr.
00:27:09was not in
00:27:09control.
00:27:11The agenda
00:27:11was controlled
00:27:12by Cheney,
00:27:13Rumsfeld,
00:27:14Rice,
00:27:15and Roto,
00:27:16the people
00:27:17around Bush.
00:27:18You think he
00:27:20was a figurehead,
00:27:20sir?
00:27:21He was a figurehead.
00:27:22I was on
00:27:23Air Force
00:27:23One on one
00:27:24trip.
00:27:24He called
00:27:24me up to
00:27:25the Oval
00:27:25Office and
00:27:26he said,
00:27:27all right,
00:27:27Kurt,
00:27:27tell me about
00:27:28Russia.
00:27:28Now,
00:27:28remember,
00:27:29it was
00:27:29George Bush,
00:27:3043,
00:27:32who made
00:27:32the famous
00:27:33national,
00:27:34international
00:27:34speech after
00:27:36he met
00:27:36Putin.
00:27:37I looked
00:27:37in his
00:27:37eye,
00:27:38I saw
00:27:39his inner
00:27:39soul,
00:27:40and I
00:27:40realized this
00:27:41was a man
00:27:42I could
00:27:42trust.
00:27:43Now,
00:27:43I didn't
00:27:43say that.
00:27:45George W.
00:27:46Bush said
00:27:46that.
00:27:47So I
00:27:47figured I
00:27:48campaigned
00:27:49for this
00:27:49guy.
00:27:50He's my
00:27:50president.
00:27:51If he's
00:27:52saying that,
00:27:52he must
00:27:53have
00:27:53information
00:27:54that Putin
00:27:55is our
00:27:55guy.
00:27:57Now,
00:27:57I knew
00:27:57Putin had
00:27:58sent a
00:27:59team over
00:27:59to the
00:27:59Republican
00:28:00Convention
00:28:00because the
00:28:01convention
00:28:01was in
00:28:02Philadelphia.
00:28:03And I
00:28:03knew the
00:28:03first person
00:28:04that called
00:28:04George Bush
00:28:05after 9-11
00:28:06was Putin
00:28:07to offer
00:28:08his troops
00:28:08intelligence,
00:28:09and we
00:28:09actually placed
00:28:10troops in
00:28:11Soviet military
00:28:12bases in
00:28:12Georgia and
00:28:13Uzbekistan.
00:28:14So George
00:28:15Bush comes
00:28:15out and
00:28:16says,
00:28:17I looked
00:28:17in his
00:28:18eyes,
00:28:18I saw
00:28:18that he
00:28:19was a guy
00:28:20I could
00:28:20trust.
00:28:21So on
00:28:21Air Force
00:28:22One,
00:28:22he says
00:28:23to me,
00:28:23tell me
00:28:24about Russia.
00:28:24You're
00:28:25losing
00:28:25Russia.
00:28:26Putin took
00:28:27the risk.
00:28:28He thought
00:28:29you were
00:28:29going to
00:28:29work with
00:28:29him based
00:28:30upon what
00:28:30you said
00:28:31and change
00:28:32the relationship.
00:28:32Are you
00:28:32spitting
00:28:33his face?
00:28:34He's a CIA.
00:28:35He's an
00:28:35intelligence
00:28:36operative.
00:28:36He's not
00:28:37a politician.
00:28:38Their
00:28:38economy's
00:28:38bad.
00:28:40Those
00:28:40hardliners
00:28:40over in
00:28:41Moscow are
00:28:41laughing at
00:28:42him and
00:28:42you've not
00:28:42given him
00:28:43anything to
00:28:44show
00:28:44success.
00:28:45So I
00:28:46said,
00:28:46he said,
00:28:46wait a minute,
00:28:47give me an
00:28:48example.
00:28:48I said,
00:28:48okay,
00:28:49Mr.
00:28:49President,
00:28:49what have
00:28:49you given
00:28:50Putin in
00:28:51the way of
00:28:51a win since
00:28:52you support
00:28:53him?
00:28:54He said,
00:28:54well,
00:28:54what do
00:28:54you mean?
00:28:55I said,
00:28:55well,
00:28:56I can't
00:28:56think of
00:28:56one thing
00:28:57you've
00:28:57done.
00:28:58Now,
00:28:58he offered
00:28:58you to
00:28:59help after
00:28:599-11 and
00:29:00you took
00:29:00it.
00:29:01We put
00:29:01our military
00:29:01in their
00:29:02bases.
00:29:03And you did
00:29:03other things.
00:29:04What have
00:29:04you done
00:29:05for him?
00:29:05He said,
00:29:06well,
00:29:06give me an
00:29:06example of
00:29:06what we got.
00:29:07I said,
00:29:07Jackson
00:29:07Vanek.
00:29:08Jackson
00:29:09Vanek was
00:29:09a trade
00:29:10restriction
00:29:10that was
00:29:11imposed on
00:29:12the Soviet
00:29:12Union when
00:29:13they were
00:29:13persecuting
00:29:13Jews.
00:29:14And I
00:29:14was a big
00:29:14supporter of
00:29:15that.
00:29:15I was
00:29:16just sitting
00:29:16in the
00:29:16home of
00:29:16Soviet
00:29:17refusings
00:29:17when I
00:29:18went over
00:29:18when it
00:29:18was the
00:29:19Soviet
00:29:19Union.
00:29:20I said,
00:29:20it no
00:29:20longer
00:29:21applies
00:29:21because when
00:29:22the Soviet
00:29:23Union
00:29:23broke
00:29:23apart,
00:29:24the Jews
00:29:24became the
00:29:25oligarchs.
00:29:26They
00:29:26weren't being
00:29:27oppressed
00:29:27anymore.
00:29:28They
00:29:28were able
00:29:28to travel
00:29:29to Israel.
00:29:30That's no
00:29:30longer an
00:29:30issue,
00:29:31but it's
00:29:31a stigma.
00:29:32We
00:29:32removed
00:29:33Jackson
00:29:33Vanek
00:29:34from 13
00:29:34of the
00:29:3515
00:29:35republics.
00:29:36We
00:29:36didn't
00:29:36remove
00:29:37it from
00:29:37Russia
00:29:37or
00:29:37Ukraine.
00:29:38Give
00:29:38him
00:29:39Jackson
00:29:40Vanek.
00:29:40The
00:29:41Jewish
00:29:41groups in
00:29:41America,
00:29:42like
00:29:42AIPAC
00:29:42and
00:29:43JINSA,
00:29:43they
00:29:43won't
00:29:43care.
00:29:44I
00:29:44know
00:29:44because
00:29:45I
00:29:45work
00:29:45with
00:29:45them.
00:29:46The
00:29:46president
00:29:47says to
00:29:47me,
00:29:48he
00:29:48leans
00:29:48up
00:29:48for
00:29:48the
00:29:48chair.
00:29:49Wait a
00:29:50minute,
00:29:50congressman,
00:29:50that's
00:29:51your job.
00:29:52At the
00:29:52other end
00:29:52of
00:29:52Pennsylvania
00:29:53Avenue,
00:29:54you
00:29:54pass
00:29:54the
00:29:55Jackson
00:29:55Vanek
00:29:55legislation
00:29:56and
00:29:56I'll
00:29:56sign
00:29:57it
00:29:57because
00:29:57I
00:29:57agree
00:29:58with
00:29:58you.
00:29:58That's
00:29:58your
00:29:59job.
00:29:59Okay,
00:30:00Mr.
00:30:00President,
00:30:01can I
00:30:01be honest
00:30:01with you?
00:30:02Sure.
00:30:03I said,
00:30:04I sit
00:30:04on the
00:30:04steering
00:30:04committee
00:30:05for the
00:30:05Republican
00:30:05Party
00:30:06in the
00:30:06House.
00:30:07I represent
00:30:08five states
00:30:08in the
00:30:08mid-Atlantic
00:30:09region so I
00:30:09can vote
00:30:10on committee
00:30:10chairs.
00:30:11When
00:30:11Bill
00:30:11Thomas,
00:30:12the
00:30:12chairman
00:30:12of
00:30:12Ways
00:30:12and
00:30:12Means,
00:30:13came
00:30:14into our
00:30:14steering
00:30:15committee
00:30:15meeting and
00:30:16asked for
00:30:16our vote,
00:30:17we
00:30:17elected
00:30:17chairman,
00:30:18I
00:30:18asked
00:30:18him if
00:30:19he
00:30:19would
00:30:19support
00:30:20elevating
00:30:21Russia and
00:30:21Ukraine out
00:30:22of Jackson
00:30:22Bannock as
00:30:23we did
00:30:23for the
00:30:24other 13
00:30:25republics.
00:30:26And Bill
00:30:27Thomas said,
00:30:27of course I
00:30:28will,
00:30:28Kurt.
00:30:29I've been in
00:30:30favor of that
00:30:30since the
00:30:31Soviet Union
00:30:31broke apart.
00:30:32And I
00:30:32said,
00:30:32well,
00:30:32then why
00:30:33do you
00:30:33do it,
00:30:33Bill?
00:30:34And Mr.
00:30:35President,
00:30:36chairman
00:30:37Thomas said,
00:30:38because
00:30:38Condoleezza
00:30:39Rice told
00:30:40me not to
00:30:40do it.
00:30:42The
00:30:42president
00:30:43got all
00:30:43red in
00:30:43the face.
00:30:44He
00:30:45said,
00:30:45you mean
00:30:45Condi
00:30:46blocking
00:30:46Jackson
00:30:47Bannock?
