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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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05:44Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantasy, et c'est ce que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:52J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le monde réel
05:56et d'être plus excitée de se passer dans l'espace theatrical,
06:02l'espace d'un-réalité, comme un stage.
06:06Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir et changer leurs films,
06:16je suis sûre qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:35J'ai besoin de faire quelque chose.
06:39C'est l'autre part.
07:02It's hard to explain
07:07They're talking about you, boy
07:13But you're still the same
07:17Oh, absolutely.
07:19I mean, I'm starting from the beginning
07:21with doing everything in 4K
07:23and I'm doing all the restorations myself.
07:25So I'm doing, it's all coming from me
07:27and you can buy them directly from me
07:30at bynwr.com
07:32I'll sign your box set
07:34and send it off to you.
07:37I am, yeah, I'm a huge fan of 4K
07:40Like, I love 4K
07:42I think 4K is like, oh, amazing
07:45because so many films can be rewatched
07:49with even better quality
07:50and who doesn't want that, you know
07:53So it's kind of like a new layer of
07:56the new normal for me
07:58so I decided to do all my films in 4K
08:01slowly rolling them out, you know
08:03I think cinema and television for that matter
08:10has had a very tough time
08:12in the last 10 years or so
08:1410, 15 years
08:15Gaming, social media, VR
08:18canvases are exploding
08:20and they're constantly evolving
08:22because technology is allowing them to evolve
08:24Movies and television
08:26TV is becoming more and more
08:28just content
08:30that you almost look at
08:31while you're doing other things
08:33and movies are still
08:35that window of exclusivity
08:37of the collective experience
08:39but I think that movies
08:41also needs
08:42to re-evaluate themselves
08:44I remember when we were in Cannes
08:46for Only God Forgives
08:47and I, after everyone
08:49had been booing me for so long
08:51that during my stay
08:53I did say
08:55look, you can be angry with me
08:57and about my film
08:58but I am from the future
09:01and I'm going to make something
09:02that's going to predict
09:03what it's going to be like
09:05if you want to make films
09:06in the future
09:07and I was right
09:09because right after
09:10Only God Forgives
09:11the industry changed
09:12because of Netflix
09:13Netflix was the game changer
09:15and it changed
09:17not so much what we're making
09:18but it's how we experienced
09:20film and content
09:22essentially
09:23how we viewed it
09:24and I think that to
09:25justify or for a movie
09:27to exist in longevity
09:29you have to see
09:31what a film can become
09:33rather than what it used to be
09:34Violence is like sex
09:38it's all about the build-up
09:40Bang, bang
09:41and then it's to the other wall
09:43now make it dirty
09:44unique, interesting
09:45never seen before in violence
09:46I'm not that strategic
09:52but I will say that
09:54everything is an evolution
09:56of something
09:57and there can be a tendency
10:00when something is liked
10:03that everyone wants the same same
10:07but I don't necessarily think
10:09that's true
10:09it's better to give them
10:11something else
10:12or something different
10:13or something that
10:14destroys your past
10:16in order to make
10:17something new
10:19to transition
10:20you know
10:20obviously the two films
10:22are very different
10:23but what ties them
10:24is
10:25myself
10:26and Ryan's
10:27interaction
10:28however
10:29I find that interesting
10:30it's like taking something
10:32and turning it on its head
10:34it's taking the ultimate
10:35superhero
10:36in one movie
10:37and emasculating him
10:39in the next
10:39it's taking one movie
10:41that's very poppy
10:42and another movie
10:43that's very esoteric
10:45and that I think
10:47is what makes
