Robert Kennedy Jr. nega ser antivacina e critica lockdowns

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No Vozes do Poder, André Marinho confronta Robert Kennedy Jr. sobre sua fama de antivacina. O secretário nega o rótulo, critica os lockdowns como uma manobra para transferir riqueza aos mais ricos e analisa como os Estados Unidos da América enfrentaram a pandemia da Covid-19.

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00:00Secretary Kennedy, you were one of the most outspoken critics of the official public health narrative

00:07that prevailed during the COVID years, and you were quickly branded by the vested interests

00:15and the mainstream media here in America, and the Brazilian mainstream media largely regurgitates

00:21and basically toe their line in calling you an anti-vaxxer.

00:25I'm sure you've answered that question a thousand times before, but at least for the Brazilian

00:29that might be witnessing your words for the first time, how would you respond to that?

00:36And do you feel vindicated from all of the reversals in how we actually evaluated the nature and

00:45the impact of the COVID pandemic around the world?

00:49I've never been anti-vaccine, but applying that, and you know, I had all my children vaccinated.

00:56I received all my vaccines, but applying that pejorative to me of anti-vaccine is a way of

01:04marginalizing or vilifying me and of silencing me and saying, well, you don't have to listen

01:11to him because he's anti-vax.

01:14That same pejorative is applied to almost anybody who criticizes vaccine mandates.

01:19That doesn't make them anti-vaccine or who criticized the COVID response.

01:25And the COVID response was, I would say, appalling.

01:30How so?

01:31Well, because it was, I think it's clear today that the emergency was used as a way of clamping

01:41down, uh, totalitarian controls and of shifting wealth upward, this lockdowns, you know,

01:48were the biggest transfer in wealth in human history, uh, uh, trillions, tens of trillions

01:54of dollars in wealth shifted from the poor around the world to, you know, to large corporations

02:01and to wealthy people.

02:02And then we saw governments around the world ending democratic rights and constitutional

02:09rights, and, and they've never recovered in most cases.

02:12Europe is still, Europe is a place where there's no freedom of speech, where they're arresting

02:16people or criticizing government policies and putting them in jail.

02:21So, you know, that's something that nobody would have believed 10 years ago, but it became

02:27a reality during COVID and then the medical policies and COVID were a departure from the standard

02:34policies for pandemic controls that were published by WHO, by the European Medical Agency, by CDC,

02:43NIH and HHS.

02:46We didn't do what we were supposed to do, which is, you know, never locked down a society for

02:50a respiratory illness.

02:51First, you isolate the sick, you protect the vulnerable, but you keep society moving and

03:00the lockdown has killed probably far, far more people than COVID.

03:04Do you think the disproportionate death tolls in Brazil and the U.S. reflect these failed

03:10policies and these totalitarian impulses you've just described or underlying health conditions

03:15that were already there of these two very six societies that we've been mentioning?

03:20I think both things are true and, you know, it's going to be hard.

03:25You know, one of the most frustrating parts about the pandemic response was the information

03:32chaos.

03:33We were not told the truth about things and the information tabulating and collecting and analytical

03:41systems were designed to fail.

03:43And so it's going to be hard ever really parsing out what caused, you know, what caused disproportionate

03:54deaths in some countries.

03:55I'll say this.

03:57And the lower vaccinated countries in the world tended to have the lowest death tolls.

04:04And I'll give you an example.

04:05And again, you know, you don't know because the information chaos and the different collection

04:12systems and data in different countries.

04:15But in Haiti, the death rate from COVID was about 14 people per million population.

04:21And they Haiti had a vaccination rate of about one point three percent of very few people

04:30got vaccinated.

04:31And yet there does not seem to have been a COVID pandemic in Haiti.

04:35Nigeria had a had a death rate from COVID of 14 per million population.

04:43In our country, the death rate was over 3000 people per million population.

04:49So we are 200 times the death rate of countries that were essentially unvaccinated.

04:54America, 4.2 percent of the global population, right, suffered over 1.1 million COVID deaths

04:59represented about 16 percent of the COVID deaths.

05:02That's it.

05:0316 percent.

05:04And we have, as you say, around four percent of the world's population.

05:08So we did worse than any country in the world.

05:10Brazil was close.

05:10Was close.

05:11Right.

05:11We're talking about 12 percent of global COVID-19 deaths while making up only 2.7 percent

05:16of the world's population.

05:17So similar, similar, right?

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