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00:00Previously on The Real Housewives of Orange County.
00:18How many people have had an orgasm in here?
00:21I would like to put this next to my bed.
00:25Don't anyone talk to me right now.
00:27Do you want a date?
00:27I mean, you know, there's a couple of guys that I know who kissed them.
00:31They're just kissing.
00:32I do like a kiss, if it's good.
00:34Shannon defending Katie last night, like, I got pissed off.
00:38They're worried that you plan what you're going to do or say.
00:40I wish I was that smart.
00:42Last year, Katie was filming Shannon having a meltdown and showed it to Alexis.
00:49Oh, last year she reported to you at the gallery shoot and then sent the video to Alexis.
00:53Why would you do that when I'm in active litigation with her fiancé?
00:58Are you kidding me?
01:01Just a few years ago, you were still talking about me and stayed on the podcast.
01:05Wait, you're going to roll your eyes with that?
01:06You think she didn't contact my daughter?
01:09It's not the same thing.
01:11Oh, okay, Yvonne.
01:13Life can be hard, but so are my abs.
01:24For once, the only dogs in my life are golden retrievers.
01:30I may not be your cup of tea, but I'll bring you an espresso martini.
01:33I love life in the hills, so I always take the high road.
01:42I may work in real estate, but that doesn't mean I'm buying what you're selling.
01:47I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but my truth.
01:53I'm taking a hard look in the mirror, and my reflection is still hot.
02:03I have a reservation for two.
02:19My friend is joining me.
02:20You're all good.
02:21Your technician is going to be with you shortly.
02:23Just go ahead and thank you.
02:24Okay, thank you.
02:27Hi.
02:28Hi.
02:28How are you?
02:30Good to you.
02:31I got it from the Gap.
02:32I swear to God, they've got a revival.
02:35What are we doing, Karen?
02:36Okay, so it's like a deep clean of your scalp.
02:39Do you know what they're going to find?
02:40Nine pounds of dry shampoo in mine.
02:42I know.
02:43Hi, guys.
02:44We're going to take you to your room.
02:46Okay, come on.
02:48We have robes, slippers.
02:50Okay.
02:50If you want to keep your bra on, that's fine.
02:52We'll just move the straps.
02:54Oh, my God.
02:55It's so romantic, Katie.
02:56We just made up, and we're really going for it.
02:59You know what I miss the most?
03:00I'm just talking and laughing and hanging out with Gina.
03:02And that is why I hold on to this, because I genuinely liked you.
03:06I am sorry, both of you, that I hurt you.
03:08I truly am.
03:10I'm willing to do anything to get these ladies back on my side, even paying for a really expensive
03:15scalp treatment.
03:18That she needs.
03:19I don't know what you're going to...
03:20Like, a Lego is going to fall out.
03:21Like, I don't know what you're going to find in there.
03:24Just a little bit of buildup, but that's totally normal.
03:27I have accepted Katie's apology, and I am willing to move forward with her, but trust,
03:33that's going to take a minute.
03:34Like, that's just going to have to be rebuilt over time.
03:39Are we going here?
03:40We're going to put you under the red light therapy.
03:43Oh, yes.
03:44Well, thank you for coming today.
03:45I just feel like I'm on, like, an apology tour right now.
03:48I'm sorry I went about it the way I did.
03:50I was pissed.
03:51Okay, I appreciate your apology.
03:53I apologize.
03:54I swear to God.
03:55Like, I would never intentionally do that to you.
03:57Why would you do that?
03:58Shannon, I'm sorry.
04:00Truly.
04:01I'm just glad, honestly, that you and I are here, and Emily didn't sneak in and show up,
04:05too.
04:05I have boundaries, and you don't.
04:08I know.
04:09I'm sorry about that.
04:12Togo, go upstairs.
04:15Togo, go upstairs.
04:18You're in trouble.
04:18Go upstairs.
04:20There you go.
04:21Good boy.
04:24Hello.
04:25Hello.
04:26Sorry.
04:26I had a dog issue.
04:27How are you?
04:28I'm good.
04:29Thanks for coming over.
04:30Do you want to go sit outside?
04:31It's nice out.
04:32Look.
04:32Is that a dog or a coyote?
04:33Oh, that's my dog I'm fostering.
04:36Oh.
04:36She likes to hide in the bushes a lot.
04:38She's an Australian cattle dog.
04:40Cute.
04:41It's sad, but she's getting better.
04:43I'm so tired from yesterday or from life or from everything.
04:47Well, life in general, but yesterday was just, like, pushed me over the edge.
04:52So what did you think when Gretchen walked in?
04:54Hi.
04:54How are you?
04:55Tamara Judge.
04:56Nice to meet you, Tamara.
04:57I'm Gretchen Rossi.
04:58I'm like, you look like an episode of Toddlers in Tears is what I wanted to say.
05:02Oh.
05:03I mean, clearly she hasn't moved forward.
05:05She's angry about the podcast.
05:06I know that Slade lost a son and that's hard, but Michelle lost everything taking care of
05:12her son.
05:13Gretchen just got a big chunk of money.
05:14Michelle is having to go through GoFundMe to pay for his services.
05:19Yeah.