10:49the world interesting
10:50is that things
10:51can become
10:51different
10:52it can evolve
10:53into other components
10:55rather than just
10:56always staying
10:57in the same
10:58repeat lane
10:59because you very quickly
11:01run out of steam
11:02in my opinion
11:03I was
11:03I was very happy
11:05but obviously
11:06you know
11:07a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and a lot of booing
11:11and screaming
11:12but then I was like
11:13that's kind of cool
11:15because then you like
11:16the sex pistols
11:17of cinema
11:18you know
11:18you're like
11:19the one everyone
11:20throws bottles at
11:21but you can't
11:22deny it existence
11:23you can't really
11:24criticize it
11:25because
11:26I did it my way
11:27the world will see it
11:29as it continues
11:30to evolve
11:31and you just have to be
11:33you have to just
11:34to be
11:34trust yourself
11:35so you never lose
11:36your vision
11:36when you have
11:37that strong reaction
11:38no on the contrary
11:39you're like
11:40it's like energy
11:41it's like
11:42just wait for the next one
11:43I love that
11:44I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets
11:47about only God forgives
11:48I think it's a masterpiece
11:49and it is
11:49I just didn't make it
11:51very expensive
11:52is there a doctor
11:53in the house
11:54we need to get
11:56a medic in here
11:57is there a doctor
11:59around
11:59when you were mentioning
12:012001
12:02citizen Kane
12:03you forgot to add drive
12:04we'll let that slip
12:06we won't know about drive
12:08for another 30 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10whether it lives
12:12or dies
12:12I'm talking about films
12:132001 was made
12:16in 1968
12:17I made this film
12:19about 4 years ago
12:20so it's about
12:204 years is a zip
12:21it's not even a blip
12:23it's not a pimple
12:25on the asshole
12:27of humanity
12:28what was funny
12:29about talking
12:30to Billy Freakin
12:30was that it was
12:31he had a man
12:33who had struggled
12:34a lot
12:34in Hollywood
12:35and started
12:38very successfully
12:39at a young age
12:40and then
12:42gone into
12:42Sorceress
12:43and you know
12:45was still traumatized
12:47by that experience
12:48after so many years
12:49and I think
12:50that was what
12:51was so sad
12:51in a way
12:52that it had
12:53such an effect
12:54on him
12:54it's a little bit
12:55like Michael Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate
12:57these amazing films
12:59both Sorceress
13:01and Heaven's Gate
13:02are probably
13:03their best films
13:04for some reason
13:05get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose
13:09sight of themselves
13:10or they lose
13:11their confidence
13:12and it affects
13:12all the other movies
13:14they make afterwards
13:14and I was like
13:16I'm never going to be
13:17like that
13:17because I'm right
13:19you're wrong
13:19I mean I've
13:24done two shows
13:26one with Amazon
13:27one with Netflix
13:27and I like
13:29what I was making
13:30obviously
13:30but I
13:31I don't know
13:32how
13:32how
13:34much I want
13:35to continue
13:36I may want
13:37to take a break
13:38and
13:38go and make
13:40movies again
13:41I've decided
13:42to do more
13:42visual arts
13:44you know
13:45and trying
13:46to find other
13:48areas of creativity
13:50but I think
13:51it's time
13:52to go make
13:53a film again
13:53you said
13:54you work on
13:54two shows
13:55but you work on
13:55The Famous Five
13:56or something
13:57The Famous Five
13:58was a television show
14:00that I
14:00I just
14:01how do you say
14:02executive produced
14:03or created
14:04but I had no
14:05involvement in it
14:06otherwise
14:07I just created
14:08the kind of
14:08concept and the story
14:10based on these
14:11very famous books
14:12The Famous Five
14:13was more because
14:13my kids would read
14:14the books
14:15when they were
14:16young
14:16I remember
14:17my mother
14:17reading me
14:18the books
14:18so it was
14:19more like
14:19a past
14:21history thing
14:21that came up
14:22as an opportunity
14:23Well I mean
