Bihar electoral roll revision: Voter roll cleanup or votebandi? Top focus on To The Point

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This edition of 'To The Point' delves into the contentious voter roll revision exercise in Bihar ahead of state elections, initiated by the Election Commission to eliminate bogus voters. This move has sparked a political storm, with the opposition labelling it 'votebandi' and the government calling it 'Operation Clean Up.'

Transcript

00:00Good evening, you're watching To The Point. I'm Preeti Chaudhary. Before we get to our two big debates this evening, allow me to take you through the headlines.

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02:50Campaign kicks off in Nagpur.

02:52Three months before Bihar elections,

03:13The election commission of India

03:21embarks on a contentious role revision exercise.

03:32The aim to eliminate bogus voters.

03:35The process requires unprecedented furbishing of documents to prove citizenship.

03:52The reaction, voter apprehension and a massive political storm.

03:57Opposition calling it vote-bandi.

04:02Bihar government calling it Operation Cleanup.

04:06The case now with the top court of the country.

04:10While source-based leaks from the election commission make the rounds.

04:15As per sources, the process has already revealed illegals from Nepal, Bangladesh and Myanmar.

04:24Sources or sutra of the EC have now run foul of leader of opposition in Bihar, Tejas Viyadar,

04:32where he called sources or sutra this.

04:36The Bihar government now gunning for the RGD for insulting the election commission.

05:02While the controversy rages on, the larger question.

05:22What stops the EC from holding alleged press conference?

05:27Top focus on To The Point this evening.

05:29All right, joining me right now is Manoj Jha, RGD MP, Rajya Sabha.

05:34Appreciate you taking the time out and joining us, Mr. Jha.

05:37First up, in midst of all the arguments that are swirling around Mr. Jha,

05:41the government of Bihar and even the government of the day continues to build one argument.

05:48That is, does the RGD or the Gatbandan in Bihar want illegals to vote

05:54when it comes down to the special revision of roles that is taking place?

05:57Preeti ji, it's a very, I mean, your channel is very, very responsible.

06:03But tell me, we have three chief election, three election commissioners.

06:09One is in Delhi, Gyanesh ji.

06:13Then we have Joshi sahab.

06:15We have Sandhu sahab.

06:17And we have a chief electoral officer in Bihar, Gunji al-sahab.

06:22Has anyone of them come to the press and said that, look, we have discovered or invented or whatsoever

06:29the illegal immigrants or the number of entries which are foreign nationals in the electoral role of Bihar

06:36in whatever district they wish to say?

06:39We have not heard.

06:40What we have heard, an attribution to an entity called sources.

06:46I don't know where have we reached in our parliamentary and political career that sources.

06:51And there is, there is, I mean, not even a single question who the sources are.

06:56But the fundamental fact remains, not what the BJP says, that has the EC said it.

07:04And if the EC has said it, the same contaminated electoral role is responsible for electing Honourable

07:11Prime Minister thrice, 14, 19, and 20, 24.

07:18Let these kind of things, even the draft role is not ready.

07:21There is a total kiosk in Bihar in every nook and corner.

07:25Some of your reporters and strangers, if you ask them about several districts, they'll tell you there is a wide confusion.

07:32Honourable Supreme Court gave a direction to the Honourable Election Commission of India

07:37that in order to maximise inclusion and minimise kiosk, you must look at ration card,

07:44EPIC voter card, and Aadhar card at the top of it.

07:48We have not had any word, official word, again, leave a side source, from the Election Commission.

07:55So what I am sincerely of the view, that a commission which was designed by the first CEC, Sukumar Singh,

08:03he would not even imagine that we shall come at a position, then in lieu of EC, some sources will speak,

08:12and then there shall be political commentary on it, bereft of any evidence, bereft of any scientific, rational, bereft of any political understanding.

08:24Right. You know, Mr. Jai, I understand your apprehensions, especially when it comes down to where this information is stemming from,

08:31that there are illegals in Bihar, from Nepal, from Bangladesh, from Myanmar, because it's all source-based information.

08:38And, you know, you're completely right where you say that there should at least be an official indication.

08:44There should be a press conference by the EC, instead of source-based information.

08:48Two questions I'll follow up with this.

08:50Number one, Manojha, on the larger context of this entire exercise,

08:53while there are issues and the opposition like you continue to highlight those,

08:57the government of Bihar, be it the JDU, be it the BJP, be it even the LJP,

09:03constantly goes on to say, all of these parties, what's the problem?

09:07Because over 70% of people, as per the official data, I'm only quoting official data,

09:12have already submitted their forms, number one.

09:15Number two, the constant refrain, Mr. Jai, is that the likes of your party want illegals to vote.

09:22All of these terminologies, you know, being peddled right now.

09:26But the larger indication, what's wrong with an exercise which only deletes bogus voting?

09:33That's what the various parties are stating.

09:37Priti, I think your question itself is loaded with lots of misinformation, half-truths,

09:44which have again come from the sources or from the BJP quarters.

09:49But having said that, I'll tell you, let's go one by one.

09:52First of all, I have said it earlier and I repeat, first of all, our people in Delhi,

10:00whether the BJP government or the Election Commission,

10:03should understand the Indo-Napolese relationship across 15, 16 districts in Bihar.

10:11There are marriages across the border.

10:12I mean, the forces from Nepal work for you.

10:17They work here.

10:18There are different kind of treaties that are between these two nations.

10:22But then, I think these are post-truth times.

10:26So I won't get into that and waste my time and your time.

10:30Your channel, I repeat, is a responsible channel.

10:33I would request you, ask your reporters, ground-level reporters,

10:38because one Hindi daily has also done extensive reporting today.

10:44That's one of the popular Hindi daily, not only in Bihar and Thai, North India.

10:48English dailies, every newspaper, which matter for this country, they have been doing it.

10:55Are they bringing issues from the heaven?

10:57The fact of the matter is, let me tell you why.

11:02Why did we object?

11:0422 years ago, it happened.

11:07Do we even remember that in 2003, when Atal Jiri was the prime minister,

11:13these kind of exercises happened at a grand scale, at a large scale.

11:18If we come across any noise, any conflict,

11:232003, you must have been there, in whatever capacity, wherever.

11:26You might not have heard.

11:28I don't remember.

11:29I was teaching in Delhi University.

11:32I never heard anything about 2003 exercise.

11:36Why this time it is troublesome?

11:39That means the people who designed it, who envisaged it,

11:43they were not very clear what do they want,

11:45and how do they want what they want.

11:47Number two, when the CEC took over,

11:51and I was very glad when he said, immediately after taking over,

11:54that no decision of mine shall be without consulting the political parties,

12:00it certainly was a huge decision.

12:02Did he consult the political parties?

12:05No.

12:06Maybe he might have consulted one,

12:09but that doesn't represent the plurality of political culture in India

12:13and multi-party system in India.

12:15Third, how did he arrive at the conclusion

12:18that these 11 documents are sacrosent,

12:21the rest of the documents shall not be entertained?

12:24How did he emphasize that the exercise has to begin from Bihar,

12:27which is going to have official notification in the month of September?

12:33Look at the rush.

12:34Look at the chaos.

12:35The chaos is because of the pressing timeline,

12:38not because of any.

12:39We are not principally opposed to it.

12:41The fact of the matter is,

12:43you did not put your head into it.

12:46And as a result of which,

12:47all these things which I'm telling you on your channel

12:50have been raised by,

12:52have been spoken by the Honorable Supreme Court also.

12:57But because it's an ongoing exercise,

12:59Supreme Court said that we are fixing a date of 28th of July.

13:03But meanwhile,

13:05we want you to maximize inclusion

13:07and look at these kind of documents like Aadhaar,

13:10EPIC voter card and Russian card.

13:13But there is no official confirmation.

13:17So what I mean that we are not against the exercise.

13:20We are against the transparency.

13:22We are against minimizing participation.

13:26And in the same election commission

13:27is aware of the fact that roughly 20%

13:30of Bihar's population live outside Bihar.

13:34And their presumption is

13:36that the people who live outside Bihar

13:38may have duplicate,

13:40may be duplicate voters.

13:43Now, where is the evidence?

13:45For this also, you need evidence.

13:48Bereft of evidence.

13:49So, Mr. Shah, primarily you're saying

13:51your political outfit has two issues.

13:53One, of course, is the timing of it

13:54taking place three months before elections

13:56in the month of monsoon.

13:57Number time, you're talking about transparency.

13:59You don't have issues with the...

14:01Number three.

14:01Number three, lack of consultation.

14:03Absolute lack of consultation.

14:04So these are your three issues.

14:06These are your three issues

14:07with the election commission

14:08conducting this exercise.

14:10You know, you did say,

14:11well, we have our reporters on ground.

14:14And yes, there are issues.

14:15And that's what we've been constantly highlighting.

14:17But the flip side of it,

14:18which of course, you know,

14:19the question that I asked you,

14:20the government continues to say,

14:22and, you know, it's a valid point.

14:24Do we want bogus voting?

14:26We want it removed.

14:26They also give the example of 2003,

14:29which you also quoted,

14:30saying that entire exercise

14:31was completed in a month's time.