00:30:47I
00:30:47said,
00:30:48yes,
00:30:48Mr.
00:30:48President.
00:30:49He
00:30:49picks up
00:30:50the
00:30:50phone
00:30:50on Air
00:30:50Force
00:30:50One.
00:30:51He
00:30:52said,
00:30:52get me
00:30:52Condi.
00:30:53She
00:30:53wasn't
00:30:53available.
00:30:54I'll
00:30:55take a
00:30:55polygraph
00:30:56on
00:30:56everything
00:30:56I
00:30:56just
00:30:56told
00:30:57you.
00:30:58That's
00:30:58what
00:30:58happened
00:30:59over
00:30:59and
00:31:00over
00:31:00and
00:31:00over
00:31:00again
00:31:01around
00:31:02Bush.
00:31:02He
00:31:02had
00:31:02no
00:31:03clue.
00:31:04The
00:31:04Russians
00:31:05offered
00:31:05a
00:31:05bilateral
00:31:06to
00:31:07oversee
00:31:07nuclear
00:31:07fissile
00:31:08material
00:31:08going
00:31:08to
00:31:09Iran.
00:31:09The
00:31:10offer
00:31:10was
00:31:10made
00:31:10by
00:31:11the
00:31:11head
00:31:11of
00:31:11Kurchatov
00:31:11Institute,
00:31:12Dr.
00:31:13Evgeny
00:31:13Velikov.
00:31:14I took
00:31:15Lindsey
00:31:15Graham
00:31:15and I
00:31:16took
00:31:17Roger
00:31:17Wicker
00:31:17with me
00:31:18to
00:31:18Moscow
00:31:19to meet
00:31:20with the
00:31:20Minister
00:31:20of Atomic
00:31:21Energy,
00:31:21Mikhailov.
00:31:22They were
00:31:23with me.
00:31:23I have
00:31:24the
00:31:24photograph
00:31:24when I
00:31:25pressed
00:31:25him
00:31:25about
00:31:26helping
00:31:26Iran.
00:31:27He
00:31:28wouldn't
00:31:28cooperate.
00:31:29Velikov,
00:31:30the head
00:31:30of
00:31:30Kurchatov,
00:31:31came to
00:31:31me when
00:31:32Bush was
00:31:33in office
00:31:33in 2003.
00:31:35He said,
00:31:35Kurt,
00:31:35I've
00:31:36talked to
00:31:36Putin.
00:31:37He
00:31:38will allow
00:31:38us to
00:31:38establish a
00:31:39bilateral.
00:31:40The
00:31:40bilateral
00:31:41will be
00:31:4150-50
00:31:42overseeing
00:31:43all
00:31:44fissile
00:31:44material
00:31:45going
00:31:45into
00:31:45Iran.
00:31:46The
00:31:46people
00:31:47around
00:31:47George
00:31:48Bush
00:31:49Jr.
00:31:50turned
00:31:51Russia
00:31:51down.
00:31:52It's
00:31:53not
00:31:53just
00:31:53that.
00:31:54I
00:31:55had
00:31:55Putin's
00:31:56best
00:31:57friend
00:31:57from
00:31:58the
00:31:58FSB
00:31:58come
00:31:59to
00:31:59my
00:31:59office.
00:32:00You
00:32:00knew
00:32:00who
00:32:00that
00:32:00is?
00:32:03Who
00:32:03was
00:32:03Bush's
00:32:04boss
00:32:04in
00:32:04the
00:32:05KGB
00:32:05FSB,
00:32:06you
00:32:06know?
00:32:07I
00:32:08don't
00:32:08know,
00:32:08Kurt,
00:32:09no.
00:32:09General
00:32:10Chemisev.
00:32:11Sergey
00:32:11Chemisev
00:32:12was the
00:32:12head of
00:32:12the
00:32:12KGB
00:32:13FSB.
00:32:14Putin's
00:32:15close to
00:32:15Craig.
00:32:15Still
00:32:16today,
00:32:17I
00:32:17had met
00:32:17Chemisev
00:32:18because when
00:32:19Putin went
00:32:20in,
00:32:20Chemisev
00:32:21left the
00:32:21KGB
00:32:22and Putin
00:32:23formed an
00:32:23organization
00:32:24called
00:32:25Ross
00:32:26Technology,
00:32:27which was
00:32:27overseeing all
00:32:28manufacturing in
00:32:29Russia,
00:32:30military and
00:32:31non-military.
00:32:32One
00:32:32entity.
00:32:33I was at a
00:32:34delegation in
00:32:35Moscow at
00:32:36Bauman University
00:32:36when it was
00:32:37created.
00:32:38They brought
00:32:38my delegation
00:32:39backstage.
00:32:40We met
00:32:40Chemisev and
00:32:42he said to
00:32:42me,
00:32:42Mr.
00:32:43Chairman,
00:32:43we're happy
00:32:44you're here.
00:32:45I want your
00:32:45members to
00:32:46know my
00:32:47goal is to
00:32:48have Russian
00:32:48companies work
00:32:49with American
00:32:50companies.
00:32:51I said,
00:32:51well,
00:32:52you know,
00:32:52General,
00:32:53that's great.
00:32:53I said,
00:32:54I can't do
00:32:55anything about
00:32:55that.
00:32:55I'm in the
00:32:55Congress,
00:32:56but our
00:32:57agencies,
00:32:57I think,
00:32:58will help
00:32:58you do
00:32:58that.
00:32:59I went
00:32:59back to
00:33:00Washington.
00:33:00when Putin
00:33:02didn't get
00:33:03the response
00:33:04that he
00:33:05thought Bush
00:33:05was going
00:33:06to give
00:33:06him based
00:33:06upon Bush's
00:33:07public
00:33:08statements and
00:33:09the things
00:33:09Putin had
00:33:10done for
00:33:10him,
00:33:12Chemisev
00:33:13comes to
00:33:13my office
00:33:13in the
00:33:14Rayburn
00:33:14building.
00:33:15He had
00:33:16been getting
00:33:16health care
00:33:17treatment in
00:33:17the U.S.
00:33:18and a
00:33:19mutual friend
00:33:20from Russia
00:33:20knew me,
00:33:21said,
00:33:22Sergei Chemisev
00:33:23wants to
00:33:23come meet
00:33:24you.
00:33:24I said,
00:33:25whoa,
00:33:25the former
00:33:26head of the
00:33:26KGB wants
00:33:27to come to
00:33:27my office.
00:33:29Yes,
00:33:29not a
00:33:29private
00:33:30meeting,
00:33:30in the
00:33:30Rayburn
00:33:31building
00:33:31during
00:33:32business
00:33:32hour.
00:33:33Okay,
00:33:34three minutes.
00:33:36Sergei Chemisev
00:33:36comes to
00:33:37my office,
00:33:38former
00:33:38head of
00:33:39the KGB
00:33:39FSB,
00:33:40Putin's
00:33:40best friend,
00:33:41the head
00:33:41of Ross
00:33:42Technology,
00:33:42and this
00:33:42is what
00:33:43he says
00:33:43to me,
00:33:43now listen
00:33:43carefully.
00:33:46I said,
00:33:46Daniel,
00:33:47why are you
00:33:47coming to
00:33:48see me?
00:33:49Why aren't
00:33:49you at the
00:33:49State Department?
00:33:51He said,
00:33:51President Putin
00:33:52doesn't trust
00:33:53our foreign
00:33:53ministry and
00:33:55doesn't trust
00:33:55your State
00:33:56Department.
00:33:57So I'm
00:33:59here on a
00:33:59semi-official
00:34:00visit through
00:34:00you.
00:34:01We know
00:34:02you and
00:34:03Steny Hoyer
00:34:03are our
00:34:03co-chairs
00:34:04on Duma
00:34:05Congress.
00:34:06We can
00:34:06trust you.
00:34:07And what
00:34:07do you
00:34:07want me
00:34:08to do?
00:34:09We'd
00:34:09like you
00:34:10to set
00:34:10three
00:34:10meetings.
00:34:11Okay,
00:34:12with who?
00:34:13The State
00:34:13Department,
00:34:14the Pentagon,
00:34:15and the
00:34:16White House.
00:34:17Well,
00:34:17I can set
00:34:18meetings up,
00:34:18that's not
00:34:19a problem.
00:34:19I'm vice
00:34:19chairman of
00:34:20both armed
00:34:20services and
00:34:21Homeland
00:34:21Security,
00:34:22and I'm
00:34:23co-chairman of
00:34:24Duma
00:34:24Congress,
00:34:24I can do
00:34:25that.
00:34:26But I need
00:34:26to know what
00:34:27you're going
00:34:27to say in
00:34:28advance.
00:34:29That's what
00:34:30he said,
00:34:30and listen
00:34:30carefully.
00:34:32President
00:34:33Putin is
00:34:33offering to
00:34:34President
00:34:34Bush a
00:34:36bilateral,
00:34:37just like
00:34:38the one
00:34:38for Iran
00:34:39nuclear
00:34:39fissile
00:34:40material.
00:34:41He said,
00:34:42I control
00:34:42all of
00:34:42Russia's
00:34:43manufacturers.
00:34:44We will
00:34:45establish a
00:34:45bilateral that
00:34:46any time
00:34:47one of your
00:34:47enemies tries
00:34:49to buy
00:34:49weapons from
00:34:49one of our
00:34:50companies,
00:34:51we will
00:34:51consult with
00:34:52the U.S.
00:34:52first.
