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#trump #epsteinfiles #epsteincase Stacey Williams, a former Sports Illustrated model who briefly dated Jeffrey Epstein speaks with CNN’s Brianna Keilar and describes Epstein’s relationship with Donald Trump. She also alleges Trump once groped her in 1993, but he denies the claim.
00:00They were best friends. You know, I dated Jeffrey for a period of more or less, I think about four or five months.
00:09And the only friend that he would mention every time we saw each other or had a phone conversation was Donald.
00:17And he would share a lot of anecdotes. I have plenty of anecdotes.
00:22And yeah, they were they were very close and they were up to no good.
00:26And how did Epstein talk about Trump? Sort of what was what was the quality of those anecdotes and how he described him?
00:37Well, I he there was a time when he mentioned he had to check in on him because he was unwell and very upset about something that had happened.
00:51I remember because he was late to pick me up and he was explaining why he was late.
00:56They were just, you know, it was such a long time ago, but it was just part of that was his that was his bro.
01:01That was his wingman. It was clearly I'd hear about Gilan and I'd hear about Jeffrey and I met Gilan in his house.
01:08She would come wafting in and out the home in New York.
01:12So he was clearly just someone that he talked about all the time.
01:16And again, you know, I really I met Jeffrey the second time and we started dating based on the introduction, the reintroduction that happened at the Plaza Hotel at a Christmas party in 1992 that Donald Trump threw.
01:32They were they were very, very close.
01:34So let's talk about this incident, alleged incident in 1993, where you say that Trump groped you in front of Epstein.
01:44I do want to note that CNN has spoken to three friends of yours who confirmed that you told them about this alleged incident over past decades.
01:52Can you tell me more about what happened that day and particularly how Trump and Epstein interacted?
01:57Yeah, before I get into the details of what happened, which, you know, obviously I told you guys and I've shared with multiple outlets the specifics of the assault that happened.
02:07I want to point out that I was polygraphed before I did all this by one of the most renowned examiners in the world.
02:16Michael Wolff has hundreds of hours of interviews with Jeffrey Epstein, where Jeffrey confirmed to Michael what the two of them did to me long before I came out and told you all of this.
02:33So those are two critical data points that you need to have.
02:37And now I'll walk you through what happened.
02:38I was dating Jeffrey.
02:40He was always talking about Donald.
02:42It was his bestie and everything.
02:43And he was joking about how Donald thought I was hot and Donald thinks I'm this or whatever, you know, wants to talk to you.
02:50And he was telling me this as we were taking a walk down Fifth Avenue one day.
02:53And he said, let's stop in and see him at his offices.
02:56So we went up to his office in Trump Tower.
03:01And within a couple of minutes, Jeffrey or Donald was outside of his door and his hands were all over me.
03:10They were on my breasts, they were on my butt, they were on, you know, my hips, up and down, while the two of them just kept having a normal conversation.
03:19I don't remember exactly what was in the conversation.
03:22Again, this was, you know, we're talking 90, this is 93 now.
03:25It was something about, it was irrelevant.
03:28It was like, oh, Stacey's career is on fire.
03:30She just did Sports Illustrated again, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
03:33And they were back and forth smiling and grinning and carrying on a conversation while Donald ran his hands all over me.
03:44And, you know, when that happens in broad daylight in someone's office and an assistant's walking back and forth, you're in shock.
03:52If it happens in a dark alleyway, right, you defend yourself.
03:55But when it's hidden in its brazenness like that, which is Donald Trump's forte, you know, you go into shock.
04:04So I froze and it was over very quickly.
04:10It was a few minutes.
04:11And then we got back in the elevator and Jeffrey's energy had changed.
04:16He was, he was like seething.
04:18He was enraged.
04:19He wouldn't make eye contact with me.
04:21And then we got out on the, we got out on the street on Fifth Avenue and he looked at me and he just started yelling at me saying, why did you let him do that?
04:28And he was so enraged.
04:30And then I remember thinking like, why did I?
04:32I felt like I was coming back into my body at that moment and I was confused.
04:38So that's, that's the story of, of the assault.
04:42And I do just want to note, Stacey, that Trump has denied these allegations, which you are well aware of.
04:49And I know at times you've referenced videos, which we have not confirmed the existence of, but I know that you felt that this was coordinated later when you look back on it.
04:58What was it that made you draw that conclusion?
05:00Well, I had, I was sort of known in the industry for being somewhat combative with, um, you know, photographers who would expose themselves or do inappropriate things or even guys who would touch or harass on the streets.