14:28if anything
14:28if something
14:29is interesting
14:29you know
14:30why not
14:30look at it
14:31I've had
14:31some wonderful
14:32meetings in Hollywood
14:33met wonderful
14:34people
14:35but in the end
14:36I like my freedom
14:37that's all I really
14:39want
14:39is just to be free
14:40when you work
14:41in Hollywood
14:42there is a
14:43contract
14:44some people
14:45love that
14:45and can work
14:46within that
14:47it's maybe not
14:49so much my thing
14:50right now
14:51but who knows
14:51maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big
14:53you know
14:55big superhero movie
14:56that could be fun
14:59maybe
14:59I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open
15:01to anything
15:01but at the same time
15:02at the end
15:03you should just
15:04make what makes
15:05you happy
15:05it's one thing
15:06it's one thing
15:06having creative
15:07control
15:08which is
15:08easier enough
15:10but it's
15:11where all the
15:12money that's
15:12invested
15:13puts a burden
15:15on you
15:15because all that
15:16money has to
15:17get recouped
15:19and then you have
15:19to make a certain
15:20type of movie
15:21you don't have
15:22the freedom
15:22to do whatever
15:23you want
15:23because you're
15:24a slave
15:25to the economics
15:26if your film
15:27costs 200 million
15:29dollars
15:29or 100 million
15:30dollars
15:30you need to make
15:31300-400 million
15:32dollars to break even
15:33that already
15:34puts a strain
15:34on what kind
15:35of movie
15:35can you make
15:36and I don't
15:37want any
15:38conditions
15:39on me
15:39at all
15:41you have to
15:42be completely
15:43free
15:43I mean
15:48in the beginning
15:49a lot of people
15:49were talking
15:50about another
15:51drive
15:51but it was
15:52like
15:52that would be
15:53the worst
15:54idea I've ever
15:55heard of
15:55so never
15:56never
15:57I've been
16:06very lucky
16:07to live
16:07a fun life
16:09and
16:10it has
16:12nothing to do
16:13with fame
16:13you realize
16:15very quickly
16:16it has
16:17that I've
16:18had opportunities
16:19and I've been
16:20able to work
16:20with people
16:21I've met
16:22people
16:23I've spoken
16:24with people
16:24and it's all
16:26been a lot
16:27of fun
16:27but I think
16:28when I started
16:29the idea
16:31of being seen
16:32was very essential
16:33the idea
16:34of fame
16:34and fame
16:35being
16:36it's like
16:37an opportunity
16:38it's like
16:38a stage
16:39one thing
16:40is becoming
16:40famous
16:41the next
16:42what are you
16:42going to do
16:42with it
16:43and obviously
16:44it's like
16:44anything
16:45it's an opportunity
16:46I've got
16:59the next film
17:02and I have
17:03told you
17:03to film
17:04the process
17:04it's nice
17:06that we
17:07are
17:07together
17:08when he
17:09filming
17:09the
17:09last
17:10when he did
17:11drive
17:11I was
17:11home
17:12with children
17:13and that
17:14came over
17:1410 months
17:15Et ce n'était pas trop difficile pour eux-mêmes.
17:45et le prochain jour c'est le mois d'août.
17:47Tu regardes des films ?
17:49J'ai regardé beaucoup de films quand j'étais plus jeune,
17:52mais maintenant c'est plus difficile et plus.
17:54Il y a d'autres choses que je trouve intéressantes.
17:56Comme quoi ?
17:57J'ai fait ma première exposition qui s'ouvre à Tokyo,
18:02et ça a été beaucoup de plaisir.
18:04Une collaboration avec Hideo Kojima ?
18:06Oui.
18:07Pouvez-vous parler de ça ?
18:08J'ai créé une exposition qui s'ouvre la semaine dernière,
18:15à Tokyo, où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma femme et ma fille dans la procession.
18:23Hé, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:33Wait !
18:38Don't leave without me !
18:41No !
18:43Don't go !
18:45Please !
18:46Don't go !
18:48Et vous êtes dans le monde de Death Stranding aussi ?
18:50Je suis Heart Man,
18:52et Heart Man est toujours dans le monde de Death Stranding.
19:00Je pense qu'on ne croit pas tout ce que tu lis sur le Internet.
19:03Ok.
19:04Tu peux nous dire quelque chose ?
19:05Je crois tout ce que tu lis sur le Internet.
19:07Ah ok !