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00:00You know, Jono, I feel like we had that ceasefire when Donald Trump first came into office.
00:06And then the timelines keep on moving, right?
00:10We'll hear back from Hamas in 24 hours.
00:12We didn't.
00:13Now we see a timeline moving again, the end of this week.
00:16That pee is elusive.
00:17And of course, Trump's U.S. Special Envoy, Steve Witkoff, he's been sort of instrumental
00:22in a lot of these talks, has delayed his trip to Doha.
00:26And what does this mean for negotiations once again?
00:30Well, two sides to the coin here.
00:31One is that, and this is the story that will be portrayed, is that there's a critical point
00:37that they can't get past.
00:38And they've said it's one.
00:39And I think Gemma is correct in this one.
00:41I think there's probably more than one.
00:43There's probably a lot of cards on the table that have not been quite sorted just yet.
00:47It would indicate that because that crux is still there, that we haven't got past the barrier
00:51of that one remaining issue.
00:52So the talks have been done remotely.
00:54They are, as we said, indirect talks that have been done remotely at the moment.
00:57The physical presence will be required when a breakthrough happens.
01:01And the question now is, when is that breakthrough going to happen?
01:04Because we've not been given a date.
01:05We know that he's been moved.
01:06He's not going to Doha.
01:07But when is he going to Doha?
01:09That we don't know yet.
01:10So it's either we're pausing because we don't have the issues resolved.
01:14It's a strategic move.
01:15And that that's what they're trying to portray, that we're waiting for the conditions
01:18to be just right before the level of presence is required in Doha.
01:24Doha.
01:25Doha.
01:26Doha.
01:27Doha.
01:28Doha.
01:29Doha.

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