05:20Probably not great, Tamara.
05:21The problem with Tamara isn't recognizing that she said anything wrong.
05:26It's always trying to rationalize why she did it.
05:28We were trying to help the mom out with the funeral expenses, and I said, well, I hope
05:33that Gretchen donates, too.
05:35That was it.
05:36It was inappropriate, and she shouldn't have done that.
05:38She should apologize for that.
05:40I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings.
05:42The first time I listened to it, I thought, huh, is that bad?
05:45Then I played it again.
05:45I go, really?
05:46It's not.
05:47Yeah, Tamara, that was bad.
05:49It's almost like she just doesn't hear herself sometimes.
05:53Yeah.
05:53You know?
05:53But then also, I will give Tamara this.
05:56The daughter posts something, and then Gretchen goes on there and responds to that.
06:01She did.
06:02That's a huge hurt for Tamara.
06:04She went to my daughter's minor Facebook page.
06:07She's a minor at the time.
06:08I know, and she commented on it.
06:09Mm-hmm.
06:09That s***.
06:11Can you imagine Katie doing that to Annabelle?
06:13She might, yes.
06:14She might.
06:15There are moments where it could be lighthearted, and it could be fun.
06:20And that's what I thought it was going to be yesterday.
06:22Then I got tag-teamed with, with, uh, Dimwit.
06:25Oh, Jen.
06:26Yeah.
06:26Jen.
06:28Huh?
06:33Hi.
06:33Welcome in.
06:34Hi.
06:34Party at three?
06:35Party at three.
06:36Okay.
06:36Ooh, and jelly beans?
06:38Can I take some jelly beans?
06:39Yeah, right this way.
06:42Hi.
06:43Hi.
06:43I think I'm over there.
06:44Hey.
06:44You look so pretty.
06:46I do?
06:46Yeah.
06:46You look amazing.
06:47Hey.
06:48How are you?
06:49I'm still dealing with yesterday.
06:51I'm Ashley.
06:52I'll be able to take care of you.
06:52I'm Jen.
06:53Nice to meet you.
06:54Are you having a drink?
06:55Yes.
06:55I want, um, a little spout.
06:58I want a really dirty martini.
07:00Cool.
07:00Anything great?
07:00What does an espresso martini look like in these parts?
07:03Um, it's dark, not light.
07:04We don't put any cream in it.
07:05Cool.
07:05So good.
07:06Hi.
07:07Hi.
07:07How are you?
07:08You look so pro.
07:08Oh, are you wearing a leather?
07:09Beautiful.
07:10I'm singling.
07:12Well, yesterday was pretty brutal.
07:14The hot pot.
07:15I sent her a text.
07:16Did she text you back?
07:17No.
07:18The fact that I hurt her, I'm dying on the inside right now.
07:21Yeah.
07:22What you did, the recording, is what is very violating and scary.
07:25It's bad.
07:25Yeah, yeah.
07:26But at the same time, I think she'll get over it.
07:29I got a text this morning.
07:31She texted you?
07:32She texted me this morning, and it really set you off.
07:36I met with Katie the day after the Golden Door.
07:39You just said, if I did something.
07:41That's like an apology, but.
07:43But here's the thing, Shannon.
07:44But here's the thing, but.
07:45Okay, but.
07:45So, after that being said, I got a butt.
07:49Yes, I had an audio recording of gallery shoot day, but no one's heard the recording.
07:55I don't give a f*** who heard the recording, because I know other people did.
08:02Can I tell you something?
08:03Emily told me the other day that this all happened.
08:06So, on my way to Hot Pot, I called Alexis.
08:09I called Alexis.
08:10I called Alexis.
08:13She said, we're at lunch.
08:15She played it for me.
08:16She couldn't remember if Jen was there or not.
08:18I should have never overshared with Alexis.
08:21I was with Alexis and Jen.
08:23We're on a triple date, and I shared that, and I should have never done that.
08:26But I wasn't at a lunch where she played it.
08:29It must have been the two of them.
08:30I can assure you, Katie did not play that recording in front of me.
08:33I have never hung out with Alexis alone, so Jen was there.
08:37I believe Jen.
08:39Jen's not a liar.
08:40Yeah, I 100% believe Alexis.
08:42Sometimes Jen doesn't remember all the details.
08:44Shannon, audio recording somebody is there.
08:48I don't even.
08:48There's no coming back for that.
08:49She can't say I didn't do it on video.
08:52Uh, and?
08:52F***ing kidding.
08:53Who cares?
08:54But what do I do, Shannon?
08:56I don't think there's any coming back.
08:58You don't?
08:58No.
08:59Katie has crossed so many lines, and so has Tamara.
09:03I am not Tamara's keeper, and I'm not Katie's.
09:07Do you give her grace because you're safer to be in that position?
09:10I'm not scared of Tammy.
09:13I love how I'm held at a totally different standard than anybody else, according to Jen.
09:19Katie can do horrible things, but what I did last year, I'm the f***ing devil.
09:24I'm the devil, and she cannot get over it.
09:27You know what I feel like they're doing?
09:28They're baiting me.
09:29No, they are.
09:30I agree with that.