14:33So there is a fair amount of time

14:34before the Bihar election

14:35actually kicks in

14:36for this exercise to be completed.

14:38This is wrong information.

14:412003 took eight to 10 months.

14:44There was no immediate election in 2003.

14:47No, fair point.

14:48But, but...

14:49No, no, no.

14:50Mr. Shah,

14:50fair point that it took...

14:52that there were no immediate elections,

14:54but the government and the EC maintains

14:56that the election,

14:57the entire exercise was done

14:58in 33 days.

14:59That is what at least

15:00what is coming in from the...

15:03Let the then

15:05chief electoral officer Bihar,

15:08his version,

15:09it took roughly six to eight months.

15:11Okay.

15:12Well, I'm quoting,

15:12I'm quoting the government

15:14and what you call the EC sources.

15:16No, no.

15:16Government or election commission.

15:19No, no.

15:19I'm quoting both, sir.

15:20I'm quoting...

15:20The other question

15:21that I'd like to ask you.

15:22If it is government court,

15:24I consider it a political court.

15:26But if it is election commission court,

15:28please put it on your website.

15:30All right.

15:31Last two questions, Manoj,

15:32that I'd ask you.

15:33Fair, you know,

15:34issues that your party has raised

15:35where it comes up

15:37in terms of the role revision

15:38that is taking place.

15:39But,

15:40even though it is

15:41source-based information

15:42and you are valid

15:43to ask for a press conference

15:44that the EC should hold

15:45and put all this information

15:47which is being leaked

15:48by sources on record,

15:49valid concern of your party,

15:51but,

15:52then to turn around

15:53with your leader,

15:54you know,

15:55calling sources,

15:56source-mutra,

15:57sutra-mutra.

15:59You know,

15:59you and I both know

16:00what the connotation that is.

16:02Then you're completely making,

16:03you know,

16:04slight or making fun

16:06of a constitutional position.

16:07No, no, no.

16:10Are you...

16:11I mean,

16:11constitutional position

16:12did not come out

16:13and said

16:13that we are saying this.

16:16It's sources.

16:17And please,

16:18these sources

16:19were responsible

16:20for n number of things

16:21in recent times.

16:23They have been responsible

16:24for n number of things

16:25in recent times.

16:28There are times

16:28when you use

16:29a particular metaphor.

16:30You might dislike it,

16:32apparently,

16:32but the fact is,

16:33the message gets conveyed.

16:35And look,

16:36don't forget,

16:36we are living in times

16:37of

16:38Bhayens,

16:38Mangal,

16:39Sutra and Mujra.

16:40Jalidad,

16:41Tobi.

16:42These are the kind

16:43of discourses.

16:45All right,

16:45so you're saying

16:46you've resorted

16:46to the same discourse,

16:47correct?

16:48No,

16:49I'm saying

16:49that it was not

16:51an aspersion

16:51on the election commission.

16:53It was on the sources.

16:55Because election commission,

16:56even after that,

16:58has not come out

16:59and said

16:59our exercise

17:00is complete,

17:01please do understand

17:02the exercise

17:03is not even

17:0425% complete.

17:06Enumeration

17:07form submission

17:08is meaningless

17:09without the documents,

17:11without the verification.

17:12Okay, fair point.

17:13No,

17:13please listen to me.

17:14There has to be

17:15two times verification.

17:17Please,

17:17don't make it

17:18absolutely an issue

17:19which,

17:21I mean,

17:21without any argument,

17:23without any substance.

17:23answers.

17:26No,

17:26I get what you're saying,

17:27sir.

17:27My final question

17:28that I ask you

17:29before we leave

17:29I wish you'll get my point.

17:31I just wish.

17:32I hope you get my point.

17:34Why do you think

17:35we don't get your point,

17:36Mr. Jahar?

17:37You know,

17:38why?

17:40You know,

17:41I don't understand

17:42that point,

17:42but okay.

17:43You know,

17:44you all,

17:45you have a preconceived notion.

17:47No, sir,

17:47that's incorrect.

17:48Not all.

17:49Not everybody.

17:51I'm talking

17:52on the basis

17:52of evidence.

17:53On the basis

17:54of precedence.

17:54We understand.

17:55No, no, one second,

17:56sir.

17:56As a journalist,

17:57one completely

17:59understands

17:59this exercise

18:00is problematic

18:01in the manner

18:01of which is being

18:02conducted.

18:03And that is why

18:03it's in court.

18:05You know,

18:05we understand.

18:06You need to give us

18:07a little bit.

18:08Priti ji,

18:09of all the previous

18:12chief election commissioners,

18:14have you seen

18:15anybody

18:16agreeing to this

18:18exercise

18:19in this manner?

18:21I have read

18:22four election

18:23commissioners,

18:24previous ones,

18:26not a single one

18:27who are just

18:28stood in favor

18:29of the exercise

18:30in this manner.

18:31That tells you

18:32the real story.

18:35Okay, fair point.

18:36Last final question,

18:37Mr. Jha.

18:38You know,

18:38we are going to hear

18:39from the top court

18:40which are hearing

18:40number of,

18:41you know,

18:42petitions challenging

18:43the EC's move

18:44conducting this exercise.

18:45Whatever the result is,

18:47will it be acceptable

18:48or what the court says

18:49to your political outfit?

18:50Look,

18:51look,

18:52I mean,

18:52there is no denial

18:54we have moved

18:55to the court

18:56because we found

18:57the election commission

18:59was not willing

19:00to understand

19:01our position,

19:02our concern.

19:02At the same time,

19:04we saw that

19:04the Honorable Court

19:05could see the merit

19:07in our argument.

19:08They were also concerned

19:09about the pressing timeline.

19:11and they were also

19:12worried about

19:13the possible exclusion

19:15to an extent.

19:16During the proceedings,

19:18the Honorable judges

19:19asked that

19:20you have so little time

19:21that if somebody

19:22finds this or not there.

19:25But Mr. Jha,

19:26it's not the first time

19:27we've heard a lot

19:28of observations

19:29which seem to suggest

19:30something but you don't know.

19:31You did not,

19:32you did not let me finish.

19:34Sir, make your point.

19:35Let me finish my argument.

19:37It's your channel.

19:38You have all the time.

19:39I'm just telling you

19:40that the court said

19:42that people won't have time

19:43after Grivan's

19:44reiteration

19:45for voting

19:46because the voting

19:47shall be over.

19:48That amounts to

19:50potential disenfranchisement

19:53and any democracy

19:55should get worried

19:56because one man,

19:58one vote,

19:59one value

19:59that gets defeated.

20:01My only submission

20:02before you...

20:03Sir, very passionate submissions.

20:05Very passionate submissions

20:07that you have made

20:08and we are going to carry it

20:09exactly the way

20:10you've made them

20:11and, you know,

20:12we are not coming in

20:12with any preconceived notions

20:14but just the final point,

20:16Mr. Jha,

20:16before we let you go

20:17because it's not the first time,

20:19Mr. Jha,

20:19that we've heard

20:20the top court of the country

20:21or various courts

20:22make some very strong observations

20:23but when it comes down

20:24to the order,

20:25we've seen a bit of a discrepancy

20:26at times.

20:27Is the RJD agreeable

20:29to whatever the judgment

20:31is on this case?

20:33I mean,

20:33of course, yes.

20:35Why do you want us

20:38to open another front?

20:39You want us to fight our court?

20:41No.

20:42My court is my court.

20:43The highest court of the land

20:45will take our...

20:47Because, you know,

20:47something,

20:48I'll just end with this metaphor

20:49that the highest court of the land

20:52is the source of light

20:54in a dark tunnel

20:56and as a nation

20:57we are passing through

20:58a deep, dark,

21:01apparently endless tunnel.

21:02All right.

21:04Mr. Jha,

21:05appreciate you taking the time out

21:06and joining us.

21:09Good luck, sir,

21:10with your plea in the court.

21:11Thank you so much.

21:16All right,

21:16we are on India today.

21:17You'll always hear

21:18both sides of the story

21:19from what the RJD says now

21:22to what the BJP says

21:23in power

21:24along with the JDU

21:25and the LJP

21:26in the state of Bihar.

21:27Joining me right now

21:28is senior BJP leader

21:30from the state,

21:31Said Shahanawaz Hussain,

21:32Mr. Hessain,

21:33we are behind you.

21:34I'll печage you today, sir.

21:34First question,

21:36is the question,

21:37which has never stolen

21:38again do you know

21:45?