05:18And, um, Jeffrey was aware of that and I think he was excited.
05:25I think the gist in my mind, given what he knew and the way it played out was, Hey, I, you know, I'm going to deliver this person to you.
05:33Who's actually not going to let you get away with what you do.
05:36And I did cause I froze.
05:39Um, like I said, when it's hidden in its brazenness like that, you freeze.
05:42And, um, you know, he's a master of that.
05:45So, I mean, he talked about it, right?
05:47He talked about pussy grabbing on, on the access Hollywood tape.
05:52And, and tonight, I, I, if you're aware, president Trump has filed this libel lawsuit against the wall street journal over its reporting that there was this note bearing Trump's name, uh, as a signature, uh, and an outline of a naked woman that was included in a 50th birthday album for Epstein in 2003.
06:10A note that also depicted an imaginary conversation between the two men and part of it reads quote, uh, Donald saying we have certain things in common, Jeffrey, Jeffrey.
06:20Yes, we do come to think of it.
06:22Donald enigmas never age.
06:24Have you noticed that Jeffrey is a matter of fact.
06:26It was clear to me that last, the last time I saw you.
06:29And then finally, Donald, a pal is a wonderful thing.
06:32Happy birthday.
06:33And may every day be another wonderful secret.
06:36Trump called that letter fake.
06:38He said it was out of character for him because he never wrote a picture or drew a picture in his life.
06:43Wrote a picture.
06:44I think he said, it's not his kind of language.
06:46Um, based on your time with both men, does that sound out of character to you?
06:51What are you kidding me?
06:52Uh, I know what they were up to together.
06:54It happened to me.
06:56I was polygraphed.
06:57I have the post assault, uh, postcard with a love note.
07:01So I have the receipts.
07:03Where are Donald Trump's receipts?
07:04Where are they?
07:05I know what they're up together and I know what that means.
07:08It's very clear.
07:09It wasn't baking or fishing.
07:13Well, Stacey Williams, um, I really appreciate you taking the time to speak with us tonight.
07:17Thank you so much.
07:19Jeffrey Epstein's ex-girlfriend speaking out tonight.
07:24Stacey Williams, a former Sports Illustrated model who dated Epstein in the early 90s,
07:28has spent time with both Epstein and Donald Trump together.
07:32In one disturbing alleged incident, which Williams went public with last year
07:37before the presidential election,
07:39Williams says Trump groped her in front of Epstein at Trump Tower in 1993.
07:44Here's what she told our son, Len Serfati, when she first broke her silence.
07:49The second he was in front of me, he pulled me into him and his hands were just on me and didn't come off.
07:59Then the hands started moving and they were on the, you know, on the side of my breasts,
08:04on my hips, back down to my butt, back up, sort of then, you know, they were just on me the whole time.
08:10And I, uh, sorry, I froze.
08:18Williams also claimed that Epstein and Trump looked at each other and smiled during the alleged incident,
08:26which Williams says she now believes was coordinated and, quote, some kind of weird, twisted game.
08:32Trump denied Williams' allegations through his campaign at the time, which said in part, quote,
08:37it's obvious this fake story was contrived by Kamala Harris' campaign.
08:41And Stacey Williams is out front now to speak out for the first time since the uproar over Trump's handling of the Epstein case.
08:49Stacey, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
08:52As you know, Epstein is dominating the news once again and his relationship with Trump is under scrutiny.
08:58While you were dating Epstein, can you tell us how close these two men were?
09:02They were best friends.
09:05You know, I dated Jeffrey for a period of more or less, I think about four or five months.
09:12And the only friend that he would mention every time we saw each other or had a phone conversation was Donald.
09:20And he would share a lot of anecdotes.
09:23I have plenty of anecdotes.
09:26And, yeah, they were they were very close and they were up to no good.
09:30And how did Epstein talk about Trump?
09:33Sort of what was what was the quality of those anecdotes and how he described him?
09:41Well, I he there was a time when he mentioned he had to check in on him because he was unwell and very upset about something that had happened.
09:53I remember because he was late to pick me up and he was explaining why he was late.
10:00They were just, you know, it was such a long time ago, but it was just part of that was his that was his bro.
10:05That was his wingman.
10:06It was clearly I'd hear about Gilan and I'd hear about Jeffrey and I met Gilan in his house.
10:11She would come wafting in and out the home in New York.