00:34:54In other
00:34:54words,
00:34:55giving us
00:34:56a veto
00:34:56over any
00:34:57sale of
00:34:58weapons
00:34:58systems to
00:34:59any of
00:35:00our
00:35:00enemies.
00:35:01I almost
00:35:01fell off
00:35:02my chair.
00:35:04I set
00:35:05the meetings
00:35:05up at
00:35:06the Pentagon
00:35:07and the
00:35:08State Department.
00:35:08The CIA
00:35:09called my
00:35:09staff and
00:35:10said,
00:35:10tell your
00:35:10boss not
00:35:11to go to
00:35:11the meetings.
00:35:12I said,
00:35:12I don't
00:35:13care what
00:35:13the CIA
00:35:13says,
00:35:14I'm going
00:35:14to the
00:35:14meeting.
00:35:15I went
00:35:16with
00:35:16Chemisek
00:35:16to both
00:35:17meetings.
00:35:18I had
00:35:18the names
00:35:18of who
00:35:19was at
00:35:19the
00:35:19meetings.
00:35:20I
00:35:20have the
00:35:20names
00:35:21in my
00:35:21records.
00:35:23What I
00:35:23just told
00:35:24you,
00:35:24Chemisek
00:35:24told the
00:35:25State
00:35:25Department
00:35:26and the
00:35:27Pentagon.
00:35:28Then it
00:35:29was time
00:35:29to go to
00:35:29the White
00:35:30House.
00:35:31I called
00:35:32Hadley.
00:35:34I said,
00:35:34Steve,
00:35:36Sergey Chemisek's
00:35:36here.
00:35:38He wants
00:35:38to establish
00:35:39an opportunity
00:35:40to give
00:35:43President Bush
00:35:44a win.
00:35:46He wants
00:35:46to meet
00:35:46with you
00:35:47or Condoleez
00:35:47the Rice.
00:35:48He said,
00:35:49Congress,
00:35:49I can't bring
00:35:50that man to the
00:35:50West.
00:35:51You know
00:35:51what he
00:35:51was.
00:35:52I said,
00:35:52George Bush,
00:35:53the father,
00:35:54was out of
00:35:54the CIA.
00:35:56I said,
00:35:56I'm telling
00:35:57you,
00:35:57you'll be
00:35:57happy when
00:35:57you hear
00:35:58what he
00:35:58wants to
00:35:58say.
00:35:58He said,
00:36:00I'll tell
00:36:00you what,
00:36:01set the
00:36:01meeting up
00:36:01in the
00:36:02basement
00:36:02of the
00:36:02Hay Adams
00:36:02Hotel,
00:36:03in the
00:36:03bar.
00:36:04I'd never
00:36:04been to
00:36:05the
00:36:05bar.
00:36:06I said,
00:36:06okay,
00:36:06you want
00:36:07to meet
00:36:07there?
00:36:07He said,
00:36:08either I'll
00:36:08come or
00:36:08I'll send
00:36:09someone.
00:36:10I get
00:36:10in the
00:36:11car with
00:36:11my
00:36:11staff.
00:36:12We're
00:36:12driving
00:36:12down to
00:36:13the
00:36:13Hay Adams
00:36:13Hotel to
00:36:15go to
00:36:15the
00:36:15bar.
00:36:16My
00:36:17other
00:36:17staff
00:36:17were
00:36:17backing me.
00:36:18The White
00:36:20House just
00:36:20canceled the
00:36:21meeting.
00:36:21No reason.
00:36:22I got
00:36:22Chemisev next
00:36:23to me.
00:36:24I have to
00:36:24lie to
00:36:25him.
00:36:26Make up
00:36:26an excuse
00:36:26that some
00:36:27big event
00:36:28happened.
00:36:28He knew
00:36:29it was a
00:36:29lie, but
00:36:30the meeting
00:36:31was canceled.
00:36:32Chemisev goes
00:36:33back to
00:36:34Moscow.
00:36:35They tried.
00:36:36Now listen
00:36:37carefully.
00:36:39Three months
00:36:40later, one
00:36:40of the
00:36:40companies under
00:36:41Chemisev,
00:36:42under Ross
00:36:42Technology,
00:36:42which sells
00:36:43technology to
00:36:45one of our
00:36:45enemies.
00:36:46We impose
00:36:46sanctions, which
00:36:47I support,
00:36:48on the
00:36:48company and
00:36:49on Chemisev.
00:36:49Now listen
00:36:50carefully.
00:36:51Until Boeing
00:36:52needs
00:36:53titanium.
00:36:54No one
00:36:55did more
00:36:55for Boeing
00:36:56than I
00:36:56did.
00:36:57Boeing hired
00:36:58one of our
00:37:00top State
00:37:01Department
00:37:01officials.
00:37:03You have a
00:37:05Boeing facility
00:37:05there in
00:37:06the Philly
00:37:07area.
00:37:08I saved
00:37:09that plan.
00:37:09They were
00:37:10going to
00:37:10shut it
00:37:10down.
00:37:11Boeing hires
00:37:12this official,
00:37:13pays him
00:37:13seven
00:37:14figures.
00:37:15Seven
00:37:16figures.
00:37:17He knows
00:37:18I know
00:37:18this.
00:37:19And guess
00:37:20what?
00:37:21The sanctions
00:37:22disappear.
00:37:24And Boeing
00:37:24does a
00:37:25$2 billion
00:37:25deal for
00:37:26titanium from
00:37:27the Russian
00:37:28company of
00:37:28Visma, which
00:37:29is under
00:37:30Chemisev.
00:37:32That's the
00:37:33problem.
00:37:34We've allowed
00:37:35those people
00:37:36in the deep
00:37:36state to make
00:37:38money for
00:37:38themselves to
00:37:39enrich
00:37:40themselves while
00:37:42the strategies
00:37:44and the
00:37:45standards that
00:37:46we set are
00:37:46ignored.
00:37:48I had the
00:37:48same thing
00:37:48happen in
00:37:49Libya when
00:37:50I took the
00:37:50first delegation
00:37:51there in
00:37:5125 years,
00:37:53bipartisan
00:37:53delegation, on
00:37:54a military
00:37:55plane.
00:37:56The White
00:37:56House didn't
00:37:56want me to
00:37:57go there, and
00:37:57then I found
00:37:57out why.
00:37:59Gaddafi had
00:38:00made the
00:38:00public statement
00:38:01that he was
00:38:02going to
00:38:02renounce
00:38:03terrorism and
00:38:03cooperate with
00:38:04us.
00:38:05And Bush,
00:38:05again, responded
00:38:06the public.
00:38:07I listened
00:38:07to my
00:38:07president.
00:38:08I'm going
00:38:08to go over
00:38:09there and
00:38:09support my
00:38:10president.
00:38:10We get over
00:38:11there.
00:38:12They had made
00:38:12tremendous progress
00:38:13in Libya.
00:38:14The last
00:38:15meeting was
00:38:15with Gaddafi.
00:38:16Before we met
00:38:17Gaddafi, they
00:38:18showed us this
00:38:19man-made reservoir
00:38:20they had built.
00:38:21Huge, pure
00:38:22water.
00:38:23They had pumped
00:38:23pure water all
00:38:24over the desert
00:38:25area to help
00:38:26the people with
00:38:26drinking water and
00:38:27sanitation.
00:38:28They had a
00:38:29luncheon.
00:38:30While we're
00:38:31sitting there, I
00:38:33see this 14-foot
00:38:34pipe, and I
00:38:35said, I'm
00:38:36hell in the
00:38:37world, did
00:38:38you build that
00:38:3814-foot pipe?
00:38:40You've been under
00:38:40sanctions for 25
00:38:41years, since the
00:38:43Reagan bombing as
00:38:44a result of
00:38:46the plane bombing
00:38:48and the
00:38:49light club,
00:38:50the night club.
00:38:51It killed some
00:38:52GIs.
00:38:53How did you
00:38:53build it?
00:38:54Well, we didn't
00:38:54build it,
00:38:55Congress.
00:38:56You couldn't
00:38:57buy it from the
00:38:58U.S. or
00:38:58Europe.
00:38:59Were you under
00:38:59sanctions?
00:39:00Did you buy it
00:39:00from Russia?
00:39:01Oh, no.
00:39:02You bought it
00:39:02from China?
00:39:03Oh, no.
00:39:04Well, who'd
00:39:04you buy it
00:39:05from?
00:39:06Well, we bought
00:39:07it from
00:39:07Halliburton.
00:39:10Wow.
00:39:11You hear what I
00:39:11just said?
00:39:12We bought it from
00:39:13Halliburton.
00:39:13Who was the CEO
00:39:14of Halliburton in
00:39:15the 90s?
00:39:17It was Cheney,
00:39:17right?
00:39:18That's right.
00:39:18Dick Cheney.
00:39:19Yes, sir.
00:39:20Dick Cheney was the
00:39:21CEO of Halliburton
00:39:22that sold the pipe to
00:39:23Libya while they were
00:39:24under sanctions, who
00:39:25then became vice
00:39:26president.
00:39:27Wow.
00:39:28Do you understand the
00:39:28problem?
00:39:30Yes.
00:39:31Do you understand the
00:39:31problem in America?
00:39:32It's not our system.
00:39:33You know, sir, I think
00:39:35what you said on the
00:39:375th of July, as I was
00:39:38telling before you got
00:39:39on here, I'm looking
00:39:41back and I don't know
00:39:42if you saw, but people's
00:39:43eyes were wide open,
00:39:45their jaw was dropped
00:39:46because, you know, you
00:39:46were, you're not just
00:39:48somebody who's pontificating
00:39:50on what could be.