22:02media

22:03in many news

22:04and they are

22:05cross-check

22:06by the way

22:06but if

22:08Bihar

22:09is a border

22:10state

22:10where Nepal

22:11is a border

22:12where

22:12is a border

22:13which is a border

22:13where

22:14the border

22:14is a border

22:15is a border

22:17I am a member of parliament

22:20and I am a member of parliament

22:21in 13th

22:21people in

22:22border

22:23is a border

22:24border

22:25is a border

22:25and there are

22:26many days

22:27in Bihar

22:28in this

22:28border

22:29that

22:29many days

22:30are

22:31ڈیوٹ بنوالیا ہے یہ تو پہلے سے چرچہ

22:35کوئی نئی چرچہ نہیں شروع ہو رہی ہے

22:37ہمارا اتنا کہنا ہے کہ جو

22:40اس آئی آر یوجنہ شروع ہوئی ہے

22:44الیکشن کمیسن کے ذریعے

22:46وہ اچھی نیت سے کیا گیا ہے قدم

22:48لیکن جان بوجھ کے وپخش کے لوگ جو جانتے ہیں

22:52کہ جب وہ جیت جاتے ہیں

22:55کرناٹک میں جب جیت جاتے ہیں

22:58ہماشل میں، تلنگانہ میں

22:59ویناڑ میں رائے بریلی میں

23:01تجسی آدو راگوپور میں

23:03election commission

23:04بہت اچھا ہو جاتا ہے

23:06جب وہ ہار جاتے ہیں

23:08مہاراست میں

23:09ہریانہ میں

23:10ڈلی میں

23:10تو

23:11blame election commission

23:12پہ دیتے ہیں

23:13اب ایک نیا

23:14trend ڈینڈی الائنس

23:15کے لوگوں نے

23:16شروع کیا ہے

23:16کہ وہ

23:17ہار کا

23:18ٹھیک رہا

23:19اپنے اوپر نہیں لیتے

23:20اپنی کمیہ نہیں دیکھتے

23:22کہ آپ کی کیا وجہ تھی

23:23جو جنتہ ناراض ہے آپ سے

23:24وہ نہیں دیکھتے

23:26election commission

23:27کو blame کرتے ہیں

23:28مہاراست میں

23:29کہہ رہے تھے کہ

23:29election commission

23:30نے vote جوڑ دیا

23:31یہاں کہہ رہے ہیں

23:32election commission

23:33vote کٹ دے گا

23:34کیسے پتہ لگ گیا

23:35ان کو کی vote

23:36کٹنے والا ہے

23:37کیوں یہ

23:38ہنگامہ پرپا کیا جا رہا ہے

23:40جو پہلے بھی

23:41پرکریا ہوتی ہے

23:42جیسے

23:44میں نے بھاگلپور میں

23:45خود election commission

23:46کو complaint

23:47کیا تھا کئی بار

23:48کہ ہمارے یہاں

23:49گنگا کے پار بھی

23:50voter ہیں

23:51اور گنگا کے اس پار

23:53بھی voter

23:53ایک زلے میں

23:54تو آپ ایسا کریں

23:55کہ جو voter ہیں

23:57وہ دو جگہ

23:57voter نہ ہو

23:58ایک ہی جگہ

23:59voter ہے

23:59میں

24:00ڈلی میں بھی

24:01رہتا ہوں

24:02اور بیہار میں

24:03voter ہوں

24:03تو میں نے

24:04میں نے بھی

24:05اپنا ویریفیکیشن

24:06کرایا

24:06اگر میں

24:08voter ہوں

24:08تو میں اتنا

24:09جاگ رکھتا ہوں

24:09کہ میں جہاں

24:10voter ہوں

24:11اگر voter

24:11ریوزن ہوڑا ہے

24:12تو مجھے

24:12اپنا کرانا چاہیے

24:13اگر اتنا

24:14ذمہ دار تو

24:15ہونا چاہیے

24:16ہمیں

24:16تو جو voter

24:17ہے

24:17کوئی بھی

24:18voter

24:19ایک بھی

24:19valid voter

24:20کٹنے والا

24:21نہیں ہے

24:21چناؤ ایک پر

24:23blend کیا جا رہا ہے

24:24چناؤ آیوگ

24:25ڈیلی

24:25ٹری بی

24:26ڈیبیٹ میں

24:26تو نہیں

24:26آگے بیٹھ سکتا

24:27ہم میں

24:28چناؤ ایک

24:29کبھی

24:29پروکتہ نہیں

24:30ہوں

24:30میں پارٹی

24:31کی طرف سے

24:31اپنی رائے

24:32آپ کو دے

24:32رہا ہوں

24:32میں ماندہ

24:33ہوں

24:34کہ

24:34رجیڈی کے

24:35لوگوں نے

24:35کیسے

24:36تیہ کر لیا

24:36کہ وہ

24:37کون voter

24:38کس کو

24:38vote دینے والے

24:39ہم تو

24:40سب کا ساتھ

24:41سب کا وقاس

24:41سب کے

24:41وشواس والے

24:42لوگ ہم

24:43سب کے لیے

24:43کام کر رہے ہیں

24:45نتیش کمار

24:45یہاں نیائی کے

24:46ساتھ

24:46وقاس کر رہے ہیں

24:47کسی کو

24:48چھوڑ کے نہیں

24:49چل لیں

24:49تو جب ہم

24:50اچھا کام

24:51کر رہے ہیں

24:51بیہار میں

24:52اتنا

24:53progress ہو رہا ہے

24:54development ہو رہا ہے

24:55investment ہو رہا ہے

24:57industry لگ رہی ہے

24:58double engine کی

24:59سرکار ہے

24:59لوگ سبا میں بھی

25:00ہم

25:00چالیس میں

25:01تیس سیٹ

25:02جیتے ہیں

25:02اور اس بار

25:03بھی ہم دو سو سے

25:04زیادے سیٹ

25:05جیتنے والے ہیں

25:06پچھلی بار

25:07چراغ پاسمان

25:08الگ لڑے تھے

25:08وہ مل کر

25:09ہم اکٹھے ہو کے

25:10لڑنے والے ہیں

25:11تو ان کو

25:12پہلے سے خطشہ

25:13ہو رہا ہے

25:13کہ یہ جیتیں گے نہیں

25:15تو blame کس کو دے

25:16تو ابھی اسے

25:17blame دینے کی

25:17تیاری ہو رہی ہے

25:18چناؤ ہارنے کے بعد

25:20مہاراست میں

25:21election commission

25:22کو blame دیا

25:23اور چناؤ

25:24ہونے سے پہلے

25:25یہاں

25:26بیہار میں

25:26election commission

25:27کو blame کر رہے ہیں

25:29ایک بھی

25:29voter

25:30میں بیہار سے

25:31بھارت سرکار

25:32منتری رہا ہوں

25:33بیہار میں منتری رہا ہوں

25:34تین بار یہاں

25:35سانسد رہا ہوں

25:36ایک بھی

25:37مسلم سماس سے

25:38کوئی وقتی نے

25:39مجھے یہ نہیں

25:40فون کیا

25:41کہ میرا vote

25:41کٹ رہا ہے

25:42کسی نے نہیں کہا

25:44لیکن

25:44اس پر حکامہ کر رہے ہیں

25:47اور اگر

25:47کسی

25:48سرکا

25:49جی

25:49سوال

25:51یہ نہیں

25:52سوال

25:52EC کی نیت پہ

25:53نہیں ہے

25:54پہلا سوال

25:54ہے کہ

25:55جو ستروں کے

25:55حوالے سے

25:56اتنی ساری

25:56خبرے آ رہی ہیں

25:57پہلے کبھی

25:57نہیں ہوا

25:58EC کو

25:59باقاعدہ

25:59ایک پریس

25:59کانفرنس کر کے

26:00سارے

26:01جو بھی

26:01فیکٹس ہیں

26:02سامنے

26:02رکھ دینے

26:03چاہیے

26:03on record

26:03پہلی بات

26:04ہم اس کے

26:05پہلے

26:05منوجہ جی

26:06سے بات کر رہے

26:06تھے

26:06RJD

26:07انہوں نے

26:07بولا ہے

26:07کہ دیکھیں

26:08ہمیں کوئی

26:08دکھت نہیں

26:09ہے

26:09یہ جو پوری

26:09پرتکریہ

26:10ہو رہی ہے

26:11جو EC

26:12پورا

26:12رول

26:13ریویجن

26:13کر رہی ہے

26:13ہمیں اس سے

26:14کوئی دکھت

26:15نہیں ہے

26:15ہمیں تین

26:15پائمانے ہیں

26:16جس میں

26:17ہمیں

26:17پروبلم ہے

26:18اسی لئے

26:19ہم کوٹ گئے

26:19ہیں

26:19ان کا پہلا

26:20سوال ہے

26:21کہ تین

26:21مہینے میں

26:22یہ پوری

26:23ایکسرسائز

26:23نہیں ہو پائے گی

26:24کیونکہ

26:25ریڈریسل

26:25نہیں ہو پائے گا

26:26اور وہ بھی

26:27مونسون کے

26:28وقت

26:28ان کی

26:29سب سے

26:29بڑی دکھت

26:30یہ ہے

26:30دوسرا

26:31وہ کہہ رہے ہیں

26:31کہ ان کو

26:32کنسلٹ ہی

26:32نہیں کیا گیا

26:33کوئی پارٹی

26:34EC

26:35ملٹی پارٹی

26:36کو کنسلٹ

26:37کرتی ہے

26:37ساری پارٹی

26:38جو اس میں

26:38انوالوڈ

26:38ہیں

26:38ان کو