10:16So he was clearly just someone that he talked about all the time.
10:20And again, you know, I really I met Jeffrey the second time when we started dating based on the introduction, the reintroduction that happened at the Plaza Hotel at a Christmas party in 1992 that Donald Trump threw.
10:36They were they were very, very close.
10:38So let's talk about this incident, alleged incident in 1993, where you say that Trump groped you in front of Epstein.
10:48I do want to note that CNN has spoken to three friends of yours who confirmed that you told them about this alleged incident over past decades.
10:56Can you tell me more about what happened that day and particularly how Trump and Epstein interacted?
11:02Yeah.
11:02Before I get into the details of what happened, which, you know, obviously I told you guys and I've shared with multiple outlets,
11:07the specifics of the specifics of the assault that happened.
11:10I want to point out that I was polygraphed before I did all this by one of the most renowned examiners in the world.
11:23Michael Wolff has hundreds of hours of interviews with Jeffrey Epstein where Jeffrey confirmed to Michael what the two of them did to me long before I came out and told you all of this.
11:36So those are two critical data points that you need to have.
11:41And now I'll walk you through what happened.
11:42I was dating Jeffrey.
11:44He was always talking about Donald.
11:45It was his bestie and everything.
11:47And he was joking about how Donald thought I was hot and Donald thinks I'm this or whatever, you know, once once to talk to you.
11:54And he was telling me this as we were taking a walk down Fifth Avenue one day.
11:57And he said, let's stop in and see him at his offices.
12:00So we went up to his office in Trump Tower and within a couple of minutes, Jeffrey or Donald was outside of his door and his hands were all over me.
12:14They were on my breasts.
12:15They were on my butt.
12:16They were on, you know, my hips up and down while the two of them just kept having a normal conversation.
12:22I don't remember exactly what was in the conversation.
12:25Again, this was, you know, we're talking 90.
12:27This is 93 now.
12:29It was something about it was irrelevant.
12:32It was like, oh, Stacey's career is on fire.
12:34She just did Sports Illustrated again.
12:35You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
12:37And they were back and forth smiling and grinning and carrying on a conversation while Donald ran his hands all over me.
12:48And, you know, when that happens in broad daylight in someone's office and an assistant's walking back and forth, you're in shock.
12:56If it happens in a dark alleyway, right, you defend yourself.
12:58But when it's hidden in its brazenness like that, which is Donald Trump's forte, you know, you go into shock.
13:08So I froze and it was over very quickly.
13:13It was a few minutes.
13:15And then we got back in the elevator and Jeffrey's energy had changed.
13:20He was he was like seething.
13:22He was enraged.
13:23He wouldn't make eye contact with me.
13:25And then we got out on this.
13:26We got out on the street on Fifth Avenue and he looked at me and he just started yelling at me, saying, why did you let him do that?
13:32And he was so enraged.
13:33And then I remember thinking, like, why did I?
13:36I felt like I was coming back into my body at that moment and I was confused.
13:42So that's that's the story of the assault.
13:46And I do just want to note, Stacey, that Trump has denied these allegations, which you are well aware of.
13:52And I know at times you've referenced videos, which we have not confirmed the existence of.
13:58But I know that you felt that this was coordinated later when you look back on it.
14:02What was it that made you draw that conclusion?
14:04Well, I had I was sort of known in the industry for being somewhat combative with, you know, photographers who would expose themselves or do inappropriate things or even guys who would touch or harass on the streets.
14:22And Jeffrey was aware of that.
14:26And I think he was excited.
14:29I think the gist in my mind, given what he knew and the way it played out was, hey, you know, I'm going to deliver this person to you who's actually not going to let you get away with what you do.
14:40And I did because I froze.
14:41Like I said, when it's hidden in its brazenness like that, you freeze.
14:46And, you know, he's a master of that.
14:49So, I mean, he talked about it, right?
14:51He talked about pussy grabbing on on the Access Hollywood tape.
14:54And tonight, if you're aware, President Trump has filed this libel lawsuit against The Wall Street Journal over its reporting that there was this note bearing Trump's name as a signature and an outline of a naked woman that was included in a 50th birthday album for Epstein in 2003.
15:14A note that also depicted an imaginary conversation between the two men.
15:19And part of it reads, quote, Donald saying, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
15:23Jeffrey, yes, we do.
15:25Come to think of it, Donald.
15:26Enigmas never age.
15:27Have you noticed that?
15:28Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me that last the last time I saw you.
