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00:00When I come up with ideas, you'll just start from a very primal,
00:08I just want to see this cute thing on screen.
00:11And then I'll find the meaning and the metaphor and the themes
00:14to justify why it should be that.
00:17But really, it just came from a place of like, ah, they're so cute.
00:21And wouldn't it be awesome if they were gigantic?
00:25I'm excited.
00:26And then the girl is like the older one, right?
00:33I didn't realize they'd be so small.
00:35Real red pandas are really cute.
00:38And I think that's the main reason why I was drawn to making a story about them.
00:42It's got kind of a belly sometimes.
00:44They're very tubular, and they have very long, fluffy tails, more pointed snouts.
00:50The tail's about 18 inches.
00:52Oh.
00:54They feel a little cat-like, kind of raccoon, kind of bear, maybe a little splash of monkey or something.
01:03Look at it.
01:04Oh.
01:05They're totally solitary.
01:07They don't really communicate with one another.
01:09They're kind of like, you know, teenagers.
01:11I like the long tooth.
01:12Oh, that one's like an old one.
01:13I found a lot of, like, parallels between red pandas and Mei and her story.
01:18Like, red pandas are very attached to their moms.
01:21They sleep all day.
01:22They eat bamboo, but they're not supposed to eat bamboo.
01:25Like, bamboo doesn't give them enough nutrients.
01:28Like, kind of imagine it's just like a lazy teenager just eating chips and sleeping all day.
01:33They're native to China.
01:35Oh.
01:36And also, it's like red and white, like Chinese, but also like the colors of the Canadian flag, too.
01:43So, it felt like the perfect animal to tell this story about this Chinese Canadian teenage girl.
01:49I'm Mei Lin Lee, and ever since I turned 13, I've been doing my own thing.
01:55Making my own moves.
01:5624-7, 365.
01:59Turning Red is about Mei, a Chinese Canadian girl living in Toronto in 2002.
02:06It's very specific.
02:07It's a mother-daughter story.
02:09At its most base level, this film is about growing up and figuring out who you are and embracing that.
02:16Mei Lin, coming.
02:18Everything changes for Mei when she wakes up one morning and discovers she's a giant eight-foot-tall furry red panda.
02:29And she realizes, oh, like, I can control this transformation.
02:36If I just stay completely calm and even for the rest of my life, I will stay human and it'll be a-okay.
02:44But that's not how life works.
02:48So, the red panda is basically a metaphor for magical puberty.
03:02Just seeing how this girl who thought she had everything under control, suddenly big and hairy and smelly, an emotional wreck.
03:13This panda is incredibly cute.
03:17It's also true to that time in a girl's life.
03:20In some ways, it's the worst time.
03:22You're not a kid and you're not an adult.
03:25This poor girl, she's looking in a mirror and seeing that she's got hair everywhere and she stinks and she's big and doesn't fit through the doorway.
03:36Panda Mei is only half in control.
03:38She's having a great time, but then she's like, ah!
03:42And, like, I don't know.
03:43That feels very much like what my teenage years were like.
03:49It's bodily.
03:50It's emotional.
03:51It's all about, can I embrace this?
03:54Can I grow into it?
03:56Can I still love who I am knowing that I've become someone that I'm not used to?
04:02It's all going according to point.
04:04This is about right to add into your room.
04:06It's the first time in my career where all of the key leadership on the show are women.
04:13And I feel like that sets a very different vibe.
04:16It's completely amazing to have this all-women leadership team.
04:21I have spent the entirety of my career in meetings where I was one of very few women.
04:27Now sitting there and making plans and it's all women in the room has been this really crazy thing and very different for me.
04:34Everything's different about this film.
04:36I mean, I don't know how to answer that question without starting with Domi.
04:39She's a good girl, just like I was.
04:43I first heard of Domi through seeing one of her ten-second animation clips.
04:49I was in college and it was something that she posted on her blog.
04:54It was this dancing, twerking hamster to a K-pop song.
05:07Who is this girl?
05:08She's probably going to be a really funny director one day.
05:14When I first started this movie, I was really determined to make something different.
05:19We're going to be spending four or five years of our life on this.
05:22Like, we gotta go big.
05:25I'm Domi Sheet, the director of R.I.P.
05:27And ever since we started making this movie, we've been breaking convention and making people laugh 24-7, 365.
05:35Uh, legally, it's 9 to 5, 261.
05:40Woo!
05:41On this show, we wear what we want, say what we want, and we will not hesitate to do spontaneous cartwheels if we feel so moved.
05:48Domi is a force of nature.
05:50She's a first-time feature director.
05:53It's been a while since I've worked with a first-time director before, and I'm loving it.
05:57Change conclusions!
05:58Welcome to R.I.P.
06:00Pitch!
06:01Woo!
06:06Pitch.
06:08Did that actually change anything?
06:09Yes, it did.
06:10So, welcome, everyone.
06:12Just ignore the camera, everyone.
06:15It's not there.
06:16Don't look right here.
06:19Making the film, it's just been like a long marathon, but in the first couple of years, it was mostly me and Julia, our screenwriter, and the head of story, Rosie Sullivan, the story team, and then Nick, our editor, and we were just working on the reels.