26:39کنسلٹ

26:40ہی نہیں

26:40کیا گیا

26:41اور یہ

26:42پوری

26:42پرتکریہ

26:43انہوں نے

26:43شروع کر دی

26:44مجھے

26:48تاجب ہے

26:49میں میڈم

26:51چھے بار

26:51لوگ سبہ

26:52کا چناؤ

26:52لڑا ہوں

26:53اور کئی

26:54چناؤ

26:55میں نے

26:55لڑوائے ہیں

26:56مجھے

26:57تو کبھی

26:57کنسلٹ

26:58نہیں کیا گیا

26:59کیا

26:59ووٹ

27:00ریویزن

27:00کا جب

27:01ووٹ

27:01کا کام

27:01ہوتا ہے

27:02جو

27:02الیکشن

27:02کمیشن

27:03ووٹر

27:04کو جوڑتا

27:04ہے

27:04یا

27:05ووٹ

27:05ایڈ کرتا

27:06ہے

27:06ووٹوں

27:07کو

27:07کٹتا

27:07ہے

27:08جو

27:08لوگ

27:08کر جاتے

27:09ان کے

27:09ووٹ

27:09ڈیلیٹ

27:10ہوتے ہیں

27:10تو

27:11کیا

27:11پارٹیوں

27:12کو

27:12اس پہ

27:12all

27:12پارٹی

27:13میٹنگ

27:13کرتا

27:13ہے

27:14یہ

27:14ہوتی

27:16رہتی

27:16ہے

27:17ابھی

27:17بھی

27:17شانواز

27:20جی

27:20جو

27:23فیکٹس

27:23بھی

27:23ہیں

27:24کہ

27:24دو

27:24ہزار

27:24تین

27:25کے

27:25باد

27:25یہ

27:25پہلی

27:25بار

27:26ہو

27:26رہا

27:26ہے

27:26ایسا

27:26نہیں

27:27ہے

27:27کہ

27:27یہ

27:27پہلے

27:27ہوا

27:27دو

27:28ہزار

27:28تین

27:28کی

27:29جب

27:29بات

27:29آتی

27:29ہے

27:29تو

27:30یہ

27:30پوری

27:30پرتکریہ

27:31بیہار

27:31میں

27:316-8

27:32مہینے

27:32میں

27:32ہوئی

27:33تو

27:33ہم

27:33کیسے

27:33کہ

27:34سکتے

27:34ہیں

27:34کہ

27:34یہ

27:34تین

27:35مہینے

27:35میں

27:35ہو

27:36جائے

27:36گی

27:36اور

27:37ایک

27:37اور

27:37بات

27:37شانواز

27:38جی

27:38بار

27:39بار

27:39اٹھ

27:39کے

27:39آ

27:39رہی

27:39ہے

27:40کہ

27:4070%

27:42لوگوں

27:42نے

27:42اپنا

27:43فارم

27:43دے

27:43دیا

27:43ہے

27:44فارم

27:44دینا

27:44ایک

27:45بات

27:45ہے

27:45پر

27:46دستا

27:47ویز

27:47دینا

27:47جو

27:48پورے

27:48اس میں

27:48ڈاکیومنٹس

27:49دینا

27:49وہ

27:50دوسری

27:50بات

27:50ہے

27:50وہ

27:50ابھی

27:51تک

27:51نہیں

27:51دیے

27:51گئے

27:51ہیں

27:52صرف

27:52فارم

27:52بھرے

27:52گئے

27:53نہیں

27:56فارم

27:57بھرے

27:57گئے

27:57ہیں

27:58میں

27:58نے

27:58بھر

27:58دیا

27:58ہے

27:59میں

28:00دلی

28:00میں

28:00تھا

28:01میرے

28:01ہاں

28:02وہ

28:02فارم

28:02آیا

28:02تھا

28:03انہوں نے

28:03بھیجا

28:03آپ

28:04جو

28:04لوگ

28:04باہر

28:05رہتے

28:05ہیں

28:05وہ

28:05واتس

28:06اپ

28:06بھی

28:06کریں

28:06گے

28:06تو

28:07سوئکار

28:07ہوگا

28:08یہ

28:08دے

28:08دیا

28:09گیا

28:09ہے

28:09الیکشن

28:10کمیشن

28:11کی

28:12نیت

28:12پر

28:13سوال

28:13اٹھانے

28:13پر

28:13ہمیں

28:14اتراز

28:14ہے

28:14الیکشن

28:15کمیشن

28:16سمدھانک

28:16سنستہ

28:17ہے

28:17اس پر

28:18سوال

28:18اٹھا رہے ہیں

28:19میڈیا

28:19نے

28:20کہا

28:20کہ یہ

28:20ستر

28:21تو

28:21اس پر

28:22دیکھئے

28:22کس طرح

28:23کی

28:23بھائشہ

28:23بولی

28:23جاری

28:24یعنی

28:25ٹارگیٹڈ

28:26پوری طرح

28:27سے

28:27ان کا

28:28پورا

28:28ابھیان

28:29ٹارگیٹڈ

28:29ہے

28:29الیکشن

28:30کمیشن

28:31کو

28:31میڈیا

28:31کو

28:32ان لوگوں

28:32کو

28:32کہیں

28:33کوئی

28:33دشواری

28:34آنے

28:34والی

28:34نہیں

28:34ہے

28:34میں

28:35ذمہ داری

28:35سے

28:35کہہ سکتا

28:36ہوں

28:36کہ ہم

28:37لوگ

28:37بھی

28:37چنتیت

28:37رہتے ہیں

28:38کہ ایک

28:38ووٹر

28:39چھوٹے

28:39نہیں

28:39اور

28:40سب

28:40کو

28:41اپنا

28:41کوئی

28:42ووٹر

28:42ہے

28:42تو

28:42پارٹیوں

28:43کو

28:43صحیح

28:43کرنا

28:43چاہیے

28:44کہ وہ

28:44اس میں

28:45صحیح

28:45دیں

28:45اگر

28:46کسی

28:46کا

28:47ناجہ

28:47کوئی

28:47ووٹر

28:48ہے

28:48جنون

28:48ووٹر

28:49ہے

28:49جان

28:50بجھ

28:50کہ اس

28:50کا

28:51ووٹ

28:51نہیں

28:51ایڈ

28:52کیا

28:52رہا ہے

28:52تو

28:52ضرور

28:53شکایت

28:53کرنا

28:53چاہیے

28:54لیکن

28:54اس طرح

28:55کی

28:55کوئی

28:55بات

28:55نہیں

28:56ہے

28:56لیکن

28:56منوجہ

28:57جا جی

28:57کہہ رہے

28:58تھے

28:58کہ ہم

28:58پڑکریا

28:59پر

28:59سوال

28:59نہیں

28:59اٹھا

28:59رہے

29:00یہ

29:00لوگ

29:00تو

29:00گئے

29:01تھے

29:01کہ

29:01پڑکریا

29:02کو

29:02روک

29:02دیا

29:02جائے

29:03سپرنگ

29:03کوٹ

29:04نے

29:04اس

29:04کو

29:05روکنے

29:05سے

29:05انکار

29:06کر

29:06دیا

29:06اور

29:07جب

29:07انکار

29:08کر

29:08دیا

29:08اگلی

29:08سنوائی

29:09ہے

29:09ان کی

29:09اور

29:10یہ

29:10کام

29:11کرنے

29:11کو

29:11سپرنگ

29:12کوٹ

29:12نے

29:12بھی

29:12نہیں

29:12روکا

29:13ہے

29:16یہ

29:16روکنا

29:16کیوں

29:16چاہتے

29:17یہ

29:17کہنا

29:18کہ

29:18تین

29:19میں

29:19منسون

29:19ہے

29:20بیہار

29:20کے

29:21اندر

29:21تو ابھی

29:21کہیں

29:21پہ

29:21بار

29:22نہیں

29:22ہم نے

29:22تو

29:22کوئی

29:23ابھی

29:23جیسے

29:24دلی

29:24میں

29:24بارش

29:25ہو

29:25رہی

29:25ہے

29:25لیکن

29:27منسون

29:28ہے

29:28یہ

29:29نہیں

29:29ہو

29:29سکتا

29:29وہ

29:30نہیں

29:30ہو

29:30سکتا

29:31ترہ

29:31کی

29:31قواعد

29:32شروع

29:33کر

29:33دینا

29:33کیونکہ

29:34ابھی

29:34ایک

29:35دوسپرچار

29:35کیا ہے

29:36جس

29:36طرح

29:37سٹیزن

29:38سپرمنمنٹ

29:38ایکٹ

29:39میں

29:39انہی

29:39پارٹیوں

29:40نے

29:40پورے

29:40ہندوستان

29:41میں

29:41ہنگامہ

29:41کیا

29:42شاہین

29:42باغ

29:43ہر جلے

29:43میں

29:43بنایا

29:44کہا

29:44کہ

29:45مسلمانوں

29:46کی

29:46ناغرکتہ

29:46چھن

29:46لی جائے

29:47جبکہ

29:48سٹیزن

29:48سپرمنمنٹ

29:49ایکٹ

29:49جو

29:49سی اے

29:50تھا

29:50وہ

29:50ناغرکتہ

29:51دینے

29:51والا

29:52تھا

29:52جس

29:52میں

29:52پاکستان

29:53بنگلہ دیش

29:53افغانستان

29:54سے جو

29:54ریلیجس

29:55مائنوٹیز

29:55کے لوگ

29:55ہیں

29:56جن

29:56کو

29:57مذہب کے

29:57نام پہ

29:57ستایا گیا

29:58وہ

29:58بھارت آئیں گے

29:59تو

29:59ناغرکتہ

30:00دیں گے

30:00کتنی غلط

30:01فہمی پیدا کی

30:02اس کے بعد

30:03انہوں نے

30:03دوسرا

30:03بھی آن چلایا

30:04وقف

30:05امنمنٹ

30:05ایکٹ

30:05کہا

30:06مسجد

30:06چھن جائے گی

30:07قبرستان

30:08چھن جائے گا

30:08درگا

30:09خان کا

30:10امام بارہ

30:10چھن جائے گا

30:11کچھ ایسا

30:12ہونے والا

30:12نہیں ہے

30:13خود ہم لوگوں

30:14نے کہا

30:14کہ نہیں