00:39:50You were there.
00:39:52You lived it.
00:39:52You saw it.
00:39:53And then what I was
00:39:54going to ask you, no,
00:39:55knowing what you've
00:39:56lived through and now
00:39:58we're seeing these
00:39:59revelations of what the
00:40:01hell's been going on
00:40:02with the deep state
00:40:02really giving the middle
00:40:03finger to Congress to
00:40:04hell.
00:40:05I mean, remember,
00:40:06what's his name?
00:40:07Brennan was spying on
00:40:07the freaking Senate and
00:40:09didn't know how to
00:40:10apologize.
00:40:10I mean, what do you
00:40:11make of all this now
00:40:12that those revelations
00:40:13are coming out?
00:40:13And my concern with
00:40:15Trump, I kept quiet in
00:40:172006.
00:40:19As I said, I would, I
00:40:20was next in line.
00:40:21I would have been
00:40:21chairman of armed
00:40:22services, 60 members.
00:40:23They all liked me.
00:40:25I had no problems.
00:40:26I had endorsements
00:40:27from 180 leaders.
00:40:29It would have been
00:40:30no-brainer.
00:40:30But they knew as
00:40:32chairman I would have
00:40:33unlimited subpoena
00:40:34power.
00:40:35And they knew they
00:40:36couldn't control me.
00:40:37In fact, Johnson
00:40:38Aneu was George Bush
00:40:39Sr.'s chief of staff.
00:40:41And I liked Johnson.
00:40:43Eight kids.
00:40:44His two kids were
00:40:44after him involved.
00:40:46Former governor
00:40:46of New Hampshire.
00:40:49Johnson Aneu, I was
00:40:50in his office two years
00:40:51after I left
00:40:51congressman.
00:40:52He said what he
00:40:52said to me.
00:40:53You know, congressman,
00:40:54you were a great
00:40:54member.
00:40:55People respected you,
00:40:56but you made one
00:40:57mistake.
00:40:58I said, well, John,
00:40:59what did I do?
00:41:00He said, well, when
00:41:01you come to the city,
00:41:02you're either on one
00:41:04rail or the other
00:41:04rail.
00:41:05And you went down the
00:41:06middle and took on
00:41:06both rails.
00:41:08He said, you can't
00:41:09survive in the city.
00:41:10I said, John, with all
00:41:11due respect, and I do
00:41:12respect you, I didn't
00:41:15pledge allegiance to the
00:41:16Republican Party.
00:41:17No.
00:41:18Pledge allegiance to the
00:41:19Constitution.
00:41:20You guys were ecstatic
00:41:21when I took on Sandy
00:41:22Berger.
00:41:23You were ecstatic when I
00:41:24made Clinton look like a
00:41:25jackass.
00:41:26You were ecstatic when I
00:41:27took on Hazel O'Leary at
00:41:29Energy and the other
00:41:30buffoons that worked for
00:41:31Clinton.
00:41:32But when Bush came in,
00:41:33junior, and did stupid
00:41:35things, you got mad at me.
00:41:38When 9-11 happened and you
00:41:39lied about it, you got angry
00:41:41at me.
00:41:41He said, well, that's why
00:41:42you're not in country.
00:41:43I said, you know what,
00:41:43John?
00:41:44That's okay.
00:41:46That's okay.
00:41:47You still have your soul,
00:41:48Kurt.
00:41:49You still have your soul.
00:41:50But what you did to my
00:41:51family, they didn't come
00:41:52after me.
00:41:53Nobody came to me.
00:41:55No coward had the guts to
00:41:58come to my face and say
00:42:00something to me.
00:42:01And I had worked with the
00:42:02agency.
00:42:03I did things for the agency
00:42:04that I never talked about
00:42:05publicly.
00:42:06They know that I did things
00:42:08for them.
00:42:09They didn't come to me.
00:42:10They raided my daughter's
00:42:12house at 7 o'clock in the
00:42:13morning in Philadelphia.
00:42:15The local TV stations were
00:42:16all my friends.
00:42:18They said, Kurt, we got
00:42:18called there.
00:42:20When the people from D.C.
00:42:21went to her home, the
00:42:23cameras were all outside,
00:42:25you know, a little tiny home
00:42:26with her husband down, and
00:42:27he worked for Boeing, and
00:42:29they raided the house,
00:42:30carried boxes.
00:42:31That was a national
00:42:31story.
00:42:32Vice Chairman of the
00:42:33Defense Committee, Vice
00:42:33Chairman of Homeland
00:42:34Security, he's got to be
00:42:35a crook.
00:42:36Three weeks before the
00:42:37election.
00:42:39The same time they did
00:42:40that, now, seem
00:42:40carefully, they raided a
00:42:42lawyer.
00:42:43In my county, a
00:42:44Democrat, John Gallagher.
00:42:47And they didn't bother to
00:42:48check.
00:42:49Brennan and Clapper didn't
00:42:50bother to check.
00:42:52At the time of the
00:42:53raid, John Gallagher was
00:42:56working for FBI
00:42:57counterintelligence against
00:42:58Russia that I had
00:43:00arranged for FBI
00:43:01counterintelligence two
00:43:02years earlier.
00:43:03So FBI
00:43:04counterintelligence went to
00:43:05John's office early in the
00:43:07morning and said, Mr.
00:43:08Gallagher, we don't know
00:43:09what's going on, but there
00:43:10are people coming from
00:43:11Washington, we're going to
00:43:12sit here with you.
00:43:13You're working for the
00:43:14government, don't answer
00:43:14any questions.
00:43:16The other agents come in,
00:43:17and I have all this on
00:43:18tape, all this is on a
00:43:19three-hour interview.
00:43:21Wow.
00:43:21So while the other
00:43:23agents are sitting with
00:43:24him from the FBI
00:43:25counterintelligence, these
00:43:26agents from D.C.
00:43:26come in, and John says,
00:43:28what do you people want?
00:43:31And while the counterintelligence
00:43:33people are telling John to be
00:43:34quiet because he's working
00:43:34for them against Russia, the
00:43:37people from Washington, they
00:43:38don't know what's going on.
00:43:39They were sent by
00:43:40Sklamburg, who's the lawyer
00:43:42that cut the plea bargain
00:43:42for Sandy Berger.
00:43:44The 11 felonies down to one
00:43:46misdemeanor sent them there.
00:43:47So they said, well, Mr.
00:43:48Gallagher, the first
00:43:49question, isn't it true that
00:43:52you related to Congressman
00:43:53Kurt Weldon?
00:43:54And John started laughing at
00:43:55them.
00:43:56He said, you're from the FBI.
00:43:58You come from Washington, and
00:44:00that's your first question to
00:44:01me?
00:44:02Because Congressman
00:44:03Weldon's wife's maiden name
00:44:04is Gallagher?
00:44:06And you didn't bother to do
00:44:07your research?
00:44:08He has no relation to me.
00:44:09Well, I can tell you what I
00:44:10know.
00:44:12There's a person, one person
00:44:13that thought that John
00:44:15Gallagher's my relative who
00:44:17had organized my daughter's
00:44:19company.
00:44:19It was my cousin Hank
00:44:21Gallagher in Delaware, not
00:44:23John Gallagher.
00:44:24And that person got rewarded
00:44:26with a job.
00:44:27Three months after they raided
00:44:29my daughter's house and John
00:44:32Gallagher, I know it all.
00:44:33And one day it's all going to
00:44:34come out.
00:44:35The Congress cannot
00:44:37operate, and this is what
00:44:39elections are about.
00:44:40If we allow agencies to take
00:44:43these kinds of steps, you
00:44:45don't think that's a signal to
00:44:46every member of Congress that
00:44:47look what they did to Kurt
00:44:48Weldon?
00:44:49How can you expect any member
00:44:50of Congress to want to be
00:44:52tough and take on the system
00:44:54when they know they play these
00:44:55games?
00:44:56They're not being held
00:44:57accountable.
00:44:58That person that made the
00:44:59millions off of Boeing, he's
00:45:00not being held accountable.
00:45:02I know who he is.
00:45:02The other people making
00:45:04money, they're not being
00:45:05held accountable.
00:45:05They're anonymous.
00:45:07They're scumbags.
00:45:08Sir, I was going to say, look
00:45:10at, we find out now, again,
00:45:11thanks to Carrie and working
00:45:13with DOJ, is that you had
00:45:15somebody in the studios of
00:45:16Voice of America swatting
00:45:18MTG, you know, making death
00:45:21threats to MTG and her family,
00:45:23for God's sakes.
00:45:24It's right now, and this is my
00:45:27concern with Trump.
00:45:28I kept quiet from 2006, because
00:45:31listen, this is carefully, you
00:45:32guys have done a great job on
00:45:34elections.
00:45:35So after the election loss, we
00:45:37didn't know, how did this ever
00:45:38happen?
00:45:39So my staff go through our
00:45:40record files, and they find a
00:45:43memo.
00:45:44A memo was sent by the National
00:45:46Republic Congressional Committee
00:45:47in September to my campaign
00:45:50manager in September of 06.
00:45:53And the memo says, hey, thought
00:45:55you should know, for some
00:45:56reason, Congressman Walden's
00:45:58opponent has maxed out on the
00:46:00Philadelphia TV buy, maximum buy,
00:46:03every week up until election, but
00:46:05for some reason, they just
00:46:07decreased the buy for one week in
00:46:09October by $500,000.