06:37Yeah, it feels like you're part of a pirate ship, because you're all kind of just working and sweating for, like, these drawings, and you're all aiming to make the director react or respond.
06:52I started working with her, and pretty quickly, I felt like this woman is really impressive, also incredibly clear in her vision.
07:07And then, ta-da, and, like, imagine it to look like a comic book background.
07:12Thank you, Margaret.
07:13Great work.
07:14So fun.
07:15She is so unique in how she thinks about movies, how she communicates her vision, her humor, her tone.
07:23Can I get this in front of you, seeing if it lives within our world?
07:26Yes.
07:27This is what you're looking for?
07:28Yes, sorry.
07:30I feel like I have to be more of a director now with a camera.
07:34The crew slowly grew bigger and bigger.
07:37To give you a general sense of the BG buildings.
07:40This reminds me of Toronto a lot, like, a lot of these old buildings.
07:44And then, like, last year, it just exploded.
07:48And that was during the pandemic.
07:51It just so happens that, like, the busiest time on the show was when we were all working from home.
07:57Hi, Frankie.
07:58Hi, Bubba.
08:01It may not be obvious, I don't know, but making films is a huge kind of team effort.
08:05And so, the more you can collaborate with the people around you, the better the movie's gonna be.
08:11As we were kind of leaving to walk out the door for getting sent home, Domi said, well, maybe I could do, like, a coffee time or something just so we can keep in touch with the crew.
08:24And we all went, oh, what a great idea.
08:26And in the beginning, it really was kind of this awesome thing of just being able to see more than, like, three people in your life.
08:33Thank you.
08:34And also getting to hear from the director weekly is pretty cool.
08:36May's struggle throughout act two.
08:39Even if sometimes it's just, like, a little update, it felt like some kind of connection.
08:44We are starting with a couple nominations from our Dailies team.
08:50I've been really surprised because we routinely get a hundred and something people coming to it.
08:57Oh, thank you!
09:02Exceptionally bad and so out of key, but I really love it.
09:07Here's to a better 2021.
09:10We're coming together in some of the best way you can do during pandemic with a giant movie crew, so it's been pretty cool.
09:16My job is visual effects supervisor on the film.
09:29First woman in 20 years at Pixar to have that job.
09:32For almost 15 years, I was a lighting DP, and so most of my career at Pixar has been about lighting.
09:38Thinking about how to make the most beautiful movie possible.
09:41How to make a great experience for the lighting team.
09:44Maybe a little bit of this down here, even though that would catch the light.
09:47How to engage with the director.
09:48How to coordinate with other departments, how to do groundbreaking stuff.
09:51And then now I'm in this new role overseeing heavily tech and some of the creative,
09:56and I'm now in the leadership group of running the movie.
10:01And then at the same time, I became a mother for the first time.
10:06I have twins, a boy and a girl.
10:09I don't know that I ever thought I was going to have kids.
10:14You know, there's days where it feels completely overwhelming, I would say.
10:19But I also am now a year and a half into being a mother.
10:32And I am two years into this position.
10:36I love both things dearly, and it's hard to imagine not having them now.
10:42And I got married to my amazing wife.
10:45Hello!
10:47You guys!
10:49Hi!
10:50Hi guys!
10:52No!
10:53Paige is a battalion chief for the Alameda County Fire Department.
10:57She is the highest ranking woman of that department, which I am never endingly proud about.
11:03She would not love that I'm bragging about her, but I love to brag about her.
11:06It's one of my favorite topics.
11:07Are you going to be able to jump into the end credit?
11:11We're moving it up to 2.30, I think.
11:13This is Lindsey Collins.
11:14She is the producer of Turning Red.
11:16I mean, literally.
11:17The producer is the one orchestrating this giant circus.
11:21The ringmaster?
11:22She is the ringmaster.
11:24When people are going, ah!
11:27Lindsey's like, okay, let's make a plan.
11:30Let's figure out how to make this happen.
11:32So in the race to get this done, we're probably just going to be working on top of each other,
11:36which is great.
11:37Lindsey's so smart.
11:38I think she's always, like, a million steps ahead,
11:40so that I can worry about, like, what's happening in the present.
11:44Like, I'm really good at working within boxes and limitations,
11:48and she was really good about, like, drawing them out for me to be, like, crazy and push up against.
11:54Just to draw the storyline together maybe a little bit clearer.
11:58I feel like I learned so much just by, like, watching her and working with her.
12:01I see it as the partner to the director, so that includes being a creative partner,
12:07but also managing the crew and surrounding her with all the right people.
12:11You're in every meeting.
12:13You always offer ways to move story along, and you help production through,
12:19not just by managing it, but also just from, like, an emotional, creative side as well.
12:26Thanks, Rona.
12:27I kind of like it when...
12:29This is Rona Lu.
12:30She's the production designer of Turning Red.
12:33The production designer is the first person brought on the show after the producer and director.
12:39You know, we're talking about the values being, like, super, super crunched.
12:43And that's basically because, from the very beginning, their job is to kind of figure out what the movie is gonna look like.
12:49And that is everything from characters to sets to color to tone and style.
12:54My role is to collaborate closely with the director
12:58and make sure that her vision translates throughout all of the department and onto the screen.