30:14متولی

30:15ہندو نہیں

30:16ہوگا

30:16متولی

30:16مسلمی

30:17ہوگا

30:18اور جو

30:18وقف

30:19ویوزر

30:20وہ بھی

30:20ریشٹرٹ

30:21کرا دیں

30:21تو کتنی

30:22غلط

30:22فہمی پیدا کی

30:23اس کے لیے

30:23پٹنا میں

30:24جو دکھتے آ رہی ہیں

30:28شانوار جی

30:29وہ

30:29بیہار میں

30:30بہت سارے

30:30ہمارے

30:30ریپورٹرز بھی ہیں

30:31جو

30:32بیہار کے

30:33بونفائیڈ

30:33ووٹرز ہیں

30:34جنہوں نے

30:34چوبیس میں

30:35بھی ووٹ دیا

30:35اس بار

30:36کافی لوگ ہیں

30:37جو کہہ رہے ہیں

30:37دکھتے آ رہی ہیں

30:38کیونکہ

30:39جب آپ

30:40ایک بھارتیہ

30:41ناغرک

30:41ہودنے کے وقت

30:43جب آپ

30:43اپنا ایک

30:44نیا ووٹر آئیڈ

30:45بناتے ہیں

30:45اگر آپ

30:46EC کی

30:47ویب سائٹ پہ

30:47جائیں

30:47تو

30:48فارم 6

30:48کے تحت

30:48صرف

30:49آدھار کے

30:50تحت

30:50آپ کو

30:51ایک ووٹر آئیڈ

30:52آپ کا

30:52بن جاتا ہے

30:53نئے ووٹر

30:53آپ

30:53اسٹیبلش

30:54ہو جاتے ہیں

30:55پر

30:55بیہار میں

30:56آپ کو

30:57سٹیزنشپ

30:57کا پروف

30:58دینا پڑ رہا

30:58ایک

30:58آدھار کے

30:59پرے

30:59تو

30:59بہت

31:00سارے

31:00سوال

31:01ہیں

31:01جو آ رہے ہیں

31:01اس میں

31:01اور

31:022003 میں

31:03یہ جو

31:03پوری

31:03ایکسرسائز

31:04ہوئی تھی

31:04سٹیزنشپ

31:05کی

31:05وہ

31:066 سے

31:068

31:07مہینے

31:07لگے تھے

31:08تو

31:08ان چیزوں

31:09پہ

31:09ان پائمینوں

31:10پہ

31:10سوال

31:10کیے جا

31:11رہے ہیں

31:11شہین

31:11آواز

31:11جی

31:12دیکھیں

31:172003 سے

31:18دیش آگے

31:19نکل چکا ہے

31:20وہ چیزیں

31:20جو بہت

31:21دن میں

31:21بنتی تھی

31:22جو

31:22مہینوں میں

31:24کام ہوتا تھا

31:24وہ

31:25منٹوں میں

31:25ہوتا ہے

31:26آج

31:26دیش آگے

31:28بڑھ گیا ہے

31:28چیزوں کو

31:29کرنے میں

31:29کوئی

31:29دقت ہوتی

31:30نہیں ہے

31:31یہ

31:31یہ جو

31:32میں

31:32کہتا ہوں

31:33یہ بات

31:33صحیح ہے

31:34کہ جو

31:35منافائیڈ

31:35ووٹر ہے

31:36جو

31:36جنون

31:37ووٹر ہے

31:37جو

31:38بھارت کا

31:38ناغرک ہے

31:39اس سے

31:39ووٹ کا

31:39عدیقار

31:40کوئی نہیں

31:41چھن سکتا

31:41الیکشن کمیشن

31:43ووٹ

31:43کروانے میں

31:44ووٹ کا

31:45عدیقار

31:45دینے والی

31:46سنستہ ہے

31:46وہ

31:47چھننے والی

31:47سنستہ نہیں ہے

31:48وہ

31:49اچھی نیت سے

31:49ووٹ کا

31:50ریویزن کر رہے ہیں

31:51ویریفیکیشن کر رہے ہیں

31:52اس آئی آر جو

31:53یوجنا ہے

31:53اس پر

31:54ترہ ترہ کے

31:55منعباد کے

31:56سوال اٹھائے جا رہے ہیں

31:57آپ دیکھئے گا

31:58یہ سوال

31:58سب غلط ہوں گے

32:00اسے معاملہ

32:00تو سب جیوری

32:01سو ہی گیا ہے

32:02ٹوئنٹی ایٹ

32:03کو

32:03ابھی تو

32:04ووٹ ریویزن

32:04ہوڑا ہے

32:05اور کون کون

32:05سے پیپر ہونے

32:06چاہیے

32:06اس پر

32:07چناؤ آئے

32:08کو کچھ سجھاؤ

32:09سپرنگ کورٹ

32:10نے دیئے ہیں

32:11لیکن

32:11ٹوئنٹی ایٹ

32:12کو جب

32:12ڈیٹھ ہو

32:13اس کے بعد

32:13سپرنگ کورٹ

32:14اس پر کوئی

32:15اپنی رائے

32:15رکھے گی

32:16اور جو

32:17لوگوں کی

32:17پریشانی ہے

32:18اس پریشانی

32:19کو چناؤ

32:20ایک کو

32:20بتانا چاہیے

32:21نہ کی

32:22اس پر

32:22ہنگامہ

32:23کرنا چاہیے

32:23نہ کی

32:23اس پر

32:24آندولن

32:25کرنا چاہیے

32:25نہ اس پر

32:26شک کرنا چاہیے

32:27اگر ہم

32:28اپنے سمیدائی

32:28کونسٹیٹیشنل

32:30باڈی پہ

32:30شک کریں گے

32:31میڈیا پہ

32:32شک کریں گے

32:33آخر کوئی جگہ

32:34چھوڑیے

32:34یہ لوگ تو

32:35ایسے لوگ ہیں

32:36جنہوں نے

32:36سپرنگ کورٹ

32:37کو نہیں بکشا

32:37اگر ان کو

32:44لگتا ہے کہ

32:44نہیں

32:45اس میں ہم

32:46مدہ بنائیں گے

32:47تو مدہ بنے گا

32:48یہ

32:48ان کے نیت میں

32:50ہے کہ

32:50لوگوں کو

32:51بھڑکا ہے

32:51کہ مسلمانوں

32:52کا ووٹ

32:52چھنا جائے گا

32:53گریبوں کا

32:54ووٹ

32:54چھنا جائے گا

32:55یہ دوست پر

32:56چار کر رہے ہیں

32:57کیا ووٹر کے

32:57چہرے پہ

32:58لکھا ہے

32:58کہ وہ

32:59کس کو

32:59ووٹ کرتا ہے

33:00یہ چناؤ آئیوک

33:01کی ایکسرسائز

33:03ہے

33:04الیکشن کمیشن

33:05کی ایکسرسائز ہے

33:06اس پر

33:07سب کو

33:07trust کرنا چاہیے

33:08اگر اپنے

33:09ایلیکشن کمیشن

33:10پر اپنے لوگوں

33:11کو trust نہیں

33:12ہوگا تو

33:12کیا ہونے والا ہے

33:13بہت شکریہ

33:15شان عواز

33:15حسین جی

33:16کہ آپ

33:16ہم سے

33:16جڑے

33:16اور اپنے

33:17اپنی

33:17پارٹی کا

33:18جو بھی

33:19point of view

33:20ہے وہ

33:20رکھا

33:21many thanks

33:22for joining

33:22us

33:23viewers

33:23we've tried

33:24to give

33:24you both

33:24perspectives

33:25of course

33:25the EC

33:26yet to

33:27remark

33:28on the

33:29various

33:30source-based

33:30information

33:31which is

33:32out

33:32many would

33:32suggest

33:33that the

33:33EC

33:34should

33:34just hold

33:34a press

33:35conference

33:35put

33:35everything

33:36on record

33:36instead

33:37of all

33:37the source-based

33:38information

33:39which is

33:39whirling around

33:40we're going

33:40to leave

33:40it at that

33:41we're going

33:41to let

33:41our viewers

33:42decide

33:42because the

33:43matter

33:43is

33:44subjudice

33:44it is

33:45in

33:45court

33:46amid

33:54rising

33:55attacks

33:55on

33:55Hindi

33:56speakers

33:56in

33:56Maharashtra

33:57and

33:57protests

33:58across

33:58southern

33:59states

33:59Antra Pradesh

34:03Deputy Chief

34:04Minister

34:04Pawan

34:05Kalyan

34:05stepped

34:06forward

34:06to defend

34:07Hindi

34:07with

34:07conviction

34:08he

34:08questioned

34:09why

34:09anyone

34:10should

34:10feel

34:10ashamed

34:11of

34:11the

34:11language

34:12urging

34:12people

34:13instead

34:13to

34:13learn

34:14and

34:14embrace

34:15it

34:15invoking

34:18the

34:18legacy

34:18of

34:18former

34:19president

34:19APJ

34:20Abdul Kalam

34:20who

34:21deeply

34:21valued

34:21Hindi

34:22Pawan

34:22Kalyan

34:23said

34:23Hindi

34:24was

34:24not

34:24imposed

34:25on

34:25anyone

34:25but

34:26should

34:26be

34:26welcomed

34:27as

34:27a

34:27unifying

34:28national

34:28language

34:29Hindi

34:31was

34:31a

34:32shared

34:33in

34:33our

34:34Bharat

34:35Dr.