09:31They're baiting me because Ryan just put that post out saying that you say my name once,
09:36and I have that lawsuit ready for you.
09:38My attorney said, do not be around him.
09:40You know what?
09:41He wants to sue me.
09:42I'm smart enough to know.
09:44Just don't talk about it.
09:45Don't talk about it.
09:47I'm not falling for your bait.
09:48What are you going to do about Heather's party?
09:51Heather said she's taking care of it.
09:52Can we switch subjects just for a second?
09:56I am having a birthday party for myself.
10:01Shocker.
10:02Even though her birthday was a month and a half ago, happy birthday, Heather.
10:07So my birthday's January 5th, but I don't like celebrating because it's right after the
10:11holidays.
10:11Everyone's like broke and fat and hungover and dry and whatever.
10:16So I usually wait until February, and it's just an excuse to get dressed up and like have
10:21a bit of fun.
10:21But there's a little bit of a conundrum.
10:23I told Tamara I was having this party, and she said to me, are Jen and Ryan coming?
10:27I go, of course I'm going to invite Jen.
10:29And she said that her attorney said that she shouldn't be in the same room with him.
10:34And she goes, so we just won't come.
10:35I don't want her to not come.
10:37I want you to come as well.
10:39And I'm not telling you not to bring Ryan.
10:41I just don't know how to handle this.
10:43But then you're choosing Tamara.
10:46Because that's my husband, who did nothing.
10:50I had to sit there and argue that my kids lived in a safe house that was never raided by
10:55the FBI.
10:56I had to pay attorney fees that I do not have the money for because your friend said we were
11:02raided by the FBI.
11:04That woman caused so much pain.
11:07So she doesn't want to come and be around Ryan.
11:10her.
11:11Okay, sweetie.
11:12Sweetie.
11:13Oh, that's the truth.
11:14I'm sorry.
11:15I'm sorry.
11:16That is so painful that you just asked me that.
11:18I didn't ask you anything.
11:19Just don't invite me.
11:20I'm not.
11:21I'm inviting you.
11:22Why do you shine with her?
11:24Why do you shine?
11:24I'm not exciting.
11:26But you do.
11:26Why do you lower yourself?
11:28No, no, no.
11:29That's bulls**t.
11:29Are you not lowering yourself to be with someone who will videotape one of our friends?
11:36I don't think that's a fair comparison.
11:38Recording Shannon was horrible.
11:40But Tamara's done damage to people.
11:43And I'm sorry, but you are the company you keep.
11:46And Heather is better than that.
11:48You know what, Jen?
11:48If you're looking at me and my friendships, what does this say about you and yours?
11:53This is my money go-on-der.
11:54Oh, yeah.
11:56I'm sorry you're upset.
11:57No, I'm sorry that I get upset, but it is just not Ryan, Heather.
12:01All right, well, then I'm just going to invite everyone, and we'll let the chips fall where
12:04they may.
12:04So, chicken, rice, or teriyaki sauce?
12:17Yeah.
12:18Okay.
12:19Easy.
12:20What should I draw?
12:21Hmm.
12:22I know those, like, anime things where they, like, do, like, a power scene in the ball,
12:28you know?
12:28What if I draw that?
12:29You could draw that.
12:30Hi, guys.
12:31Hi, Caddy.
12:31How's it going, B?
12:32It's going pretty good.
12:34Oh, do you want to make that dip?
12:35Yeah.
12:35Grab the pepper jelly.
12:36Hey, Gap?
12:37Yeah.
12:38Where is he?
12:39In his room.
12:39He's probably playing Xbox.
12:41We're eating some dip.
12:42Are you hungry?
12:43Uh, a little hungry.
12:45Do you like this thing?
12:46You've had it before.
12:47Uh, kind of.
12:48Except G.
12:49Last year, Gavin was splitting his time between Orange County and San Diego.
12:53Weekends, he'd be in Orange County with us.
12:55Weekdays, he would be in San Diego with Matt for school.
12:58But he wanted to be with his friends and party and hang out.
13:01And even now that he's full-time in Orange County, I barely see him ever.
13:06He's working, friends, girlfriend.
13:08He's always gone.
13:09Our grades, they're good.
13:11Really?
13:11Actually, I checked on him because I have it on my app.
13:13Your grades are really good.
13:15I know it was not easy switching schools for senior year.
13:18But at least you still get to see your friends from San Diego, right?
13:21Yeah.
13:22You know, Max talked about Christmas when he was here, moving here.
13:25It's the first time he's ever really acknowledged moving home.
13:29I got a lot of criticism from a lot of people for letting Max make his own decision where he wants to live.
13:35So you have one child that still lives in?
13:37Georgia.
13:38Georgia.
13:38He's 14.
13:39Is that hard?
13:40Yes, extremely.
13:42But I always wanted my kids to grow up knowing that their mother supported what they wanted.
13:48Because courts tell kids where to go all the time.
13:50And they're miserable.
13:51The main reason he was thinking about really moving here was to be with you.
13:55That has to feel good.
13:57I think it's just because we were together for so long.
13:59You know, we got separated for a bit for a long time.
14:02So then we kind of just like, I don't know.
14:04You miss each other.
14:05We started our custody battle almost 11 years ago.