13:04Cool. So, welcome, everyone.
13:06Today we're gonna kick it off with Athena and the panda costume shaming.
13:11For her tail, the lighter part can take on some of that red.
13:16I know I'm providing information that other people need to get their work done.
13:21Let's tone the two sides where there's the star and the heart.
13:26I feel like that's the most important part of my job,
13:29is to just make sure that everybody else feels good about the work that they're doing.
13:34Okay.
13:35Okay.
13:36Good job, everyone. Thank you.
13:37Thank you. Bye.
13:38Thanks.
13:41Tina.
13:42Being pregnant, while we're in the crunch of things, definitely made me have to just trust my team a lot more.
13:48It's the first time in my life where I was comfortable telling my manager, Sophia,
13:54I need to take some time to nap.
13:58Hey, Rona, where are we?
14:00We're in the living room area.
14:03This is the entrance to our house.
14:05This is our kitty.
14:08This is my soon-to-be husband.
14:11We're getting a Zoom married on Friday.
14:13We've been engaged for so long,
14:15we figured now's a good time to do it.
14:18Yeah.
14:19Being able to step away, touch base with a loved one,
14:26and to say, hey, how's your day going?
14:29And just being really connected in both of our lives
14:32for the first time,
14:34that's been really comforting.
14:41I'm an only child, and my dad had to go away to work a lot,
14:45so a lot of the times it was just me and my mom.
14:49We'd go on Chinese bus tours.
14:53Like, she'd pick the locations,
14:56and she would take us to, like, Atlanta or Halifax,
15:01Prince Edward Island.
15:03Maybe not, like, up front, like, the most exciting places,
15:06but we would spend a good ton of time
15:08just together on the bus talking.
15:11It was good at first, but, you know, like, everybody,
15:14like, you grow up and you change,
15:16and you want to have your own friends and your own life,
15:18and it's kind of just about how that transition happens.
15:24I love the lighting.
15:26I love everything in this sequence.
15:28Great work, you guys.
15:32It's been a long time since I was 13,
15:34but I just remember it being, like, a lot of highs and lows.
15:38It's such a turbulent time in a person's life,
15:42especially a girl's, I think.
15:44Small things can feel super, super important,
15:47and you could, like, love something one day
15:49and hate it the other.
15:50I didn't even like Fortown last year,
15:52but now they're literally the greatest thing
15:55that's ever happened to me.
15:56This film is very personal to me in that, um,
16:00it was very much inspired by my own life growing up in Toronto,
16:04and being the only child of my overprotective mom and dad.
16:08We're about to hop onto a Zoom call with my parents,
16:14and they're going to dig through all of the artwork
16:18and things that I've ever created in my life.
16:21They've collected all of it.
16:22Yeah, everything, everything.
16:24Oh, there's my parents.
16:26Hi!
16:27Hi!
16:28Hi, Domi.
16:29Hello, yo.
16:30How's it going?
16:31Is it weird having a whole camera crew in the house?
16:34Yes.
16:35Yes, people, yes, they are around us.
16:38They live in Toronto, Canada,
16:40still in the same house that I grew up in.
16:43It pretty much looks exactly the same every time I go back.
16:46You write a letter, remember, to Santa Claus,
16:49ask for a slow.
16:51Yeah, and then you replied as Santa Claus.
16:54Dear Domi, thank you for your lovely letter.
16:57I'm very satisfied with your achievement.
17:00Why would Santa Claus ever say that?
17:03I ask you to write a story every week.
17:061998 to 2003.
17:09Look at this whole thing.
17:11She wrote a table of contents, a foreword.
17:14Can you read some of your foreword?
17:16Oh, I love it.
17:17This is a collection of Domi's writing
17:19during her grade four to six.
17:22Domi loved writing and drawing when she was young.
17:25So, my dad would be, like, my art tutor,
17:28but my mom would encourage my writing.
17:31Those are pieces.
17:32They make me so impressed.
17:35This one is your name.
17:37Oh, the Wi-Fi sucks.
17:40Your key.
17:41No, he's saying nice things about me,
17:43and I can't hear it.
17:44He's ever this generous with his praise.
17:46Come on.
17:47Oh, God.
17:50Yeah, why is this?
17:51It's so big.
17:52In the living room,
17:53there's, like, an ever-growing shrine
17:56dedicated to me.
17:58It looks like they really love me
18:00and that I'm dead or something.
18:04And this one is, you get six years old,
18:07and we get Canadian citizenship.
18:09Oh, yeah, I remember the judge.
18:10I heard you guys collected all of my sketchbooks.
18:14Let's look through them together.
18:16Pokemon.
18:17Oh, yeah, Pokemon.
18:18That's, um, that's middle school.
18:20And then high school is when I started drawing
18:22a lot of, like, beautiful people.
18:24There's boys?
18:25If there's boys, then it's close to high school.
18:27The boys.
18:28Oh, my God.
18:29Oh, this is so embarrassing.
18:32There was, like, this fan art contest that I entered
18:36where it's, like, draw Draco's children.
18:40Okay.
18:41Maybe we can look at another sketchbook.
18:45Mmm.
18:46It's heaven.
18:47Eww.