34:36Abdul Kalam

34:36was

34:37in

34:38Tamil

34:38but

34:40Hindi

34:40was

34:41very

34:41interested

34:42in

34:42Hindi

34:43in

34:44Hindi

34:45to

34:45see

34:45the

34:46view

34:47of

34:47India

34:48not

34:50to

34:50Jibar

34:51Jibar

34:52Jibar

34:52not

34:52Viro

34:52but

34:54some

34:55of

34:55life

34:56Kalyan

34:58reminded

34:59everyone

34:59that while

35:00mother tongues

35:01like

35:01Telugu

35:01Tamil

35:02and

35:02Karnar

35:03are

35:03vital

35:04to

35:04cultural

35:04identity

35:05Hindi

35:06serves

35:06as

35:06the

35:06essential

35:07common

35:07thread

35:08connecting

35:08India's

35:09diverse

35:09people

35:10Mata

35:12Lade

35:12Telugu

35:13Tamil

35:13Kannada

35:14Malayalam

35:16Mahari

35:17Savadiya

35:17A

35:18Bhashle

35:19Naka

35:19also

35:19Mata

35:20Ruvasa

35:21In

35:22Klo

35:22Matla

35:22Godan

35:23Khi

35:23Mata

35:23Ruvasa

35:24Kani

35:25Mata

35:25Sari

35:26Haktul

35:26Dhat

35:26Khe

35:27Mane

35:28Khe

35:28Raja

35:28Basha

35:29Hindi

35:29DmK

35:32Spokesperson

35:32Sarvanan

35:33Criticized

35:34Kalyan

35:34Stance

35:34Arguing

35:35that

35:35Hindi

35:36should

35:36not

35:36be

35:36forced

35:37and

35:37that

35:37English

35:38remains

35:38the

35:38true

35:39link

35:39language

35:39supporting

35:40economic

35:41progress

35:41without

35:42disadvantaging

35:43non-Hindi

35:44speakers

35:45We are not

35:47hating any

35:48language

35:48We don't

35:49want Hindi

35:50shoved

35:51down our

35:51throats

35:51We are

35:53saying

35:53English

35:54is the

35:55linked

35:55language

35:55of this

35:57country

35:57If we

35:58use Hindi

35:58as a

35:58linked

35:58language

35:59then

36:00every

36:01non-native

36:01speaker

36:01of Hindi

36:02becomes

36:03a second

36:03class

36:03citizen

36:04We

36:04want

36:04to

36:05avoid

36:05this

36:06Earlier

36:08Andhra

36:08Pradesh

36:08Chief

36:09Minister

36:09Chandrababu

36:10Naidu

36:10while speaking

36:11to India

36:11today

36:11had openly

36:12called

36:13Hindi

36:13the

36:13national

36:13language

36:14differing

36:15from the

36:15southern

36:15chief

36:16ministers

36:16Local

36:18language

36:19mother tongue

36:20is a must

36:20no compromise

36:21Why can't

36:22learn

36:23Hindi

36:23also

36:24to be

36:24fluent

36:25to

36:26mingle

36:26with

36:26north

36:27Indians

36:27That is

36:28a national

36:28level

36:29Nothing

36:29wrong

36:30in it

36:30As

36:31language

36:32tensions

36:32rise

36:33Pawan

36:34Kalyan's

36:34strong

36:34defence

36:35of

36:35Hindi

36:35exposes

36:36the

36:36divide

36:36within

36:37the

36:37southern

36:37politicians

36:38over

36:38the

36:38issue

36:39Bureau

36:41Report

36:42India

36:42Today

36:42Through

36:46Precision

36:47Roasting

36:47Skills

36:48Across

36:51to our

36:52panelists

36:52this evening

36:53Joining me

36:53Mr.

36:54Boli

36:54Setty

36:55Satyan

36:55Arayana

36:56State

36:56General

36:56Secretary

36:57Jan

36:57Saina

36:57Party

36:58Srinivas

36:59Reddy

36:59Kumbham

37:00Spokesperson

37:01Congress

37:01Margani

37:02Bharat

37:03Ram

37:03Former

37:04MP

37:04YSR

37:05CP

37:06Let's

37:07cut across

37:07first to

37:08the

37:08Jan

37:08Saina

37:09Spokesperson

37:10Mr.

37:10Satyan

37:11Arayana

37:11Mr.

37:12Satyan

37:12Arayana

37:12what is

37:14the intention

37:15that was

37:16behind

37:17your leader

37:18stating

37:19that

37:20Hindi

37:20is like

37:21an art

37:21does

37:22the

37:23Jan

37:23Saina

37:23and the

37:24Deputy

37:24Chief

37:24Minister

37:25of

37:25Andhra

37:25Pradesh

37:26believe

37:26that

37:27Hindi

37:27is a

37:28linked

37:28language

37:29which

37:29everyone

37:30needs

37:30to

37:30learn

37:31see

37:33what

37:33actually

37:33Mr.

37:34Power

37:35Ngalian

37:35said

37:35was

37:36that

37:37Telugu

37:39is our

37:39mother

37:39and

37:40Hindi

37:41is our

37:42big

37:42mother

37:43Pradham

37:43Periyama

37:44so why

37:45he said

37:45that is

37:46it's a

37:47fact

37:47actually in

37:48India

37:48Malayalam is

37:49spoken by

37:5038 million

37:50people

37:51Kannada

37:5245 million

37:53people

37:53Tamil

37:5578 million

37:56people

37:57Telugu

37:5885 million

37:59people

37:59English

38:00150

38:01million

38:01people

38:02130

38:03to

38:03150

38:03million

38:04people

38:04whereas

38:05Hindi

38:05528

38:07to

38:07650

38:08million

38:09people

38:09so

38:10whether you

38:12like it

38:12or not

38:12Hindi

38:13is our

38:14big

38:15mother

38:15that is

38:15absolutely

38:16that is a

38:17fact of

38:17figures

38:17I am not

38:18talking from

38:18my side

38:19it is a

38:20census

38:202011

38:21and official

38:22reports

38:22as on

38:2323-24

38:24available on

38:25records

38:25so

38:26Hindi

38:27528

38:29to 650

38:29million

38:30people

38:30528

38:32like native

38:33speakers

38:33and the

38:34people who

38:35adopted the

38:35language is

38:36the remaining

38:36people

38:37so total

38:38650 million

38:39people speak

38:40Hindi

38:41and whereas

38:42English is

38:43spoken only

38:43130 million

38:44if the

38:47DMK party

38:48or their

38:48spokesperson

38:49Mr. Satya

38:50Narayana

38:50by the virtue

38:51of what you

38:52are suggesting

38:52you are actually

38:53building a

38:54cause

38:54in a larger

38:55domain where

38:56delimitation is

38:57concerned

38:57because then

38:58it doesn't

38:59come down

38:59to the

39:00area

39:01and the

39:02states

39:02but it

39:03primarily

39:03comes down

39:04to the

39:04number of

39:05people

39:05yes

39:07actually

39:08see

39:08ultimately

39:09why

39:09English

39:09has become

39:10popular

39:10to get

39:11jobs

39:11outside the

39:12country

39:13it is

39:14helping

39:14many people

39:15software

39:16people are

39:16doing

39:17excellent

39:17jobs

39:18no no

39:18Mr. Satya

39:18Narayana

39:19by the

39:19virtue of

39:20your argument

39:20where you

39:20are saying

39:21X number

39:21of people

39:22speak

39:22Hindi

39:24a lot

39:24more than

39:24any other

39:25regional

39:25language

39:26you are

39:26actually

39:27building

39:27a cause

39:28of

39:28delimitation

39:29which

39:29most

39:29South

39:30parties

39:30oppose

39:30and even

39:31your

39:31party

39:31has

39:31opposed

39:32in the

39:32past

39:32no no

39:33actually

39:34we should

39:35all learn

39:35Hindi

39:36language

39:36when we

39:36adopted

39:37English

39:37what is

39:38wrong

39:38in

39:38adopting

39:39our own

39:39national

39:40language

39:40there is

39:41nothing

39:41wrong

39:41actually

39:42though

39:42it is

39:42not

39:42that's

39:43your

39:43argument

39:43because

39:44if

39:44you

39:44make

39:44it

39:44on

39:44the

39:44cause

39:45of

39:45the

39:45number

39:45of

39:45people

39:46who

39:46speak

39:46Hindi

39:47then

39:47by

39:47that

39:48virtue

39:48it's

39:50you're

39:50actually

39:51building

39:51the cause

39:51for

39:51delimitation

39:52Mr. Satya

39:53Narayana

39:53I'll come

39:54back to

39:54that

39:54I'll come

39:55back to

39:55that

39:55question

39:55I want

39:56to

39:56bring

39:56in

39:56Mr.