14:09And I think that giving up legal and physical custody at the time was the best decision for my kids.
14:14For you to lose both physical and legal custody as well.
14:17That's the part that doesn't make sense to me.
14:19At the time, I was literally homeless with three kids.
14:22We had nowhere to go.
14:24That was horrible, horrible time.
14:27I'm sorry, Annie.
14:28To stay in the home that they were growing up in, to keep going to the school in their district.
14:32That was the best choice for them.
14:33I just got through it.
14:35You know, I worked.
14:35I made money.
14:36I feel like a woman should come to another woman, praising her and uplifting her for something that she survived.
14:42Using that against me, I feel like, is really sh**.
14:44Bannon, what do you think about all of us being at one house now when Maxim was here?
14:49I really love it.
14:50I just don't like him not being here.
14:53I know.
14:53I just always miss him.
14:55So I just get mad at him.
14:57I've been trying to make it work for so many years.
15:00And it's just really been a struggle.
15:02So now to have them all together feels like I've reached the end.
15:10You don't get mad when sissy goes away for a long time.
15:13That's because he's way more annoying than I am.
15:27Hey guys, welcome to Our Rumble.
15:29Are we walking in or a reservation?
15:30We have a reservation, a party of six.
15:32Okay.
15:33He has brought his own bowling shoes.
15:36Yeah.
15:37I'm a nine and a half.
15:38There you go.
15:39You guys are going to be on lane number one.
15:40It's going to be all the way to 11.
15:41Okay, got it.
15:46Prepare yourself to lose, sir.
15:48To who?
15:50Hello.
15:53That was so hot.
15:55I didn't know you like bowlers.
15:56Hello.
15:58Hi.
15:58You look so cute.
15:59I love your jeans.
16:00I know they're too big, though.
16:02He looks good.
16:02That's a big problem.
16:04Do you know Shannon's man's name?
16:06Who is this man?
16:07We need to get this guy.
16:09Like, we need to get him.
16:10Well, here's the question.
16:11Is this guy the same guy she's going to take to Heather's party?
16:14Heather's birthday party?
16:15That's a month later?
16:17Why is it a birthday party?
16:18Why not just make it a party?
16:20Because she must celebrate herself.
16:21I'll open the door, man.
16:25We have some pros here.
16:27Who's ready to bowl?
16:29How do you get personalized bowling shirts like that?
16:32I know.
16:32It's amazing.
16:33That is impressive.
16:34This is Adam, you guys.
16:35Hi, Adam and Nina.
16:37Nice to meet you.
16:37Nice to meet you.
16:39Adam was on the Love Hotel with me.
16:41I'm really glad I met you.
16:42I am, too.
16:44But I eliminated him.
16:46I can't go forward without giving Earl my tea.
16:51Adam is six years younger than I am.
16:53He says he might want to have kids again.
16:54That ain't happening here.
16:55I feel like she's still on the Sting English Hotel.
16:59Like, she hasn't stopped.
17:01Shannon dated a guy named Earl.
17:03I don't know why they broke up.
17:04Maybe this guy is good for Shannon,
17:07because he's clearly wacky enough
17:08to wear a matching bowling shirt.
17:10They seem equally nuts.
17:13Why don't we team up?
17:14You do the first shot, and I'll do the second.
17:16I like that, Adam.
17:18Damn it!
17:19Okay, Adam.
17:22Woo-hoo!
17:23Did you just bowl holding a chicken finger?
17:30What the f***?
17:32Who am I playing with, man?
17:34What was that?
17:39So annoying.
17:41I can't do it!
17:43Who's on deck?
17:45Gina's up.
17:46So when was, like, your last serious relationship?
17:49It's been a while.
17:50So are you, like, a big drinker?
17:53Or...
17:53No.
17:54No?
17:54Do you have, like, a temper?
17:55Or are you pretty even-keeled kind of guy?
17:58Very even-keeled.
17:59I simply will not tolerate
18:01a John Jansen 2.0 situation.
18:04F*** Gina.
18:05It is not happening.
18:06We have post-traumatic John.
18:08We do.
18:08We have post-traumatic disorder.
18:09I don't care if I have to stay here all night
18:13and grill this man.
18:14Are you an early birdie
18:15or, like, a night owl?
18:17I can be both.
18:18So do you, like, have a free schedule then?
18:21I'm flexible.
18:22You got, like, your retirement plan all going?
18:24No, I'm never gonna retire.
18:26Is he a private person?
18:28Does he low-key want to be very famous?
18:31Do you believe that we landed on the moon?
18:33No.
18:34I just need to know.
18:35We didn't.
18:36You're acting like our dogs.
18:37What?
18:38I know.
18:38I'm a little close.
18:39I'm a little close.
18:39You're up their asses.
18:40I'm gonna take it down.
18:42Let them have some space.
18:44There's a stripe.
18:45Are we all going to Heather's birthday party?
18:47Heather did tell me the other night
18:48that Katie's coming.
18:49Well, she'll be here.
18:50I'll be over there.
18:51Right.
18:51That's what I said.
18:52When I see Katie at Heather's party,
18:56I intend to make it very, very clear
18:58I have nothing else to ever say to her again.
