No Vozes do Poder, André Marinho questiona Robert Kennedy Jr. sobre a explosão do vaping entre jovens no Brasil. O secretário aconselha o país e detalha sua política nos EUA, que reprime vapes com apelo infantil, mas usa versões menos prejudiciais como transição para fumantes, ressaltando que o cigarro é o principal inimigo.
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00:00In terms of the anxiety crisis both of our countries also face,
00:04the WHO has ranked Brazil as the number one most anxious country on the planet.
00:09Other than that, you've described the mental health crisis as the cannery in the coal mine here in the United States.
00:16And particularly the cohort that has fallen the most behind in America are young boys.
00:22They are four times more likely to kill themselves, three times as likely to be addicted,
00:27twelve times as likely to be incarcerated.
00:29You also see teen anxiety and depression rising 37% among girls.
00:34And in Brazil, I mean, we have 8,000 cases per 100,000 people, which is just a travesty.
00:41Both of our countries are within the top five social media using countries.
00:48How can you draw a link on that or can you describe that tendency for us?
00:53I think it's tough growing up today, wherever you live in the world,
00:58largely because of the food.
01:00And, you know, we now know and there's a whole bibliography of emerging science that shows that that food is connected to mental illness,
01:11it's connected to suicide, it's connected to depression.
01:16And even at Harvard, there's a professor, Dr. Polin, who has cured people of schizophrenia by changing their diet.
01:27And we know that dietary changes can have dramatic impacts on restoring mental health.
01:33And a part of it is there is just a...
01:35Could you could you cite what are the most nauseous, depression inducing foods?
01:39Well, I mean, one of the reasons that we banned the nine synthetic petroleum based guys is because they're clearly linked with ADHD.
01:51And there are there are multiple studies that anybody can find on the Internet right now about changing diets in prisons and in juvenile detention facilities.
02:06Typically, if you change the diet to whole food in prison, the violence decreases by about 40 percent.
02:14And one of the studies show in juvenile detention facilities that the that the suicide rate dropped by 100 percent, that the use of restraints dropped by 75 percent and that infractions dropped by 60 or 70 percent.
02:36And so and violence and, you know, all of these things are ultimately very, very closely tied to food.
02:43But you're right. It's not just the food. It's social media.
02:46It's the sense of alienation, of dispossession that and the malaise that people experience when they when they detach from their communities.
03:01So the I think the social media has accelerated and amplified the the essential sense of dispossession that people have a disconnection from community.
03:15Addiction is really a it's a it's a symptom of isolation.
03:20Addiction is a disease of isolation and part of the recovery from addiction is about reestablishing people's connection to their community, their relationships, their sense, their intimacy, their bonds with other human beings.
03:38And so, you know, there is a larger societal change that we have to work toward and we're doing that in this administration.
03:51How about vaping and contraband policy, which is also just incredible how in Brazil, Mr. Secretary, it has risen 600 percent from 2018 to 2023, the youth consumption of vaping.
04:06As you know, many Chinese made vapes have been flooding the American market and American shelves.
04:11The FDA recently seized a thirty four million dollars worth in Chicago and in Brazil, our regulatory health agency and visa banned it in 2024.
04:23But teen vaping is just booming. The gray market is prospering.
04:27Is there any practical advice you would give Brazilian policymakers on how we can tackle that excessive use that's been poisoning our youth?
04:35The you know, there is two issues. One is the Chinese vaped.
04:41Which are directed toward children, you know, they're very bright colors.
04:46It's cotton candy flavors. They are often accompanied by video games or other forms of entertainment that are directed towards children.
04:54And and and and we're very worried about those and we're now doing a crackdown on them nationwide.
05:03And it's the first crackdown that we've ever had on them. But we're being very, very aggressive about them.
05:09And at the same time, we are we are fast tracking approval of of vapes that don't do that because.
05:17Because. Oh, we're seeing as you, you know, you made note of the fact that children are that vaping has dramatically risen among children, but cigarette smoke has gone down.
05:29Oh, we have maybe one percent of American kids one to depending on the highest three percent.
05:36Generally speaking, about one percent who smoke cigarettes and they you know, the vapes are they don't they don't burn tobacco and nicotine itself does not cause cancer.
05:52There is no evidence that it's carcinogenic. It may, in fact, have some health benefits.
05:58It's clearly addictive. It may have other health benefits.
06:02We have an NIH study that shows that it, you know, that it reduces onset of of Alzheimer's and of dementia.
06:14And so and it's it's it's infinitely preferential to smoking.
06:19I think that the nicotine pouches are probably the safest way to to to consume nicotine vapes are second.
06:31But the thing that we really want to get away from is cigarettes, because the cost of our country, just of cigarette smoke, the health care costs about six hundred and forty billion a year.