39:57Kumbam

39:57the Congress

39:58spokesperson

39:59Srinivas

39:59Reddy

40:00Kumbam

40:00where does

40:01your party

40:01stand

40:02on what

40:02the Deputy

40:02Chief

40:03Minister

40:03of

40:03Andra

40:03has

40:03just

40:04said

40:04good

40:06evening

40:06Preeti

40:07actually

40:09it is

40:10the Congress

40:10party

40:11which has

40:11brought

40:11in the

40:11Tribhasha

40:12Sutram

40:12that

40:14in 1968

40:15the National

40:15Education

40:16Policy

40:16of 1968

40:18where the

40:19Congress

40:19party

40:19was the

40:19party

40:20which has

40:20brought

40:20in the

40:21Tribhasha

40:23Sutram

40:23wherein

40:23they said

40:24that the

40:24first language

40:25should be

40:25the mother

40:25tongue

40:26or the

40:26regional

40:27language

40:27then

40:28Hindi

40:28was supposed

40:29to be

40:29the

40:30second

40:31language

40:31and the

40:31third

40:32language

40:32could be

40:32English

40:33but

40:34here

40:35we are

40:35finding

40:36some

40:36states

40:37which

40:37are

40:37opposing

40:37the

40:38usage

40:39of

40:39Hindi

40:40as

40:40a

40:40language

40:42there

40:42but

40:43never

40:43was

40:44it

40:44imposed

40:44on

40:44all

40:45the

40:45states

40:46it's

40:46not

40:46being

40:47imposed

40:47forcefully

40:49but

40:50learning

40:50Hindi

40:51is

40:51definitely

40:52useful

40:52because

40:53going

40:53by the

40:54linguistic

40:54diversity

40:55of this

40:56country

40:56definitely

40:57when we

40:58are talking

40:58about

40:58members

40:59everybody

41:00in this

41:00country

41:01knows

41:01most

41:01of

41:01the

41:01people

41:02speak

41:03and

41:03understand

41:04Hindi

41:04so

41:05nothing

41:05wrong

41:05in learning

41:06Hindi

41:06and

41:07definitely

41:08so your

41:09party also

41:10feels

41:10sir

41:10because

41:11it's

41:11interesting

41:12because

41:12you take

41:12that line

41:13nothing wrong

41:13in learning

41:14Hindi

41:14but the

41:15rest of

41:16the states

41:16where the

41:17Congress

41:17is in

41:18government

41:18has opposed

41:19Hindi

41:20as a

41:20linked

41:20language

41:21so is it

41:22the policy

41:22in Andhra Pradesh

41:23for Congress

41:23is different

41:24than what the

41:24policy is

41:25where it comes

41:26down to the

41:26state of

41:27Karnataka

41:27or Telangana

41:28even

41:29in Telangana

41:30we have

41:30never said

41:31that Hindi

41:32is not

41:33your

41:33chief minister

41:34has come

41:34out on

41:34our network

41:35and vocally

41:36been very

41:37clear

41:37about the

41:38language

41:38policy

41:39and said

41:40very clearly

41:40that accepting

41:41Hindi as a

41:42linked language

41:43is unacceptable

41:45Hindi as a

41:47compulsory language

41:48is what

41:49Hindi as a

41:51compulsory language

41:52is a different

41:52subject

41:53learning Hindi

41:54is a different

41:54language

41:55that is the

41:57thought process

41:57here

41:58we are talking

41:58about whether

41:59Hindi can be

42:00learned

42:00what Pawan

42:01Kalyanji

42:01I think has

42:02said is that

42:03learning Hindi

42:04is not wrong

42:04here

42:05and in fact

42:06in Andhra Pradesh

42:07also when the

42:08previous government

42:09I think they

42:09were trying to

42:10remove Hindi

42:12as the language

42:13over there

42:13it was the

42:14Congress party

42:15which has

42:15opposed that

42:17same thing

42:18so you still

42:21haven't made

42:21your stand

42:22clear

42:22where does the

42:22Congress stand

42:23on this

42:23so it's okay

42:24to learn Hindi

42:24but you are

42:25opposing it

42:25as a linked

42:26language

42:26I am not

42:26understanding

42:27the Congress

42:27stand in Andhra

42:28sir

42:28in Andhra

42:30or elsewhere

42:31learning Hindi

42:32is never

42:32as a compulsory

42:34language

42:35as a first

42:35language

42:35definitely not

42:36we are for

42:37the first

42:38language has

42:39to be the

42:40regional language

42:40which is Telugu

42:41here in Andhra

42:42Pradesh or in

42:43Telangana

42:44second language

42:46as even as

42:48for the

42:48national education

42:49policy of 2020

42:51or the 1968

42:52policy

42:52having Hindi

42:53or any other

42:54if not in a

42:55Hindi speaking

42:55spirit

42:56definitely we

42:57always have a

42:57chance to

42:58you know

42:59take any other

43:01language

43:01it is not being

43:02closed

43:02so you are

43:03saying

43:04you have the

43:05same

43:06exactly what

43:07the

43:08Janusena

43:09the deputy

43:09chief minister

43:10Pavan Kalyan

43:11said in Andhra Pradesh

43:12I want to bring

43:12in Bharat Ram

43:13Margani Bharat Ram

43:14where does

43:15the YSRCP

43:17stand on this

43:18language divide

43:19Mr. Ram

43:20firstly very good

43:23evening Miss

43:23Preeti

43:24here we could

43:25clearly understand

43:26the stance of

43:28the Janusena

43:29spokesperson

43:30he is just

43:32promoting the

43:33Hindi language

43:34but way back

43:35in 2017

43:36perhaps

43:37Mr. Pavan

43:38Kalyan

43:39has opposed

43:40the Hindi

43:41language to

43:42be imposed

43:43in Telugu

43:44states or

43:44southern states

43:45but they

43:46don't have a

43:47clear idea

43:48because now

43:49they are

43:50promoting but

43:51way back in

43:512017

43:52they opposed

43:54it and why

43:54is this

43:55hypocrisy

43:55when they

43:56were there

43:57in the

43:57opposition

43:57benches

43:58they have

43:59completely

44:00opposed

44:00the Hindi

44:01language in

44:02southern states

44:03but now

44:04he is advocating

44:05for the

44:06promotion of

44:07Hindi

44:07but as

44:09far as

44:09YSR

44:09congress

44:10party is

44:10concerned

44:11we respect

44:13each and

44:14every language

44:15in our

44:15country

44:16but not

44:17at the

44:17cost of

44:18Telugu's

44:19pride

44:19and Telugu

44:20is not

44:22only a

44:22language

44:23it is our

44:24identity

44:24it is our

44:26legacy

44:26it is our

44:28history

44:28and the

44:29pride of

44:30Telugu

44:30people

44:30so we

44:32don't let

44:33Hindi

44:33to be

44:34at the

44:35cost of

44:36Telugu's

44:36pride

44:36of course

44:38we

44:38respect each

44:40and every

44:41language

44:41of course

44:42the people

44:42want to

44:43learn Hindi

44:44or English

44:44we are

44:45very clear

44:46in it

44:46but not

44:48at the

44:48cost of

44:48Telugu's

44:49pride

44:49but one

44:50thing

44:51Miss

44:51Preethi

44:52this

44:52Janasena

44:54spokesperson

44:54has to

44:55answer

44:55why is

44:56this

44:56hypocrisy

44:57when

44:58in

44:582017

44:59if I'm

45:00not

45:00wrong

45:00Mr.

45:01Pawan

45:02Kalyan

45:02has

45:03clearly

45:04opposed

45:04the

45:05imposition

45:06of

45:06Hindi

45:07language

45:08in

45:08southern

45:08states

45:09and

45:09why

45:10his

45:10dual

45:11thought

45:12process

45:12and

45:13what

45:13made

45:14him

45:14change

45:14Mr. Satya Narayana

45:15the larger

45:15question is

45:16what is being

45:16implied

45:17very clearly

45:17that Mr.

45:18Pawan Kalyan

45:18playing into

45:19the hands

45:19of the BJP

45:20Mr. Satya Narayana

45:27the questions

45:27for you

45:28sir

45:28okay

45:29right

45:29actually

45:30what Mr.

45:31Margani

45:31Bharat

45:32said was

45:32that

45:33we are

45:34changing

45:34the stand

45:35or we

45:35don't

45:35have

45:35a clear

45:36stand

45:36Mr.