19:01You're gonna crash when you get home, huh?
19:04You're gonna crash?
19:06Sleep.
19:07I call sleep a crash.
19:08Adam and I, this is stop one.
19:10We're gonna do an outfit change
19:12and then go to the next place.
19:13Oh.
19:14Oh.
19:14Living it up.
19:16Coming up.
19:17You've been very calm.
19:20My life in the past six months
19:22has just been such a downer.
19:24I feel like I'm crying all the time
19:25and I'm like, I'm sick of it.
19:35Dom.
19:36What?
19:36Come here.
19:37So what are you and dad signing up for?
19:39What sport?
19:39Football and soccer and basketball.
19:42Okay, so you're gonna do all three sports?
19:44Yeah.
19:45What did you do the other day at school?
19:46And I said, you and I have to talk about this.
19:48You talk too much in P.E.?
19:50Yeah.
19:51How many warnings did you get?
19:52Uh...
19:5316.
19:54He shouldn't laugh.
19:58He shouldn't laugh.
19:59So you're grounded.
20:00Go upstairs.
20:01Thank you, Ryan, for getting me out of that.
20:04You're like a fun uncle.
20:06Ryan and I are still working on the whole parenting thing.
20:09Where's Dost?
20:10I don't know.
20:10Love you with Dom.
20:11Oh, come down.
20:13Being a stepdad isn't easy because they do have a dad.
20:16I would prefer if he was a bit more active with the kids.
20:19He's got a bit of a hands-off approach as they all live under our roof.
20:22But that's his decision and that works for him.
20:25What's up?
20:26We are talking about moving the wedding sooner
20:29because you're leaving to go to boot camp.
20:32Yeah.
20:33When are we pulling the trigger on that?
20:34Baby, this is a you thing.
20:36I'm not getting married without Dawson being there.
20:38I agree.
20:39Dawson came to me after he had already met with a recruiter with his dad.
20:44And the conversation was, I'm joining the Marines.
20:47This is the path that you want to take in your life.
20:50Honey.
20:51Huh?
20:52He's committed.
20:53I know.
20:54He's in.
20:54Yeah, I know.
20:55It's hard.
20:56I don't know if Dawson is trying to make his dad proud.
20:59It just causes a little bit of worry or stress or something like that.
21:02Of course, I'm so proud of Dawson, but I'm a mom.
21:06They say, like, the hardest part of it isn't physical, it's mental.
21:10And so it's like, I'm kind of, like, nervous.
21:11I kind of just want it to be here already.
21:13Like, I want all this training to hurry up.
21:16What does dad say?
21:16He's just so proud of you.
21:18Yeah, he likes it.
21:18I'm proud of you from a maturity standpoint.
21:21It's just incredible how much you've grown.
21:23It is a fine line you walk as step-parents.
21:25There's been the issues with not respecting curfews.
21:28Ryan's blowing up my phone.
21:29He said, Dawson, he's banging on the door at midnight.
21:31But you shouldn't be home that late on a school night.
21:33It's a school night.
21:34I do think when it matters or it's a teachable moment, Ryan steps in.
21:38I'm going to come over there by you guys.
21:39I just want him to be in addition to, not in place of, their dad.
21:43You know the maturity thing I want to ask you?
21:45Actually, I've been stressing about this.
21:47Did you sign Harrison's school loan with dad?
21:52Yeah, I did.
21:54Harrison, did everything with your loan and everything get worked out?
21:58All that stuff?
21:59Mm-hmm.
22:00It's all done?
22:01Should be.
22:01It should be?
22:02I think so.
22:04Your dad asked me, but dad and I are not in a spot where I feel comfortable co-signing anything with dad, but you did.
22:10Yeah.
22:11You understand what that comes with.
22:13This is student loan.
22:15Dawson thinks he understands what he's signing.
22:17You don't.
22:19You're 18, barely.
22:20And you just took on USC student loans.
22:23Do you have any idea what this means?
22:25You are on the hook for Harrison student loans.
22:28It negatively impacts your ability to borrow in the future.
22:31So if you wanted to go buy a new car, they're going to look at your debt-to-income ratios, and they're going to show that on your debt side.
22:39Just stay in communication with your dad about that.
22:41I don't want that falling on you.
22:42So I'm out of here?
22:43If you want to be.
22:44Oh, yeah.
22:46Holy cow.
22:47Oh, yes.
22:47He believes that Will will take care of this.
22:50Bye.
22:51Love you.
22:51But what if he can't?
22:53And what is our son supposed to do?
22:55I'm blown away.
22:56I don't love this.
22:58As a father, I could not imagine putting my son in that spot.
23:06Hello.
23:09Hello, welcome.
23:10Hi, how are you?
23:11I'm good, how are you?
23:12Good, I think we have a reservation for judge.
23:14Perfect.
23:15Write this way, please.
23:16We have wine, cocktails in the middle.
23:18Can I get a hot water with lemon?
23:20Absolutely.
23:21You're welcome.
23:23Oh, a toucan.
23:25Hey, buddy.
23:26Got some pretty blue eyes.
23:29You're the mean one.
23:30I know you're the mean one.
23:32You called me old one year.
23:36What?