18:48May I remind you what real men look like?
18:50I don't know.
18:51There's just so much comedy in female adolescence
18:57that I don't see a lot of.
19:00I just can't wait to show people
19:02just how weird girls can be.
19:04Ah!
19:05Because I was totally that as a teen
19:08and a young adult and, like, now.
19:11I love how May is just a confident dork.
19:16And she's unapologetic about it.
19:19I feel like she was the girl that I wanted to be.
19:22There's so many elements of me in May
19:26spunky, loud.
19:28Tower to the people!
19:29Doesn't care what anyone thinks.
19:31I accept and embrace all labels.
19:33Even though I was a total nerd.
19:36I was so oblivious to that, and I think that helped me.
19:39She herself never questions who she is,
19:42and I think she fights what is expected of her,
19:46but deep down she always knew who she was,
19:49and she was always so accepting of herself.
19:52I remember being that at some point
19:54and then, you know, hitting that age
19:57and then suddenly turning very, very shy
19:59when I got acne, and then, you know,
20:01and I was very aware of my body and all that stuff,
20:03and that's what I wanted to explore
20:06with, you know, May turning into a red panda.
20:09She's this girl that has her life together,
20:12and then all of a sudden magical puberty hits.
20:15It's going to be okay.
20:16That one's not, will you just get out?
20:18Excuse me?
20:20Are you serious?
20:23For May, I really wanted her to sound unique.
20:26Oh my gosh, that's like the best thing ever.
20:28I wanted her to feel like a real girl.
20:30Oh my gosh, that was the best thing ever.
20:32And so we found Rosalie Chang.
20:35It's like you feel bad about turning her down
20:37because she's your mom.
20:39Wow!
20:40She just had this really great voice.
20:42It was just like a charming imperfection to it.
20:44Schedule, sorry.
20:45For May, it was important to design her
20:49in the way that we saw ourselves.
20:51Her face is round.
20:53Her ankles are thick.
20:54We definitely embraced her chunky cute.
20:58It's kind of our design aesthetic
21:00for our characters and for our sets.
21:03We were like looking at each other's faces.
21:05We're like, hey, we got moles.
21:06She should have moles.
21:07Yeah.
21:08And then, and then you're like,
21:09Hey, Rona, you have...
21:10You have funny lips or something.
21:11Yeah.
21:12Yeah, you have like that dip in your lip.
21:13Let's put that in.
21:14Yeah.
21:15Hey, Rona, you have really patchy eyebrows.
21:16You have like weird patchy eyebrows.
21:17What?
21:18When that part of myself gets celebrated
21:21and the director's like, hey, I like that.
21:23Let's put it in our main character.
21:24You're like, hey, why did I hate that for so long?
21:27Jin!
21:28Jin!
21:29It's happening!
21:30What are you doing?
21:31For me, this story is so much my day-to-day life.
21:40I have to admit that I am much more the mom
21:43than I am the main character
21:45because I actually have three kids who are teens.
21:48I am surrounded by teenagers and hormones and puberty at work
21:53and then I go home and I am equally, if not more,
21:56surrounded by puberty and hormones at home.
21:59Are you guys gonna walk the dog?
22:01Or will you take him together?
22:04Or are you gonna take him separate?
22:06No.
22:07Bye.
22:08Thank you.
22:09You're being very well behaved.
22:11You're just not normally good that soon.
22:15The number one rule in my family?
22:18Honor your parents.
22:21They're the supreme beings who gave you life.
22:24The least you can do in return is every single thing they ask.
22:30I think both of us probably grew up under a lot of pressure
22:33to, you know, make our parents proud.
22:35Yeah.
22:36I had that pressure on myself.
22:38Like, I was very high-strung.
22:40I was really into good grades.
22:43I was into the image of the perfect girl.
22:47I never asked for anything.
22:49My whole life I've been her perfect little Mei Mei.
22:52Temple duties, greeds.
22:53Violin top dancing.
22:55Yeah.
22:56We've been so good.
22:57If they don't trust us anyway, then what's the point?
23:00Mei's struggle in this film is she's torn between
23:04being her mom's good little daughter
23:06and embracing her, like, wild inner beast.
23:13That is a universal struggle that a lot of kids go through,
23:17especially, I think, immigrant kids.
23:19There's definitely, like, more of this obligation
23:21to carry on your family's legacy
23:24and make sure that their sacrifices
23:27and coming to a new country aren't in vain.
23:29But also, you're in a new country.
23:31You're experiencing all of this crazy, awesome stuff
23:34that maybe your parents didn't get to grow up with.
23:38You're caught between two worlds,
23:40and that's kind of what I wanted to explore in Mei,
23:42and also, like, literally caught between
23:44being, like, a human girl and a panda.
23:47I immigrated to the U.S. when I was 10,
23:51and my mom is very much in her eastern roots.
23:56And when I came here, you know,
23:58I was the good little Chinese girl that I knew how to be,
24:02and then as I get more and more exposed
24:04to the Western culture
24:06and what it means to be an American teenager,
24:09my mom and I started to butt heads.
24:12I had to discover how to bridge the gap
24:17between being a dutiful daughter,
24:21faithful to myself and a good friend.