00:46:12That was in September.
00:46:14The week of the decrease was the
00:46:16week of the raid of my daughter's
00:46:17office.
00:46:19Wow.
00:46:19The Justice Department had
00:46:21briefed the Democrat Party of the
00:46:23actual week.
00:46:24They would raid my daughter's
00:46:26house, so you didn't have to
00:46:27buy TV ads.
00:46:29That's what's wrong with the
00:46:30country.
00:46:31And I know you're a Democrat
00:46:32opponent there, sir.
00:46:34You know, we, I was in the
00:46:35military then.
00:46:37His wife worked for intelligence.
00:46:40Yeah, yeah.
00:46:41And he was not well liked by a lot
00:46:44of folks in the military.
00:46:46He didn't live in a district.
00:46:47He was here for a short time.
00:46:48He was put up by Berger and
00:46:49Clinton.
00:46:51It was all about getting me out.
00:46:53It was all about, I was rocking
00:46:55the vote.
00:46:56I was doing, and that's the
00:46:57problem because what we have now,
00:46:59you have a Congress of members,
00:47:01good people that are afraid that
00:47:02they're not going to risk their
00:47:04lives.
00:47:05You know, on my post LinkedIn, I
00:47:07just put up a five minute video
00:47:08about the 9-11 ultimate
00:47:10conspiracy theory.
00:47:11It's a great thing.
00:47:12It's put out by the lawyers for
00:47:139-11 justice.
00:47:14And at the end of the film, after
00:47:16the film is over, they have an
00:47:18audio of a CIA meeting.
00:47:20And you can hear the CIA director
00:47:21saying, laughing, and you hear all
00:47:23the people in the audience are,
00:47:24yeah, I'm the director of the CIA,
00:47:25and we lied to hell out of the, in
00:47:27front of the Congress.
00:47:28We lied to hell.
00:47:30That's the problem.
00:47:31And he says, and you hear it on the
00:47:33voice, if you listen to them, yeah, we
00:47:35have courses on how to lie to them.
00:47:37Is that what America is all about?
00:47:39Is that how we, is that how we
00:47:40operate?
00:47:41And what happened with Bush Jr.
00:47:44being totally out of it, not as bad
00:47:46as Biden, but out of it.
00:47:47Then you get Obama in there.
00:47:48Obama was a nothing.
00:47:50He did nothing in the Senate.
00:47:52He could talk the talk and shoot the
00:47:53hoops.
00:47:54They picked him the presidency.
00:47:56He had no other qualifications.
00:47:57And then he gave him the Nobel Peace
00:47:59Prize, the first month he's in office.
00:48:01I mean, cut me a break.
00:48:03So under Obama, under Bush Jr., you
00:48:06had the deep state after 9-11.
00:48:07We passed the Patriot Act.
00:48:09They got all the increased, all the
00:48:12increased capability they want to
00:48:14grab to the American people.
00:48:15Then you get Biden there, and it's
00:48:17still totally out of control.
00:48:18So for the last 20 years, they've
00:48:21been running the system.
00:48:22I kept quiet until Trump, you asked
00:48:25me why I kept quiet, until Trump
00:48:28announced he was removing the security
00:48:30clearances of the 51 intelligence
00:48:33officers.
00:48:33I said then, I'll talk now.
00:48:36I did my first podcast in February.
00:48:39I've done 10 podcasts, all national,
00:48:42with Tucker Carlson, Patrick Ben
00:48:44David, Jimmy Dore.
00:48:46We've gotten 20 million views.
00:48:48Nobody's countered me.
00:48:50I'll take a polygraph on anything I've
00:48:51said.
00:48:53On the 9-11 stuff, the 9-11 commission,
00:48:56Zellicow is a stinkin' liar.
00:48:58Zellicow published a fraud for the
00:49:00commission report.
00:49:01He was Condi Rice's henchman.
00:49:03He was her best friend.
00:49:04That's why he was put in the job, and I
00:49:06have been told he was her business
00:49:07partner.
00:49:09And the Democrats put Jamie
00:49:10Grell in charge of the commission.
00:49:12What they did, and this is critically
00:49:14important, whether you agree with 9-11
00:49:16or not, they did not want anything about
00:49:18able danger in the report.
00:49:20So they said it was historically
00:49:21insignificant.
00:49:22Well, guess what?
00:49:24Tony Schaefer publishes his memoirs as
00:49:29a career spy called Darkheart.
00:49:32Tony Schaefer, when he was in office,
00:49:35had been a part of the Able David
00:49:36team.
00:49:37When 9-11 happened, they sent him back
00:49:39over to Afghanistan undercover.
00:49:42He goes to his commanding officer as
00:49:44his protocol.
00:49:45They said, I want to write my memoirs
00:49:46as a spy.
00:49:47Will you review the book?
00:49:49He said, sure.
00:49:50So this commanding officer, the general
00:49:51approves the book.
00:49:53The publisher starts printing the book.
00:49:55Until the deep state, undefined, decide
00:50:00they don't want Tony's book out.
00:50:02So they issue a cease and desist order.
00:50:05It's too late.
00:50:05The book's already in publication.
00:50:08The book's called Darkheart.
00:50:09So what do they do?
00:50:11They cut a deal.
00:50:13The deep state pays with taxpayer money
00:50:15to buy all 10,000 first edition copies
00:50:19of Darkheart undestroyed.
00:50:22So I've had Tony Schaefer on with me
00:50:23on probably five or six podcasting.
00:50:26So I've asked Tony this question.
00:50:27Tony, you have the original book, right?
00:50:29Yeah, here it is, Congressman.
00:50:30You have the redacted version, right?
00:50:31Yeah, here it is.
00:50:33What was so important that they didn't
00:50:36want out to the public that you were
00:50:39telling in your book?
00:50:40What were the secrets?
00:50:41Here's what he said.
00:50:43The most significant thing they wanted
00:50:45out of my book was the fact that
00:50:47I had briefed Zelikow when I was on duty
00:50:50in Afghanistan and the 9-11 Commission
00:50:53came through Afghanistan asking for information.
00:50:56They didn't want that out to the public.
00:50:59Zelikow had been briefed on the Abel Dangerous project.
00:51:03That's why they destroyed his book.
00:51:05But it gets worse than that.
00:51:06There's a second book you people want to read.
00:51:08It's called Horse Soldiers.
00:51:10Horse Soldiers is the award-winning
00:51:12New York Times bestseller and based on a film,
00:51:16a Hollywood film, about General Keith Lambert,
00:51:19our commanding general of special ops on horseback.
00:51:23So in the book on page 27, the author says
00:51:27to General Lambert, General, you were over
00:51:28in the Asia area during the 9-11.
00:51:31What were your thoughts for 9-11?
00:51:33And this is what General Lambert says.
00:51:36Not me.
00:51:38General Lambert.
00:51:38He says, when 9-11 happened,
00:51:43I knew within seconds who had done the attack.
00:51:45And I knew it involved a man named Muhammad Addo
00:51:48because I had been briefed on a top-secret
00:51:51army intelligence program.
00:51:53None of that's in the 9-11 Commission report.
00:51:55None of it.
00:51:57None of it.
00:51:57And, sir, if memory serves, didn't Brennan,
00:52:00when he was, I think, station chief in Saudi Arabia,
00:52:03didn't he sign off on these visas for the majority of the folks
00:52:09who hijacked those planes?
00:52:11Not only that.
00:52:13What I found out, Brennan's ties to the Middle East are,
00:52:18as you know, they're very few.
00:52:21But because I could not trust intelligence being provided to me
00:52:25by the agency as the vice chairman of both armed servers
00:52:28and homeland security, I would get better intelligence from Bill Gertz
00:52:32than I would from the agents.
00:52:34He would come in with a story and say,
00:52:35Mr. Chairman, what's your response?
00:52:36I said, Bill, where did you get this?
00:52:37I said, you know, I get it from my sources.
00:52:39I said, so somebody gave you this.
00:52:40So I went back to the CIA.
00:52:42I said, you bastards.
00:52:44You go to Bill Gertz and give him a story.
00:52:46Then he comes to me.
00:52:47You're working for me as a representative of the people,
00:52:50not for Bill Gertz and the industry.
00:52:52And that's what they do all the time.
00:52:53They leak stories to benefit their political conclusion.
00:52:57So what I had to do, there was a group in Washington
00:53:00called the Cockroaches.
00:53:01The Cockroaches was an informal group of intelligence leaders,
00:53:05all ex-military, who met socially once a month
00:53:09or once every couple weeks for dinner.
00:53:10My staff was involved because my staff were largely ex-military.
00:53:14So I would go to sometimes their dinners
00:53:16and socialize.
00:53:17I got to know them.
00:53:18I trusted them.
00:53:19They trusted me.
00:53:21So they were unhappy that as intelligence officers
00:53:25in the CIA, DIA, NSA,
00:53:27they knew that the real truth wasn't coming to the members.
00:53:30So they pulled me aside from time to time.
00:53:33And I said, wait a minute.
00:53:34I formed a loose-knit group of about 15 to 20 veterans.
00:53:40We met once a week, once every two weeks
00:53:42in the members' dining room of the Capitol for breakfast.
00:53:45And they would feed me raw data.
00:53:48So 9-11's over.
00:53:50We're at one of the breakfast rooms.
00:53:52And I said, Mr. Chairman, we got some information for you.
00:53:54Okay.
00:53:55Well, we got some raw intelligence coming in.
00:53:58Now, we're sending troops over to Afghanistan now.