23:37Did you just say old?
23:42Well, f***.
23:43Hey.
23:44Hi.
23:45How are you?
23:45You look cute.
23:46George.
23:46Oh, look at your pants.
23:48How are you?
23:48I'm hanging in there.
23:49How are you doing?
23:50Okay.
23:52Hello, ladies.
23:53Are we drinking?
23:54Whatever you want.
23:55Let's get a bottle of Luz Clico.
23:56Absolutely.
23:59And one of everything on the menu.
24:01Yes, I'll take it.
24:01One of everything.
24:02But can we have wine glasses instead of champagne flutes?
24:05Absolutely.
24:06Of course.
24:06Oh, my goodness.
24:07Oh, my goodness.
24:07Oh, my goodness.
24:08Oh, my goodness.
24:08You've been very calm lately.
24:12A lot's been going on.
24:13Just this whole past six months has just been not a fun time for me.
24:18Between deep diving into therapy and Teddy and stuff.
24:22Yeah, I get that.
24:24I go down this rabbit hole every night where I just go on her Instagram and I just look
24:30at all of her videos.
24:33There's so many videos of us together and the things we've done for the past three or four
24:37years.
24:37And I don't know what's going to happen.
24:40But in my heart, I'm like, she's going to be fine.
24:43She's going to be fine.
24:44You know?
24:44And it's like this struggle inside my head.
24:47I just feel like my life in the past six months has just been such a downer.
24:52Between digging up everything from childhood to what has gone on with Sydney and all that
24:58stuff.
24:58I feel like I'm crying all the time.
25:00And I'm like, I'm sick of it.
25:01Yeah.
25:02You're doing the work on yourself.
25:04And I'll tell you, you know, and I've said it to some of the other girls, too.
25:06Like, I'm very proud of you.
25:10Just trying to do my best.
25:12You are.
25:13I've never seen Tamara go through so much emotionality.
25:17And I see her making improvements to herself and really trying.
25:23She seems balanced to me.
25:24And she's being thoughtful about her actions.
25:27I see the difference in you.
25:29And I actually, I said to Jen, I don't understand why.
25:32You guys aren't giving Tamara any grace.
25:34And I got the sense that Gretchen now getting into the mix with Jen.
25:39Oh, it's a Tamara bashing time.
25:41And I don't like that.
25:42And I really want you at my party.
25:43I know.
25:44Honestly, Heather, my attorney goes, no, do not be around him.
25:47Do not be around him.
25:48It's not worth it.
25:49So I did talk to her.
25:51How'd that go?
25:52Not well.
25:53Not well.
25:53No.
25:54No.
25:54No.
25:54No.
25:54Just tell him you can't come.
25:57I know.
25:57But I told everyone to bring their significant others and then just say, except you.
26:03It's starting a war.
26:05Why is she inviting him?
26:07Is his friendship better than mine?
26:09That's the part that hurts my feelings.
26:11You don't have a relationship with him.
26:14No, but there's 50 people.
26:16It's a mingling, dancing, hangout vibe.
26:20Just steer clear of each other.
26:23Yeah, I don't know.
26:24Come on.
26:25Get a pretty dress.
26:26Grab your husband.
26:27I know for a fact Eddie will not go.
26:29He's like, no, I don't deal with that kind of shit.
26:31I know, but maybe you can bring a friend.
26:32I'll think about it.
26:38Coming up.
26:40Wow.
26:41Where's she gone?
26:41Hello.
26:42Do you want to move?
26:43Well, what are we supposed to do?
26:44I'm not going to avoid her.
26:45Katie, she could just stay away.
26:50Woo-hoo!
26:54How much does this party cost relative to the Know Who party?
26:58Tell them more.
26:59Oh.
26:59My.
27:01Heather.
27:01Wow.
27:02This is so beautiful.
27:07Like two times, three times?
27:08I'm going to call it 4X.
27:10Four times the Know Who party?
27:13Yeah, but that was not enough.
27:13Wasn't the Know Who party $35,000?
27:16I'm so ready to start moving past all this banana stuff with Tamara.
27:20She can talk about me.
27:21She can stab me in the back.
27:22She can talk about you, stab you in the back.
27:24Don't make false allegations.
27:25And we don't need to go near her.
27:26No.
27:27Nor would we want to.
27:27Okay.
27:28Are you feeling okay with tonight?
27:30I'm so happy.
27:31You mean with my knee?
27:32Yeah.
27:32Yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
27:33Poor Ryan.
27:34He just had knee surgery yesterday.
27:36But does Ryan have any idea how hard I fought for this invitation for him?
27:39I'm sorry about your knee, but you're going to the party with me.
27:41Thank you for going with me, honey.
27:43Of course.
27:43I know it's not opportune timing.
27:44What?
27:47I wish you guys could go with me tonight.
27:49I know.
27:50I mean, I really just want to talk to Shannon.
27:51Yeah.
27:52Maybe make it a point to, like, sniff that in the bud just so that way there's no, like,
27:56peanut gallery.
27:57You mean Emily?
27:59Like, your words not land.
28:01Woohoo!
28:01Bill is my date.
28:03We were on the dating show.
28:05What?