24:26In eighth grade, I met my best friend, Aya Alladel.
24:30She really taught me that girls can burp the alphabet.
24:37Girls can want to play video games.
24:42If you trip and you fall on your face,
24:45you can learn to laugh at yourself.
24:47You don't have to be embarrassed for your decisions,
24:50for your mistakes, for who you are.
24:53She really opened my eyes to all of that.
24:57This is Bao.
24:59This is, uh...
25:01Your first baby.
25:02Our first baby.
25:04Our first baby.
25:06Rona designed this cute little nose for him.
25:09Used our own noses.
25:11You look like your mother.
25:14I had this short film that I was developing
25:16that became Bao,
25:17and Rona was one of the first people
25:19that I roped into the story.
25:21I was like, dang, she can really paint,
25:23and she has really good taste,
25:24and she seems really cool.
25:26I really need an art person
25:27to, like, take this to the next level.
25:30To be honest, like, I will follow you
25:33to the ends of the earth.
25:34I think Domi is just a brilliant, brilliant mind.
25:37I just feel like we click,
25:39and we can, like, be so open
25:41and communicating with each other.
25:43We're different enough in certain areas of our tastes
25:47that we can collaborate
25:48and create something even better together
25:51than if we worked on something separately.
25:53Mm-hmm.
25:56Hey, Bart.
25:57Hey, Lisa.
25:58In the movie, May and her family own
26:01and take care of a family temple.
26:04We took several trips
26:06to different historic temples
26:08around California
26:10that were built by early Chinese settlers
26:14just to get a feeling
26:15of what these grassroots temples are like.
26:18I also spent time living behind a temple
26:21with my grandma in China,
26:23and I just remember it being
26:25just a really lovely memory.
26:28I'd make candles,
26:30and we would sell them
26:31to visitors of the temples,
26:33and I learned how to pray properly
26:35with my grandma.
26:39When we got to, like,
26:40building the set of the temple
26:42and dressing it,
26:43it was really cool, like,
26:44seeing those details that we saw
26:46at the temples kind of pop up
26:48in the background.
26:49Like, there's just a bottle of vegetable oil,
26:52like, cleaning supplies tucked away
26:54in the corner.
26:55They've been around since, like,
26:57the gold rush era.
26:58A lot of these immigrants
26:59who came with, like,
27:00so little were able to cobble together
27:02a little piece of home.
27:04That kind of felt like the immigrant spirit.
27:06That kind of felt like me and Rona
27:08and how, like, we, in our art,
27:10we are inspired by Eastern and Western stuff.
27:13We try to match their face shape.
27:17Kind of like a bell shape.
27:18I remember you saying,
27:19Rona, like, this is not a Chinese film.
27:22This is a coming-of-age film,
27:24but it just happens to be about a Chinese girl.
27:28We need to really tap into the mind
27:31of a 13-year-old growing up in 2002,
27:34growing up in Toronto.
27:36What did we like when we were 13?
27:39Yeah.
27:40And we liked Sailor Moon.
27:42We liked anime.
27:44The fandoms are what got me really into anime.
27:48I was drawing fan art passionately.
27:51I had a secret sketchbook.
27:53You join an online community.
27:55You draw fan art,
27:57and then other people would comment on it,
27:59and that would encourage you to draw more,
28:01produce more,
28:02and that's kind of just what encouraged me
28:04to keep drawing.
28:06I think as a kid,
28:08it was, like, such an escape.
28:10I know I'm Asian,
28:11but I'm in a very white school.
28:13It kind of was nice to be connected
28:15to that Asian side of myself.
28:18I didn't have a boyfriend,
28:19so then it's nice to read about boyfriends.
28:21Yeah, and a lot of them are drawn
28:23and written by women, too.
28:24Right.
28:25There was a lot of stories told
28:26from, like, a girl's point of view,
28:28and they're, like, the heroes.
28:29Yep.
28:30They, like, save the day,
28:31or they change the hearts of all the boys
28:34and make them fall for her.
28:36This is my house.
28:38This is my boyfriend, Darren.
28:44My many game consoles,
28:46been using these to de-stress over quarantine.
28:50This is this awesome Miyazaki art book
28:55I got about the Ghibli Museum.
28:58I got this rug over quarantine.
29:00Diane really likes this rug.
29:02Where's Diane?
29:03Diane.
29:04Don't be scared.
29:05Don't be scared.
29:06Don't be scared.
29:07Don't be scared.
29:08Come on.
29:09Come on.
29:10She'll come out.
29:11She's shy.
29:12I think I'm craving, like, even more speed
29:15as she poofs into a panda and shoots forward.
29:18We're paying homage to anime
29:20throughout the entire movie.
29:22You can see it in the expressions
29:25and the acting,
29:26the starry eyes in May
29:28when she sees a boy
29:29that she really, really loves.
29:31Uh, May?
29:33Why are you staring at Carter Murphy Mayhew?
29:35We definitely have a lot of expertise
29:37on the movie about, uh,
29:38being 13-year-old girls, for sure.
29:40There's definitely a, uh, lived experience there
29:43that we get to bring to the movie making
29:45maybe in a different way
29:47than I would have been able to say
29:49on a movie like Wall-E, say.