00:54:01Young kids that are going to die.
00:54:02And he says, we got information that Bin Laden is in a town called Ladiz.
00:54:07Now, I never heard of Ladiz.
00:54:09Where the hell is Ladiz?
00:54:11I walked up the street.
00:54:12I'd buy a map at the bookstore.
00:54:14Come back.
00:54:15I searched all over Afghanistan for Ladiz.
00:54:18I had been to Afghanistan.
00:54:19I couldn't find it.
00:54:20I looked for Pakistan.
00:54:21I found Ladiz.
00:54:2310 kilometers inside the border of Iran in Balochistan.
00:54:29So I go to the next classified briefing for the full committee.
00:54:32And I'm the acting chairman.
00:54:3460 members of the House, Democrats and Republicans, classified closed briefing.
00:54:38And I said to the CIA, I have information that Bin Laden has been cited in a town called Ladiz.
00:54:45And this is the response I got.
00:54:46I'll take a polygraph.
00:54:48Well, Mr. Chairman, we've heard similar reports.
00:54:51We can either confirm or deny them.
00:54:54I went through the ceiling.
00:54:56Here I am, the vice chairman of the defense committee, supporting sending our sons and daughters to Afghanistan
00:55:02to look for a man that our intelligence can't deny to me is in a town in Iran.
00:55:07Three months later, my team comes back again and says,
00:55:12Mr. Chairman, he's now being treated at a military hospital outside of Tehran, Iran.
00:55:18I go back to the classified briefing.
00:55:20It's a full committee.
00:55:22Chairman, I'm acting chairman.
00:55:23I asked the question.
00:55:25I have information that Assad bin Laden is being treated at a military hospital outside of Tehran.
00:55:29Response by the CIA.
00:55:31Mr. Chairman, we've heard similar reports.
00:55:35We can either confirm or deny them.
00:55:38Twice.
00:55:39Wow.
00:55:40I live it.
00:55:41Because I had taken the steps to go over to meet with King Zahir Shah, the king of Afghanistan,
00:55:47while he was living in exile outside of Rome with his son.
00:55:50To convince him to go back to Kabul and convince a lawyer of the tribes to avoid having our troops
00:55:55be hurt the way they hurt the Russian troops.
00:55:58I took those steps to protect our troops.
00:56:00That's my ultimate goal.
00:56:01on my own.
00:56:03And to have me now be told that we're sending troops over, American sons and daughters,
00:56:09when there are people in America that know bin Laden's not in Iran and not in Afghanistan.
00:56:14It's just beside myself.
00:56:15Then I get the most powerful Democrat in the world, Jack Murthy, retired Marine, great American.
00:56:23Jack always sent people to me.
00:56:26I know him pretty well, sir, back in my time at Nav Air.
00:56:28You know the credibility from a Marine.
00:56:32So Jack would rely on me to do investigations on the authorization side.
00:56:35He was approached.
00:56:37So Ron Klink, Democrat from Pittsburgh.
00:56:39Ron's still alive.
00:56:40He'll verify this story.
00:56:42He was a KDKA reporter.
00:56:44Ron goes to Jack and said, Jack, I got information about Iran.
00:56:47Who do I go to?
00:56:48Jack said, go see Kurt Weldon.
00:56:50Ron Klink called and said, Mertha said he'd come to you.
00:56:52I said, yeah, fine.
00:56:53Come on in.
00:56:53He said, I have a friend who was a knock for the agents.
00:56:56You know what a knock is, right, guys?
00:56:58Non-official cover.
00:56:59That's right.
00:57:00He said, I have a friend who was a knock for the agency.
00:57:02And he knows something about Iran.
00:57:04When you meet with a shooter, bring him over.
00:57:06He brings this six-foot-three-inch guy, who I still have the contact information for,
00:57:10who I've met with, verified it, lie detector.
00:57:14I said, how can I help you?
00:57:16You know, you're here on Ron Klink.
00:57:17He's a good guy.
00:57:18Jack Murthy's a great guy.
00:57:20For Congress and I work for the agency.
00:57:22When I work for the agency, I work the area around Iran.
00:57:26I said, I want you to help me go there.
00:57:28I'm going to go to Ron, leave my credentials in a hotel in Iran, and I'll get him,
00:57:34and I'll bring him back to their lives.
00:57:35There's a $25 million reward.
00:57:37I said, I know about the reward, but why do you think he's there?
00:57:41I said, my colleagues that I work with, they've seen him here.
00:57:43They know he's there.
00:57:45Now, this is a person coming from Jack Murthy with Ron Klink telling me the same thing
00:57:51that my intel team's coming.
00:57:53Then I get another call from the Interior Department.
00:57:58The BIRD expert for Interior calls my office and said, out of the blue,
00:58:04the BIRD expert for the Interior Department wants to bring in our top Falcon expert
00:58:07to bring Congress in welding.
00:58:10Well, they asked me, I said, sure, I'll meet with it.
00:58:12Now, why would I want that?
00:58:13I'm the Republican on the Migratory BIRD Commission.
00:58:16The Migratory BIRD Commission consists of two House members, two senators,
00:58:20and three cabinet members.
00:58:21It oversees all the wildlife refuges and the flyways for migratory birds in North America.
00:58:27I was the Republican for the House.
00:58:29John Dingell was a Democrat.
00:58:30So I figured, okay, they want to brief me.
00:58:33So the Interior Department brings in a man from Maine, a U.S. citizen.
00:58:38He's a Sikh, but he's a U.S. citizen.
00:58:39Very wealthy family.
00:58:41Comes into my office in Rayburn with two Falcons on his shoulders with blinders on.
00:58:46Beautiful birds.
00:58:47I'd never seen a Falcon up close.
00:58:50And he says, Mr. Chairman, I really appreciate you taking the time to meet me.
00:58:53I said, well, I'm doing this because, you know, you've got these Falcons.
00:58:56I don't know much about Falcons.
00:58:57How can I help you?
00:58:58I don't know many Falcons in the U.S.
00:59:00But he said, well, I did all the treaties for the U.N.
00:59:03on protecting Falcons.
00:59:05That's my livelihood.
00:59:06I've spent my whole life devoted to Falcons.
00:59:08I'm the president of the International Association of Falconry.
00:59:10He said, I train all the children of the royal families in the sport of falconry.
00:59:16I said, really?
00:59:16He said, yes.
00:59:17He said, my falconers have seen bin Laden's birds flying in Iran.
00:59:25If you help me go to Iran, I'll tag his birds, and I'll take the U.S. to exactly where he is.
00:59:34Now, that's four.
00:59:36They get me out of office, and I get a call from Michael Scheuer.
00:59:42Michael Scheuer at my home says to me, Congressman, do you remember me?
00:59:45I said, vaguely, Michael.
00:59:46I said, didn't you work for the CIA?
00:59:47I said, yeah, I was the bin Laden task force director for the CIA.
00:59:52Well, how can I help you?
00:59:53I said, you know, I was supposed to see every document that the CIA had about bin Laden.
00:59:58I said, I know that.
01:00:00He said, but this bird guy is showing me stuff I never saw.
01:00:02He said, I think he's right.
01:00:04He said, I think bin Laden was in Iran.
01:00:06We want you to be involved in a film.
01:00:08I said, I'm not doing a film.
01:00:09That's what they did in my family.
01:00:10It's, I'm not going to do it.
01:00:12I said, I'm sorry.
01:00:13Thanks for your good work, but I'm not going to get involved.
01:00:15But three months later, General McInerney called, Tom McInerney, at my home.
01:00:22Congressman, I'm working with the Falconer.
01:00:24Can you help us?
01:00:25I said, General, I talked to Scheuer.
01:00:27I can't get involved.
01:00:28I have 10 silver bullets.
01:00:3210 of people who knew and verified that the U.S. certainly had knowledge, but I have information.
01:00:42The U.S., with plausible deniability, placed Usama bin Laden in Iran after 9-11.
01:00:50Now, the royal family of Kuwait and the royal family of Saudi Arabia, both senior leaders verified that to me, but the ultimate is.
01:01:00I was in the Middle East on a trip probably 10 years ago, and I met Anak, who's worked for our agency for 50 years.
01:01:08He's a Middle Easterner.
01:01:10He's not a U.S. citizen.
01:01:12And I've helped him out in many cases.
01:01:14No money ever taken from him.
01:01:16I've helped him because he helps America.
01:01:18And he said to me, you know, my dear, you were right.
01:01:21I said, about what?
01:01:22Well, about a lot of things.
01:01:23You were right, Mr. Chairman.
01:01:26He said, you're right about 9-11.
01:01:27You're right about bin Laden.
01:01:29I said, what do you say?
01:01:29He said, he was in Iran.
01:01:32Why would you say that?
01:01:33He said, I was in the room to give the U.S. plausible deniability when the meeting was held to place Rasulullah bin Laden in Iran, and the deal was not with the Iranian government.
01:01:49Wow.
01:01:50He was in the room.
01:01:51Wow.
01:01:52Five years later, or five years ago, when Trump first went in, who did we kill?
01:02:00Soleimani.
01:02:00I text my friend in the Middle East, was that the guy?
01:02:04And he texts back within one minute, yes.
01:02:06That's why we killed Soleimani.
01:02:09Wow.
01:02:11Soleimani was the guy that we cut the deal with to place Obama and Osama bin Laden in Iran until Ahmadinejad found out.
01:02:19And they kicked him over to Pakistan to get him out of Iran.
01:02:23It wasn't done by the Iranian government.