28:05I didn't know, like, whether or not you kept in contact with anybody after.
28:11Oh, no.
28:11I kept in contact with a lot of them.
28:14I just have a bench of friends.
28:16All right, then.
28:29Oh, what a great room.
28:31Look, it's the gong.
28:32I know.
28:33This is a very Heather Dubrow event.
28:34Do I feel like I have an obligation to throw a certain level of party?
28:38Yes.
28:38I have fabulous gal sitting in a huge champagne coupe glass to pour champs.
28:44Yo.
28:45How are you?
28:45You're going to need a drink after that.
28:50I've got people rolling joints.
28:52I've got two guys doing haikus.
28:54I've got sushi and sliders and french fries and caviar bumps.
29:02That was amazing.
29:03Why the heavy filter place?
29:07And yes, I also hired professional photographers to capture the event.
29:11Not to be confused with paparazzi.
29:15Oh, my goodness.
29:20It's so ornate.
29:21What?
29:22Hi.
29:23How are you?
29:24How are you?
29:24How are you?
29:25Good to see you.
29:26Thank you for having us.
29:27Happy birthday.
29:28Happy birthday.
29:29Happy birthday.
29:29Happy birthday.
29:29Happy birthday.
29:30The point of having a birthday party is because it's your birthday when you were born, when you
29:34were born on the earth.
29:36So two months later just feels random.
29:39Hi! Happy birthday!
29:41Oh, you're wearing a special marquee!
29:43I am!
29:45Some people celebrate Christmas in June.
29:47Heather celebrates her birthday whenever the f*** she wants.
29:50Travis was really sad.
29:52I know.
29:53Someone's got to be home.
29:54I so appreciate it, and I love Travis.
29:56Yeah.
29:57But I totally get it.
29:58Ryan's coming, right?
29:59Jen and Ryan are coming.
30:00By the way, I found out he had knee surgery recently,
30:03and I'm thinking maybe he's convalescing.
30:06Maybe he doesn't want to come.
30:09Gosh.
30:10Wow, this is pretty crazy.
30:11I mean, maybe we should get married.
30:13Let's see who's on the guest list.
30:15Uh-huh.
30:16I'm so sorry that we have to walk this far.
30:18That's all right.
30:19I wish there was an elevator for you.
30:21Oh, I think there is an elevator.
30:23Is Tamar coming?
30:24I don't know.
30:25You don't know?
30:26I don't know.
30:27Thank you!
30:28Thank you so much!
30:29What an entrance!
30:30Cheers!
30:31Cheers!
30:32This looks like a castle.
30:33It's super gaudy.
30:35That is so fun.
30:36This is amazing.
30:37Hey, Damon!
30:38Oh my god, this is insane.
30:39Thank you, welcome.
30:40There's a shot situation.
30:41gaudy that is so fun oh this is amazing oh my god this is insane welcome there's a shot situation
30:54they're like i'm in vegas yeah it's like a vegas party
31:04yeah it looks like it yeah it does what are the odds on this party ryan exactly what are the odds katie
31:13gets violated i want to make some bets on that wow there she comes hello do you want to move well
31:28what are we supposed to do i'm not going to avoid her no don't avoid her yeah don't avoid
31:31she could stay away she here yeah she's sitting there
31:35coming up the fact that you're sitting here trying to define yourself
31:43no you didn't you are the most evil evil person i have ever met
31:56you want a caviar gum i do oh you snored it
32:00cheers drive-by caviar is a bit much for me
32:04it's really good caviar just another day in the life of debra
32:08wow there she comes hello do you want to move well what are we supposed to do i'm not going to
32:13avoid her no don't avoid her katie she just stay away she here yeah she's sitting there
32:18how are you hi i'm heather heather hi bill and i met on the love hotel oh and he eventually got to
32:29know all the girls and he's one of our favorites this is gina i think i mean has seen you on the
32:34instagram have i yes okay at this point i have met earl i have met adam and now i'm meeting phil
32:50okay phil is not a neck up friend nor a friend with benefits he is a friend i just meet one and then i
32:58meet a new one and then there's another one it's very entertaining for me drink the tequila and you
33:02make a wish and then you take your shot at the car go ahead wait the glass oh my god it's nice
33:08yeah nice okay i'm gonna drop it yeah let's go
33:11come on jannon
33:14oh my god i didn't do it you need another here do the mocktail for the second
33:20i like how we just walk around like oh this must be the light here look what is is that the bathroom
33:40wait i'm doing stand-up later oh my god where the are we this venue used to be like a massive
33:48christian television network compound and it is giving off all of those particular vibes
33:58here's the bathroom but it also it feels like weird cult
34:03this is so nice it's cool right yeah so there is a marijuana bar right there
34:14but they'll roll you a whole thing oh wow oh where'd it go it's empty terry there's nothing in it
34:22oh how are you feeling being here
34:25um hi i'm glad that i'm here at heather's birthday i never thought i would be at heather's birthday
34:33but seeing shannon makes me sad i'm like i'm sad
34:37yes that yeah i just don't feel in about katie recorded me at the gallery shoot that's not dull
34:44yeah no i know so you're good with tamra no i'm actually really hurt by her after going to her
34:51house falling on the sword apologizing then she ran and told gina and emily about the recording
34:56she again is stabbing me and every time something in this group has come up about me
35:01she's been the one to spread the information i don't even know if she's coming i'm surprised
35:05she's not here yet i don't i don't know if she will so is tamra coming i don't know
35:10looking i don't know do you know i you didn't talk to her today actually i have no idea and
35:16if she does i got to stay away
35:18my wife emily no i've had sleep many times we go way back how are you by the way our testosterone
35:32we should go together we should we're talking about our our testosterone and our sex drive