45:37Pawan

45:37Kalyan

45:38is a

45:38true

45:39patriotic

45:40and also

45:41national

45:42integrity

45:42person

45:43stands

45:43for

45:44national

45:44integrity

45:45that

45:45has

45:45been

45:45displayed

45:46not

45:46now

45:4725

45:47years

45:47back

45:48when

45:48his

45:48movie

45:48Telugu

45:49movie

45:49he put

45:51a total

45:51Hindi

45:52song

45:53a Telugu

45:53movie

45:54having

45:54a total

45:54Hindi

45:55song

45:55clearly

45:56absurd

45:56so what

45:57is he

45:57talking

45:57I mentioned

45:59in a

46:01public

46:01make

46:03his

46:05point

46:06I will

46:06come

46:06to

46:07the

46:07YSARCP

46:07spokesperson

46:08let me

46:09complete

46:09Mr.

46:10Satya Narayana

46:10make your

46:11point

46:11see the

46:12thing is

46:13when

46:13we

46:14said

46:15South

46:15North

46:16divide

46:16is

46:16going

46:16to

46:17come

46:17because

46:17of

46:17the

46:17power

46:18is

46:18not

46:18shared

46:18properly

46:19see

46:20at

46:20that

46:20time

46:20power

46:21was

46:21not

46:21shared

46:21properly

46:22the

46:22reason

46:22is

46:23the

46:23South

46:24Indian

46:24people

46:24are

46:25not

46:25having

46:25the

46:26language

46:26commanding

46:27of the

46:27Hindi

46:28language

46:28and all

46:28they don't

46:29know how to

46:29coordinate

46:30and get

46:30the

46:30national

46:31programs

46:31and part

46:32of the

46:32national

46:33programs

46:33this is

46:33there

46:34right

46:34from

46:34beginning

46:34even

46:35earlier

46:35also

46:36Panchai

46:36funds

46:37never

46:37used

46:37to

46:37spend

46:38and

46:38other

46:39places

46:39because

46:40our

46:40people

46:41never

46:41used

46:41to

46:41go

46:41and

46:42demand

46:42for

46:42it

46:42is

46:42quite

46:42irrelevant

46:43you

46:44don't

46:44answer

46:44let me

46:45complete

46:45make your

46:46points

46:46very quickly

46:47yes

46:47the change

46:48of stand

46:49of your

46:49leader

46:50quickly

46:50Mr.

46:51Pavan Kalyan

46:51is always

46:52for Hindi

46:53he never

46:53said

46:53he said

46:54the power

46:54has to be

46:55shared equally

46:56north

46:56south

46:56otherwise

46:57divide

46:58will come

46:59what he

46:59said is

47:00there will be

47:00a north

47:00south

47:01divide

47:01will come

47:01if

47:02the

47:02national

47:03assets

47:04Mr. Bharat

47:06Ram

47:06the indication

47:07is that

47:07Hindi

47:08will help

47:09bridge

47:09the

47:09north

47:09south

47:10divide

47:10that

47:10doesn't

47:11relegate

47:12Telugu

47:12to an

47:13inferior

47:13language

47:14not at all

47:16see one

47:17thing

47:18here

47:18we can

47:20clearly

47:20understand

47:21the deputy

47:22chief minister

47:23of Andhra Pradesh

47:24and the

47:24chief minister

47:25Sun

47:25both are

47:26competing

47:27with each

47:27other

47:28in advocating

47:29and promoting

47:30Hindi

47:30in Andhra Pradesh

47:31trying to

47:32impress

47:32the honourable

47:33prime minister

47:34just trying

47:36to impress

47:36him

47:37so our

47:38stand is

47:38very clear

47:39and since

47:40our party

47:41we formed

47:41our party

47:42and the

47:43epitome

47:43of YSR

47:44Congress

47:45party is

47:46on a single

47:47line

47:47we respect

47:49each and

47:49every language

47:50but not

47:51at the cost

47:52of Telugu's

47:53pride at

47:54bargaining

47:54I appreciate

47:56all three of

47:56you for

47:57joining us

47:57thank you

47:58there for

47:58putting your

47:58point forward

48:00because this

48:00is going to

48:01be a highly

48:01emotive issue

48:02especially by

48:03the people

48:03of Andhra Pradesh

48:04are concerned

48:05but this is

48:06the political

48:07stand that

48:07was taken

48:08by the

48:08deputy

48:08chief

48:09minister

48:09Pawan Kalyan

48:10where he

48:10didn't say

48:11that Hindi

48:12should be

48:12mandatory

48:13or compulsory

48:14all he said

48:15was that

48:16Hindi should

48:17be learnt

48:17it will help

48:18bridge the

48:19north-south

48:19divide

48:20well this is

48:21what he

48:21intended to

48:22say

48:22but what

48:23does

48:23the

48:25TDP

48:25leader

48:26IT

48:27and

48:28education

48:28minister

48:29Nara

48:30Lokesh

48:30have to

48:31say

48:31about

48:31the

48:31entire

48:32language

48:33Rao

48:33well we

48:33did

48:34speak

48:34to

48:34him

48:34listen

48:35in

48:36what are

48:40your views

48:40when it

48:41comes down

48:41to

48:41the

48:43NEP

48:43the

48:43national

48:44you know

48:45education

48:46policy

48:46there is

48:47so much

48:47that has

48:48been spoken

48:48of your

48:49neighbouring

48:49state

48:50Telangana

48:51Tamil Nadu

48:52name it

48:53well the

48:55NEP policy

48:55is actually

48:56good

48:57we have

48:58implemented

48:59it and

49:00we are in

49:00the process

49:01of implementing

49:01it it's

49:02not bound

49:04to any

49:04state and

49:05states can

49:05decide it

49:06the whole

49:07discussion is

49:08about languages

49:08and it's

49:09very unfortunate

49:10that languages

49:10are being

49:11pitted against

49:11each other

49:12and I'll

49:13tell you

49:13why

49:14when I met

49:15Dharmendra

49:15Pradhanji

49:16the whole

49:17discussion

49:17was about

49:18local language

49:19and the

49:19importance of

49:20mother tongue

49:20in schools

49:21and Dharmendra

49:23Pradhanji

49:24went on

49:25to say

49:25that actually

49:25you know

49:25it's

49:26you know

49:26Mr. Naidoo

49:27or you know

49:27Mr. Modi

49:28ji actually

49:28learnt

49:29they went

49:31to school

49:31and the

49:32medium of

49:33education

49:33was the

49:34mother tongue

49:34and look

49:35at the

49:35kind of

49:36impact

49:36that they

49:36were able

49:37to do

49:37so he

49:39understands

49:40the importance

49:40of it

49:41as a minister

49:41India

49:42understands

49:43the importance

49:43of mother

49:45tongue

49:46but at the

49:47same time

49:47Hindi is

49:48a national

49:48language

49:49no

49:49it's not

49:50it's not

49:52a national

49:53language

49:53it is a national

49:53language

49:54and we

49:54should

49:54take it

49:55forward

49:55why should

49:58we not

49:58I mean

49:59my question

50:00here is

50:00that why

50:00should we

50:01not learn

50:03Hindi

50:03why should

50:04we just

50:04say that

50:05we should

50:05you know

50:06why are we

50:06pitting

50:06Tamil against

50:07Hindi

50:07Telugu

50:08against

50:08Hindi

50:09okay let

50:09me ask

50:10you this

50:10way

50:10should

50:11I'll tell

50:11you what

50:12the issue

50:12is

50:12and it

50:13comes down

50:13to this

50:13should

50:14Hindi

50:14be the

50:15linked

50:15language

50:15in this

50:16country

50:16yes or

50:17no

50:17absolutely

50:18yes because

50:20that's what

50:20the other

50:21south parties

50:22disagree with

50:23you

50:23well we

50:24Telugu

50:24there's some

50:25parties stands

50:25for

50:26because for

50:26them it's

50:26English should

50:27be the

50:27linked

50:28language not

50:29Hindi

50:29English already

50:31is the

50:32linked

50:32language no

50:33second thoughts

50:33about it

50:34but at the

50:35same time

50:36there's nothing

50:36wrong in our

50:37kids learning

50:38Hindi

50:38why are we

50:39so scared

50:40about it

50:40in fact we

50:41should learn

50:42more languages

50:42if you look

50:43at it

50:44Mr. Naidu

50:45has been

50:45talking about

50:46you know

50:46some of

50:47our kids

50:48have to

50:48actually learn

50:49Japanese

50:49German

50:50because there

50:50are opportunities

50:51out there

50:51so we should

50:53truly be a

50:54global citizen

50:55okay with

50:55Hindi being a

50:56linked

50:56language

50:56absolutely

50:57well for that

51:06entire conversation

51:07do tune in

51:07the coming

51:08weekend

51:099pm

51:09Saturdays

51:108pm

51:10Sundays

51:11but the

51:12imperative

51:13part

51:13the important

51:14part of that

51:14conversation

51:15is that

51:16the IT and

51:17education

51:18minister of

51:19Andhra Pradesh

51:20Nara Lokesh

51:22son of the

51:22chief minister

51:23Chandra Babu

51:24Naidu also

51:24believes that

51:25Hindi is a

51:26great linked

51:27language

51:27so pretty much

51:28exactly mirroring

51:30what Mr.

51:31Pawan Kalyan

51:31said

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