29:51Wow.
29:53That scene with May going under the bed
29:55and all of a sudden,
29:56she's sort of gripped by things
29:58and she's drawing these sexy pictures
30:00and the conflict there
30:02and why did I draw those things?
30:04I mean, I wasn't under my bed drawing things,
30:06but when I was 11,
30:08I had a little wooden clothespin
30:11and I had this mad crush on this woman
30:13that was older than me,
30:14but I did not know that I was gay at the time.
30:18And I remember drawing her name on the clothespin
30:21and then flipping it over.
30:22And she played a sport,
30:23so I put her number down
30:25and, like, that sat on my desk
30:27and I would look at it sometimes.
30:28You know, like, these things,
30:29these silly things you do.
30:31I definitely get...
30:32I get what May's doing.
30:34So, like, from the side,
30:37I'm gonna look like this.
30:38Did you know that I was like,
30:39oh, my God, am I ready?
30:41Like...
30:42To be a production designer?
30:43Yeah, will I be good?
30:44We both did it on a short,
30:46but, like, you're a first-time feature.
30:48I would be a first-time feature production designer.
30:51I figured because I was nervous about directing
30:53for the first time that you would be nervous
30:56about production designing,
30:58but I naively thought, like,
31:00how hard, how much harder
31:01could it be directing a feature?
31:03Are we gonna lose some of that
31:04if we get into the...
31:05I was really scared, honestly,
31:07like, at the beginning.
31:08I mean, you know, Domi was intimidating, right?
31:11I mean, she's...
31:12Seriously, you were, like, super talented and...
31:14I'm gonna be a diva.
31:15No, I was never worried about that.
31:17And it was good, too,
31:18because you also made me kind of,
31:19having done this for a while,
31:21like, you questioned things
31:23that I hadn't questioned in a while.
31:26So I started in May of 97
31:30at Pixar on A Bug's Life.
31:32I'd worked in traditional animation,
31:34but at the time, CG animation
31:35was a completely different ballgame.
31:37I just remember I would have this notepad
31:39and I would just write down questions.
31:42I was like, is the render farm a zoo?
31:44What's a cookie?
31:45Can I have a cookie?
31:46They're like, no.
31:47You cannot.
31:48A cookie is not the cookie.
31:49I was kind of like, here we go.
31:50Welcome to my questions.
31:52Danielle was definitely somebody
31:54that I sought out
31:55and would not judge you
31:56and give you a nice, clear and concise answer.
31:59When we export Act 3,
32:02is there a way to do one
32:03that just has music and...
32:06One of the things I love most about Pixar
32:08is that I'm still asking questions
32:10with the same amount of freedom and safety
32:14as I did on the first day I got here.
32:16It's just kind of a philosophy that I've kept,
32:18and it's something I like to encourage other people to do
32:20as they're starting on something.
32:22It's just, if you don't know,
32:23you're probably not the only one in the room
32:24who doesn't know, so ask.
32:26We basically started these this morning,
32:28so, um, be gentle.
32:32A little bit before I was asked to be the DP on WALL-E,
32:36I thought, oh, I don't know if I could ever be a DP.
32:39Maybe, like, in 10 or 15 years.
32:41Wow, that's great.
32:43This one we lit in five minutes.
32:45Oh, but, man!
32:46And then Andrew Stanton asked me
32:48to be the DP on WALL-E,
32:49and I was terrified,
32:51because I didn't think I knew how to do that at all.
32:54I mean, I think we both credit Andrew
32:56to a big degree, frankly.
32:58We both had this encouragement
33:00neither one of us would have asked for
33:02until he kind of said,
33:04no, I want you to come do this.
33:06It was an amazing experience.
33:07It was also, you know, half the time terrifying
33:10of just trying to figure out
33:11how to kind of hang on to who I was
33:15and make it through,
33:16even though a lot of times
33:17it felt like I didn't know what I was doing.
33:22But what we then decided to do is
33:24some look stuff that's sort of like,
33:26how do we get out of the Pixar look?
33:28How do we get into some new things?
33:30We were trying to push the boundaries of style
33:34in both storytelling, in the camera,
33:37the look of things.
33:38Using some hand-drawn elements,
33:40but then you sprinkle in Asian art influences.
33:43It's been so interesting to take those pieces
33:46and figure out how you can apply them
33:48to a 3D computer animated film.
33:51For me, I really wanted to be a VFX supervisor
33:55that was making sure that people
33:58had the room to bring their very best.
34:00Not telling people what to do,
34:02but making space for them to shine.
34:04And I have to say, honestly,
34:06a lot of that has started with Rona
34:08because she is the most collaborative production designer
34:11I have ever worked with far and away.
34:13And I think it's made a huge difference
34:15to the movie and to people's enjoyment
34:17of making the movie.
34:18And this is the trust and the confidence I gained.
34:25This isn't just our first concert.
34:28This is our first step into womanhood.
34:31And we have to do it together.
34:34May's friends are Miriam, Abby, and Priya.
34:38And they're her dork squad.
34:41They accept her no matter what,
34:44red panda or no panda.
34:46I always saw that as a metaphor
34:48for when I found my squad.
34:50More time, here we come!