35:38yeah on the testosterone i broke his penis for real after you got after not before no honestly
35:44it's like a real medical thing like i actually broke it like it like it like it broke it went
35:51like this when it breaks it causes scar tissue on one side of the shaft and so now when he
35:58gets hard it bends because this isn't getting hard this section and i make the joke that he's
36:04like captain hook were you on top yes oh see that's the only way it would break not from behind
36:10came down a little too hard yeah yeah this is beautiful thank you thank you for inviting
36:14me yeah of course thanks for coming have you seen shannon no i sent her a text i was apologizing
36:22i know she showed it to me oh she did maybe you guys don't have a chance to talk tonight
36:26why is heather chit chatting with katie like nothing happens are you kidding me i don't know
36:33by the way i have to talk about it i have to mingle a little but you should get yeah you should get
36:37pictures with your significant others shannon's here i know i really want you to fix this i need
36:45to ask her to chat okay this is all fattening no this is not see you're eating sushi yeah i'm going
36:53i'm going in i'll take this do you want to sit down let me sit at that table i do not want to sit
36:59over there no but i don't want that to get loud like i don't want to lay around me maybe take shannon
37:04and only shannon yeah where is she you don't want to rekindle a friendship no no i'm not interested
37:11she's over there why don't i go distract phil all right let's go come on okay
37:16where did you get sushi i'm katie great to meet you nice to meet you great to meet you can i take
37:24you over this way for a second no then i talk to you for a minute sure come have a seat they need
37:29to have a talk oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god what's shannon came here talking i am very
37:36very very very very very sorry i did not mean to hurt you in any way i have no excuse katie and
37:44shannon are talking oh they are i mean i'm hoping that it's not going to be bad oh it's going to be
37:49bad it's going to be bad you know katie you sent me a text i did i was leaving giving context no you
37:55were giving me excuses and that is not an apology what you did is illegal
38:06because i expected my privacy okay that day where you videotaped me and i was upset i don't know what
38:31it was about it's none of your business what it was about you came in it was on speakerphone and
38:39that's why no i went outside no it was it was at your station and it was on speakerphone where me
38:45and jen were sitting do you think she'll be able to get past or no no no no would you be able to get
38:51past it that's a tough one you had just showed up and is that your business no but you made it my
38:58business when it was on speakerphone and i was on a zoom call with a potential and walk outside
39:04you're on an important business call but hmm you hung up on that business call to record me
39:12so it wasn't that important the fact that you're sitting here trying to define yourself
39:18it's your party so i just want to bring to your attention that shannon and katie have a thing
39:27going over there i didn't know if you wanted to like a bad thing i don't know if you want to
39:31intervene or no i don't know i think we should record this conversation oh we should record it
39:36oh good idea we should record it play it later nothing you say ends up ever i've gone to the
39:47bottom of the barrel with these women in this group yeah never once has anyone recorded me behind my
39:55back do you know who it went to shannon my husband alexis never heard it shannon i called alexis
40:02she said we're at lunch she played it for me oh my god you did katie i i worry about your mental
40:12state i really do i'm just letting you know my mental state i'm calmly talking to you and you're
40:18the one screaming and yelling so i feel like my mental state is okay comparatively you were the person
40:24that sat right next to me in sonoma when i found out that there were alleged videos of me the night
40:33of the dui she said he has ring cameras that have videos jesus is he like trying to take me down
40:41and you decided knowing all i had been through to video record me i did do that katie
40:50no apology will ever measure up to how much you violated me because i put you now in the category
40:59of john jansen how dare you record so i sued you for 75 000 that you recorded me and so did john
41:10i went to hell last year but what you was happening to you from john and alexis was not my fault
41:20you are in their category no i'm not it's been going on for a minute are you going over there
41:25meaning we both i thought maybe you just go
41:28no because you're talking over me do you think shannon needs my help no i think shannon's gonna
41:36leave i feel like she's on the verge of a shannon out let me make this clear go ahead katie
41:42janella i will never ever speak to you again you are the most evil evil person i have ever met
41:53okay she's trying to defend herself no it's insanity what's going on you are delusional
42:01i am not going to let you rile me up i'll let the ladies handle it this girl worse than alexis
42:08molino worse than tamra judge that's bad we're done
42:13okay all right she left her grilled cheese
42:18next time on the real housewives of orange county isn't this nice uh only you can make this happen
42:29oh wow you're gonna walk in with her that's really good behavior if gretchen's threatened that's her
42:35problem give me my popcorn i heard you were asking kiki monique to put out stories who did you hear
42:42this from tamra you are don't call me you're sick you know what i'm not putting up with this
42:48you tell all your friends you have so many
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