01:02:25Hey, sir, I know we've gone about a little over an hour now.
01:02:29But as we wrap up, I wanted to ask you a question, and I'm serious about this.
01:02:33How many of these people that we're now seeing who have done these egregious things to our country?
01:02:40You know, a lot of them are middle management.
01:02:41They're not the muckety-mucks, if you will, that control a lot of things.
01:02:46As General Holt would say, it's no longer R versus D, but think about we the people versus the city of London, the WHO, the WEF, all that kind of stuff.
01:02:56How long do you think any of these people risk being, I'm using air quotes, suicided?
01:03:00I think what's happened, this has gone on, as I told you, and this is the problem.
01:03:07I support Donald Trump, and I support people around him.
01:03:10The people around him don't know what they don't know.
01:03:12This did not start in 2015.
01:03:15This started 30 years ago, 25 years ago.
01:03:19Trump got in the middle of it to try to change it, and that's why they would not let him take office.
01:03:24That's what's going to come out with the investigation you're seeing now.
01:03:27This is much deeper than that, and they become more powerful.
01:03:33That's why I think the biggest challenge we have is Donald Trump.
01:03:35They're going to try to assassinate him again, and if they do that, America's got big problems.
01:03:40What the American people have got to do, whether you like Donald Trump or not, personally, you cannot – anonymous, unnamed scumbags make money, and that's their whole goal.
01:03:50Make money for themselves, while this country sends our young people to die in wars that were concocted by people who were sitting in offices in our big cities in New York, in Washington, and around the world making money and causing conflict.
01:04:07That's got to stop, and that means, and I've told my friends in Congress this, you've got to become patriots.
01:04:14If you're not going to speak out, then the country's going to – it's going to fall apart.
01:04:18Who is going to do this?
01:04:20Nobody else knows what I know.
01:04:21Nobody else saw what I saw.
01:04:23Nobody else documented what I documented.
01:04:26You've got to start to come out, and the people in the services have got to do the same.
01:04:31What was interesting is when I started talking about 9-11, the people around George Bush, you know, formed a new nonprofit in March.
01:04:37Guess what?
01:04:38They want to honor the 9-11 memorial.
01:04:39What, you think I'm stupid?
01:04:41It's all run by the board of people who worked for George Bush on 9-11.
01:04:45They're trying to make, like, oh, they care about those people so much that died.
01:04:50They don't care about the people that died.
01:04:51I was going to say, also, it's – as we – I know we've got to probably wrap up here.
01:04:56It's about an hour and six minutes into the show, about six minutes over.
01:05:00But it was very telling, which you showed, too.
01:05:03And before you spoke, you had that kind of praising speech by George Bush, the father.
01:05:11That's why I show it.
01:05:12To show you that, yeah, these people, they'll lie through their teeth.
01:05:16And he was praising you when he knew they just took you out.
01:05:19And that's why I showed up, because what they would have done if I didn't have that, they would say, oh, well, it's a crazy wacko.
01:05:27Now, but by having George Bush, the senior, the former head of the CIA, on his own, after I'm out of office, give a presentation in front of 2,000 leaders, members of the House and Senate, and saying – he never did say that for about any other member of Congress that I've ever seen.
01:05:45For him to say that, they can't say that about me now.
01:05:48It's too late.
01:05:49They tried to take that down.
01:05:51And I stopped it.
01:05:53And I do that for that purpose.
01:05:55I'm not going to stop.
01:05:56They can kill me.
01:05:57And if they kill me, I'll surround the CIA headquarters with 600 fire trucks.
01:06:01I surrounded the Capitol with 300 fire trucks to get interoperable communications.
01:06:04Now, sir, you've got a lot of people.
01:06:05You've got the PPN audience.
01:06:08You've got a lot of supporters, and as Flynn would say, digital soldiers.
01:06:14I've got a question.
01:06:15So are you – since you were with Juan, I know where you were.
01:06:18You know, Hayden, that you were in D.C.
01:06:19Are you happy with the way that went?
01:06:21And to me, we have not been happy with the advisors that Trump has had.
01:06:26And is that – can you say anything about that?
01:06:29It's a concern of mine.
01:06:30You know, I've never met Trump.
01:06:33I've never met him.
01:06:35I've supported him.
01:06:36I don't know him.
01:06:37And I don't have anything against the people around him.
01:06:41The problem is they're all well-intentioned.
01:06:43They don't know what they don't know.
01:06:46They weren't in office 20 years ago.
01:06:49They weren't in Congress 15 years ago.
01:06:52They weren't in the first Bush administration to know what was going on.
01:06:56And if you don't know the history, you come in, and, yeah, you're going to help Trump.
01:07:00But our President Trump is very much at risk now.
01:07:04And if you don't know the buildup to this, you can't help Trump be protected.
01:07:09And that's why they got Flynn out.
01:07:10I told Rudy Giuliani in a private dinner I had with him, before Trump took office, I said, Rudy, what they're going to do, they're going to take out his top advisor on intelligence.
01:07:22And he'll be like a baby in the woods.
01:07:23What did they do?
01:07:24They took out Rudy.
01:07:25I mean, they took out Flynn.
01:07:26And for four years, they ran roughshod over Trump because he had no one he could trust who understood intelligence because Flynn was gone.
01:07:35So here was Trump, a businessman, very smart, but he was like a baby in the woods.
01:07:39If you understand intelligence and the agencies and the networks, you're going to get eaten alive.
01:07:45That's the concern I have now.
01:07:46Now, I'm happy with some of the moves so far, but I'm still – I want Trump – like with Putin.
01:07:53There's no wonder Putin won't get down with – the times over the 25 years that we slapped him.
01:07:59I just gave you some examples.
01:08:00We spit in his face repeatedly.
01:08:02How many times is he going to take that before he becomes a war criminal?
01:08:05And that's what he is today.
01:08:06We made him a war criminal.
01:08:08Not we.
01:08:09The scumbar agencies made him a war criminal.
01:08:12And yet no one has acknowledged that publicly.
01:08:15I'll come out and I told the Trump people, I'll give a speech in front of Trump and Putin, and I'll lay it all out.
01:08:20I'll put it all out, and I'll name names.
01:08:22So that Putin knows that we know who this to cause Russia and the U.S. to be – let me give you one closing story that will make your people be very emotionally hit.
01:08:34And this is what it's all about.
01:08:36The Russian people are not our enemies, like in most countries.
01:08:40The first president to call Bush after 9-11 was Putin, the first, because they had met and Putin said that – Bush made that famous speech.
01:08:48I looked in his eyes.
01:08:49He offered Bush military, intelligence, and Bush, want to put our soldiers on your bases.
01:08:57We put U.S. soldiers on former Soviet bases in Georgia, in Uzbekistan, and other areas around the perimeter.
01:09:06I stayed in the bases with our troops.
01:09:08We did that, and Russia allowed us.
01:09:10A week after 9-11, I had a delegation of Moscow, our biggest embassy in the world.
01:09:15The bus drove us from the airport to the embassy.
01:09:17We arrived at the embassy.
01:09:17We were overwhelmed.
01:09:19The chain link couldn't surround our embassy in Moscow.
01:09:21We couldn't see in it.
01:09:22It was filled with handwritten notes, stuffed in the chain links.
01:09:27We got out of the bus, went over, and pulled them out.
01:09:30Most were in Russian.
01:09:31Some were in English.
01:09:32They were prayers.
01:09:33The Russian people were praying for Americans because of 9-11.
01:09:37There were crosses and icons all around the fence, and teddy bears and bottles of water, all from ordinary Russian people praying for America one week after 9-11.
01:09:50Not by the Russian government, not by Putin, but by the Russian people.
01:09:55Three years later, Russia has 9-11.
01:09:58It was September the 4th of 2004.
01:10:00You might remember the story.
01:10:02Opening day of school in the Russian Republic of North Ossetia.
01:10:06The town was Beslan.
01:10:08A kindergarten and a ninth-grade school, much like America.
01:10:11The kids were all lining up in the schoolyard for the first day of school.
01:10:15Parents, teachers, a truck pulled up with terrorists.
01:10:18They had masks on.
01:10:19They jumped out of the truck with guns.
01:10:21They ordered their kids inside the building.
01:10:23They forced them in.
01:10:24They kicked them down.
01:10:25They killed some of the parents.
01:10:26They put them all in the gymnasium.
01:10:29The people in the town, small town, the firefighters put yellow tape all around the outside to keep the families from going in.
01:10:37For 12 hours, they denied the kids water and wouldn't let them go to the bathroom.
01:10:41They were making demands of Moscow that Moscow wouldn't listen to.
01:10:45Finally, the families overran the tape.
01:10:48A firefight erupted.
01:10:51370 children and parents were slaughtered.
01:10:55370 in that school.
01:10:59In that school in Beslan.
01:11:02When it happened on September the 4th of 2004, I called the State Department.
01:11:07I said, look, get somebody to Beslan, not to support Putin, to show that America cares about the kids.
01:11:15And the State Department said, we're not going there, Congress.
01:11:17No way.
01:11:18Anyway, I went down to the Russian embassy.
01:11:21The ambassador was Ushakov.
01:11:22Ushakov was in Moscow today next to Putin.
01:11:24He's one of his advisors.
01:11:26I knew him well.
01:11:27I said, Ambassador, I want to sign the condolence book.
01:11:29He said, Congressman, thank you for coming over.
01:11:31I said, but more than this, I want to go to Beslan.
01:11:34He said, Congressman, you can't go to Beslan.