34:53I love that May has these key friendships.
34:56I very much am that person myself.
34:59I always was the kid who had, like,
35:01two or three best friends.
35:03Those kind of quirky, dorky people
35:05who made you laugh.
35:06Equally insecure about what was going on.
35:10In high school, we'd get invited to the party
35:13and we'd be like, oh, okay, cool.
35:15And then we'd drive over to the party.
35:17And, like, we'd sit outside for a minute.
35:19And then we were like, let's go get a cake.
35:23And then we'd eat a cake, like a whole cake,
35:26in the car, and then go home.
35:29It was about friends that listened to that moment
35:32when you were like, I'm not comfortable going in
35:34or I'm not confident enough to do this.
35:36And all I really want to do is go hang out with you guys.
35:40Hi, sorry I'm late.
35:44Figuring out how to be comfortable in the room
35:46and finding my voice took a while.
35:49When I first started, I was definitely more nervous.
35:52I was one of the few women in the story department.
35:56What helped a lot for me was, like,
35:58a female story artist support group called the Story Artistas,
36:03led by Mary Coleman and Nicole Grindle.
36:06They were like, yeah, like, I want you guys to get comfortable,
36:09like, stating out loud what your goals are.
36:12And I think that was, like, one lunch where, like,
36:14I, like, meekly said out loud, like, I want to be a director.
36:17Oh!
36:18Oh, yeah, I'm really feeling that anger.
36:21She's, like, launching herself up.
36:23Sorry, I'm not...
36:24You could play Ming a little bit more in slow-mo as well.
36:27Yeah. Otherwise, it's looking good.
36:29Anyone else have thoughts? Notes?
36:31Mamie, there you are.
36:33Hey, Mom, you're ten minutes late.
36:35What happened? Are you hurt? Are you hungry?
36:37Um...
36:38Ming is, like, like a force to be reckoned with.
36:42She's just a sweet, innocent child.
36:45How dare you take advantage of her?
36:47When Sandra Oh became the voice of Ming,
36:50it just felt like her character is starting to flesh out.
36:54Oh, God, please!
36:55I knew you were trouble.
36:57Sandra's so funny, but she also has so much range.
37:00She added that missing piece to the puzzle of Ming.
37:04I have a double-jointed elbow! Look!
37:06I can make a perfect circle!
37:08That was great.
37:09I think in terms of design,
37:11you wanted her to have the really powerful shoulders
37:14with these, like, thin eyebrows,
37:16kind of like Chinese ladies from, like, the 60s
37:18with the chi-pao and stuff.
37:20Like I wanted traditional Chinese mixed with, like, working girl.
37:29We definitely couldn't have written Ming
37:31without, like, input from Lindsay
37:34and, like, other moms on the show.
37:37I mean, I came at it purely from the point of view of, like,
37:42the oppressed teenage daughter.
37:44So it was really helpful, like, hearing that other side.
37:48You don't know everything.
37:49Like, you're making it up as you go along.
37:51What I love about Ming is that she's not kind of
37:54one-sided cookie-cutter character,
37:57and certainly not as a mom.
37:58And as a mom myself, I can appreciate those moments.
38:03Hey, Slani.
38:04Mm-hmm.
38:05So will you remind me before we sit down to dinner
38:08to RSVP for your...
38:10Fall festival?
38:11Yeah.
38:12Good talk.
38:13You're having conversations that you are like,
38:16is this even the right conversation to be having?
38:18Am I supposed to be playing more of a mom role?
38:20I don't even know what that is.
38:22You're talking about heartbreak and dating
38:25and insecurity and body image.
38:28I know how I feel about all those things,
38:30and yet I don't know what I'm supposed to say
38:32about any of them.
38:33I don't know if I'm supposed to pretend
38:35I don't have those issues
38:36or if I'm supposed to say I had all of them.
38:39We always joke that, you know,
38:40your poor oldest kid is like the first pancake.
38:42You're like, oof.
38:44Sorry, dude.
38:45I'm pretty sure we're messing this up.
38:47The third one, we should be good.
38:48The third one, she's gonna have nothing to complain about.
38:50You guys, the RSVP thing's closed.
38:54Mom!
38:55Okay.
38:56Is it too late?
38:57Yeah, apparently, but that's okay.
38:59Ready?
39:00Yeah.
39:01In a way, parenting overwhelms me much more
39:06than my job does.
39:08And I think it's just because
39:11I feel like the stakes are so much higher.
39:15Every choice you make as a parent
39:18has equal chances of being this great memory
39:21and a success in your relationship with them.
39:23Or alternatively, this huge disaster
39:26that they will talk about for the rest of their lives
39:29as the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to them.
39:32Maybe we find love right where we are.
39:37Okay. Who wants to get dressed?
39:39We both have worked very hard at our careers,
39:48and we are late mommies,
39:51and so I think both of us have a huge amount of regard
39:54for how important our work and career is,
39:56and so we try to protect that for one another.
39:58On Fridays, Paige is here with the kids.
40:00We don't have the nanny.
40:02And, you know, I sort of have this, like,
40:04oh, at any spare moment I have,
40:06I should be running out to help,
40:07and, like, she has zero expectation of that.
