00:00So another situation, a little bit Gemma, where everything seemed to be really positive.
00:06Cautious optimism we heard a lot, didn't we, at the beginning of the week.
00:10We originally thought Netanyahu would be staying in Washington, D.C. until tomorrow.
00:17And yet he's gone already and gone with nothing.
00:20He hasn't done a victory lap over the ceasefire deal.
00:23It's all gone a bit quiet.
00:25I think all these meetings between Trump and Netanyahu gave everyone sort of false hope.
00:31And I do think Trump does stoke that because he wants the win.
00:34So he does kind of allow you to believe that they're this close all the time to solving it and finding solutions.
00:41And that's simply not the case.
00:43So, yeah, negotiations are broken down after three days.
00:47And what I think we have to remember is that these are indirect talks.
00:52So between the Israelis and Hamas.
00:54So they're just talking to each other through the Qataris.
00:57This is one can only imagine the repetitiveness back and forth.
01:01Now, some of the main points they can't agree on is the distribution of aid during the ceasefire.
01:08And this one sticking point, which Netanyahu is never going to agree to, which is the Israeli troop withdrawals, which Hamas are not sort of relinquishing.
01:16They're not taking off the table.
01:17Now, interesting, Wyckoff earlier this week had said we have four issues and now we're down to one.
01:23We're not down to one.
01:25Absolutely not.
01:26That is pie in the sky.
01:28So I think what's interesting as well for me is that on Wednesday, so yesterday, Netanyahu was talking about the latest meeting.
01:38He talks a lot about the hostages.
01:40He really does make that the focal point, obviously, and it is utmost important to bring them back.
01:45But he said the release of all our hostages, the living and the deceased, and the elimination of Hamas's military and governing capabilities, thereby ensuring that Gaza will never again constitute a threat to Israel.
01:57Now, that is an incredibly open line because what does Israel consider constitutes a threat to them?
02:04It could be absolutely anything.
02:06And so I don't see any doors closing here at all.