01:11:36No one's allowed there.
01:11:37Even our own members of parliament, the Duma, they can't go to Beslan.
01:11:41I said, why do you want to go?
01:11:42He said, I said, I want to show that we care.
01:11:45Our people care about your people.
01:11:46We want to pray over the graves of the children.
01:11:49Can't go.
01:11:49I'm sorry.
01:11:49I said, I'm a teacher.
01:11:50He said, I'm sorry, Congressman.
01:11:51I went back to my office.
01:11:52The neighboring republic to North Ossetia, there are 15 republics that were in the Soviet Union.
01:11:58The neighboring one is called Kalmykia.
01:12:00It's the only Hindu republic in the former Soviet Union.
01:12:03Hindu.
01:12:04The leader was a young leader named Kirsten Ilmginov.
01:12:07He was also president of the World Chess Federation.
01:12:09I knew him very well.
01:12:11I called Kirsten on the phone.
01:12:12He speaks English.
01:12:13He did an interview for my oral history.
01:12:15I said, Kirsten, this is a tragedy.
01:12:17He said, oh, it's terrible, Congressman.
01:12:19It's a whole region.
01:12:20I said, I want to go to Beslan.
01:12:22He said, well, call the state.
01:12:25He said, they won't let me go.
01:12:26I said, I want you to take me there.
01:12:28He said, fly to Moscow.
01:12:30I'll pick you up in my jet.
01:12:31I took three members, myself, Trent Franks from Arizona, and Mark Saldar from Indiana, and staffers.
01:12:39We flew to Moscow.
01:12:40He picked us up in his jet.
01:12:42He flew us down.
01:12:43We arrived at the capital of Kalmykia at 2 o'clock in the morning.
01:12:46There were hundreds of people out there with flowers.
01:12:48And they never had members of Congress come of their little tiny republic.
01:12:53And it was overwhelming, positive.
01:12:56We stayed there four hours, and we flew into Beslan.
01:12:58We arrived in Beslan, the small airport, Dinky.
01:13:01There were two men there, besides all the hundreds of people, wondering what's going on in this small town.
01:13:08One was the governor.
01:13:09The other was the mayor.
01:13:10The mayor was crying.
01:13:12He said, I went to the school.
01:13:13My kids were in the school.
01:13:15They're okay, but they're injured.
01:13:16He said, you're the first people that have come to our school.
01:13:19No one from Moscow came.
01:13:21You're the first people.
01:13:23I said, we're here to show you that the American people care about your people.
01:13:26We're not making any political statements.
01:13:28We have no media with us.
01:13:30There's no Western media allowed.
01:13:32We're here to show you.
01:13:34We drove down on the bus to the school.
01:13:36Now, I taught school for seven years.
01:13:38This three-story brick building is identical to what I taught when I taught in Darby,
01:13:42when I taught in the schools of Delaware County and Philadelphia.
01:13:45Same kind of building.
01:13:46I have the photos of it.
01:13:47I'll show them to you.
01:13:48We arrived.
01:13:49The building was completely burned.
01:13:51Roof was off.
01:13:52Windows were all broken out.
01:13:53It was a nightmare.
01:13:55There was a six-foot mound of flowers, teddy bears, bottles of water in the center,
01:13:59and the families were going around crying, openly weeping, sobbing.
01:14:03It was terrible.
01:14:04And they said to me, would you say, so at the center of this six-foot-high pile of flowers,
01:14:13I took out a resolution I'd had the House pass.
01:14:17The House passed a resolution unanimous.
01:14:20Nobody opposed.
01:14:22A resolution extending prayers and sympathy to the families and children of Beslan, North Ossetia, Russia.
01:14:30I gave it to the mayor and the governor.
01:14:32Then I pulled out an American flag.
01:14:35We had the flag flown over the Capitol in honor of the friendship between the people of America
01:14:41and the people of Beslan, North Ossetia, Russia.
01:14:46And then we prayed, and they said, will you come to the local hospital?
01:14:50We walked over.
01:14:51It was not a hospital.
01:14:52It was a third-rate infirmary, but they were doing the best job they could.
01:14:56We all took all the money out of our pockets and gave it to the doctors there.
01:15:00It was time to go back to the plane.
01:15:02As we got on the bus, I said to my two colleagues, on the way here, we passed the cemetery.
01:15:07It was covered with freshly covered graves.
01:15:10I think that's where the children are.
01:15:12I think we should stop there because the Russian media is following us.
01:15:15They agreed.
01:15:16As we drive the bus down this dirt road, we stop at the cemetery.
01:15:20I walk up.
01:15:20I'd never been here before in my life.
01:15:228,000 miles from America.
01:15:248,000 miles.
01:15:25I stop at a gravesite.
01:15:27I have photographs of it.
01:15:29We rather around the gravesite, the three of us, Trent Franks from Arizona, Marks out of India, and me.
01:15:34And I have one eye open.
01:15:35I'm looking down, and I read Cyrillic because I took Russia in high school and college.
01:15:40And I'm looking at the ribbon on the flowers.
01:15:42The colors are red, white, and blue, like America.
01:15:44And the tail end of the ribbon, it says, that's USA.
01:15:51I said, wait a minute.
01:15:53How could there be flowers on a grave 8,000 miles from America?
01:15:57One week's school was attacked, and the kids were slaughtered.
01:16:02Trent Franks finished the prayer, and I said, kneel down with me.
01:16:04I want to unfurl the ribbon.
01:16:05I unfurl the ribbon and read the whole thing.
01:16:08Those flowers were sent somehow by the families, the community, and first responders of Columbine, Colorado.
01:16:17So that's – I'll take a polygraph.
01:16:24That's the problem we have.
01:16:26It's not the people.
01:16:28It's not the people around the world.
01:16:30And until we understand that we get some of these scumbags that hide behind their – and their big houses, and their beachfront properties, and don't think about who dies or who gets wounded or blinded, it's not going to stop.
01:16:46And if we're not willing to do that, we're not the patriots that we talk about our country being.
01:16:51So thank you for having me on, and God bless America.
01:16:54That's a good way to say it's not Democrat versus Republican.
01:16:57It's not black versus white.
01:16:59It's –
01:16:59It's not.
01:17:00Good versus evil is what this is.
01:17:01Exactly right.
01:17:03Thank you for what you're doing.
01:17:04We appreciate you, Kurt.
01:17:05Thank you so much.
01:17:06My pleasure.
01:17:07What I did, I just sent your contact information to somebody who has direct contacts with Tulsi's chief of staff.
01:17:15So I said I think it's imperative that, you know, Kurt's able to just give him some context on Russia specifically.
01:17:22But – so hopefully you'll get a phone call from somebody in Tulsi's staff.
01:17:27I'm willing – I don't want anything.
01:17:28I don't want any money.
01:17:29All I want to do is help.
01:17:31You know, my days of running for officer over.
01:17:33I'm not looking for any consulting fees or any position.
01:17:35All I want to help, like you guys, I want to help the country.
01:17:38Amen.
01:17:38You know, and Warren, I'll leave it with this.
01:17:41And Kurt, in Marine Corps language, I think Tulsi's got more balls than a lot of guys there in D.C.
01:17:45She does.
01:17:46She's amazing.
01:17:47Amazing.
01:17:48And I give her credit.
01:17:50I tried to brief her before she went in, and I could never link up with her.
01:17:53But she's doing a great job.
01:17:54But if I meet with her, I'll give her some other things she needs to know that will allow her to rock the boat even more.
01:18:01I'll give names.
01:18:02See, I have names.
01:18:03I have names.
01:18:04I have details, and I have documents.
01:18:07That's the difference.
01:18:07I didn't give you the name of the person.
01:18:09That person I talked about who made the millions, I know his name.
01:18:12He's still active.
01:18:14And he's a scumbag.
01:18:15A scumbag.
01:18:16So were you called at D.C.?
01:18:17Were you called there?
01:18:18Or did somebody say, hey, you need to talk to Kurt Weldon?
01:18:20Or how did that work out?
01:18:21How did you get to there?
01:18:23The same way that Matt is talking about getting you with these other people, with Tulsi?
01:18:29What do you mean?
01:18:29For which?
01:18:31To go to D.C. just lately.
01:18:34Oh, now?
01:18:34Oh, I went down to meet with Matt's friend.
01:18:37Okay.
01:18:38But I get out of D.C. all the time.
01:18:40My office in D.C. is with three federal judges.
01:18:43Yes, sir.
01:18:43My best friend in D.C. is Judge Gene Sullivan.
01:18:46Judge Sullivan is a West Point grad, Army Ranger, Hall of Fame.
01:18:49He was chief counsel for the Air Force, chief counsel for the NRO.
01:18:52And Ronald Reagan appointed him the oversight judge for the Pentagon.
01:18:55He's my best friend.
01:18:57I don't pay any rent.
01:18:58My office is with him and Louis Free.
01:19:00And Steve Borkin, before he died, was chief counsel for the CIA.
01:19:04But they know everything about me.
01:19:05There's no secrets.
01:19:07And Judge Sullivan knows everything I do.
01:19:10That's why I'm not afraid of any of these scumbags.
01:19:12We appreciate you.
01:19:14Thanks for coming on.
01:19:15My pleasure.
01:19:16If we can do anything for you, please ask.
01:19:19We're ready.
01:19:19Keep up the fight.
01:19:20Keep up the fight.
01:19:21Yes, sir.
01:19:22Have a good day.
01:19:22We will.
01:19:23Thank you, sir.
01:19:24Appreciate it.
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