40:10That's made it so much more doable
40:12to be able to kind of balance the two things.
40:15Not that it's always easy or something,
40:17but that makes a huge difference.
40:19Cute bugs.
40:21Boy, you're gonna really destroy the house this morning.
40:23You know, it's really amazing.
40:26Like, those kids right now, they're almost 17 months.
40:30Maybe you can hear Jack crying in the other room.
40:33That's a little heartbreaking
40:35because I want to go run and help.
40:36It is a massive luxury to be able to see my kids
40:40as much as I have during this last year-plus.
40:43Like, I never, ever would have been able to see them as much.
40:46I would have been racing home from work
40:48just to catch them going to bed.
40:50Sometimes I get to catch them for dinner.
40:52I always get to put them to bed.
40:54You know, it's not like you can ever get that time back.
41:05Yeah, I think it's working really well.
41:07Okay.
41:08Final.
41:12I think it took until screening six
41:14for us to finally have an ending,
41:16and that, I think, was because it took a long time
41:20for me to process my own relationship with my mother
41:23and just trying to figure out, like,
41:25how to be a good daughter for them.
41:28I also don't know what the solution is in real life.
41:32Like, is it about being true to yourself,
41:34or is it about honoring your parents?
41:36I don't know.
41:37It's some messy mix of both.
41:39There's no clear answer.
41:45Before I was a mom,
41:47it just didn't occur to me how hard it would be.
41:52I don't know how people do it,
41:53and I don't even know how I'm doing it right now.
41:56You know?
41:59My mom has been such a huge supporter
42:03of what I want to do,
42:05and she just always believed
42:07that I know what's best.
42:09That gave me so much freedom
42:11to be the artist that I am today.
42:16Happy baby.
42:17Growing up, my parents separated,
42:24and striving for perfection
42:26came from this feeling of, like,
42:28I just want to be good enough
42:30to keep my dad and my mom,
42:34and maybe if I was a perfect little girl,
42:38my parents would be together.
42:40Yeah.
42:42And it worked out in the best possible way for me.
42:48I feel like it made me ambitious
42:53ever since I had a baby.
42:55My worth, who I am,
42:57is no longer so much tied to others.
43:00I just feel like I am a whole being,
43:04and I'm solid.
43:06I think anyone being able to tell kids
43:13as they're growing up
43:14and going through this sort of chaos of emotion,
43:17or feeling out of control,
43:18or do my parents love me,
43:20or can I be who I want to be,
43:22and they'll still love me,
43:23or who am I,
43:24and what do the other kids want me to be?
43:26We need art in general,
43:29and especially things that go on a screen
43:31that kids can see to tell them that it is okay.
43:34And I think it's also for parents,
43:36it's okay to see all of that craziness,
43:39and that it's a natural part of life
43:40that you've got to wade through
43:41to form who you really are.
43:43Maylearn says she's not like her mom,
43:46and that's okay.
43:48And then she realizes,
43:50I'm my own person.
43:52I want to embrace this thing
43:54that every other member of my family
43:56has tried to lock away.
43:59When she becomes this red panda,
44:02it at first glance represents everything
44:04she doesn't want to be,
44:05her being different and standing out,
44:07and feeling like she can't control herself
44:10or the situation the way she used to be able to.
44:13You can't go through life
44:14and become the amazing person you're supposed to become
44:17if things don't conspire to rock that sense of stability.
44:21When you say to embrace the red panda,
44:23I think that represents being okay with that part of yourself.
44:27It's okay not to be in control all the time.
44:30It's okay to be messy.
44:31It's okay to be loud.
44:32It's okay to be noticed.
44:34If you don't accept it, it's a curse.
44:38And then if you embrace it,
44:40then it's a gift that keeps on giving.
44:42I mean, for May, once she embraced it,
44:45her whole life opened up to her.
44:48The last year plus with the pandemic has been unlike anything
44:53any of us have experienced.
44:54It's been incredibly difficult.
44:56It's been very stressful.
44:57And for me, this is the funniest movie I've ever worked on.
45:00And so if even at just that level,
45:04people get to have some laughs,
45:06I think that would be amazing.
45:08But it also has this much deeper thing of really being able to reach out and say,
45:13it's okay.
45:14Like if you're confused and feeling crazy and you don't know who you are
45:17and you might let your parents down or you might let yourself down.
45:20And that's sort of a natural part of growing up.
45:22And if that could be what we provide for,
45:25I think even one kid out there,
45:27that would be really amazing.
45:29That would be amazing.
45:38Come on.
45:39Good cornflakes.
45:43Garen made a teeth yesterday.
45:46Look, your teeth is on camera.
45:49I love how you guys designed it.
45:53In there?
45:54Yeah, mom.
45:55You take all the animals back up there.
45:58When these dogs come in here and start snoring so loudly,
46:01like to the point of like...
46:13Do you, Rona, take the look to be your lawfully wedded spouse?
46:17I do.
46:18Congratulations, United.
46:24Good boy.
46:25Got it?
46:26Good job.
46:27Oh.
46:28Oh.
46:29Oh.
46:30Oh.
46:31Oh.
46:32Oh.
46:33Oh.
46:35Oh.
46:45Oh.
46:49Oh.
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